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Mets 2, Yankees 1: Dickey Slips Out Of Some Tight Spots, Ends Dry Spell

The Mets kicked off the 15th edition of the Subway Series with a brisk 2-1 win as R.A. Dickey and the Mets bullpen outdueled Freddy Garcia and some shoddy umpiring to finally climb back to .500.

R.A. Dickey went six strong innings, striking out six, the most Ks he has had since his first start of the year. He had to pitch out of an early jam, thanks to the umpiring crew giving Nick Swisher a phantom hit by pitch in the second inning to load the bases, but Dickey got Brett Gardner to ground into a force out to keep the game scoreless.

The Yankees kicked off the scoring in the bottom of the third as Mark Teixera popped a home run just out of the reach of a leaping Carlos Beltran. Now it probably would have been a warning track flyout in the other 29 major league stadiums, but in Teixera's defense, it would have been a homerun in about 60% of American Legion fields.

The Mets struck right back in the top of the fourth as "Buffalo Soldiers" Fernando Martinez and Justin Turner hit back to back two out doubles off Freddy Garcia to knot it at one. The Yankees threatened in the bottom half of the fifth, but Jose Reyes made an excellent diving stop up the middle and threw out Alex Rodriguez by a step at first.

In the fifth, the umpiring crew decided to give the Yankees a make-up call for the blown call against the Nationals. Somehow I am sure this makes sense to Bud Selig. Brett Gardner hit a grounder to Jose Reyes who charged and threw quickly to try and get the speedy Gardner. Daniel Murphy did Reyes no favors by doing a little shuffle around the bag, but his foot was on the bag when he got the throw from. First base umpire Jeff Kellog disagreed, ruling Murphy was off the bag. Jeter followed with a walk to put Yanks on 1st and 2nd with nobody out, but Dickey retired the next three batters in order to preserve the tie.

The Mets took the lead for good in the top of the sixth on a Daniel Murphy blue collar blast that was several rows back into the short porch in right, and thus was a totally legitimate and righteous home run that probably would have flown out of the stadium at Citizen's Bank Park.

The Mets bullpen dominated from there. Mike O'Connor came in and pitched a 1-2-3 seventh, helped out by a comical Curtis Granderson popout on a 3-0 count. Jason Isringhausen matched him in the eigth, fanning Mark Teixera and then getting Alex Rodriguez to flail at a particularly nasty 3-2 cut fastball. K-Rod finished the job with a rare 1-2-3 inning, getting Russell Martin to groundout on one pitch, fanning Jorge Posada and then placing the golden sombrero on Nick Swisher to end the game. 

Star-divide

GAME NOTEBOOK

Despite a few rough patches, tonight's R.A. Dickey looked much more like last year's model. The fast knuckleball was routinely getting up into the 80s and had some nice bite in on left-handed batters. Five of his six strikeouts came against left-handed batters, which is nice to see as efties have roughed Dickey up a bit this year. The walks are still a bit higher than you would like, but the groundballs and Ks were there tonight. Dickey's HR/FB% and LOB% figured to regress some this year, and they have, but the real key for him  is going to be getting that walk rate back down towards his 2010 levels.

Justin Turner continued to rake, going 3-4 with two doubles and a bunt single that would have been a bunt double if Freddy Garcia didn't get to it, because 'Human Statue'  Alex Rodriguez certainly wasn't going to. Just to pile on, even two years ago, A-Rod probably beats out the grounder up the middle in the bottom of the fifth.

Mets pitchers struck out 11 Yankees on the night, including four of the last six they faced.

Tomorrow we go at it again, 7:10 on FOX. Pleasantly, the rapture is scheduled for 6 PM, thus sparing us all one more Buck/McCarver broadcast. Or maybe that is the time of tribulation mentioned in Revelations. It certainly qualifies. Chris Capuano (3-4, 4.78, 43.1 IP, 34 K, 15 BB) takes on A.J. Burnett (4-3, 3.99, 56.1 IP, 42 K, 19 BB).

