Thou Shalt Not Speaketh of The Trades
by Bobby Baseball on May 7, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
Email
Print
Who else is sick and tired of hearing trade rumors of Mets players? I cannot stand it when people say that the Mets will not be able to afford Jose Reyes. This place is turning into Posting and Tosting right before the Knicks got Carmelo. The Mets actually are still playing and I would like to focus on the players we do have. If you want to talk trades, do that in the offseason and then you may resume talks in July. But for now, this is why it is absolutely ridiculous for any of this conversation.
Trade "Candidate" #1: Jose Reyes. I am absolutely shocked at how many rumors there are of trading him. First off, to anyone who says the Mets will not be able to afford to resign him, Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan wrote a fantastic piece about the Mets finances. He concluded that after arbitration increases and payroll cuts, the Mets will stay have over $30 million coming off the books for next season and that will be more than enough to sign Jose Reyes and sign some other role players. Jose Reyes is easily in the top 5 shortstops in all of baseball and probably in the top 3 right behind Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki. As of right now, Reyes leads all Major League shortstops with a 1.7 WAR, which is good for 7th overall for any position. Since 2008, Reyes has been fifth in WAR among shortstops, only behind Hanley, Tulo, and Jeter and Rollins who are both on the decline. Jose Reyes is easily the third best shortstop in baseball and even though he will be paid as such, the Mets are able to pay him that. It can also be said that Reyes is the best leadoff man in baseball as well as a terrific sparkplug, which is really invaluable in baseball.
Trade "Candidate" #2: David Wright. I am completely appalled that people even think that trading David Wright is a logical move for the Mets. We are talking the franchise player for a team that is a second baseman, a solid bullpen and a healthy Johan Santana away from making the playoffs. If the Mets were a team like the Pirates or the Royals who have no hope and have to rebuild, then trading the franchise player is fine. But the Mets honestly are a team that is just a few pieces away from making the playoffs. About two weeks ago, I asked the readers of Amazin' Avenue if you thought the Mets were a playoff team. Almost half of you said yes. Since 2008, David Wright has ranked third, fourth if you are counting Kevin Youkilis, among all Major League 3rd baseman in WAR. And keep in mind his career year was in 2007, so that isn't even being counted. David Wright is still only 28 years old, and he is locked up on an affordable contract for a few more years. There is absolutely no understandable logic to me that would support trading David Wright.
Trade "Candidate" #3: Carlos Beltran. Of the "Big 3", Beltran is the only one that I would consider trading. Whereas Reyes and Wright do not have any apparent successors, the Mets have outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis raking at AAA, and if Jason Pridie keeps playing well then then the Mets will have an outfield logjam once Angel Pagan comes back. At 34 years old, Beltran may leave as a free agent in order to either join a better ballclub to make the playoffs, or to sign his last possibly big contract. It would make some sense for the Mets to try and get some value out of him instead of letting him walk for nothing, except the possible draft pick compensation if he is a Type A or B free agent, as he is likely to be. If the Mets are out of contention around the break, there isn't much use in keeping him around, as they will look to get younger for the future and probably wouldn't resign Beltran anyway. However, this is the thing. IF THE METS ARE OUT OF CONTENTION AT THE BREAK. Key words being "at the break". It is way too early to give up on the season, and therefore it is way to early to consider trading away anyone.
Case in point: Everyone shut up about trades, it is annoying and stupid and there isn't much point in trading anyone. This goes to all you baseball journalists working for the big newspapers and corporations. It is just May, the weather is beautiful, and baseball is finally in full swing. Watch the game and enjoy it.
This FanPost was contributed by a member of the community and was not subject to any vetting or approval process. It does not necessarily reflect the opinions, reasoning skills, or attention to grammar and usage rules held by the editors of this site.
266 comments
|
27 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Rec'd...my strongest ever
this is probably the best, straight to the point, and realistic post ive read. and that’s saying something, because aa is fantastic. maybe its because i just came from mlbtraderumors, where the newest hack of the national sportswriters spreads some self-produced speculation that is bound to get readers because its an outrageous proposal that a rational person would never make.
Kudos to you sir
Excellent cost-benefit analysis on all three. Venting at the MSM sounds so much better when presented articulately and backed up by facts. Well done.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on May 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions
Just a comment...
Great post. The only thing is to remember that Carlos Beltran cannot be offered arbitration by the Mets or whichever team he ends up with, thus affecting his value to the Mets since you can’t get draft picks if he walks as a free agent.
I hate to do it but its the smart play to deal him unless the Mets are legitimately in a playoff race. You want to get something for him since he’s got positive value on the field.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 7, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well said and rec'd
The people who propose these trades should read my signature.
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Even with the Mets being able to offer Reyes a fair contract,considering the
Wilponzes financial situation,why would he resign here if he could get more money and play for a contender.Mets won’t be spending money on free agents and will find it hard to resign their own.Draft signings will also be affected.This should not be permanent but the next 5 years I don’t think anyone knows what the F….K is gonna happen.
Maybe but he'd be expected to say that.Follow the money!
by Putnan Prince on May 7, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He could have just as easily have said something like
“I’ll cross that bridge when I get there” or “I’m just trying to concentrate on the season”.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
He went to an Islanders game, for god's sake!
If that doesn’t show his love and commitment to NY, I don’t know what does!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 7, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Has been spotted at a NY liberty game and likes the Knicks.He's ours!
by Putnan Prince on May 7, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The Liberty still exist?
Huh.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 8, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be fair to expect Jose to go to a Liberty game
when nobody else does, either.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 8, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
All the more reason to move and hop.e they don't follow.
by Putnan Prince on May 10, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw Reyes out Christmas shopping with his extended family/countrymen before he signed his second contract. He was just like Reyes on the field, bouncing around and joking. Then he went to the garage and they got into a old white Dodge Caravan with tints. Reyes got in the back. He was wearing a diamondz embroided dragon pattern shirt and hat.
/true story
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
Why the ranting and raving, Bobby?
“If you want to talk trades, do that in the offseason and then you may resume talks in July. But for now, this is why it is absolutely ridiculous for any of this conversation.”
I was hoping you weren’t being serious, but apparently you were. You’re upset about something and rather than ignore it, which you could easily do, you throw a verbal tantrum, insult people who believe differently than you, and insist that everyone else make YOU okay by not talking about the thing that upsets you. It’s the mark of a child, and a badly behaved one at that.
How old are you, by the way?
It's not like he just says "don't talk about it because it makes my tummy hurt" and characterizing it as such is equally "childish".
He gave actually reasons why trading Reyes or Wright is a stupid idea and why Beltran is the only realistic trade candidate, unlike the MSM who writes unsubstantiated opinions that aren’t based in fact – and then rewrites them and rewrites them as if it will give them any validity.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In fact, shouldn't we be praising him for not being a coward, and standing up to the MSM that is obviously doing it's part to ensure that the Mets are run in the ground?
I think so. We shouldn’t endorse cowardice, right Ogre?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 8, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
Especially when their own employees don’t have the courage to do so themselves.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Oh. You again.
If I said the sun was hot you’d bicker.
There you go again with your accusatory straw-man arguments.
When you call someone childish, and their writing is anything but, I will disagree. Or am I supposed to be a coward and not speak out against such things? Is the piece Pulitzer Prize worthy? No, of course not. But considering his age and that he is addressing the MSM, not posters here, it’s very good – and certainly better than what the MSM is churning out.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 8, 2011 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
If anybody is coming off as childish in these threads, it's you
You don’t like the fact that not everybody is as pessimistic and down on this team as you, so you throw little hissy fits anytime dare disagree with any of your assessments.
by dcmetsfan on May 8, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The thing is that you'd say
that the sun was purple and then laugh at everybody for rightfully saying that it’s yellow. Please do us a favor and grow up a bit.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 8, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Seriously, are you a combination of ThankGoodnessForHowieRose and lupojohn3 rolled into one?
