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A Quick Look At Mike Pelfrey's First Start Through PITCHf/x

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Figure 1: Two graphs showing the Velocity, Horizontal Movement, and Vertical Movement (not counting the drop due to gravity) of Mike Pelfrey's pitches on opening day.  The pitches are organized by color:

Red = Four-Seam Fastballs
Orange = Two-Seam Fastballs/Sinkers
Yellow = Splitters
Blue = Sliders
Purple = Curveballs.

NOTE:  I'm really not confident in my breakdown of 4-seam and 2-seam fastballs; Harry Pavlidis came up with different groupings.  But those ARE fastballs of some type. 

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So in honor of opening day I opted to take a really quick look at Mike Pelfrey's pitches from today using pitchf/x.  The pitches can be seen above in Figure 1. 

One interesting thing of note was Pelfrey's low use of his splitter in this start.  If you recall, Pelfrey started big on that splitter last year, but decreased his usage of the pitch as the season went on.  By September, he would still use the pitch 18% of the time against left-hand batters (down from 25% to start the season), but only 8% of the time against right-handed batters (down from a high of 22.5% of the time in June). 

Today, Pelfrey threw 3 splitters to left-handed batters out of 34 pitches (8.8%) and 5 to right-handed batters out of 63 pitches (7.9%).  Mind you this is a ridiculously small sample size, but clearly Pelfrey wasn't looking to use this pitch as he did to start last year, as a new deadly weapon. 

The pitch's movement and velocity by the way seem basically the same as last year, as much as we can tell from this tiny sample (8 pitches). 

Star-divide

The other clearly interesting thing about this game was Pelfrey's use of his slider.  At the end of last year, Pelfrey increased his usage of his slider against right-handed batters dramatically (at the same time as his splitter use was dropping).  He went from throwing the pitch against these batters 6.6% of the time in June to 22.7% of the time in September. By Contrast, Pelfrey barely used the pitch against left-handed batters (those batters faced the curveball instead)

Pelfrey continued these trends on opening day.  He threw sliders to right-handed batters 1/3 of the time (21 out of 63 pitches)!  Of course....this wasn't an amazingly successful tactic: While the pitch did result in 4 outs and a swinging strike, 12 of these 21 pitches were called balls.  Of course, all 4 of these outs were groundouts, so it's not like the pitch was poor either. 

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Really nothing else is worth noting about this start based on the data we have here.  Pelfrey threw 8 curveballs, all to left-handed batters (a trend continuing from last year), but mainly relied upon his fastball against both types of batters.  Obviously, he did not have great results. 

Conclusion:

Pelfrey's pitches appear to be the same in movement and velocity as last year.  The question is whether he can harness them better.  He seems to be continuing his trend from September in ditching the splitter largely and relying upon his slider as a prime off speed pitch.  I'm not quite so sure that's the best option for him. 

One thing I haven't touched on his the ground ball rate on these pitches, mainly because we can't really judge that based upon one start.  But it bears major watching.  Last year (as you'd know if you read the Amazin Avenue Annual), Pelfrey could get ground balls from Righties, but against lefties the ball was quite frequently in the air.  As Pelfrey pitches throughout this month, we need to keep an eye on whether that trend continues.

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If you really study these charts they are very meaningful and helpful. Thanks!

by CoachKennyBuford on Apr 2, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice write up

From what I gathered Watching Pelf in person, his pitches seemed to have no movement, and if they did it was slight movement. He also looked completely uncomfortable the whole night, from pitch 1. His velocity also seemed off, his fastballs were 90-91, with a few at 92-93.

by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 2, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw him top out at 94 MPH while JJ hit 96 MPH consistently through the 6th inning.

Looking particularly at the right graph, I’d like to see Pelfrey throw more Split-Fingers to mix up with his Slider, keep guys guessing on the spin while the velocity is generally the same. Subtle changes like that sometimes work wonders for pitchers, especially if he’s not going to get his velocity up a few more notches on a consistant basis.

With that said, I’m no pro, just an amateur fan.

