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Rockies 6, 9, Mets 5, 4: A Long Day's Journey into Suck

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Here are the positives from today's doubleheader:

  • No one involved in it was killed
  • The sun did not burn out, nor did the earth get knocked off its axis, as a result

That's it.

I've been preaching positivity and an even-keeled perspective in this still-young season as an antidote to the sad sackery professed by many Mets fans (and the beat writers who serve them). During today's games, the Mets played as if they specifically wanted me to question this stance. Oh, you think it's too early to judge this team? How 'bout we misplay every ball hit to the outfield and give up titanic home runs to nobodies. Still feelin' all Mr. Rogers sunshine-and-lollipops now, buddy? The crap we pulled would make the Dalai Lama punch a hole in a car window.

For you masochists who absolutely must relive this nightmare, stop me if you've heard this one before. In game one, the Mets jumped out to an early 2-0 lead, but could not capitalize on numerous opportunities and watched the Rockies surge ahead with timely hitting and the longball. R.A. Dickey had a decent outing, but was victimized by some ugly fielding in right by Scott Hairston (just one of several bad plays Mets outfielders had on the day).

Trailing 6-2 going into the eighth, the Mets crawled a little closer on a Jose Reyes solo shot in that frame, then got to within one thanks to a redemptive Hairston two-run homer in the ninth. A few more hits chased Rockies closer Huston Street from the game, and the Mets managed to load the bases, but David Wright was undone by Citi Field's cavernous and eccentric dimensions, flying out to the Mo's Zone in right field to end the game and kill another tease of a rally.

In game 2, oh, look at that, the Mets took an early 2-0 lead again. And whaddya know? They gave it right back. A Jose Reyes two-run single put the Mets back on top 4-2 in the fourth, but starter Chris Capuano got into trouble in the sixth by giving up a leadoff homer to (guess who?) Troy Tulowitzki, loaded the bases, then got a tailor made double play grounder that was flubbed by Brad Emaus, allowing the tying run to score.

Naturally, Dexter Fowler followed with an RBI single to put the Rockies on top. Then, Taylor Buchholz came in to make sure there could be no teasing, half-hearted comeback by giving up a three-run bomb to Jonathan Herrera. It was all over but the shouting then, not that Citi Field had enough people in attendance to shout.

Thus concudes a 1-6 homestand, where the Mets played worse than I've seen since the hideous Art Howe years. This team is much more talented than those squads, but you'd never know it watching them. The Mets were done in by terrible at bats, terrible fielding, terrible base running, terrible throws, terrible pitch selection, and terrible decisions.

Next, Atlanta. Before you say that things can't get any worse, things can always get worse. Especially in Atlanta. I fully expect them to come back with the entire team infected by Legionnaire's disease.

Oh, I thought of one more positive. You know those long winter days when you wish there was some baseball, any baseball on? Think of this Rockie series and maybe you can wait a little while longer for the season to start. Oh yeah, sometimes baseball is like that, too.

K Counters by sparbz

Game 1

Game 2

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* Traditional Recaps: Game 1, Game 2
* Boxscores: Game 1, Game 2
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethreads: Game 1, Game 2
* Purple Row Gamethreads: Game 1, Game 2

Win Probability Added

Game 1

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Big winners: Scott Hairston, +14.0%, Carlos Beltran, +12.4%
Big losers: R.A. Dickey, -35.8%, David Wright, -19.8%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Scott Hairston RBI single, 4th inning
Teh sux0rest play: Jose Morales "double", 6th inning
Total pitcher WPA: -38.9%
Total batter WPA: -11.1%
GWRBI!:Troy Tulowitzki solo homer, 7th inning

Game 2

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Big winners: Jose Reyes, +16.2%. Mike Nickeas, +14.5%
Big losers: Chris Capuano, -46.1%, Taylor Buchholz, -24.9%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Jose Reyes two-run single, 4th inning
Teh sux0rest play: Jonathan Herrera three-run home run, 6th inning
Total pitcher WPA: -70.2%
Total batter WPA: +2-0.2%
GWRBI!: Dexter Fowler RBI single, 6th inning

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by reyoreyo; his efforts in both game threads embiggen us all.