You’re definitely making a good case for that. Get off your high horse and lighten up a little bit. And stop acting like you don’t know why people generally disagree with you. (oops, I started a sentence with a conjunctionary phrase – I guess I too am childish.)
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Who plays with MS Paint?
Children.
Kicking knowledge in the face.
by BlackOps on May 9, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What happened ThankGoodnessforhowierose?
Haven’t seen him since he questioned Sam Page’s writing credentials well over a month ago. I’m assuming the hammer came down on him.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And hard too
I assume.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
You missed out on a good one.
Here’s the link…it’s from March 30th. This was Sam’s post on his take on the division race before the season began. I linked to TGFHR’s comment that started the whole thing, but the argument bleeds upwards a little as well.
It gets really good down further when Sam finally responds to his comments and TGFHR attacks Sam further.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sheesh
one thread led me to another thread and then another – i hadn’t read comments much during school, and i am glad. but that one about sam was so pointless. people on this site disagree a ton, and we make a ton of jokes, and rip on what people say when dumb – why do people think they are being attacking personally? i never felt that and been corrected on here too many times to remember (plus i was usually drinking, so cant)
I LIKE IKE!
This is cyber bullying. I'm calling my local police station.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
BTW I'm only 9 years old isn't my writing and grammar (and photoshopping) impeccable for a 9 year old?
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Bobby is 13
and this FanPost is incredibly eloquent and insightful for a 13-year-old.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 8, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
It's actually pretty silly. Why do you want to encourage a kid to tell other people what they can
and can’t talk about? There’s some talent here, but there’s also the emotional immaturity characteristic of thirteen year olds.
I realize you both are either missing the point on purpose in order to carry on, or simply don’t read well (and that it’s 99% your reply to this is going to be on the order of “nyah, nyah, nyah”), but why not encourage Bobby to write a stronger piece, instead of attacking strawmen or simply sounding childish? Help him. Don’t indulge him. If you think he has real talent I’d think the last thing you’d want to do is encourage in him the worst characteristics of bad sportswriting.
As for , “Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan wrote a fantastic piece about the Mets finances”, sorry, but no. It was rudimentary at best, and ignored most of the relevant factors. BDMF, on the chance that you’re genuinely interested, go to BaseballThinkFactory and look at the threads on the Wilpons’ financial situation as it relates to payroll. I’m not trying to embarrass you, but your work was poorly thought through, and made no new points. If you’re genuinely interested in the subject you’ll do well to read what other writers have written and build from their work.
Bobby—when you’re genuinely interested in testing your ideas against a tough audience that’s up there with the most knowledgeable in baseball, I hope you’ll post at BaseballThinkFactory.org.
If you want a sense of what I’m talking about, try posting your first paragraph there, in one of the current threads on the subject of trades and the Mets, then deal with the replies. You’ll learn a lot.
When you get the chance, work on cleaning up sentences such as, “There is absolutely no understandable logic to me that would support trading David Wright.” Do you mean that you can’t understand, or would decline to understand the logic, or instead that it is impossible to mount a logical argument for trading David Wright ( because of course there are several good arguments for trading Wright.)? You might not like any of them (and that’s perfectly understandable), but they surely exist. At any rate, sentences like that need work.
Keep writing.
by Brian Singer on May 8, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So you're going to hold a 13 year old to the standards of "the most knowledgeable [people] in baseball"?
That makes sense.
And then there’s this:
There’s some talent here, but there’s also the emotional immaturity characteristic of thirteen year oldWell yeah, because he’s 13 years old…
Oh, and as a tip, when you get the chance, work on cleaning up sentences such as
I realize you both are either missing the point on purpose in order to carry on, or simply don’t read well (and that it’s 99% your reply to this is going to be on the order of "nyah, nyah, nyah") […]
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 8, 2011 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't mind criticiscm, except it seems as if nobody agrees with you and you present your criticism like a douche instead of like a teacher
Anyway, you can’t claim that my piece is written completely on emotional immaturity. I didn’t just rant and cry and whine. I backed it up with statistics and whatnot and obviously many people think that it is a worthwhile piece (why else would I get 11 recs).
I am not trying to be a professional sportswriter. To me, writing is not an art, just a form of communication. I am not trying to emulate the style of professional sportswriters. I have my own writing style. I am brief and to the point, I am not getting paid by the word or by the page. I am just writing on AA for fun because I want to post my opinion and see if people agree with me. You are entitled to your own opinion, but obviously most people here agree with me.
As for the bit about BDMF, I don’t really care what you think about the article. The reason I posted it was to back up my argument, and because it has some good information that I didn’t include in mine. Whether or not you agree that it is a fantastic piece is beside the point. So I gave him a compliment. Big deal. Judging by the number of recs his piece got, most people would obviously agree with me again.
So you are entitled to think what you want to think, and so is everyone else. But for now, it seems like you are in the minority.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on May 8, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
He IS the minority.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 8, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
my two sons are in serious relationships and moving out of my basement
can I adopt you ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on May 9, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sure
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on May 9, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
So you’re saying that you don’t live in the basement, fx? Or do you live in a basement that is above your sons sub-basement?
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
His whole house is a basement.
He lives in a decommissioned missile silo.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
In disbelief
While reading the post, I would have never thought that the author was a 13 year old! Bobby, excellent work. Pay no attention to the negative feedback. In college, I used to assist researchers, proofing some of their work, and at the young age of 13, you already have some of them beat. I used to teach as well, and if I had a 13 year old student bring me something written to this quality, probably would have promoted the student to the next grade immediately. Keep up the good work. Brian, seriously, you are really going to tear a 13 year old apart? This is an open forum. You don’t like it? Don’t read it. Free will. I, however, thoroughly enjoy the differing pieces that the community here offers. I do not agree with something, I try to find a more tactful way of producing my counter-points. I am not a statistics kind of guy and a lot of folks here have been patient with that fact, although I am learning and growing to accept advanced stats. My point is that you need to grow some patience and become more open to other thoughts and ideas. Don’t tell young Bobby to post somewhere else. He is a member and has the right to post what he wants.
by CCE718 on May 8, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Wow. I'm 47, but I'll say it, and risk sounding childish.
STFU, you sanctimonious bag of wind.
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
by CTRefJay on May 8, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
There
I used a word incorrectly. Now bite me.
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
by CTRefJay on May 8, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
yeah, bad use of the work "wind"
shame on you
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on May 9, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
ba-dum-bah!
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
by CTRefJay on May 9, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
God, I love this site
More than only just the fact that the content is wittingly depicted, or framed, even.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My god, you sound like a huge jackass here.
Do you ever have anything complimentary to say to anyone here, or do we not meet your impossibly high standards?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 8, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Seconded
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
100th'd
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brian Singer
I don’t know you but I don’t like you.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
by GreenBeer on May 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Says the person who thinks the Mets do not have the finances availible to sign amateur draftees overslot
You’ll have to excuse me if I ignore your take of the Mets’ finances.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 8, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
You’re an asshole.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on May 8, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is the best 3 word phrase in this part of the comments section
Rec’d for pointed truth
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah...
Bobby—when you’re genuinely interested in testing your ideas against a tough audience that’s up there with the most knowledgeable in baseball, I hope you’ll post at BaseballThinkFactory.org.
Thanks for dissing us, assclown. I mean really? Sorry, but the quote above just shows me the douche level that we’re involved with here. If you really think we’re not a “tough audience” or if you really don’t like our opinions or take them with even a grain of salt, then why do you come here? No offense to Baseball Think Factory but if they’re so great, why don’t you just stay there? Our opinions are obviously not up to your high standards.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out (oh wait….nevermind, please do).