SB Nation Coverage

* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Pinstripe Alley Gamethread

Win Probability Added

Big winners: R.A. Dickey, +28.2% WPA, Francisco Rodriguez, +23.2% WPA
Big losers: Josh Thole, -14.8% WPA, Jason Bay, -11.7% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Murphy home run in sixth, +14.5% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Teixeira "home run" in third, -11.0% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +78.6% WPA
Total batter WPA: -28.6% WPA
GWRBI!: Daniel Murphy

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by fxcarden; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 fxcarden 174
2 sp0rtsfan86 156
3 Spike Davis 149
4 CTRefJay 131
5 Evan_S 115
6 MetsFan4Decades 97
7 Shevshevy 93
8 mistermet 83
9 BeltransMole 78
10 TKFJ 77

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The 2010 Dickey is back, we won, and Dicktorino is on the DL

Not a bad day.

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on May 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Dickey Be Praised!

I guess him winning stops judgement day huh?

Happy Dickey’s don’t cause destruction.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

never been so happy to see that out dated tune

hot damn. LETS GO METS. GINGER POWER. DONT TRADE REYES. IRISH HAMMER BLUE COLLAR BLAST.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great win, absolutely dominant pitching

That 8th inning by Izzy was cold blooded.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, many props to the pen tonight

Especially that cut fastball by Izzy. He is definitely my favorite Mets comeback story, even more so than the Fernando Tatis resurrection of 08.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on May 20, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Valentin forever!

Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey

by Spike Davis on May 20, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

RA Dickey??

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he was never prev good in the majors

he was just a top pick that took way too long to deliver

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 20, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the way you think

I prefer to think of it as a long journey through the wilderness before he found his true calling, not really a comeback

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on May 21, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if anyone needed proof the YES Network was full of douches

Jack Curry after the game said the Mets winning was like a 15th seed beating a 2 seed (the Yankees)

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

.

humility

"The Mets can't even do well in the Arab League."

by hnymustprtzl on May 20, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck them.

i hate yankee fans so much

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YES network...

a professional atmosphere full of unbiased former Yankees, the amazing Mike Kay and the beautiful Kim Jones

Irrational Mets fan known for memorable ranting and raving, when things inevitably go wrong.

by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...

beautiful Kim Jones

Irrational Mets fan known for memorable ranting and raving, when things inevitably go wrong.

by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey

by Spike Davis on May 20, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

his valtrex

FOR COLD SORES!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Captain Herp!

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now I know this call is old.

Nowadays, the call would be more like "A SLOW 6-HOPPER TO REYES!! TO TEJADA FOR ONE!! AND ON TO MURPHY FOR THE DOUBLE PLAY!!!

by Fmaxpont on May 20, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this team is actually good

and should probably be better. it all comes down to pitching, but we have enough right now

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 20, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most 2 seeds

are more than 3 games above .500

You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.

by Kevin H on May 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 runs last four games, and we've won 3 of them

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Adam Rubin
The Mets’ bullpen has allowed only six earned runs in 51 1/3 innings in May, for a 1.05 ERA.

crazy

"The Mets can't even do well in the Arab League."

by hnymustprtzl on May 20, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got to give some points to Sandy

getting rid of those not performing sooner rather than later.

by MetsFan4Decades on May 20, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Love the Sandy

Love the Sandy

Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey

by Spike Davis on May 20, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

#firesandyalderson

#firesandyalderson

Umm…“Things That Asshole Greg Pomes Says” for $100, Alex.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

greg pomes

can go pee on the 3rd rail

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly

that wouldn’t do anything unless he gets hit by a train.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

so..

he can take a long walk of a short pier?

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll block the trains

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on May 20, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

would've liked to have seen Iggy go

before he sharted all over the bed, but I guess everyone deserves a shot at failure.

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by Cory Braiterman on May 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF Does this mean?

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Igarashi was DFA'd

Would have been nice to send him packing before he managed to blow us that extra innings game, instead of after, but that’s life.

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by Cory Braiterman on May 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, sorry! Gotcha.

I thought you meant Izzy, my bad.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No image for the recap?