Game 1

Num Name # of Posts
1 reyoreyo 129
2 the caveman 99
3 sparbz 70
4 Hoyadestroya85 67
5 BlackOps 64
6 fxcarden 61
7 Spike Davis 61
8 TheKid08 56
9 aparkermarshall 54
10 David G 48

 

Game 2

Num Name # of Posts
1 reyoreyo 92
2 sj10689 88
3 Michkin 63
4 Syler 57
5 the caveman 56
6 HELLYEAHGARYOAK 49
7 Hoyadestroya85 48
8 fxcarden 47
9 aparkermarshall 47
10 NetsMets4Life 44

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This team is attempting to beat and stomp out all the enthusiasm I have for baseball

I mean if they lose, can they at least look like a professional MLB team while doing so?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

little early in the season to be whining about the end of your baseball enthusiasm.

See what I did there?

One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!

by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 14, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am actually

not juiced for baseball yet. There can be no other explanation for my rather calm reaction to the start of the season. The one thing I noticed that really infuriates me is the way our pitchers IMMEDIATELY give back leads. I know the fundies are not great but I believe that Collins drilled them hard in ST. What does that tell me? Some of these guys got to go. As for the OF defense, Pagan is an average CF who is maybe made a little better because of his speed. He takes bad angles on balls but can sometimes make up for it, making what looks like a great catch when it actually was a mismanaged one. Hairston is below average hustle wise. Harris’ defense has slipped. Beltran has looked good (fingers tightly crossed). He also throws the ball to the wrong base a lot. He is decent out there. I am so tired of Gary talking about him like he is Paul Blair. (I am also tired of Gary saying things like Jose Reyes made a brilliant play because he caught a routine grounder and ran to second instead of flipping it before completing the DP. Maybe that IS brilliant-for Jose?) Finally, this offens eis below par. Every year people think this offense will produce and every year we are back trying to squeeze out runs. We may have some good players, I think probably overrated, but they are a bad mix. I thought this team might win 82 games , and if lucky 84-85. It is clear (to me) the mix has to be re-done. Maybe some day when we have money…..

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops!!

The reference to "throwing to the wrong base was for Pagan. I inserted the Beltran comment late and put it in the wrong place.

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add another suck.

If you’re like me, having turned off the game after the 3 run shot, you probably missed this.

Embiggen.

by bjk3047 on Apr 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

reyoreyo wins the doubleheader!

"You're Darryl Strawberry!" "Yes?" "You play right field!" "Yes?" "Well, are you better than me?" "I've never met you.... but.... yes."

by Five-Tool Tool on Apr 14, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This
The Mets were done in by terrible at bats, terrible fielding, terrible base running, terrible throws, terrible pitch selection, and terrible decisions.

by tmu on Apr 14, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I didnt see either game unfortunately err...fortunately.

I will take this as the recap

One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!

by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 14, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your eyes will thank you

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your brain will too.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!

by Steve Schreiber on Apr 14, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a shock to….whom?

by donniethelion on Apr 14, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Place looked packed this week

Omar Minaya exists. Walter Reed, We will never forget.

by Mookes7 on Apr 14, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

You're just silly.

A Thursday afternoon doubleheader in April, and crappy weather outside of Monday? Place was as packed as it could have been, silly goose.

"You're Darryl Strawberry!" "Yes?" "You play right field!" "Yes?" "Well, are you better than me?" "I've never met you.... but.... yes."

by Five-Tool Tool on Apr 14, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Enjoying what may be the final season of two of my favorite Mets in Blue and Orange: Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right, every game is in fact a game we can't win

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 14, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I crazy?

or are we not walking enough? I think we average 3 a game.