And to Bobby—keep doing what you’re doing. Your points are valid and your opinions are certainly within reason. You have a great writing style for somebody your age, along with plenty of knowledge.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 8, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I imagine somewhere between douchenozzle and douchelord.
At least I'm mature.
Kicking knowledge in the face.
by BlackOps on May 8, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You said what I should have said
I would rec this comment twice if I could.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i would have never thought you were 13, bobby
i have a brother who is 13 and he can’t write nearly as well as you. as for you mr. singer, i find it weird that a site you seem to love refers to you readers as primates. i guess you love being called a monkey so here it goes: you are a monkey.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by rexthejet on May 10, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Technically speaking
humans are of the primate order.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 10, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there was a picture of a ape
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by rexthejet on May 11, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well then, not to be a dick
apes aren’t monkeys.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 11, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i wasn't thinking realy
they are both primates though.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by rexthejet on May 11, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey!
I ain't no monkey!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 12, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Self-promotion, or promotion of any kind?
Bobby—when you’re genuinely interested in testing your ideas against a tough audience that’s up there with the most knowledgeable in baseball, I hope you’ll post at BaseballThinkFactory.org.
I was 13 (14, rather, as Bobby is 14 now) once, and looking back, my writing skills were not as good then as Bobby’s are now. Don’t you think that he will naturally progress as a more accomplished writer, as he gets older? For everyone who stays in high school, and preferably goes to college, this is a natural process. We can all testify to that.
Now that I think about it, you are a perfect parallel to the MSM, in correlation to Amazin’ Avenue. When we need incessant chatter and pointless debates*, we’ll call you.
* MetsBlog is still looking for new members – why not join them!?
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
x
(Click image to embiggen)
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Frankly
You’ve been a bit of a let-down since showing early promise with The Usual Suspects.
by deadspy3 on May 9, 2011 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Usual Suspects is pretty terrible
a plot twist gimmick does not equate to a fine film.
by secret defense on May 16, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pot meet kettle
It was rudimentary at best, and ignored most of the relevant factors.
That just about describes every thing that you’ve posted on the issue of the Mets finances.
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
by Russ on May 9, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Are you Shane Victorino?
Come on out, don’t hide.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bobby's post reads better than anything my boss could write.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on May 9, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And a few that I've had.
FYI, few things irritate a boss more than correcting their grammar.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which I make part of my daily routine
all part of my charm
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
by CTRefJay on May 9, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I realize I'm late, but goddamnit your a dick
Are you Jack Str with another name? Because this is exactly the type of smug, self serving condescension he used in every post.
If you’re purpose is just to shit on everyone else’s opinions, why post here?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
by Syler on May 9, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh and I doubt Bobby would get any rebuttal over there
considering no one even posts on your glorious website anymore.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
by Syler on May 9, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
14, actually
based on the date of this post. But very impressive, nonetheless. I’m almost jealous, to be quite honest. He may be the next Sam Page. He may be the future of AA, when Cannonlazer, Eric and Sam go into retirement.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Drive a stake in us, huh?
If you’re like most of us, you watch sports news on an everyday or every other day basis. And, Bobby Baseball does have a point. While the MSM is working up quite a storm over trades, but particularly Reyes, how do we react to these bombardments? And, why be so condescending, most of all? That really turns me off.
I was hoping you weren’t being serious, but apparently you were… [You] insist that everyone else make YOU okay by not talking about the thing that upsets you. It’s the mark of a child, and a badly behaved one at that.
How old are you, by the way?
There’s nothing wrong with extroverted expression, especially one supported by facts and valid opinions. This site is not The New York Times. It’s a fan site dedicated to delivering content from the fans’ perspectives, while supporting arguments with cold hard facts and info from mostly reliable sources.
At least answer this question, for our sake: Why do you always (or regularly) seem to express contrarian viewpoints and antagonistic candor? Does it make you feel important or special to disagree with everyone, or the general consensus? If so (and I’m not saying you are), it’s better to believe what you truly believe, than make great strides to act in a manner consistent with being “non-conformist”.
(Click image to embiggen)
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
would that be a rib-eye stake ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on May 9, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only if you agree to drink a shot, per the drinking game
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
That one
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 17, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Way to be a douche nozzle Brian.
Bagging on a 13 year old then promoting another site. You’re an idiot and should stay on your other site and be a jack wagon there.
by SFloridaMetsFan on May 8, 2011 9:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Oh ueah
Great piece Bobby B!
by SFloridaMetsFan on May 8, 2011 9:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Reply fail rec.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 8, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"...a team that is a second baseman, a solid bullpen and a healthy Johan Santana away from making the playoffs."
Hmm, no. We need to get rid of Pelfrey and to add 2 more solid arms to the rotation as well as this.
I don’t think there will be many 2b out there who we can plug in to replace Murphy. He is at least solid if not spectacular and he gets the job done.
Trade Beltran, yup
Trade Wright and Jose…no way
_______________________________________________
$100 to CARE per No-No and $1 per David Wright Homer.
by ScottfromPeekskill on May 8, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
No, he's right
We’re a 80+/- win team as things are right now. A healthy Johan, a few more wins closer.
We need tweaks to get to that 85-90 win wildcard territory, not bombs.
Trading Pelfrey, making ourselves weaker, and selling low. There’s no need to trade him, and since we wouldn’t be getting as good a return as we could, no reason to.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 8, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I honestly hope
that Sandy reads AA, and recognizes the opinion of the educated and enlightened portion of the fanbase. I mean, he probably thinks like the average reader of AA because hes a smart guy, but still, it can only help if he gets any bright ideas from our posts.
Sandy Alderson = lohaus#54 (lohaus#54)
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 9, 2011 2:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course!
Duh! It makes sense now!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 9, 2011 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
how did he do that!!!???
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brian Singer Perfect Post
To be or not to be, that is-eth the question? Shall Reyes be a New Yorkian Metropolitan, or not? To tradeth but, Nyah! Hark, hark, harkened he! Behold, the Mets doth have talents. And for another yeah? Sucketh thy Shakespeare penisth. For this is the internets. And we speaketh as we do or do not!
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
by GreenBeer on May 9, 2011 5:19 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
You mean the interneths?
Point received, though
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Inconceivable! I was clearly making a play at my favorite Bush-ism. [Thats not a politically negative or positive comment, as he was actually correct in his plurality, since there are two internets – public and science. Its my favorite Bush-ism since no one gets hurt.]
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
Oh, I didn't know Bush came up with "the internets" phrase that became popular
Hell, this thing alone has its own Wikipedia page!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
In the future
we’ll all have our own Wikipedia page on the interwebs
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
We are talking the franchise player for a team that is a second baseman, a solid bullpen and a healthy Johan Santana away from making the playoffs.
uh… and a couple of starters, and a Jason Bay that doesn’t stink… yea, five-seven some-odd players don’t just fall into your lap like that.
If the Mets were a team like the Pirates or the Royals who have no hope and have to rebuild, then trading the franchise player is fine. But the Mets honestly are a team that is just a few pieces away from making the playoffs.
The Royals are actually looking at a very promising future. All their young players are about to make the leap into MLB from AAA and make serious contributions. Our best prospects are Mejia (on the DL) and Niewenhuis, who doesn’t help most of the need positions. They’re playing above .500 ball and are in a weak division. We’ve got the Phillies, Braves and a pair of other teams that aren’t just going to lay down and die.
About two weeks ago, I asked the readers of Amazin’ Avenue if you thought the Mets were a playoff team. Almost half of you said yes.
Almost half of the respondents to that poll are clinically insane. Lets put it this way… say the Mets win 75 games this year. Alderson keeps the core, trades Beltran for an AAA guy and we improve 10 games. Fuck it, we win 88 next year. 88 games might not even get you into the playoffs in the NL east unless they go ahead and expand the playoffs. Not this year, next year or maybe even the year after that. We’re in a HARD division, and it might be time to plan for a future where the other teams aren’t stocking three Cy Young winners and instead we’re the team with the young talent and bright future.
