Mets Who Reached Base Six Times in Six Plate Appearances
The Mets game last night stunk. They jumped out to an early lead, and fan-favorite R.A. Dickey coughed it up. They took the lead again, and a combination of Dickey and some poor defense coughed it up again. They could have easily won the game in the bottom of the ninth, but they failed, and the Giants won shortly thereafter.
Perhaps lost in the shuffle of see-saw lead changes and home runs by Ike Davis and Carlos Beltran was the fact that Jose Reyes reached base all six times he stepped up to the plate. With three hits - one double and two singles - and three walks, one of which was intentional, Reyes' game was only the 20th in team history in which a Met reached base six times (not including reaching base on an error). What's even more impressive is that this was only the 10th time a Met reached base six times in only six plate appearances. Here's a rundown of the previous nine times a Met has gone six-for-six in on-base awesomeness.
April 29, 2008: Jose Reyes - It's been over three years, but Reyes was the most recent Met to do what he did last night. The Mets defeated the Pirates 5-4 in eleven innings that night, and Reyes hit two singles and a triple and drew three walks, one of which was intentional.
May 27, 2000: Mike Piazza - In the Mets' 12-8 defeat of the Cardinals, Piazza singled, homered, and drew four unintentional walks. Though the Cardinals didn't make those walks deliberate, it's safe to assume they were pitching around Piazza all night, and they still got clobbered.
August 30, 1999: Edgardo Alfonzo - The Mets were in Houston and destroyed the Astros 17-1 thanks in large part to Fonzie's six-hit night. The six hits included three home runs, a double, and two singles, and of particular note is the fact that Alfonzo is the only player on this list who scored six runs in the game.
May 6, 1996: Todd Hundley - Another slugfest here, but the Mets lost this one to the Rockies 12-11. Hundley homered, singled, and drew four walks in the game.
August 8, 1995: Carl Everett - In a 12-10 victory over the Phillies, Everett singled, double, homered, and drew three walks. The Mets' starting pitcher in the game was Reid Cornelius, and if you know who he is, I applaud your comprehensive knowledge of Mets history.
June 6, 1994: Bobby Bonilla - A single, double, home run, and three walks made for a great day for Bonilla. The Mets beat up the Rockies that day, 11-3, and for an excellent overview of Bonilla's career with the Mets, check out Alex Nelson's fantastic post from the Top 50 Mets of All Time series.
May 18, 1978: Lenny Randle - We've hit our first major gap between these games as Randle's came over 16 years before Bonilla's. As for what he did that night: a single, a double, a triple, and three cycle-robbing walks. Randle scored five runs that night, second-highest on this list. And the Mets beat the Braves 8-7.
August 12, 1977: Lee Mazzilli - One of the rare losses for the Mets on this list as the Pirates edged them out 6-5 despite Mazzilli's efforts: one home run, three singles, and two walks.
May 11, 1969: Cleon Jones - The original Mr. OBP, Jones singled, tripled, and drew four walks, one of which was intentional, as the Mets beat the Astros 11-7 on the way to their first ever championship.
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Clearly, what Jose Reyes did at the plate last night was a rarity in Mets history. Any time a single player reaches base six times, it's highly likely that his team won the game, but it didn't turn out that way last night. Two final notes: Reyes is the only shortstop in team history to have done this, and he's also the only player to do so and steal a base during the game, which he did once in each game.
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In conclusion,
give him a new contract …
How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?
by Mets-Suns-Texans on May 4, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Jose Reyes has slipped ahead of Tulowitski
for the fWAR lead among NL shortstops. Also leads in OBP (.377) and SB (11). How’s that for a lead-off hitter?
Reyes is now leading all MLB shortstops in fWAR
And he’s on pace for his best season ever.
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he’s striking out less so far (a career best 8.7%) and he’s walking more than last year and more than his career avg (7.9%), though not at his 2007-2009 levels. Still, that’s good for a superb 11:11 K:BB ratio and he’s making a ton of contact. The only thing that looks weird here is that he actually has a career high 45.9% fly ball percentage compared to a career low 10.8% on LDs. He’s cut down a bit on the popups, however and 10.4% of his ground balls have been infield hits, the highest for him since 2005. All of this is also culminating in a very high .345 BABIP.
