Jim Bowden Is A Sabermagician
Jim Bowden of ESPN posted his "Simple Stats To Evaluate Teams, Players". Among them is OPSBIs -- that's OPS + RBI. The OPSBIs leaderboard looks curiously like the OPS leaderboard. I wonder why?
I've come up with some relevant stats of my own:
ERABC -- ERA + level of literacy
ISOMG -- ISO + OMG factor
WARDDD -- WAR + size of man boobs
OPSBD -- OPS + potency of silent-but-deadly farts
OBPBR -- OBP + number of Pabst Blue Ribbon's consumed this season
Feel free to suggest others.
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TangoTiger
is kicking himself for not coming up with this first. Throw out The Book, all you need is an excel spreadsheet with OPSBIs.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jun 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
my favorite metric for baseball commentators is USIBIDUEO
Unnecessary Stats Invented Because I Didn’t Understand Existing Ones.
Jim Bowden is among the league leaders!
by anonymous on Jun 16, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
The "once" part makes lot's of sense after reading that article...
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by Bill Petti on Jun 16, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
gold jerry gold
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jun 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's beyond stupid
Take this example:
Over the past ten seasons, Player A averaged a .900 OPS and 80 RBI. Player B averaged an .880 OPS and 85 RBI.
Player A is the better player, no? OPBSI says he is — on average, Player A has a .980 while Player B has a .965.
But over the whole decade — important for those “player of the decade” debates, snort — Player A’s OPSBI is 1.700, while Player B 1.730.
How do you possibly devise a stat which leads to a different result based on how you look at it?
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It's worse than that
You are adding a counting stat and a rate stat. And two stats that are scaled completely differently.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No, no. It's cool...
…because he converts OPS to the same scale as RBI’s by multiplying the former by 1000 before he adds them. So he’s golden.
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by Bill Petti on Jun 16, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait
Isn’t .900 + 80 = 80.900? And .880 + 85 = 85.880? It’s actually the reason why I found the stat so absurd. And comical. For that matter, who needs OPS anyway?
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measures false hustle, normalized w/r to vituperativenes of local media.
I like
It takes into account the net negative multiplier for being Hispanic, right?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ERARADA
ERA+ level of R.A Dickey awesomeness.
Note: R.A Dickey awesomeness is a constant infinite value.
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by TKFJ on Jun 16, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
WCBAC
Word Count + Blood Alcohol Content — attempts to quantify how silly an article it is by looking at the required word count and blood alcohol level of the writer. A similar stat is the xESPN, which measures, statistically, with a 12% error, whether or not the article appeared on ESPN.com, and the OMAR, which measures Omar.
by tmu on Jun 16, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
LOBBY
Left on Base + Big Yutz
Measures non-productivity of aging Canadians, combined with inarticulate GM’s effectiveness in overpaying them.
I for one welcome our new hedge fund overlord.
by Ownbey4Mex on Jun 16, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
OPSDR
OPS-Douchebag Rating
Note: Dicktorino always has a negative record
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-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
Reading the comments over on that article is priceless
Also, I was at first expecting this to be an ESPN page 2 spoof article. Once I realized it was an attempt to be serious I nearly fell off my chair in my cubicle.
oh my god you're right
Bowden actually responds in the comments! With all the effort he’s putting in, you’d think he could’ve maybe thought a little harder about the initial piece…
gotta give the guy a little credit for that
some of you smarter gents should go over there and really explain to him what he is doing wrong.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Its a lost cause
Some people actually make logical arguments as to why things like RBI are useless and he just completely misses the point.
I just find it amazing that someone with that little sense of general logic could have been hired as a GM. I mean he essentially took a relatively good statistic to measure a hitter (OPS) and made it worse, and in doing so actually thought that he was making it better.
wGREDGE+
This is (Grission*Edge) that is weighted for ball parks, local media, and starlets nailed. It is scaled so that 100 = league average.
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Hmm...