None of this is even considering what happens if the Wilpons really are fucked money wise and literally can’t do anything next year but cut payroll down to Bay, Wright, Santana and a bunch of no-money young dudes. No one knows yet how that’s going to play out.
In conclusion, it’s great to be an optimist, but don’t get pissed when people with less of a silver-lining than you speak about possibilities.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
Good of Brian Singer to adopt a new screen name
Sorry if I confuse you with him when you say things like this:
Almost half of the respondents to that poll are clinically insane
Another possibility is that the readers of this blog just don’t swallow the MSM-tripe about this team and recognize that they are a team that has holes but is also much better than what people think. Their offense is actually pretty good and is not weighted down by black holes as in recent years. Their starting pitching is indeed iffy, to put it mildly, and will be the thing that most likely keeps the team from competing seriously.
Is this is a 90-win team? Almost certainly not. But is this is a 90-loss team? Even more certainly not. This is an 80-85 win team that is indeed a few players short of being on par with the Phillies and Braves, but they are not in need of wholesale roster revisions in order to become truly competitive.
by dcmetsfan on May 9, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
When the 1978 Yankees were 14 GB in the heat of the summer (on July 19th),
the MSM said they were pretty much out of it, and look what happened – they won the World Series that year! Now, I’m not comparing the 2011 Mets to that team (and the ‘78 Yankees were a better team), but my point here is to take an example from a historical point of view, as to why one should never say never. (Unless maybe, if you’re a Pirates fan.)
Granted, we have the intimidating Phillies and energized Braves to contend with, but if one takes into perspective, the potential that is there, it becomes easier to understand the argument. Also, it’s just plain wrong to confuse fandom with clinical insanity like that. I don’t take such language lightly – it’s possible for one of those sports pundits on TV to get into some kind of trouble if they used that kind of language in one of those debate shows, like that. Heck, I don’t even think Chris Carlin would go there. He may call the comment insane, but not the people who make them.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
This was in response to Brian Singer (aka ThankGoodnessForHowieRose + lupojohn3)
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
And this one guy
skater242
LeeMazzilli
Joseph S
Bernie Madoff
FredWilponzi
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
This is an 80-85 win team that is indeed a few players short of being on par with the Phillies and Braves, but they are not in need of wholesale roster revisions in order to become truly competitive.
Maybe.
If you think that the 2011 Mets are going to SNIFF the playoffs without a meteor landing on either the Phillies or Braves, then you are about the most optimistic human being I’ve ever met. The more probable scenario is that they are fighting tooth and nail with Washington and Florida for 3rd while barely being within waving distance of the wild card or the Braves.
To be honest this constant harping on the MSM reminds me of both hipsters and tea partiers. This suspension of disbelief or instant confrontation with anything the “big boys” have to say is just stupid. Like everything else in life, sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong. Pretending that they’re never right is just delusional in your own way.
Getting back to the topic at hand… are they better than what a lot of people say? Maybe. It’s a team with a lot of holes on the mound, almost no bench, a dud in left and questions at other spots. It’s a team with a mediocre farm system and one that isn’t offering a whole lot of relief in the areas we need it most. It’s a team where we have NO IDEA how bad the money situation is going to play out. In short, there’s a lot greater chance that this team could go 70-90 than 90-70. I don’t think they do either, but considering their best series win is a 2/3 against Florida on opening weekend and we’ve finished 11 series, there really is a good chance this team is NOT as good as YOU think it is.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Please use subject lines
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
by Russ on May 9, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leave it to Russ, Colonel of the Subject Line Forces.
+1 for your persistant effort and maybe-one-day-attainable goal.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
no. only when i post a pic will i ensure i use one.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
mind pointing me to the rules page then?
since I actually looked and didn’t see one.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The first line is a subject line. This can be a summary of your comment, an intro to your comment, or anything really. It is not required, but the style on RR is to use the subject line so that we can more cleanly see the breaks between comments.
It is not required
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
But highly, highly recommended.
Really the only reason to not use them after being asked to and given reasons why they are better, is just to be stubborn or contrarily. It’s there use it. Even if it’s just a period.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
but not a rule...
big difference. i appreciate that you showed me where to look for the guide, but if i leave out a subject line because i’m having a conversation, it isn’t a knock on you or anyone else. i literally didn’t feel like it. same thing with sometimes using capitals or not.
if it isn’t a rule, but merely preference, then sorry, if i miss a subject line, i don’t need people whining about it unless there’s a pic or something that would actually cause the site to be slower in loading.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If you miss one here or there
of course, no big deal. If you constantly do it even when people ask, then that seems wrong.
And subject lines help with more than just pictures. They allow for better cataloging and searching.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Seriously...
…I have never given a thought to subject lines. I think I use them 50% of the time. What do you mean by cataloging and searching?
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
There is a search feature on AA.
Using subject lines makes it easier to find things when you use it.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Yeah, I use the search bar all the time
It bugs me when I can’t find things because there are no subject lines.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
There's no rule that says don't piss into a window fan, either
but if someone politely asks you to refrain, the more thoughtful among us would comply. Minus the snark, we here at AA appreciate the use of subject lines. Thank you, and drive safely.
"Dickey is my starter. I shall not want." - Dickey [43:1]
by CTRefJay on May 9, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you know what happens when people don't follow The Unwritten Rules (coughselfpromotioncough)?
Someone ends up saying “that thing that shall never be spoken in a gamethread” or worse.
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
that happens all the time anyway
I LIKE IKE!
why thank you
I ctrl-f’d “rule” and “faq”, but missed that. However, there’s nothing in there about using a subject line. There’s a link to the Mariner’s blog, but that specifically mentions pics and other imbeds
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not just for pics: Some of us don't want to look at your posts.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that seems very whiny
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you should try reading it with a more stern, serious tone.
Because I really don’t (and I’m sure many others would agree) want to read your posts.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
has nothing to do with a tone of voice
if people are that sensitive that they can’t take a polite disagreement with optimism, then perhaps posting in a public forum is not for them.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I respect your posts.
I just don’t want to read them.
Hence, use a subject line so I don’t have.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
still waiting
for someone to post a link to this rules page so i don’t violate any other unknown rules
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Rule 11 of The Unwritten Rules of AA
Excuse my self promotion.
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
dont think of it as a rule
just a polite request from the members around here. It makes the threads easier to read (at least IMO). It’s not really much of an imposition, is it?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on May 9, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t the sig line be more helpful than the subject line in determining who is making a post?
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
then press z and be on with it?
most posts arent long, scrolling past them is easy, but thats just me
I LIKE IKE!
Sigh
If you think that the 2011 Mets are going to SNIFF the playoffs without a meteor landing on either the Phillies or Braves, then you are about the most optimistic human being I’ve ever met.
Considering that a large chunk of the readership here seems to have a similar read on this team, I guess I’ll have to wait in line with those folks for the “most optimistic human being” award.
To be honest this constant harping on the MSM reminds me of both hipsters and tea partiers.
You HAD to bring politics into the discussion? Really? Ignoring your cheap shot, the point is that most mainstream sports journalists don’t do a lot of penetrating analysis of their own. When it comes to looking deeply at each team and measuring their respective strengths and weaknesses, I trust the work done by guys here, at Fangraphs and other sites than I do guys like Heyman, or writers at the Post and Daily News.
Seconded
Looking at many of the hard facts, many of these “experts” are often just blatantly wrong.