I suggested one in the gamethread.

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA

by Michkin on May 20, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice to see Dickey rebound from his last start

He did a good job getting out and jams. Reyes had a spectacular game on the defensive end. He is playing the best defense he’s played in years, imo. Turner continues to rake and it was nice to see Murph get a big hit as he’s struggled mightily. Th bullpen was dominant again.

by graves9 on May 20, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really surprising.

UZR at a month’s sample size is what we call: “Useless.” It might tell you something at the extremes…if a player has a terrific or godawful UZR it MIGHT mean something, but if he’s in the middle it tells you nada.

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Pitchf/x enthusiast.

by garik16 on May 20, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah.

I’m not trying to say it’s representative of anything. The eyes seem to suggest that he’s been very good.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

the new york mets

had their cereal this morning..rode in the front seat

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone catch Dickey's post-game comments?

Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey

by Spike Davis on May 20, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

This?

“With 50,000 people out there, to make them shut up at the end of the game is quite nice.”

by MetsFan4Decades on May 20, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, sorry

that was KRod’s quote.

Yes, I heard RA’s interview.

by MetsFan4Decades on May 20, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any verbal gems?

Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey

by Spike Davis on May 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not specifically

but he was his usual philosophical self.

Giving kudos all around to the team.

by MetsFan4Decades on May 20, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. I kind of figured it wouldn't be the "shut up" statement.

Dickey’s way too “Soft”-hearted to say something like that. ;)

by BrockRocks on May 20, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

tron....got robbed of a bring backer

business yankee fan douche, entertaining clients could have been called for fan interference.

win though more important

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Sadly no

and not that I usually read your posts in a caveman voice.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 20, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol ok

i’ve had my fair share of drinks. not drunk. just that being in charlotte,nc …bars are the only place i can watch los mets. met a fellow met fan while out. good times. we mocked yankees fans and we came to the conclusion that K.bay for david dejesus be a ok trade

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always had a soft spot for DeJesus..

seeing as he is a Rutgers grad and all.

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by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

krod has been awesome

he seems better the more we use him

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

at this rate he is actually going to earn his vest

and i wont be pissed about it!!!!!!!

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else surprised he pitched a clean 9th inning

thought for sure he was gonna blow it or at least strand runners on the corners before the final out.

by TheKid08 on May 20, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i expected at least 1 walk

he didnt disappoint with that curve that bounced to the plate. but other than that…he looked strong. my smile is 8 miles wide right now. good stuff

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes been on a roll

so i didn’t think he would blow it. i figured the Skanks would get a baserunner just because they are so patient

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 20, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

More to do with the Wankee bats first pitch swinging and being in the hole very quickly.

0-2 makes it tough to get a walk out of a closer especially one pitching as well as Krod is right now.

There advanced scouting sucked it up.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, if he keeps pitching this good

I’d assume a trade is not out of question. I know it’d be a big contract for a team to pick up, but there is usually a few closer-desparate teams that are in the playoff race.

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably

depends on what has gotten us to that point. if its ridiculous production from Justin Turner and other complimentary players, then we probably can sell. If Wright, the pitchers and many other things are going great, fuck selling because we could be really good.

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 21, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

It also depends on how Beato does the rest of the year.

If he is legit and we can get a decent return on Krod, it could still make sense to pull the trigger even if our big guns are going good.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 21, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Picking up some of the salary

I think the Mets can probably trade K-Rod providing that they’re willing to pick up some of the salary, like, for instance, all of this year’s salary + the buyout for next year. That would give you another team K-Rod for the remainder of this season for free, and then at 1 yr/$13 mil or so, which really isn’t bad value at all.

Bottom line is that assuming the Mets are in as difficult financial shape as everyone seems to think, I suspect they’ll be able to defray at least part of the K-Rod costs.

by sjohnson125 on May 21, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's a very good point

but if we’re giving up that much money, i expect a bona fide prospect in return, especially with how the nationals got wilson ramos for freaking matt capps

by jhMLB on May 21, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one's taking him as a closer

Not with that vesting option on the table. Only hope is to trade him to a team with a strong, established closer so he can be an awesome setup guy.

by chakrabs on May 21, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harold Reynolds..

pissing me off talking about Reyes on MLBTonight.