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably an improvement over last year still, baby steps

plus we had a couple of really high walk totals early which are skewing the numbers. The question is were the early walks an anomaly or are we just in a slump really early.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad.

Bad.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It gets late awful early around here

Fuck this team

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Emaus vs. Murphy

Can the Irish Hammer come out and play?

Enjoying what may be the final season of two of my favorite Mets in Blue and Orange: Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Guys

Keep Calm and Carry On

Omar Minaya exists. Walter Reed, We will never forget.

by Mookes7 on Apr 14, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Thought the Mets were going to ask for Troy's autograph after the game.Has Collins

ever heard of an inside purpose pitch to move Troy off the plate so he can’t dive into the pitch.Never saw a hitter look more comfortable as he terrorized the Met staff over 4 games.Two words to describe the season so far. UH OH!!!

by Putnan Prince on Apr 14, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be so pissed off

If this team were talentless. But they ain’t talentless. They’re talentful.

by Juve1899 on Apr 14, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh

They have a few talented players surrounded by shit

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're probably not this bad

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You see

they aren't clutch

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Apr 14, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there it is

Should be the Mets slogan

Omar Minaya exists. Walter Reed, We will never forget.

by Mookes7 on Apr 14, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

Good one

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

you hit the nail on the head. A bad mix

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Positives

The left side of our infield
Izzy/Iggy

Also, why does every other team homer in our ballpark but us?

by nerfan on Apr 14, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

because our pitchers suck

and our hitters aren’t as good as other teams hitters…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

also our park is specifically built to stifle our best hitters

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 14, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

has something to do with the pitching.

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

El Esta Aqui

Noticed that mess is back

Omar Minaya exists. Walter Reed, We will never forget.

by Mookes7 on Apr 14, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

?

You don’t like the song?

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 years of the same song

Is too much IMO

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate the song

although i noticed he got another one as well. what happened????

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So very glad I didn't shell out money for MLB.tv again this year

It’s sad, but my interest in this team is really waning, to the point that I don’t even really care if I make it to a game anytime soon.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It will get better....eventually.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the norm

for long term Mets fans. You’ll get used to it and embrace it.

by lstorie1971 on Apr 14, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

been a fan since 1991 – had no problem with the early 90’s teams or even the ‘02-’04 teams, but I was living in NY then and I was younger/more optimistic. This team just depresses me, and they’re not worth driving 5+ hours to see, and I hate watching them lose to the Nationals here in DC.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this goes on a couple more weeks, im cancelling cable

so I’ll have to thank the Mets for saving me 50$ per month

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 14, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know if anyone else caught it

but at the end of the 2nd game Gary was talking about all the missed opportunities on offense and misplayed balls in the field and said something along the lines of “And those little things aren’t going to show up in anybodies Wins Above Replacement. The things that win games.” If I wasn’t pissed off enough that sent me over the top. Gary, you’re a great play-by-play man, but for love of Diceky educate yourself a little. You’re embarrassing yourself.

And I’m done trying to defend Hariston. He was god-awful in the field.

Emaus though, despite the missed double plays, I like what I see. He has much better rang than advertised.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard that. That's why fangraphs posts the "King of the Little Things" stat.

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by Michkin on Apr 14, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He brought up WAR in the first game.

I was very surprised. Gary’s a blockhead though, when it comes to that stuff. It’s sad, but it is what it is.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll back gary up

and i doubt any of us don’t think that a team can be more or less than the sum of its parts. otherwise we’d all just be here today saying no big deal, we’ve had leads in a bunch of games, people aren’t playing to their level, it’s only 13 games, sss, fangraphs said our bullpe would be decent, so it’s just a matter of time.

Fact is we all (well, most of us) have the nagging sense that what I said above is true but something ain’t right. Pagan can field, hairston can field. They misjudged some balls last night. The relievers can pitch, but they’ve been dogged and wild. Thye ballpark is designed for Chase Utley and Troy Tulowitzski to hit homers but not david Wright.