TPR: That’s Poor Rating
B:B Ratio: Beer-to-Baseball Ratio
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IRABU
how much of a fat toad you are?
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 16, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
Love this
ERABC- A pitcher with a 1.5 ERA but a 5th grade reading level has a 6.5 but a pitcher with a 5 ERA and 1st grade reading level has a 6.0 so clearly we need less literate pitchers.
Also I think Miggy Cabrrera is not only the OBPBR leader but the PBR-OBP leader as well.
My friend and I always joked about how we were going to add #/% to our fantasy league which is Jersey number divided by fielding percentage.
The comment from the guy about OPSBI's correlation to Batting Runs is pretty funny
I did the same thing really fast for hitters in 2010. The r^2 for OPSBI was .917 and for OPS is was .946. So Bowden’s big achievement was to take a perfect good statistic and actually make it worse.
I realize this analysis is beyond flawed, but I was just basing it on what the guy’s comment was contending and found it kind of funny.
by Balagast on Jun 16, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah, the very idea of responding to this kind of idiocy by testing its r-squared is very funny
Like saying “Oh yeah? You actually mean this seriously? Then let’s test it seriously.” I mean, it’s a complete waste of time — it’s trivially obvious that he made the stat worse — but it’s both useful and hilarious to confirm that with SCIENCE.
This
I love this idea. It’s a wDUMB+ stat, and Bowden gets an infinity.
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by Hasan Paliwala on Jun 16, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
CHLDRAT
This is the Clubhouse Leader Difference Ratio. This correctly measures what difference being a “leader” makes by adding all accumulated stats, then adding number of smiles and positive interviews/articles written, then subtracting frowns, and multiplying all that by zero.
by David G on Jun 16, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
who the fuck is this guy trying to kid?
I can only imagine they let him publish this for the LOLs
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I refer everyone to a classic bit of SABR Satire
General Requirements of Intangible Talent (GRIT)
(Dirt + Determination – Talent) / Opportunity
Seriously, everyone, click here.
Perfect - now we have a tangible statistic for grit
now if he could just add passion and give us a grission stat we’d be all set.
Damn
You beat me to it
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PAAF – pitches above the average Francoeur at-bat
GS – grandslam, when someone hits a HR with the bases loaded
SHITT – sacrifice hits in the third
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by astromets on Jun 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What is this GS you are talking about?
And seriously, “grand slam,” that means winning all four major golf or tennis tournaments in a year. What a stupid way to come up with a baseball term. They should be called HRBLs (rhymes with gerbils), Home runs with bases loaded. I think that will catch on .
False Hustle.
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Grandslams
Is about selfish players increasing there RBI numbers for big money contracts. The real grission move is always the suicide squeeze
by MatthewM11 on Jun 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OPS-SOLOAUAWP
That stands for “OPS – Striking Out Looking on an unhittable Adam Wainwright Pitch.”
Every player in baseball has an OPS-SOLOAUAWP exactly identical to their career OPS, except for Carlos Beltran, who has a 0.
2009 Did Not Happen
I'm guessing others have struck out looking
on equally unhittable Wainwright pitches. He’s not bad.
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by keepcoolbutcare on Jun 16, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
I have a stat for awesomeness: Introducing xGWD (Pronounced "x gawd")
(grission * WAR * -DF * (.01 * (200 – PF)))
Grission = [((HBP + IBB) * (1 + (CS/SB))) + ((outs – SO) + (BB + SH + SF) + GIDP) – (XBH + RBI + TB + ((OBP – SLG) * 1000))] / PA
WAR = Wins above replacement
DF = Standardized Douchebag factor (Where a positive number denotes douchebagginess, and a negative number denotes the total opposite. A number of “0” indicates the player is probably very boring and inspires little or no discussion, or that their coolness is neutralized by their douchebagginess. All DF comparisons between players are relativ
PF = Park factor
It should come as little or no surprise that Shane Victorino has one of the lowest xGWD numbers out there, at -142.942.
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