Use the below graphic just for fun…
Murray Chass <——— Jon Heyman -—-||——— Adam Rubin -——— Dave Cameron -—→ Joe Posnanski/Rob Neyer
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
I never actually mention that the Mets have a good chance of making the playoffs
All I was saying was that it’s possible, and nobody should just rule them out. How about the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays? Known as the “Devil Rays” in 2007, they went 66-96 that year. 2008? They went to the World Series! If you would’ve walked into a sports bar in March 2008 and said the Rays would make it to the World Series, you would’ve been laughed out or booted out of the sports bar. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch – anything is possible. That’s why we play the games.
One more thing I said above, the following:
Granted, we have the intimidating Phillies and energized Braves to contend with, but if one takes into perspective, the potential that is there, it becomes easier to understand the argument.
Even if you understand the argument, you don’t necessarily have to agree with the argument, but you also don’t have to be condescending and abrasive about it, either. Both sides can make good arguments and make a good case for their respective sides without being smug about it.
If you don’t think the Mets have a shot at the playoffs, I’ll disagree with you, but I’ll at least respect your opinion if you’re not all smug about it and provide a logical explanation for your argument.
And yes, do use the subject lines. It may not be in the rule book, but you don’t have to pull a Jeff Francoeur on us with your rebuttal on this, either. It’s common courtesy/etiquette to use subject lines – I don’t see how it’s so much trouble to type a few words into one box, and optionally continue with the response in the body. Don’t take it personally – we’re not trying to belittle you. But at least use the subject lines, as a form of common courtesy/etiquette. It’s pretty much a standard thing on many SBNation blogs.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
for starters
fuck your subject line pissiness. go look at my comments history on my username in here. i tend to use them and always have, both on this blog and on the other sbnation ones i follow. leaving one off was incidental and is basically irrelevant anyway. shut the fuck up with yours and everyone elses whining about it and find something rational to worry about. christ.
Having got that off my chest, I’m glad you brought up the Rays. Because that’s a stupid goddamn argument to bring up and does nothing but reinforce my position. The Rays made a record-setting turnaround. As in, it was a HUGE deviation from the norm. Don’t hope to win powerball, because that is OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS STANDARD. It’s great to hope for it, however trying to plan around it is just silly. Secondly, the Rays made that change because of the best farm system in all of baseball at the time. They had a horrible team on the field and a ton of dudes waiting in the wings. Guess what the Mets DON’T have? Any of that.
The Mets have a weak farm system that just got weaker with the Mejia situation. The Mets have an albatross of a contract with Bay, another possible one with Santana if he can’t come back and again, we have no damn idea what sort of monetary situation we’re going to be looking at for the next few years.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 10, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
The Mets farm system is ranked about 20th.
We have some real nice guys, they’re just more than a year away (with the possible exception of Harvey). By the end of the year, I wouldn’t be surpised to see it graded 2-3 spots higher just because those young guys (like Puello, Flores, Familia, Cecillani, etc) will have had some time above Low-A. One good draft and IFA group and I could see it jump another 5-8 spots. The point is that the system isn’t bad, just shallow on MLB ready talent.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
We may have some intriguing guys down there but
it’s nowhere near the Rays from 2006-2008. They had so many good young pitching prospects that they had to deal guys like Scott Kazmir, Edwin Jackson, Matt Garza, Jason Hammel and Mitch Talbot among others away because they had no room for them in their rotation and could replace them with younger, cheaper and potentially better pitchers. The Mets aren’t close to that at any position and while guys like Puello, Flores, Familia and Ceciliani are interesting prospects, they all seem to have their flaws (Puello and Ceciliani have struggled with plate discipline and are so far away, Flores has no position and has yet to show power and Familia while showing improvement, still needs to make strides with his command and his secondary pitches to keep him out of the bullpen full time).
The result is that the system, while a bit improved because of guys slowly matriculating, is still pretty poor, especially at the upper levels and on the pitching side. I agree with your sentiment that one good draft/IFA class could really push it forward but at the same time, that does little to help the big league team in the near future (unless they take a fast-moving stud along the lines of Tulo, Lincecum, Longoria, etc). They also aren’t going to have the insane amount of Top 5 picks that the Rays had in the early to mid 2000’s, which is also a major part of how they got so much talent in the organization.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 10, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying that our system is similar to what there's was
Just that it’s not that bad.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I try to be as optimistic as I can be but
I think, on a scale of “good” to “bad”, we are still much closer to the “bad” side than the “good” side. Just my opinion, but obviously the depth of the system is still paper thin at the upper levels. It’s improved but it’s still not optimal if you want to compete and build a good team.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 10, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
it isn't that bad, it's league average or close to it
the people who want to “build for the future” wish it were elite.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on May 10, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The point is that the system isn’t bad, just shallow on MLB ready talent.
… That IS bad. Bottom third of the league bad. Again, when getting back to the point about the Rays, they had the BEST farm system. Not 20th, not 17th, not 5-8 spots above that, #1. A once in baseball history accomplishment occurred in almost full part because of the huge depth of talent they had. That is not the situation the Mets are in now.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 10, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And where did I say that we are in the same situation they were? I didn't.
I was merely making the point that while our farm system is ranked around 20ith, it’s not really that bad.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Ouch.
fuck your subject line pissiness. go look at my comments history on my username in here. i tend to use them and always have, both on this blog and on the other sbnation ones i follow. leaving one off was incidental and is basically irrelevant anyway. shut the fuck up with yours and everyone elses whining about it and find something rational to worry about. christ.
Was that really necessary?
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 10, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yea it kind of was
tired of people whining about something so irrelevant when it was covered and finished hours ago.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 10, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
abc
(It’s as easy as 1-2-3!)
for starters
fuck your subject line pissiness. go look at my comments history on my username in here. i tend to use them and always have, both on this blog and on the other sbnation ones i follow. leaving one off was incidental and is basically irrelevant anyway. shut the fuck up with yours and everyone elses whining about it and find something rational to worry about. christ.
I was only concurring with the other commenters, and you seemed to downplay the subject lines thing. I was only trying to add to the persuasiveness of the use of subject lines. Nobody here was ripping or tearing you apart about this. If you do use them regularly, then good. But all you did here was prove how immature and how narcissistic you really are.
Ok, now calm down, maybe step away from the computer, and meditate over a cup of Oolong Tea or something. Sheesh.
Having got that off my chest, I’m glad you brought up the Rays. Because that’s a stupid goddamn argument to bring up and does nothing but reinforce my position. The Rays made a record-setting turnaround. As in, it was a HUGE deviation from the norm. Don’t hope to win powerball, because that is OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS STANDARD. It’s great to hope for it, however trying to plan around it is just silly. Secondly, the Rays made that change because of the best farm system in all of baseball at the time. They had a horrible team on the field and a ton of dudes waiting in the wings. Guess what the Mets DON’T have? Any of that.
The only commodities from their farm system the Rays had on their ‘08 roster of discernible value were Evan Longoria and David Price – David Price only pitched 14 innings that year! So, his contributions in the regular season were, at most, minimal. And Evan Longoria was great that year, but there’s no way in hell that he helped the team win 31 more games by himself. Looking at the roster comparisons, the Rays acquired some much-needed assistance in that offseason with the additions of Matt Garza, Chad Bradford, Jason Bartlett, Gabe Gross, and Troy Percival, while making some equally important subtractions. Also, Dioner Navarro had a much better season in ’08 than in ’07, and Ben Zobrist showed dramatic improvement over his ’07 campaign. What helped the Rays more in ’08 than in ’07 more than anything else, was NOT their farm system, but their offseason moves on the market and the progress of some of the players already on the roster. Maybe do a little research.