Now I know with his speed, he could probably have a higher BABIP than normal, but his career avg is .310. He is making a lot of contact so far this season but that low line drive drive coupled with the high fly ball rate scares me a bit (unless it’s just fangraphs getting confused on what constitutes an FB and what constitutes a LD). Perhaps when he hits those hard line drives deep into the gaps for extra bases, it doesn’t know how to quantify them?
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it is a bit of batted ball type confusion by fangraphs
Baseball-Ref has his LD% at 15 (still a little low), but that’s a big difference IMO.
Okay that's good to see.
It seems like he has been hitting a lot of line drives not only up the middle and through holes but into the gaps as well, so being at just 10.8% confused me. It probably is some sort of batted ball type confusion.
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Is .345 a high babip for a speedster.
I would actually think that’s a bit low, but that’s just my initial impression w/o any evidence to support it.
by Mike Clemente on May 4, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Its a decent amount Reyes' career average
Which I think is a far more accurate way of evaluating BABIP. Actually, there was just an article on FanGraphs about Speed vs BABIP and they showed little correlation. Though there is a lot of noise involved in that analysis.
Speed does play a slight factor, but if you look at the difference between the best and worst IFH% guys it really doesn’t add that many hits over the course of a year. Hitting the ball hard (high LD%) is generally a more accurate predictor of guys with high BABIP.
Like Balagast says
it mainly depends on the player. Reyes has a career .310 BABIP and has only had as high as a .320 BABIP in a single season (2006). .345 would be very high for him but it could also be due to the fact that he’s not K’ing as much and thus making more contact (hopefully more hard contact, which is what it seems to be just by the naked eye).
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
reyes has to stay a met
we need to show the FO trading him isnt an option.someone should run onto the field with a ‘dont trade reyes’ sign. that would be epic.
Not worth getting arrested for IMO
But someone else is more than welcome to :)
I'd get arrested for that
My problem is that getting to a game this year is proving difficult, with a kid on the way and starting a business. Getting Reyes a 7 year deal, totally worth the arrest and subsequent community service I would get given my lack of criminal record. I am not condoning it for others, but for me, worth it.
by CCE718 on May 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yes
if i somehow knew that running out on the field and getting beat up tasered arrested would mean jose was back with a new deal i’d be down there tonight and i ain’t kidding.
by Rob Castellano on May 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
After seeing Rob run on the field, Sandy turns to Ricciardi and D3PO and says:
Sandy: “Hey look at this idiot running on the field…what does that sign say?”
D3PO: "I think it says “Re-sign Jose Reyes.”
Sandy: “LOLOLOLOL look at this guy get beat up by our fine Citi Field security team! LOLOLOL well I’ve been entertained and convinced tonight by this numbskull. Get me my cell phone and get Jose’s agent on the line…tell him we’ll give him whatever contract he wants.”
Even though Rob spends the night in a jail cell in the bowels of Citi Field, he saves the day as Jose Reyes agrees to a 60 year deal worth $777 million.
D’oh!
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
But still would consider doing it just for the chance that Jose might be re-signed as a result of the manuever.
i think it would send a strong message
since you would be doing it for a real purpose, unlike others that just run onto the field. also Reyes might appreciate the gesture and even bail you out personally!
That would be cool
If Reyes bailed someone out like that. Wonder if he would give that person their own personal “high-five”.
I'm going to punch myself in the face if Reyes is traded.
Probably someone else too.
Dear Sandy,
Please do not trade Jose Reyes to the Giants, unless they offer you Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain AND Buster Posey.
Thank you.
CharlieH
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by CharlieH on May 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In which case,
much as I hate to say it, please trade Jose Reyes to the Giants.
by JoshNY on May 4, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For those three
you can throw in Thole and Dickey too. That’d be an insane haul (albeit not very likely).
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Excuse me...
not at all likely.
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
it is sabean we're talking about though.
by Mike Clemente on May 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
Not very likely (but possible).
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Its obvious
That Reyes must be resigned, there is no question to this. There is no active shortstop that can replace Reyes at this time. Alderson needs to do the opposite of what the media tells them. Hell Im somewhat thinking that Beltran shouldnt be traded either but who knows.
