Phillies 2, Mets 1: Halladay Gives 'em Hell
by James Kannengieser on Apr 30, 2011 4:02 PM EDT
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Compare Roy Halladay's performance against the Mets at Citizens Bank Park last season on May 1st with what he did today:
| IP | H | R | BB | K | Pitches | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May 1st, 2010 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 118 |
| April 30th, 2011 | 9 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 107 |
Near-identical, dominating starts about a year apart. The difference is that Mets pitchers allowed 10 runs in last year's game while Jon Niese and a trio of relievers combined to hold the Phillies' bats in check today. The Mets were actually leading 1-0 this afternoon thanks to a Carlos Beltran RBI single in the fourth inning, before Niese gave up a solo home run to John Mayberry leading off the seventh. Niese then allowed a single to Wilson Valdez, inexplicably walked recent call-up Dane Sardinha and struck out Halladay before giving way to Taylor Buchholz. Shane Victorino singled off Buchholz to load the bases and the red hot Placido Polanco drove in Valdez with a sacrifice fly. Halladay shut the Mets down in the eighth and ninth innings and that's your ballgame.
Niese wasn't exactly dominant -- he tallied just 3 swinging strikes and 3 strikeouts in 6.1 innings. He threw a first pitch strike to only 9 of the 27 batters he faced, or 33.3%. Compare to his 2011 rate of 60.9% and career rate of 60.4%. Regardless, he held the Phils scoreless through six innings and notched ten groundball outs. That seventh inning walk to Sardinha was the killer. Sardinha's career OPS is .596 -- in the minor leagues. Issuing him a free pass is kangaroo court fine-worthy.
The Mets' 1-through-4 batters went 5-for-14 with a walk against Halladay. That's not bad at all. Unfortunately, Jason Bay and Ike Davis, batting fifth and sixth, respectively, were a combined 0-for-8 with 4 strikeouts. Bay didn't stand a chance, swinging-and-missing at 6 of 15 pitches and K'ing 3 times. Ike took the HACK approach, swinging at five of the seven(!) pitches he saw. He is allowed a bad game. The results of Ike's four plate appearances: double play, foul out, strikeout, ground out. Bill Petti of Beyond The Boxscore notes that Ike has swung at 32% of first pitches this season as compared to just 7% last season. Whether it's indicative of a new approach or just small sample size noise remains to be seen.
This was a tough one, especially after last night's debacle. Beating Halladay would have been a nice morale boost for the fans, and presumably for the team as well. At least it was a quick game, clocking in at just 2 hours, 25 minutes. Speed is king if the Mets are to lose.
The third and final game of the series is tomorrow night at 8:00 on ESPN. Chris Young vs. Cliff Lee is the pitching matchup.
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SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* The Good Phight Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: David Wright +14.7%, Jon Niese +8.7% (as pitcher)
Big losers: Ike Davis -22.2%, Jason Bay -15.8%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Wilson Valdez doube play +15.6%
Teh sux0rest play: John Mayberry home run -23.3%
Total pitcher WPA: +0.7%
Total batter WPA: -50.7%
GWRBI!: Placido Polanco
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
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| 1 | Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan | 172 |
| 2 | sparbz | 92 |
| 3 | mistermet | 74 |
| 4 | TKFJ | 67 |
| 5 | I'mGivingYouARaise | 58 |
| 6 | MetsFan4Decades | 53 |
| 7 | Mets-Suns-Texans | 53 |
| 8 | the caveman | 47 |
| 9 | aparkermarshall | 43 |
| 10 | MilnerTime | 34 |
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Halladay had 1.6 fWAR going into today's game
He’s arguably the best pitcher in baseball. I’m not happy that we lost 2-1, but I’m certainly not embarrassed.
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He has more winz than Koufax!!11!1
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
McCarver may have reached his pinnacle in stupidity today
“People care more about pitch counts than they do about winning!”
“David Murphy scores!”
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
Not as stupid as the Phillies announcers last night
Saying how David Wright has turned it around this year cutting back on his strikeouts and hitting the ball the other way better.
Felix, Johnson, and Lincecum are all right there (as is Lee).
And Weaver is really putting himself in the conversation too.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I don't know...
At times, it’s really not close. Wish I could also stick Lee, Johnson, and Weaver in there, too.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Total fWAR since 2009 (this year's fWAR) :
1. Halladay: 15.6 (1.6)
2. Verlander: 15.3 (0.7)
3. Greinke: 14.7 (NA)
4. Lincecum: 14.6 (1.3)
5. Lee: 14.6 (0.9)
6. Hernandez: 14.1 (1.1)
7. Johnson: 13.1 (1.2)
13. Weaver: 11.4 (1.7)
Weaver has been ever so slightly better so far and Lincecum is right there. But Verlander has actually been basically Halladay’s equal over the last 2 years and change (and Greinke would have been if not for his early injury this year).
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Halladay has been doing this since 2002, which is why I don't think it's really close
Of course, you can’t fault Lincecum or Johnson, who only started pitching in the last couple of years, but I think it’s a lot more impressive to put up the 5.0+ elite pitcher WAR for like almost a decade, and still be up there with the big boys, than just to have posted those kind of numbers in the last year or three.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
When I think of "best whatever" I think of a window of about 2-3 years with heavy emphasis on more current performance - like ZiPS.