It’s frustrating, and it’s more sample size, bad luck and just a plain old bad start than bad players and a lack of “something” in the team. But there’s a lack of “something” element for which wins are a cure. A big losing stretch out of the gate always feels worse.

Gary is being a little “no-nothing” about it, but there’s more to the game then assembling the team with the best collective projected WAR per dollar you have to spend. And I bet Sandy Alderson wouldn’t disagree. That said, itisway too early to determine whether this collection of guys (plus whatever in the minors to supplement) doesn’thave “it” enough toat least hit their potential. They ain’t this bad, 2010 Mariners bad.

It’s a shame to waste it, but Beltran looks ok, about as good as i could hope this early, and Reyes looks great. And the Phillies babip is .351. An the Mets are only 5 1/2 back. :)

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Gary's comment didn't have to do with what you said.

He was dismissing WAR simple because he doesn’t think it accounts for “little things” like bobbling the ball and walking batters and giving up leads right after getting them and allowing the runner to take that extra base. WAR absolutely accounts for those things.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It accounts for everything

and boils it down to a number. Agreed. Historically. But then you get a bunch of guys with good UZRs (and hence WARs) and in one game pagan and hairston both misplay balls leadig to a loss. It happens. And it’s now in their WARs (ever so minutely-those are blips that will barely register in their WARs, not even a -.1). Gary’s wrong, sure, but his sense of it isn’t all that far off (which is why i said he was a bit “know-nothing” about it). Teams can underperform or overperform ther historical expectancies, which will be in this year’s WAR. The Angels for a long time outperformed their pythag (not sure after last year). Fangraphs had an article about it last year, saying there’s something to it, we just don’t know what or how to account for it. Gary is inarticulate abou it and unversed and not actually right. But his sense of it isn’t all that far off.

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

His understand seems to be off as well.

His comment made it seem like he was using WAR is a predictive stat. It’s not. It might be more predictive than RBI, but that doesn’t make it predictive in and of itself.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news

Cliff Lee – 7 innings, 74 pitches, 10 K’s, 0 BB’s, 2 hits. no earned runs so far.

by nerfan on Apr 14, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate the Phillies

I could have lived without knowing that.

by CCE718 on Apr 14, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate the Phillies

Hate the Phillies

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

.351 babip

Highest the last 3 years were .314 in (Reds), .322 in 2009 (Angels), .325 in 2008 (Rangers). They are going to come back to earth. Cliff Lee maybe not.

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We coulda had him

But nooooooooooooooo

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

how?

if he didn’t want the Yankees, why would he have wanted us?

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

We never had a chance to sign Lee.

Never.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

And....

hope almost gone. Now, I never thought we would do better than about +/- five games of .500, but getting swept this early in the season, I am no longer anywhere near confident. Granted, this season is still in its infancy and some of the guys playing poorly should rebound, but now we start the season in a hole. Great, grand, wonderful!!

by CCE718 on Apr 14, 2011 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

In case anyone forgets how bad that Art Howe Roster was...

1. Roger Cedeno
2. Danny Garcia
3. Ty Wigginton
4. Tony Clark
5. Raul Gonzalez
6. Vance Wilson
7. Joe Mcewing
8. Jorge Velandia
9. Jeremy Griffiths (Pitcher spot)

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on Apr 14, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I was a die-hard that year too

and I hardly remember half those players (though I’m nostalgic for cedeno)

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by reyoreyo on Apr 14, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched that team all the time

and yet here I am….

At least then we knew to expect nothing. Now there’s this expectation of competence (not being good, just competence) which we still can’t seem to live up to

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 14, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

that team had Jose Reyes and David Wright (and Scott Kazmir and Aaron Heilman and Lastings Milledge) in the pipe, and was young and fairly exciting, even if they sucked. This team is just depressingly mediocre-bad.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

in that case we already have Wright and Reyes and have Mejia, Harvey, Flores, Puello, and Vaughn in the pipeline.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget familia

the guy has been lights out in st lucie. even better than harvey so far (and he’s younger i think)

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, him too. And Ceciliani.