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I'd trade Beltran.
It kills me to do it because I love watching the guy play but he’s 34 and with those balky knees, who knows how much time he has left. He’s not the future for us anymore and we can’t get draft picks for him when he leaves as a free agent anyway. If he were interested in a one year deal for next year, I’d certainly consider that but with Boras as his agent, I would imagine that he tries to get one more multi year deal (2-3 years perhaps with an AL team).
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by Steve Schreiber on May 4, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta trade Tron unfortunately. he'll be missed though
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd trade Tron
His trade value is now climbing. At 34, and with bad knees, that trade value will only stay up for so long.
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also we need to trade him before the deadline
if we wait, it’s going to reduce his value
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I would only trade him for a pretty solid return
If we’re getting mid-tier prospects in return, then screw it, offer him arb next year and take the picks
by Mike Clemente on May 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i think I just remembered we can't offer him arbitration.
Lame.
by Mike Clemente on May 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
correct, thats why the sooner the better as far as trades go unfortunately
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
just weird stat along looking at this, 5 times it happened in May and 3 in August
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WE MUST TRAID REY ASS!!
In all honesty Sandy PLEASE FUCKING SIGN HIM
by SFloridaMetsFan on May 4, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
I feel the same way
I also feel like I am watching a car crash in slow mo. This Reyes trade talk is moving forward with the persistence of a steam roller, and it is making me sick to my stomach.
by Coolpapabell on May 4, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
lets just hope if it happens
We get the Sabean bonus, and at least get our moneys worth out of him. That said, please keep him.
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
But I am hearing Zach Wheeler and Sanchez.. I can’t say that excites me much. It would be nice, but how in the world do we get more than 2War production from the SS position in the next three years.
Conversely, We have about three plausible 3rd base prospects at thrid. I am 98% sure wright won’t get traded.
by Coolpapabell on May 4, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe we can sweeten the pot with someone like Lutz and see if we can't get something better than Sanchez
who i’m not a fan of. Wheeler could be nasty, but I worry about injuries with him.
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose
I’ve gone from thinking 5/$75 more towards 5/$90 with maybe an option year too. It’s just crazy to imagine the Mets without him now.
if we can get him for 5 I'll be quite happy, i just worry with the megalong deals getting handed out these days
he’s going to look for more
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that it will be at least 6 years
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yeah me too
I’d be very happy with 5 though
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
Obviously there’s a great deal of security with a long (more than 5 years) contract, but he’s only 27. So he can then get another, even bigger contract at the expiration of the one he’ll get this off-season. If he goes too long-term this deal he would be in his mid-30s when that contract expires. Long story short, it might be in his best interests to go for a contract that doesn’t exceed five years. Then again, I’m not an agent and perhaps it still works out best for him to try to get the 7-year deal.
I they usually take the guaranteed money over the potential money later
but I could be wrong. Just a gut feeling.
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by KeithsMoustache on May 4, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Other side of coin
If trading Reyes is inevitable than Alderson must get starting pitching for him. Citi field is built for pitching, thats how the Giants won the WS if they do trade him that is the only thing Alderson should take if not the trade has failed however I am confident that Reyes will be resigned, a new minority owner will be selected this month.
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My thinking is
Do they really need a pitcher when Citi field is supposed to forgive mediocre pitching, I mean, the opponents pitching.
It seems to me that any team that wants to be good needs pitching, but I think that really has no extra connection with our ballpark. Converesly, hitting from the SS position is a pretty rare commodity too.
Pitching and hitting
there’s no reason you can’t get a pitching and hitting prospect if they do trade him. Pitchers aren’t as sure a thing as everyday players, and they need more depth at everyday positions. Having said that, DON"T TRADE REYES.
It makes me sick.
When Reyes has an awesome game but the Mets lose, the “Trade Reyes” camp gets louder and louder.
To all those who are currently on the 25-man roster of the New York Mets:
Can you please go on a 15-game winning streak so we can put to rest this terrible idea of trading Jose Reyes?
Thanks,
Every Met fan in the Tri-State Area.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
Trade talk
Its all media hype, the media hates the Mets and knows Reyes is one of the few dynamic players the team has. They know trading him will send the team into further irrelevancy.
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