Granted, the Mets’ offseason moves were not as dramatic, but we have already made progress by releasing Castillo and Perez, letting Feliciano go, and bringing in some role players in moves that were economically efficient; plus, I expect Ike Davis to have a tremendous season and I do expect some improvements with the staff overall, with the overhaul of the team staff and front office. Our chances at a postseason may be long, but don’t think for a moment that it’s impossible. You simply don’t know what you don’t know. I’m offering possibilities, while you try to pass these mentions of possibilities as useless banter. In essence, you are contributing zero value to the conversation. Apparently, you can’t seem to read between the lines. Let me summarize below:
1) Can the Mets make the playoffs in 2011? Yes.
2) What are the odds of a playoff berth for the Mets? Not good, but it’s still early.
3) Can the Phillies or Braves falter, allowing the Mets a spot on the playoffs? It’s definitely possible. Perhaps improbable, but possible, nonetheless.
4) Do I think the Mets will make the playoffs? Honestly, no. But, I will at least offer some reasons why they could, and contribute positively to the conversation at hand. I do think they have a shot at it (read: it’s an attainable goal), but the odds of it happening are against them. Comprende?
If you still want to debate the strength and premise of my argument, go right ahead. But in all likelihood, you’ll only come out looking like an idiot. After all, I provided you with some inside info.
The Mets have a weak farm system that just got weaker with the Mejia situation. The Mets have an albatross of a contract with Bay, another possible one with Santana if he can’t come back and again, we have no damn idea what sort of monetary situation we’re going to be looking at for the next few years.
The farm system has been significantly affected with the Mejia injury, though Jeurys Familia has shown great promise, having recently been promoted to Double-A Binghamton, and Kirk Nieuwenhuis has been great this year. Even with an inflated .403 BABIP this year, Kirk’s career BABIP in the minors is .344, so even a regression to career norms wouldn’t hurt his progress much. Our farm system, relatively speaking, is not great, but it’s certainly not a system consisting entirely of minor-league journeymen, either. As for the financial situation, I’ll just say this much: the team can do well in the future in free agency and contracts in spite of this in the future, and the players will get paid. The Mets won’t go bankrupt, as the team has enough leverage to at least find a new owner who will ultimately cover these financial losses, if worse comes to worse.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Just a clarification:
The only commodities from their farm system the Rays had on their ‘08 roster of discernible value were Evan Longoria and David Price…
These were the players brought up from the farm system in the 2008 season, who were considered top-notch prospects. There were other players already on their roster who were from their farm system, but then again, that still doesn’t account for all of the dramatic improvement derived from their farm system as a whole. Most of the improvements were made in the roster additions/subtractions, in the market.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Oh please God!!!!
“a meteor landing on either the Phillies or Braves”
this would be tragic though I think it would improve the look of Philly.
_______________________________________________
$100 to CARE per No-No and $1 per David Wright Homer.
by ScottfromPeekskill on May 13, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So, you believe that
the Mets can get 13 games better next season by trading one of the 3 best SS in the game for ‘a AAA guy’? Now who sounds clinically insane?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
no... if you actually read
say the Mets win 75 games this year. Alderson keeps the core, trades Beltran for an AAA guy and we improve 10 games. Fuck it, we win 88 next year.
Please tell me the last time Beltran played shortstop. You and the six people that rec’d your comment need to work on your reading comprehension.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Weird, I could have sworn it said Reyes.
My mistake. I still think that you’re wrong on this, though. They’re a lot closer to the playoffs than you think.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not in this division
If this were the NL Central or West, sure. There are two very good teams to contend with, both of whom have tons of pitching depth, and two other teams that aren’t just going to roll over and die.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Phillies don't scare me nearly as much as the Braves do.
The Phils are relying entirely on a core of over-30 veterans, and they’ve got no depth as a result. Plus, Utley’s injury takes away a huge part of their offense. A couple of injuries can completely expose them. The Braves, OTOH, are a pretty young team with lots of guys who are either still in their prime, or not even their yet.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea and no
If they didn’t have the pitching that they do, then yes, I would agree. As it stands, they made the NLCS last year and have the best record in baseball in this admittedly early season. They’ve won two thirds of their games with Howard, Ibanez and Francisco all hitting and OBP’ing below career norms. They scare me this year, next year and possibly the year after that. Let’s not assume that they aren’t gonna work to address their weaknesses in trades and offseasons as well.
I agree that the Braves are poised to be a contender for much of the rest of this decade, what with Heyward, Prado, McLouth, Freeman, Beachy, Jurrjens, Hanson and Teheran all under 30.
However, it’s dealing with Doc, Lee, etc. for the next few years that makes me want to have the Mets maybe take a step back and plan for later. Let’s say we’re average. Let’s say we improve a bit next year. Let’s say we improve a bit the year after that. You take an average team in the NL east and add on 10+ wins and that still has a DAMN good shot at not surpassing third place. It’s that concern that makes people like myself wonder if we shouldn’t cut bait on the next year or two and actually rebuild. Rebuild, rebuild. Long term rebuild, so maybe we’re at the top of the heap for half a decade or more kind of rebuild.
That way, we’ve got a shot at being REALLY good (and young) at a time when Philly loses three or four all-star pitchers, Howard and Rollins would be declining, and hopefully they can’t replace all those parts to be able to contend with the Mets and the Braves. That’s the concern. Not whether DAVID WRONGZ SUX, but whether it might not be better served long haul to think for deep October runs in years like 2014 as opposed to hoping we manage to surpass a pair of really good teams right away with all the variables to worry about.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're shooting for 2014, then there is no reason to trade anyone
It is much more efficient to go over-slot in the draft every year, and pick up several prospects with elite potential every year. In addition, the IFA budget can be increased, adding an additional pipeline for elite prospects.
With that many elite prospects in the system, the Mets can quickly build into being a legitimate contender by trading elite prospects for elite players, and probably do so in 2013.
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
also an option
i’m not one of the people that is hankering to trade the couer. that said, i would be astonished if at least one of the veterans isn’t gone this summer (beltran is looking like a likely candidate), and i wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was more than one. disappointed? yea, but not surprised at all.
either way you go about it, the braves and phillies represent a huge wall in front of sandy alderson. at the moment, with the way things are going, i’m in the camp that would prefer it if the mets went around the wall, rather than try and climb it.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
if we could get rid of bay and that contract
i would do a happy dance the likes you wouldn’t believe.
kinda like this:
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Resigning
Can mean any one of two things, and each of those two things are polar opposites.
1) To quit or leave a post.
2) To sign something again, for purposes of renewal.
Everybody wins!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Agreed with Beltran.
I love the guy but as long as he keeps hitting and stays on the field, he’s as good as gone. Sandy likely knows that he has to turn Beltran into another player since we can’t get picks for him if he were to walk as a free agent. And I doubt Sandy re-signs Beltran just because of his age and the volatility of those knees.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The wall you speak of may be high
but it’s certainly not insurmountable.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Howard and Rollins are already declining.
And Oswalt just went on the DL for what seems like the 7th time of his career. They’ll be good for maybe 2 more years. After that, they’ll be loaded up with guys who aren’t producing but have immovable contracts.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
yea... thats what i said
although it’s a fairly small sample size and they’re both young enough to turn it around, at least this year. 2-3 years from now, when the phillies aren’t as good as they are now, is the time for the mets to be good.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But you don't need to trade Wright or Reyes to be good 2-3 years from now.
In fact, I’d think it would be harder to be good 2-3 years from now with out either of those two.
Just one good draft and IFA crop probably vaults our farm system from 20-ish to 12-ish since the reason for so many people being so down on it in the first place was the lack of talent at or above AA.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2-3 years from now
The Braves are going to be nothing short of full on perennial division title contenders. The only hole they’ll likely literally have on their entire team is 3B if they dedicate Prado to the OF.
"Intelligence is not a genetic predisposition. Think stupid!!"
by Wright of passage on May 11, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Shane Victorino called Andrew Bynum to help with these Bush League posts.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
i have no idea who this singer person is
i’m myself. deal with it.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Bring Singer knew how to capitalize and use proper grammar, so he’s got that on you.
by dcmetsfan on May 9, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
lol
o noes, the grammerz politzi.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah
At least Brain Stinger could do that.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
You mean this guy?