The point is that if you can find reasons to have been optimistic in the Art Howe days, you should be able to find reasons to be optimistic now.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention we may actually have a competent GM now

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

niewenhuis as well (especially now that he appears to figure out how to draw a walk)

and aderlin rodriguez as well

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, but back then we still had the best years of those guys ahead of us

and I do like the Mets current crop of prospects, but there’s nobody in the farm right now who’s as good of a prospect as either Wright or Reyes in 2003-2004. Mejia maybe, but, TINSTAAPP and all that.

I am legitimately excited for Flores though, I just wish we had a position for him.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that an actual lineup?

if so……wow

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe you mean mouth foaming

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alzheimer moment

I do not remember a Danny Garcia. Or Jeremy Griffiths. Weird.

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember danny garcia existing, but not much else

Jeremy Griffiths sounds made up to me

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember Garcia, too.

He’s now a conditioning coach for the Mariners. How terrible was it that we had 3 of our best prospects were Garcia, Jeff Duncan, and Prentice Redman?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Apr 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon man

abject pessimism is so much more fun.

by lstorie1971 on Apr 14, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not at that stage yet.

I do not feel pessimistic at all. I am a little disinterested this early. And disappointed that the lessons of ST could be forgotten so early. This team has a lot of quit in it. Overhaul is the only real solution.

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I needed that. And like to hear the babip against is .340 (of course with all those catchable flyball doubles yesterday, etc), since as i keep repeating Phils babip for is .351. neither will last.

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's come down to the point

where we should hire the IRA to annihilate all the other NL teams, because that’s the only chance we have of winning these days.

Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
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by R_Adragna on Apr 14, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

smell the smoke

Someone on here wrote that it was “too early to talk fire sale”. I believe the time has come. REALLY rebuild!

by MDMETSFAN on Apr 14, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

You forgot to use the sarcasm font.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is why the news cycle is 3 minutes long

and we can’t address long term problems at any level. Christ. It’s not microwave soup. It’s a baseball team.

by tmu on Apr 15, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i was by both gms and it wasnt pretty

i counted up to 10 defensive miscues
1) angel pagan mysteriously lets ball go over head for a 2B
2) scott hairston mysteriously lets ball go over head for a 2B
3) willy harris (or angel pagan, i couldnt tell) inexplicably kicks a ball into the wall allowing a runner to reach 3rd
4) daniel murphy throws very high and fails to turn 2 after brilliant play by reyes
5) brad emaus drops throw on stolen base attempt on which cargo wouldve been out
6) emaus botches easy DP w/ bases loaded
7)hairston lets ball drop in front of him
8)beltran lets ball drop in front of him
9) nickeas passed ball
10) emaus makes play but looks like a complete retard fielding at 2nd (it was hilarious)

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Number 5

The runner knocked the ball out

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

they dont show replays at the gm so i just assumed he dropped it. i also remember a pitcher messing up on a bunt or comebacker but i dont remember who or when and i couldnt find it in the play by play. is my memory failing me?

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

After watching these 2 games

It is surprising that your body still works – never mind your memory

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

very exausted now actually

we were giving a lot of crap the whole time to travis the ball boy for refusing to give a ball to a little girl. at least that was somewhat entertaining

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both Parns and Igarashi messed the throw to home.

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by Michkin on Apr 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

also (i'm guessing you watched it)

why was hairston’s not called a hr? i was sitiing right near the corner and it clearly hit the orange line. also, what exactly happened on the kicked ball play?

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hit the orange line

Ball is in play

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would explain things

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did not see the other play

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

its amazing they only got credited w/ 1 error in the 2 gms

although the funniest miscue was hairstons infield pop up 2B

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

#4: was a tough play. He might not have gotten him even if it wasn't high.