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by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

He has a point, but for the wrong reasons

The Mets can’t realistically expect to win the division, but they can and should keep Reyes, because he is awesome at baseball.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is what I meant.

We realistically know that we have slim to no chance to make the playoffs, although I will always hope against hope.

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by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm biased but I wouldn't say we have that little chance to make the playoffs.

Winning the division, yes probably very little chance, but the way we’ve been playing with injuries to 3 of our best players makes me optimistic that theyll have a chance for a wild card. Imagine this team with ike and david back in the lineup, beltran probably continuing to become more comfortable, and johan back in the lineup.

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to set my expectations low..

I could see it happening, but it would take a stroke of destiny.

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by TKFJ on May 20, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol as a mets fans thats always a good strategy.

I also forgot pagan. if pagan, wright, ike, come back quick and everyone stays healthy, and johan comes back and returns to form, we’ll be a competitive team I think. Then hopefully our bullpen will stay this good, which has been the most pleasant surprise so far in my opinion.

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't forget about...

#BlameBoyer

"Anybody with ability can play in the big leagues. But to be able to trick people year in and year out the way I did, I think that was a much greater feat." -Bob Uecker
"Who is the girl in the dugout, with the long hair? What's going on here? You have got to be kidding me. Only player personnel in the dugout. I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout." -Kieth Hernandez

by metman726 on May 21, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

just based on 15 years of watching

i don’t think we’ll make it, but we will make it interesting for long enough for the end to be a disappointment

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure but

remember that the 2010 Mets were 8 games over .500 at the all star break.

Yeah, those Mets. I’m not holding my breath at this point.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 20, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 Games over .500

8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500 8 Games over .500

Bwaahhahhahahahahahahhahhhhha!!! ;)

by BrockRocks on May 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So just like the Phillies are right now.

Just like the Mets 2006-10, injuries killed us as they will the Phillies.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually,

the 2010 Mets were 20-22 just before the first Subway series and then went on a tear and finished June with 44-34 record. Anything’s possible.

by alexSVK on May 21, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

#donttradereyes

#signreyesnow

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Reynolds and all of the guys on MLBTonight and the other shows on MLB network piss me off.

I just watch those shows because I want to see what is going on around the league, listening to them say retarded shit is not too much fun.

I did watch like 4+ hours of that straight on opening day though, was on major baseball withdrawl.

by Shevshevy on May 21, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, watch it for the games and round up not for the retarded commentators.

Reynolds et al know little about what is going on in teams but certainly do like to hype bullshit they hear in the MSM.

F.CK the MSM, Cerrone, etc.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little Dickey goes a long way.

Probably the first time a little Dickey has made my Friday night a pleasant one.

by Fmaxpont on May 20, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

the win tonight

best feeling win of the year?

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say the Beltran 3 HR game was better, but this one felt great

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call

we did deny the denver residents tacos that night

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

for me yes

i live in an area of alot of yankee fans who were all guaranteeing a yankee sweep. so this one felt great. im confident we’ll win one more game at least and than I wont have to hear anything from them

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually its close with

the game against the nats where jose got robbed of the 3B and murph hit the HR and they extended their streak to 6 games. That one was amazing

by letsgomets31 on May 20, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we get an updated blue collar blast photo?

i love that guy

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah and the streaker made that game even better.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess

but im more pissed we made the jobba look good

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 20, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He certainly didnt need our help to make him look morbidly obese.

Did he eat David Wells?

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Rec'd

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Thole slugging percentage is at .250

I knew he wasn’t gonna hit for much power but that is ridiculous. I expected him to hit for avg and draw a good amount of walks, but that hasn’t happened either. He actually has started to walk a bit more, but the rest of his game is a mess.

by graves9 on May 20, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

His OPS is .540

To say he’s a liability would be putting it lightly. The Mets either need to start Paulino on a regular basis or make a trade for a catcher.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 20, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or they could let the kid continue to play though his struggles

and see if he is legit or not. I wouldn’t cut bait with him after his first prolonged slump.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 20, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with this.