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
why i refuse to support reyes's or wright's departure | k counter tutorials: part 1 part 2
sparbz.com
@sparbz
by sparbz on May 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ain't easy being green
well technically it is, just three recs away
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 9, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
hey thats my sig!!!
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you think Niewenhuis is our #2 prospect
you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
A few points
1. Jason Bay doesn’t stink. I agree that is overrated. Look at his track record though, he has done well in the past and it would be foolish to give up on him already. I thought the Mets gave him too much money, but either way he is still a decent player and the Mets have other outfielders who do perform well, such as Pagan and Pridie. Bay will likely turn it on eventually.
2. OK, I agree that the Royals do have good players and have a lot of potential. It was a bad choice of team on my part. But I think it is fair to say that it got the point across. Perhaps I should have used a different team instead of the Royals but it really doesn’t matter.
3. I don’t care if you think that the Mets can make the playoffs this year. Thats your opinion and its not a big deal to me. However, almost 50% of the people who voted do think the Mets can make it. And for you to just say that those people are insane because you disagree with them is immature. You have a good point about this being a hard division, but obviously many of us think the Mets are a good enough team to catch up. I don’t think anyone would appreciate you calling them insane for disagreeing with you.
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on May 10, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone who legitimitely thinks
that the mets are a playoff team this year seriously should learn a bit about baseball. Or see a psychiatrist. There are tons of holes and injuries not to mention the division they are in. You can call it immature if you feel like it, I prefer to think of it as not being delusional. You can feel they’re a playoff team if you want to, but you’re flat out wrong. You can disagree all you like, it won’t make it any righter.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 11, 2011 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, lighten up
One of the psychologically normal aspects of being a fan is wanting to believe that your team has a legit shot at the playoffs. You’re really taking this thing way too seriously. Just… let… it… go… please.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 11, 2011 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The catch phrase of the francise is...
“YOU GOTTA BELIEVE”
This is a better team than I thought it would be. They are a small run away from being in it. They are not ias mpossibly defeated as they have been in the past.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
by GreenBeer on May 11, 2011 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're taking this as if we're saying the Mets are a lock for a playoff spot this year.
And I see nobody here saying that. Do they have a shot at making the playoffs? It may be a shot in the dark, but that is still by definition a shot. You seem to be taking this way out of proportion with what people are saying. I think there’s probably more of a chance Chin Lung Hu hits a home run this season than there is a chance of the Mets making the playoffs. Doesn’t mean that the team can’t get really hot and surprise everybody. Who knows what could happen. That’s the beauty of baseball.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 11, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sweet, i'm being trolled by people telling me that we haven't been mathematically eliminated yet
pardon me while i golf clap a bit.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 11, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible to get trolled by almost the entire readership?
Get off you high horse.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 11, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
when I'm right? yea
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 11, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect example
of the pot calling the kettle black!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
also, implying a handful of people
is the entire readership of AA is insulting to the blog. Pretty sure they have more traffic than you few.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 11, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The sample size of the people who post on this blog
is large enough to be representative of the readership of the blog. People come to this site, and return to this site, because of the content posted here. In case you didn’t know, Amazin’ Avenue gets ~7,000 visits per day
Not page hits, visits. It may not seem like much, but that’s about 2,557,000 visits per year. Amazin’ Avenue doesn’t have to be a huge community to be great. (The actual figure between May 2010 and April 2011 is 2,184,623, but as the chart below shows, readership will only continue to grow. And you can’t stop all 2 million of us! (haha…)
yellow = visits, red = page views
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 12, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
yea, and half a dozen people are commenting on this thread.
herp
a
derp
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 12, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides you and your stunt double friend Brian
31 others have posted on this thread, including me
1) Half a dozen = 6
2) 6 ≠ half a dozen
By using the associative property, we can then logically conclude the following:
3) 31 ≠ half a dozen
I would like to offer you a suggestion: Try to understand the points of views of the other people here making responses. And for whatever reason, it seems like your preconceived notions of the Mets as a team besieged by recent maladies leads you to illogically conclude that the team has no shot at playoff contention, or absolutely no chance whatsoever. And speaking of which, were we not talking (or not talking) about trades to begin with!? If we were already out of contention, the team would have traded Jose Reyes by now. You have provided no evidence whatsoever that it is impossible for the Mets to contend for the playoffs. You are no better than the idiot sports pundits out there who talk a lot of **** just to fill up a specified amount of air time.
ALL WE CAN DO IS SPECULATE – NONE OF US ARE CLAIRVOYANTS.
Oh no, but you know what will happen in October. You know everything. Ok, then answer me this: Who do I bet on, to win the World Series? Who are the two participants in the WS? What will all the boxscores be for all of this year’s WS games?
NOBODY HERE SAID THE METS HAD A GOOD SHOT AT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS, EITHER. BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.
You call everyone insane, when meanwhile, you are the one making all the insane implications here. Nobody said the Mets were a lock or had a better shot than not at making the playoffs. And nobody is suggesting that, either!
So now that all that is said, I ask: What is your argument, really? Because as far as I’m concerned, you have none. And you are looking more like a non-Mets fan. If the Mets do, by some chance, make the playoffs, will you root against the team for proving you wrong?
I think you’re done here.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 12, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
My bad; I meant this
31 others have posted on this thread, including me
1) Half a dozen = 6
2) 6 ≠ 31
By using the associative property, we can then logically conclude the following:
3) 31 ≠ half a dozen
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 12, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In this thread, homie.
Shit, take credit for all 31.
31 out of thousands. Real full spectrum.
Stats, how do they work?!
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 12, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You're the one saying a mathematical chance at the playoffs doesn't matter.
Math, how does it work?!
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 12, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
awesome troll job
i’ll have to remember that one.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 12, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I have over 8000 comments on AA.
but yeah, I'm totally a troll.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 12, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, deep cover troll
It’s all the more effective when you so thoroughly insinuate yourself in the community first.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 13, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
If Mookie was here,
me and him would lecture you about how wrong you are, without having to consult the Monster Manual!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 13, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
8000 comments
doesn’t mean you aren’t trying to troll the fuck outta me. in fact, they have nothing to do with each other.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 13, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, this is fun.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on May 13, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Research Rec
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 12, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, where do you find all this stuff ?
you are like the resident encyclopedia of this site
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Really...it's pretty unbelievable.
Color me impressed.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Ever notice
the “”http://www.sitemeter.com/stats.asp?site=sm7amazinavenue" target="new">" at the bottom of the page? It takes you to the sitemeter, which details much of the site activity.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
You learn things every day.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the 2007 Rockies or 2004 Astros or the ::gag, vomit:: 2007 Phillies as examples of why it's stupid to give up so early
You never know what could happen, especially with this much time left in the season. Are we saying a turnaround like those teams had is likely? Absolutely not, nobody is claiming thats the likely scenario. But they were probably as despondent as we are at the time. It’s happened before, and with nearly 5 months of the season left, theres a LOT of baseball left to be played. Being so negative at this juncture in time is pointless, but you’re entitled to your opinion. However trying to drag other people down with you, or mocking them for not writing off a season in it’s infancy just makes you annoying.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on May 11, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey (omitted word to try to keep this civil...you make the decision what word fits here)
You’re the one misinterpreting what everybody’s saying. If you don’t want to believe it, then fine but until the team’s mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, there’s a chance. Like I said, it’s not a particularly good chance but it is still a chance. Nobody’s saying they’re a playoff team. We are grounded in enough reality to realize that. However, there’s always an outside chance that everybody gets hot at the right time, everybody stays healthy and they make some noise.