#5: CarGo’s shoulder knocked the ball out off the glove. Nothing he could do there.
#10: he made a great stop just to get the ball. It sucks he couldn’t get the ball clean to turn 2, but at least he got 1 out there.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

#10 i'm talking about a diff play (i think)

it was 7th inning in 2nd gm, routine grounder and he looked very confused. again, since at the gm no replays it could be that there was something we didnt see but everybody in the stands was cracking up. agree that i’m giving murph too much flack for the throw but if we only had mediocre 1B and not ike it easily couldve been an error on the throw

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were 2 double play chances by Emaus that resulted in only 1 out.

On one, he made a very nice stop on CarGo going to his right but the ball popped out of his glove as he was getting up.
The other I’m not too sure about. I thought you were referring to this play in #6.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

#6 was when de la rosa was up w/ bases loaded 1 out

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Apr 14, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

lohaus#54 showed up in the game thread!!

lohaus#54 showed up in the game thread!!

by tmu on Apr 14, 2011 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Does The Costanza Rule apply here?

Last year we won 10 in a row in the first half of the season and didn’t make the playoffs? So, this year we loss 10 in a row …. and make the playoffs?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 14, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

possible

Though unikely. We need to sell more pcs. Lloyd braun is kicking our ass

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Apr 14, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and laughing at us!

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 14, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rockies have a team and it's really early

but that was a frigging disgrace. Never at any point during that in insanely idiot performance was there ever even anything close that could be considered solid baseball.

I award you no points Terry Collins and may god have mercy on your sole.

by AnthonyR on Apr 14, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Leave his shoes out of this.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The title has it wrong

The journey is THRU suck not INTO suck. Into insinuates that we arent there yet. I want one of you to actually stand up and say that without taking a shot (I mean a drink).

P.S. Congrats to reyoreyo to sitting thru both games, your a better fan than I am

by rcnt123 on Apr 14, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

This is looking for light in a dark corner, but the Braves are playing almost as poorly as we are

They’re now 5-8, and after winning their first series, they’ve also lost their last 3.series.

Maybe their suck can negate some of our suck.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 14, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

But

it is Atlanta, Georgia. The ninth circle of hell.

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

The rules of suckiness state that “only the suckiness of your team counts when determining the level of your own, or collective, depression.”

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 14, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Just sent in the 2nd K Counter.

The Mets now have the highest BB/9 rate (4.5) and the 3rd highest Team ERA (5.27) in the National League. The pitching has to get better, or this could be a serious trend for the New York Mets.

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by sparbz on Apr 14, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Mets pitching staff has a .332 BABIP, which is the 4th highest in baseball

There should be some regression, and the sooner, the better.

"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Apr 15, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

not with the atrocious outfield defense we've seen

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sparbz

Those K counters are superb!!!

Gonna rec u for them!

One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!

by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 15, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks man, appreciate at as always!

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by sparbz on Apr 15, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna Be A Long Season

I figured this year was all about the front office deciding who to keep and who to get rid of but I at least hoped the team would be watchable. So far, not really.

by millsy on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't understand what everyone is so upset about.

We’re going to go 149-0 from this point on, and shatter all kinds of records. Gotta lose a few games, to make it look like the rest of the league is competition. We’re done doing that now.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

ROOKIES VS. VETERANS

How about after another month or so of this, the Mets give some younger players AB’s that are being wasted on veterans right now? Even if F-Mart, Evans, Turner, etc., do poorly to start, I believe the at-bats will be more of more benefit towards gaining experience for them than watching Hairston & Harrison hit around .200. Mets fans are savvy- they’ll realize that once a real youth movement starts they’ll need to be patient.

by MDMETSFAN on Apr 15, 2011 7:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Harrison? Do you mean Willie Harris?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Apr 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

13 games into the season

And 5.5 gamws back already.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 15, 2011 7:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It's early

but it is also getting late

by jdon on Apr 15, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah,

and it’s getting late awful early

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 15, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as they are

within 7 1/2 with 17 games left it’s doable. So i’ve heard.

by wobatus on Apr 15, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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