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by sparbz on Apr 2, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the chart above

Pelfrey’s fastball topped out at 93.6 MPH. It stayed on average around 91-92

Scoreboard on TV velocities are not as accurate usually as the pitchf/x gun.

by garik16 on Apr 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charts? We don't need no stinking charts

I can see with my own two eyes that have watched and played (pitched) baseball for over 40 years. I don’t need a chart. Pelfrey sucks. Trade him at the deadline and lets get that stench from the last four years out of our locker too.

Pelfrey (1) lacks consistent command of his pitches; (2) has no real secondary and tertiary pitches to speak of; (3) doesn’t miss bats, i.e. he get the strikeout when he needs it (this is IMO pathetic for a so-called power pitcher that he is supposed to be; (4) he lacks mental toughness. (I’m sure I can come up with more, if I took the time.)

As far as I’m concerned, he’s the fifth starter on the team. I like Dickey, Niese, Young and Capuano all way better than Pelfrey. I even like Dillon Gee better than Pelfrey. All these guys have one two things in common: (1) they all pound the strike zone consistently; and (2) they all have other “major league level” pitches (except for maybe Dickey, but he doesn’t count in that category because of the KB).

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 2, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Lucky

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 2, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sound like youre from metsmerized...

Are you a spy? Or maybe the poster by the name of Bayonne?

by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I can see with my own two eyes"

When someone starts off with that, the argument usually turns out to be terrible.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 2, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

When somebody responds with that

they usually never played baseball.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 2, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glider, come on, you know better than that.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Can somebody please put a stop to this

I know this will not end up well if allowed to happen. Just call Mets’ Luck.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/sports/baseball/03dickey.html?ref=sports

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Apr 2, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Dickey can go visit Mookie

Kenya isn’t exactly Zambia, but…

Man, is if R.A. Dickey couldn’t get more fucking awesome. He just did.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hard thing about a climb like that

Is breathing and fighting altitude sickness. If you’re susceptible, you probably don’t summit; otherwise, it’s just really hard work. He’s not going to break anything, it’s a hike. He mentions the what-could-happens, but he could fall and break a wrist on a hike at a state park.

by SuperT on Apr 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You, sir, read my mind,

because I was going to twitter you asking if you had his pitch data, so see where he went wrong.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 2, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Where'd the splitter go?

I’ll be the first to admit that I haven’t pored through last year’s data, so forgive me if this has been covered before. Why has he cut down on the splitter? Wasn’t it a big part of his success early last year? IIRC, I was hearing a lot about how Pelfrey had finally found his “out pitch.” Was he scared off by his rough stretch in mid-season? Has he lost the “feel” for it?

by xnumberoneson on Apr 2, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Does he have anything that can act as come kind of changeup?

"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Apr 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Splitter.

He replaced his meh change-up with the splitter. It’s solid in terms of movement and velo, but he’s really gone away from it.

The Curve seems to be more and more used against lefties.

by garik16 on Apr 2, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but I meant besides the splitter

If he’s not using the splitter, and he’s not using a changeup, it seems to me that he’s pitching at a disadvantage.

"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Apr 2, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, not really.

I see a lot of pitchers seem to have a change-up they use only against lefties, but they barely use it and the pitch is terrible. It just seems pointless at times.

by garik16 on Apr 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

Why was his curveball scrapped in the first place? It had to be an injury concern, right? I’ve gotta believe that this is the biggest reason he went from a guy with ace potential to merely a solid groundball pitcher, but maybe that’s because none of his offspeed pitches were good enough to beat ML hitters in the first place.

His slider has always been pretty bad, though. That move still makes no sense to me.

Kicking knowledge in the face.

by BlackOps on Apr 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The Curveballs been back for a while.

And it was scrapped if I recall because Peterson favored a slider.

And no, losing the curveball did not change Pelfrey’s potential….Pelfrey never had a great curve and really his potential has been limited by a failure to use his fastballs effectively against left-handed batters.

by garik16 on Apr 2, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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