He’s certainly struggling but I think sending him down does more harm than good to his confidence long term.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 20, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, his OPS is .540 right now, and he's hitting 50% of his balls on the ground

Not to mention, his defense hasn’t been great either.

The Mets simply can’t afford to keep giving him ABs.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 21, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i was thinking playoffs or bust

i would agree. but in this case, i think its better long term to just let him figure it out.

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 21, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

You view him as our catcher long term??? I don't.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on May 21, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least the next couple years

or at least a backup for awhile. who else?

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on May 21, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

i got it

we’ll trade Lastings Milledge, Phillip Humber, Aaron Heilman, Eddie Kunz and a PTBNL to the Giants for Buster Posey!! Win

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by astromets on May 21, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of them are old enough for Sabean's liking.

May have to throw Bay in there, too.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on May 21, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if he is either

but what else is there in the system to go to? Mike Nickeas is about the closest to ML ready and he’s likely a fringe backup at the best. Aside from him, Kai Gronauer is next on the depth chart and he’s only in AA and a bit behind a typical guy his age being from Germany. After that, there’s nothing.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is also Albert Cordero in Savanah

but he’s at least 2 years away.

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by Ogre39666 on May 21, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 years would be extremely optimistic

He’s 21 and currently struggling with the bat in the Sally. He’s likely 3-4 years away, if he ever actually capitalizes on his talent and makes it.

The point being, there’s nobody on the horizon this year or possibly even next year. I don’t see Gronauer being ready Opening Day 2012 and he’s likely not a starter at that point anyway.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man!

His OPS is .540? Can my Twins trade for him? He’d be an upgrade at catcher.

Right now we’ve got:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3411&position=C
And his backup:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3648&position=C

by Patrick42 on May 21, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yowza!

I never thought Butera would make it to the majors with his weak bat when the Mets dealt him for Castillo. I guess injuries, desperation and good enough defense gave him his shot. What’s the outlook on Mauer? Haven’t really been following his recovery.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhh

He’s getting back to baseball activities now, but the truth is that no one really knows, I think.

We love Butters over at TwinkieTown – He’s a regular star of some rather comic stories – but man, we really miss Joe.

by Patrick42 on May 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thole

I’ve been VERY patient, and still am, with Thole, because for a while he showed some progress with flashes of “possibilities.” However, he has FLATLINED the past 20+ games at LEAST, and to make things worse, he’s slipping into a liability on DEFENSE; anyone with 2 legs on 1st base practically gets a free pass to 2nd base!

But really, we’re getting greedy here… after the 5-13 start, do you think the team would only lose 9 more games before reaching .500 even WITHOUT Pagan, Davis, and Wright?

I’m just going to take it game by game, and hope that even in their losses, they show effort, and disappointment in defeat, rather than the shameful misery we as fans had to endure since late 2007… GO METS!

by sempermets on May 20, 2011 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

We are approaching the point of no return with Thole.

If he doesn’t turn it around soon, he’ll enter Luis Castillo Levels….

by BrockRocks on May 21, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

impossible

he doesn’t have the stigma of the drop or getting paid ridiculous money by omar

by jhMLB on May 21, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got to love...

…the excuses WFAN is making for the Yankees (IE the Mets didnt win, the Yankees gave it to them). Cant wait to see how ESPNs douchebags “report” it tomorrow

Mets, Jets, Devils, United Football League

by BlueChill on May 21, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Just watched Baseball Tonight

They called the high lights quite fairly, were kind to the Mets when appropriate, and even mocked Texiera’s BS home run!

SO glad to not be in the NY area during days like these… my fists can only handle so much idiocy before they get all “Punchy.”

by sempermets on May 21, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

If we were to extend K-Rod, would that nullify the vest?

Because despite the heart attacks and domestic stuff, he is a really good reliever and I have always liked the craziness of his motion and how worked up he gets.