Yeah, what Halladay has done for the last 10 some odd years is very impressive, but it has little to do with how he preforms now.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Well, he's still the best now, too, but...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
No I agree with Russ, this is a loss that is almost acceptable.
The guy is the best pitcher in the NL and we got a small lead and could not hold it.
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We lost, at least. We weren't embarassed.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Losing to mouthbreathers is never fun.
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
good effort bad result
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Apr 30, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
their GM does more
look I am OK with waiting a season for Sandy to do something more, but Amaro has done his job the last few season so the Phils are a better team. It sucks but it is the truth and hopefully somehow we can be better than them next season
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by Rickfansince76 on Apr 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Phillies are gonna crash and burn real soon.
Almost as excited with that as I am the fact that the Mets won’t be sucking as much as they do right now in about the same amount of time.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything Amaro has hurt the phils going forward
The core of his team was build by his predecessor, not him.
The Phillies are not a better team because of Amaro
They are a better team because of Pat Gillick, Amaro’s predecessor. Amaro was handed an excellent organization and he’s compromising it for a 1-3 year window where the Phillies can contend. Without his maneuvers, the Phillies may have been contenders anyway. But because of what he has done, they will soon slide into a good, but not great team, with a depleted farm system and a grossly inflated payroll.
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Boy, that sounds familiar, a good, but not great team, with a depleted farm system and a grossly inflated payroll.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well. One more abrupt 6 game winning streak and we'd be over .500.
Unlikely, but perhaps when he get home we’ll get going again.
I'm not afraid of Lincecum
He’s really good, of course, but we’ve beaten him.
doesn't matter if you or I are afraid
what matters is are the Mets ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
I'm not certain that matters either
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by Thomas Wachtel on Apr 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Multiple times.
Lincecum is one guy we actually beat around with some regularity
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And Sanchez. And Kershaw.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Giants and Dodger do not scare me
Both offenses are not clicking right now. Dodgers pen might be worse than ours. Kershaw, Cain, Sanchez, Lincecum are not AS dominating this yr so far. But again that could change when we face them.
Why would you walk Dane Freakin' Sardinha (Who?) twice?
They were pretty obvious pitcharounds. I just can’t stand it!!!! Pitch to the scrubs!!!
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 30, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
I'm sure that Terry will get a memo from the F.O.
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yup, and a day after walking B-Schneid twice, once intentionally of course
it’s losing baseball
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by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 30, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
why interrupt beer money?
at least I can realistically root for someone instead of rehashing this downtrodden shitfest
"this is not live." - Lindsey Nelson
Was a long shot going in.
Waste of a good start by Niese. Would have just assume had Pelf opposing Halladay and putting Niese up against either of the other 2.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 30, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
Couldn't get the big hit in the 4th
Gotta take advantage when you have a guy like Halladay on the ropes.
Matt Vasgergian is a crappy announcer, or the crappiest announcer?
That was horrible, having to sit through that. Tim McCarver didn’t make it much better.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
Tim McCarver? The only things he is better than are Cancer and Joe Buck
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
and Matt Vasgersian.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
A young R.A. enjoys bath time.
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Why is there a Playstation 2 game and a naked barbie doll in the water?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really want to know the answer?
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The Playstation 2 game, maybe.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And why an X-Box?
R.A. can’t be understood and we shouldn’t even try.
All hail Dickey!
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, didn't even notice the X-Box!
Thought that was like a plastic bag or something
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that's an xbox game
Enjoying what may be the final season of two of my favorite Mets in Blue and Orange: Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran
It was
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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Eh, you didn't miss much
A bunch of singles, Beltran RBI, a John Mayberry HR and a sac fly, Hday1 went 9, that’s all she wrote.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice recap, succinct.
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Selfish Beltran
padding his stats. If he was a team player, he would've brought home two
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by Aidan Gibson on Apr 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
#BlameBeltran
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
not here, we had the Rays/Angels in Maine
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by Rickfansince76 on Apr 30, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How does FOX do this stuff?
You’d think it’d make sense to show the game of the closest market, if you’re not in the specific Phillies zone, or the specific Mets zone. Can’t get much further geographically from Maine than Florida and California.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all up to the individual broadcast companies
So say there is a Rockies fan running the station in Maine when they play on Fox Saturday…yeah you’ll probably get that game
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Wow. Retarded.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Same in Rhode Island
it pissed me off
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by Aidan Gibson on Apr 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I had St louis/atlanta in Arizona
usually we get the Dodgers or angels. it was an odd choice.
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by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Apr 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Unintentional sexual quote of the game:
“There’s not a part of the 162 game season where a pitcher can’t use a blow.” -Tim McCarver
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Are you sure that it was unintentional?