Just because you’re a Met fan doesn’t mean you have to be completely fucking negative every single day of your life. If you’re going to be that damn negative, what’s the point of even watching? I’d imagine it’s just to say “I told you so” to every person who had even a shred of hope. If that gets you off, then more power to you, but it’s a pretty sad way to go through out life.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 11, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
even better, it's amateur psychology hour!
please, do psychoanalyze my entire life because I think the 2011 Mets are not a playoff team. this is highly relevant to anything
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 11, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Psychology? Oh please.
Thanks for taking this in a completely different direction by saying that I’m trying to psychoanalyze you.
You’re obviously negative and I’ll assume it gets you off to stomp on people’s enjoyment of the “Miracle Mets” view of things. It’s fine if that’s the way you are. Just don’t expect me to agree with your negativity.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 11, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
it's called reality
you should try it sometime. having the ability to be objective about things is a positive trait. it allows you to properly evaluate things such as risk/reward amongst other numerous life features.
but by all means, you and the others in this thread, please do continue to feel that the mets are a playoff team this year and all this negativity is a main stream media creation.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 12, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
This thread was NOT about whether or not the Mets were a playoff team or not
It was about trades and trade candidates, first of all.
Second of all, live and let live. You spend too much time worrying about what other people think; the point isn’t even about whether or not the Mets are a playoff team anymore. This has turned into a forum where you are expressing judgment of everyone who disagrees with what you think, calling people who think the Mets are a playoff team “insane”. The fact is, the Mets may or may not be a playoff team, and everyone has their reasons for their side of the argument. This is all still speculation at this point, and you can’t make judgments about the future without having experienced it first.
You have your opinions, we have ours. But you have no right to pass off your opinions as fact, and make it a fact. The poll was an opinion poll. You are passing off your arguments as fact. In essence, you’re a quack.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
by sj10689 on May 12, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
When the OP said "a playoff team", it really meant "have a chance in hell to make the playoffs".
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Yes, we aren't mathematically eliminated
If thats your definition of a playoff team, then we need to work on finding a common ground for our labels.
http://mixedmartialartsblogger.wordpress.com/
by Cory Braiterman on May 12, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
KrmtDfrog is obviously Miss Cleo in disguise.
He reads tarot cards and can tell the future. Hi Miss Cleo!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Kermit really has regurgitated everything he (thinks he) knows, on this thread
This is kind of what I mean…
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Or no.
A 5% chance to make the playoffs is a 5% chance to make the playoffs.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 11, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so you're saying theres a chance...
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on May 11, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ignore me
I must be insane.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 12, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey
I think the Mets can make the playoffsthis year and I dont need to see a shrink because of that, there are plenty of reasons why I should see one but the Mets aint one
by bigbluefan1985 on May 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey
I think the Mets can be a playoff team in 2011 and I dont need to see a shrink for that, I have other issues that seeing a shrink could be helpful for but the Mets aint one.
by bigbluefan1985 on May 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 13, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to say....
trades are part of sports life if you don’t like it, just don’t pay attention to it. mostly its just made up stuff by silly sports writers who want people to read their material. I mean, do we really care how much some guy writes up whom to trade from a struggling team?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
I am not even sure this is an 80-85 win team, .500 at best
this team’s recent struggles are reflective of their average ways. they can’t beat the filthies, unlike past years, they can’t even beat weaker teams on a consistent basis. (ie Astros).
don’t forget this team can’t hit with RISP…and with the bases loaded? forget it. it’s like the Mets hitters develop the jitters and forget how to hit.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
80-85 wins puts us right around .500
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on May 9, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Haha, this is classic
_______________________________________________
$100 to CARE per No-No and $1 per David Wright Homer.
by ScottfromPeekskill on May 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
true..but..oh nvm...:) let's just say I'd rather this team be a bit better than .500 for this year and beyond
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
So, like...
80-85ish wins?
_______________________________________________
$100 to CARE per No-No and $1 per David Wright Homer.
by ScottfromPeekskill on May 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah a good post that should have sparked a discussion
has turned into a greenvalanche of madness
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on May 9, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
x
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
Stupid happened.
Remember, folks….stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump taught me that many years ago.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 9, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, this thread exploded.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 9, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Something tells me that the SiteBot Facepalm of the Week
Is gonna come from this thread.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 9, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One would hope.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
wow great post
especially for a 13 yr old. btw, anybody notice that brian singers initials are B.S. fits him well, i think. c’mon, ripping a 13 yr old! especially one who is clearly talented? i dont get it. only bones i have to pick w/ the piece are that krod should get traded at the deadline (i dont care whether we’re in the race or not at that pt, he’s gotta go so that he cant get the vest). i also disagree w/ the notion that the mets are santan, 2nd base and bullpen away from playoffs. they also need a bench, a hitting bay and wright and some ok starting pitching (i actually think 2nd base is fine now but whatever). otherwise a fantastic piece. KEEP IT UP!!!
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
well, everyone is allowed their opinions, no matter how harsh or silly
but thanks for the entertaining thread you guys….no wonder I come back to AA. and post again even.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Well even though this thread totally blew up and half the discussion wasn't even relevant to the post
I still got 19 recs and counting, which was enough to get me into the top 50 of the Rec-ord book (even though its too late)
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
make it 20 now, forgot to rec it in the madness
You’ll be right in the mix for next years im sure
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on May 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure
the controversial topics have a greater potential for greatness. I figured this post would get to 10 recs easily, but 20 is madness!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
To be honest I didn't expect this to get more than maybe 5 recs
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on May 11, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, a thread called "Thou Shall not speaketh of Trades"...
…resulted in very little speak of trades. So I guess that is on topic success.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
by GreenBeer on May 11, 2011 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Good point
I actually forgot it was about trades to begin with. Actually, yeah – this deserves a rec.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
lol, there is always that
though, with people now wanting to make the rec-ord book, will 20 recs be enough this time?
not that you are doing this, but it reminds me of adamlawson asking for recs at the end of his fanposts
I LIKE IKE!
The competition will be intense, for sure
The months ahead will be filled with duplicate account rec’ing activity
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Note: All links within my sig will open in a new window.
Let's turn Amazin' Avenue Red! (You can help)
The Dickey Chronicles | Familia Guy
* sj10689 is a proud member of SKFCOA
24 recs and counting
Maybe this will help sway your College Admissions Board into giving you a Free Ride.
by neoncleon on May 11, 2011 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is crazy
I remember when this thread was just a baby with 15 comments or so. Oh, how it has grown, and the adult form of this thread is indeed the high school dropout with three kids all from different mothers/fathers, rather than the college grad we all dreamt it would become.
Your intentions were good, Bobby, they were. Sometimes there is nothing you can do when your child meets bad people, though, no matter how hard you try. :(
Kicking knowledge in the face.
by BlackOps on May 13, 2011 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Best analogy ever.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 453 posts (10/03/10)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 13, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
This is awesome.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on May 13, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This thread...Wow.
I learned a few things here:
1. AA is the funniest baseball site I’ve read since FJM
2. Wow, there are a lot of douches
3. SJ10689’s negative recs are brilliant. He should write a tutorial.
Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
by Aidan Gibson on May 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Amazin' Avenue
Related FanShots on Amazin' Avenue
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
FanShots
Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.
Recommended FanShots
Recent FanShots
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Baseball Nation Recent Stories
In Association With
Big League Stew - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
- Get a grip: Reds’ Todd Frazier loses bat, still connects for home run (Video)
- Eric Hosmer redefines the Baltimore chop with infield double (Video)
- College player makes impossible over the fence catch to save tournament game (Video)
- Security!: Camden Yards guard collides with Royals’ Mike Moustakas
- The Juice: Nelson Cruz matches career high eight RBIs, Pujols stays hot in Seattle