Would paying 15-18 million over 2 years be better than the vest?

by Shevshevy on May 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

15-18 over the two years, as opposed to per?

He wouldn’t go for that; he can make more than $9 million a year on the open market.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on May 21, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

$9 million/year is not that far off of a figure for K-Rod

The relief pitching market is extremely good this offseason. Like, there are five or six above-average closers out there. Also, don’t ignore the fact that he still has off-the-field concerns.

Omar was paying for his “record-setting year,” and even then he threw Frankie way too much money. The market just wasn’t there for his services. I’m not sure it would be there this year.

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by MattT516 on May 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who else is available this winter?

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by BobbyV_Incognito on May 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heath Bell

Jonathan Broxton, Matt Capps , Francisco Cordero*, Joe Nathan, Jose Valverde, Jonathan Papelbon, Ryan Franklin, Michael Wuertz, Brad Lidge, Ryan Madson, Damaso Marte, LaTroy Hawkins.

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by Ogre39666 on May 21, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cordero has an option?

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by BobbyV_Incognito on May 21, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could agree to rip up the vest and

sign a new contract that works better for both sides. I remember that the Mets and Johan Santana ripped up the last year of his contract when he signed his extension with us after the trade, so I’m sure it could be done if both sides agree. It just depends on how much Frankie values the few extra million over the guaranteed years and how much he thinks he’s worth on the open market. And how much he wants to stay with the Mets, too.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could accept that

If it means tearing up the vest.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on May 21, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you guys sure they can rip of the vest?

i think the only reason johan’s contract was ripped up was so the mets could pay him MORE.

i think any extension discussions would have to start after the vesting year.

by jhMLB on May 21, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it's still just an option...it's not a guarantee.

I would think if they both agreed to something new, that vest could easily be ripped up, even if it was to give him less money in 2012. He’d still be getting more in terms of length and guaranteed money.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

And technically speaking

It would avoid a big distraction down the line for both sides. Frankie will likely be sent to a team as a setup man in a trade because of the vest. This would likely drive down his value as a closer in the offseason since he won’t finish the year in that role.

The Mets would likely have to eat tons of money just to get rid of his contract if they go that route, and we know their financial situation. Then, of course if they keep him they’d have the vest to worry about and possible interference from the players’ union if they play funny business.

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by MattT516 on May 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The vest

Give K-Rod a new 3-year, 39 mio $ deal and we´ll just forget about the vest.

As for this team, at this point, I don´t see us trading anyone in July.
In fact, once Ike Davis, Angel Pagan & David Wright return, we´ll have the tough lefty bat of Daniel Murphy on the bench where he can be the prime PH and certainly a tough enough out.
There´ll have to be some interesting roster decisions to be made.
I´m assuming Justin Turner is our fulltime 2bman again once Wright (assuming it´s not a matter of “if” Wright returns).
Who is the backup SS then with Tejada going down ?
Willie Harris ? Hu again ? Figueroa ? Hernandez ?

Does Scott Hairston stay over Nick Evans ?
Any chance that F-Mart stays up ?
Pridie certainly has earned the 4th OF spot behind Pagan with his solid play.

On the pitching staff, I currently don´t see any room for Bobby Parnell by the way.
K-Rod – Izzy – Beato – Buchholz have been great from the right side, O´Connor has been great and Byrdak has done much better too.
And Misch is a nice rubber arm for blowouts.

The best idea is to probably stand pat, enjoy an 85-win team this year that´s not quite good enough to reach the playoffs but will hang in the race within 4-5 games of the NL WC.

It´s more about continuing to re-build the organization from bottom up, create depth on the farm and a large talent base to have both trade bait & homegrown talent to use from 2012 on.

by Doob on May 21, 2011 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Poor Parnell

Consigned to Buffalo. These are all tiny samples, but Parnell (3.21) has a lower xFIP than Izzy (3.99), Beato (3.55) or K-Rod (3.32). Buchholz is at 3.04.