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They were blowing Halladay the entire game from the booth, so maybe not
I’m impressed that he threw a CG like he did while getting a BJ from them. That makes it even more impressive.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Off topic, but anyone else laughing that Pablo Sandoval
landed on the DL because he broke his “HAMate” bone? Of all the bones to break, or muscles to pull…
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Obligatory Pablo Sandoval comment:
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 30, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
was anything even rec'd today?
it seems as if there’s a ominous “meh” that crept within our midst. I guess halladay will do that to you
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A few pictures in the gamethread.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 30, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote of the game about Joe Buck
“I wish he would so the country a favor and just take the damn Cardinals job and leave the rest of baseball alone”-Aparkermarshall
well done sir, well done!
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by scott from peekskill on Apr 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
Sunday Night on ESPN
Well I hope that we dont get out butts kicked to bad on Sunday Night :{ This is what makes me angry about this team. All the good things during the six game winning streak and we are about to drop 4 in a row and perhaps a 5th when we get home :{ We cannot keep doing this. I had no faith at all that we would win today or on Sunday, I did think we would win on Friday :{ LETS GO METS!!!
We need Wright to get his shit together
If the Mets are going to sustain any success they are going to need to do it using their offense/defense. Ike has been great, Beltran looks encouraging, Reyes and Murphy have been solid at the top. The missing pieces is Wright;s general averageness to this point in the year.
I’m not trying to say that Wright is the difference between the Mets being where they are and say a couple games over .500, but at the same time his start to the year has been a bit alarming to me. It just seems that he’s continuing to get worse on the K front instead of putting it behind him and turning this back to 2008 form.
He's been worth 0.6 WAR so far.
Not great but certainly not bad (Polanco leads 3B with 1.4 followed by Jack Hannahan at 1.3).
Save Jenrry Mejia!
correct
and we need Wright to be very good. He hasn’t been bad per say, but if he can regain some of that 2006-2009 mojo the Mets offense could be scary good.
that and clean up the D
another -10 run defensive year ain’t gonna cut it.
That's the difference between a "pedestrian" 3.5 - 4.0 WAR season
and a real good 4.5 – 5.0 WAR season. Compare 2006 to, say, 2010: His wOBA in ‘06 was .385, only about .20 points higher than it was in ’10. He posted a 4.9 WAR in 2005 to his 4.1 WAR in 2010. The major difference? About -5 in the UZR. He cleans up the 2010 defense about 5 UZR worth or so, and he’s posting a 4.5 – 5.0 WAR. Clean it up a little more, and raise the wOBA a bit? We’re back to the old David Wright, superstar.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The old David Wright superstar put up 7-8 WAR
not 4. While I realize its probably not realistic to expect 7-8 WAR from him, I think 6ish would be nice, and thats a big difference between where he has been the last 2 years.
Being better defensivley, and raising the wOBA as little as .20 points or so
from the 4.5 – 5.0 WAR that simply being a little better defensively would land him in the 6.0+ WAR elite level.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
Anybody going to the game on Tuesday ?.
Just in case someone wants to, you know, have a beer or 30.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
I'll be there!
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for real ?
no shit ?.
don’t you live like in Siberia or something ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
No man I live in North Jersey haha.
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This team is literally the worst rollercoaster evar
I was so happy a few days ago. Back to reality, I guess
oh, there goes gravity
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vomit on her sweater already
I know that isn’t the next line, it was just the first I thought of
There goes Rabbit, he choked.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Im completely shocked it was this close.
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Yankees fans VS Mets fans...
The big difference between the two fans is simple, Yankee fans are always waiting for the next big winning streak that they know is right around the bend. Mets fans are always waiting for the next loosing streak which is right around the bend. The Yankees dont win 6 and lose 5 or win 9 and lose 6, they win six and lose 1 or win 9 and lose 3, that is the difference. This team SUCKS, right now, and, has for a few years. Fans might feel different IF they had won 6 and lost 2. Every time they look good and pick up some ground, they look just as bad and lose a bunch of game in a row. I thought that dumping Ollie and Louie, getting a new GM and manager would change the attitude of the team, but, it has not changed at all. Reyes and Wright play like bums, Beltran and Bay, what can I say? We are 7.5 games out, and, dropping fast, its a long season, and, that gives us plenty of games to lose. Let the attacks begin, bring it on!!!
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by SuperT on May 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Thank you
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
E 161st STREET & RIVER AVENUE
have fun.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on May 1, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Reyes and Wright play like bums, Beltran and Bay, what can I say?
Jose Reyes: .308/.344/.436; +0.4 UZR; 1.0 WAR
David Wright: .240/.328/.442; -1.9 UZR; 0.6 WAR
Carlos Beltran: .281/.360/.472; -2.3 UZR; 0.5 WAR
Jason Bay: .265/.324/.412; -1.1 UZR; 0.0 WAR (Limited playing time)
Yeah, bums…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No one's stopping you from jumping ship
This seems like the place for you. Might want to change the name, though.
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Jane, you ignorant slut
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Looks like this is the general consensus, then
"Everything's gonna be awesome." -Ken Oberkfell
"ARSHAVIN IS MAGIC" -Brooks Peck
by Thomas Wachtel on May 1, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Or not
never mind. Reply/picture fail.
"Everything's gonna be awesome." -Ken Oberkfell
"ARSHAVIN IS MAGIC" -Brooks Peck
by Thomas Wachtel on May 1, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
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