There doesn’t appear to be an urgent need, but Parnell is probably better than Izzy and Beato. Izzy did look filthy last night. That ump had a low strike zone it seemed to me, at least what little I watched. I noticed it more when the Mets were hitting against David Robertson.

by wobatus on May 21, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't just look at xFIP

I also look at ERA, tERA and FIP to try to find some statistical consensus:

ERA | tERA | FIP | xFIP | Pitcher
0.00 | 2.26 | 2.26 | 3.55 | Pedro Beato
1.66 | 3.37 | 4.06 | 3.04 | Taylor Buchholz
1.80 | 2.21 | 3.24 | 3.99 | Jason Isringhausen
6.14 | 4.84 | 5.50 | 3.21 | Bobby Parnell
0.76 | 2.57 | 2.45 | 3.32 | Francisco Rodriguez

So, is Parnell really better than Beato and Isringhausen? He is if you judge them with xFIP, but not if ERA, tERA or FIP is used.

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by Russ on May 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whichever way you look at it

Krod is having a HoF worthy season thus far. Those numbers are sick.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 7 inning

tERA and FIP can be skewed by a home run or one extra walk. Parnell’s velocity, swinging strike rate, zone percentage, contact percentage etc are completely in line with or better than last year. And similarly, he’s had a spate of bad luck in Buffalo with great peripherals. Not all of it is bad luck I suppose. Maybe he grooved some pitches and his fb rate is up, but his hr/fb rate is 25%. Given the small sample and the fact that everything seems to indicate he’s pitching about as well as last year, when the numbers were 2.85, 2.23, 2.24 era, fip and xfip, I think they overreacted to a tiny, finger-injury influenced sample. A seven inning sample isn’t much to conclude differently from what they thought coming into the season, that he’s one of the team’s best relievers, and certainly not enough to bury him in Buffalo for “command issues” due to 4 unintentional walks in 7 1/3rd. At least in Buff he only has 1 walk in 5 2/3rds, so if that’s their beef he seems to be dealing with it, unless they think he’s been wild in the zone or some such.

Nothing like success, however, and Beato is down to 3.31 xfip. He’s been pretty good but is due for some regression. Obviously, he won’t end the year with an era of zero. Unless he goes back on the DL today for good.

by wobatus on May 22, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love the Dickey face

Love the Dickey face

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, I actually slowed this down on my tivo he waxed lyrically;

“Suck my gigantic balls you herpe ridden Wankee scum!”

Or something poetic like that.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

About Izzy

got to say, I’ve felt for awhile that he’s been doing it with mirrors. This year’s Dessens if you will. But tonight, he looked legit. That full count cutter to Rodriguez was filthy. Also, it’d be nice if Bay showed up, just thought I’d request that while here.

by David G on May 21, 2011 3:59 AM EDT reply actions  

In the short term, this is something that worries me.

For the last week or two, we’ve been using Izzy and K-Rod alot. I know Buchholz had the elbow problem and that Beato just got back but it would be nice to get a couple of blowouts or even a few 4 run wins where we can use some of the rest of our bullpen. As great as Izzy has looked, I worry he’ll last all season long.

by Fmaxpont on May 21, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying but

at this point, I’ll take the wins however they come.

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by Steve Schreiber on May 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, that is too funny!

Rec’d for being blasphemous!

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was skeptical

but is it to early for You gotta believe

by bob c on May 21, 2011 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

a tad.

If we are still lingering around mid August then….go all in

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on May 21, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Man there is nothing worse than having your Dickey in a dry spot! Ouch!

The rain may have lubed things up, made dickey’s balls a little looser and knuckle more.

A loose Dickey, slamming Yankees is a happy Dickey.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on May 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

In other news...

Josh Johnson to the DL with shoulder inflammation

by santana9237 on May 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

good thing I didn't trade for him..heh

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by feslenraster on May 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamilton, Utley, Cruz, Bailey, and now Johnson.

And that’s just 1 of my 3 rosters. Amongst my others 2 teams I have Mauer (twice), Ike, Bailey (again), and Brian Roberts currently on the DL, have dropped McCarthy and Alex White due to being on the DL, and Grienke and Wilson seeing time as well.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on May 21, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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