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Jim Bowden Is A Sabermagician

Jim Bowden of ESPN posted his "Simple Stats To Evaluate Teams, Players". Among them is OPSBIs -- that's OPS + RBI. The OPSBIs leaderboard looks curiously like the OPS leaderboard. I wonder why?

I've come up with some relevant stats of my own:

ERABC -- ERA + level of literacy

ISOMG -- ISO + OMG factor

WARDDD -- WAR + size of man boobs

OPSBD -- OPS + potency of silent-but-deadly farts

OBPBR -- OBP + number of Pabst Blue Ribbon's consumed this season

 

Feel free to suggest others.

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TangoTiger

is kicking himself for not coming up with this first. Throw out The Book, all you need is an excel spreadsheet with OPSBIs.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jun 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

my favorite metric for baseball commentators is USIBIDUEO

Unnecessary Stats Invented Because I Didn’t Understand Existing Ones.

Jim Bowden is among the league leaders!

by anonymous on Jun 16, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Wow...

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

gold jerry gold

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jun 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's beyond stupid

Take this example:

Over the past ten seasons, Player A averaged a .900 OPS and 80 RBI. Player B averaged an .880 OPS and 85 RBI.

Player A is the better player, no? OPBSI says he is — on average, Player A has a .980 while Player B has a .965.

But over the whole decade — important for those “player of the decade” debates, snort — Player A’s OPSBI is 1.700, while Player B 1.730.

How do you possibly devise a stat which leads to a different result based on how you look at it?

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by Dan Lewis on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It's worse than that

You are adding a counting stat and a rate stat. And two stats that are scaled completely differently.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I had that originally

It’s just moronic.

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by Dan Lewis on Jun 16, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no. It's cool...

…because he converts OPS to the same scale as RBI’s by multiplying the former by 1000 before he adds them. So he’s golden.

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by Bill Petti on Jun 16, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wait

Isn’t .900 + 80 = 80.900? And .880 + 85 = 85.880? It’s actually the reason why I found the stat so absurd. And comical. For that matter, who needs OPS anyway?

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by sj10689 on Jun 17, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

xFHUS

measures false hustle, normalized w/r to vituperativenes of local media.

by tmu on Jun 16, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I like

It takes into account the net negative multiplier for being Hispanic, right?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOLHAUS

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jun 16, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLHAUS#54

LOLHAUS#54

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

OPSDR

OPS-Douchebag Rating

Note: Dicktorino always has a negative record

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by Aidan Gibson on Jun 16, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading the comments over on that article is priceless

Also, I was at first expecting this to be an ESPN page 2 spoof article. Once I realized it was an attempt to be serious I nearly fell off my chair in my cubicle.

by Balagast on Jun 16, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my god you're right

Bowden actually responds in the comments! With all the effort he’s putting in, you’d think he could’ve maybe thought a little harder about the initial piece…

by anonymous on Jun 16, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta give the guy a little credit for that

some of you smarter gents should go over there and really explain to him what he is doing wrong.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Jun 16, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a lost cause

Some people actually make logical arguments as to why things like RBI are useless and he just completely misses the point.

I just find it amazing that someone with that little sense of general logic could have been hired as a GM. I mean he essentially took a relatively good statistic to measure a hitter (OPS) and made it worse, and in doing so actually thought that he was making it better.

by Balagast on Jun 16, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wGREDGE+

This is (Grission*Edge) that is weighted for ball parks, local media, and starlets nailed. It is scaled so that 100 = league average.

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Jun 16, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it adjusted for herpes?

I for one welcome our new hedge fund overlord.

by Ownbey4Mex on Jun 16, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be

hGREDGE

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jun 16, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

TPR: That’s Poor Rating

B:B Ratio: Beer-to-Baseball Ratio

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

IRABU

how much of a fat toad you are?

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 16, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Love this

ERABC- A pitcher with a 1.5 ERA but a 5th grade reading level has a 6.5 but a pitcher with a 5 ERA and 1st grade reading level has a 6.0 so clearly we need less literate pitchers.

Also I think Miggy Cabrrera is not only the OBPBR leader but the PBR-OBP leader as well.

My friend and I always joked about how we were going to add #/% to our fantasy league which is Jersey number divided by fielding percentage.

by revans on Jun 16, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The comment from the guy about OPSBI's correlation to Batting Runs is pretty funny

I did the same thing really fast for hitters in 2010. The r^2 for OPSBI was .917 and for OPS is was .946. So Bowden’s big achievement was to take a perfect good statistic and actually make it worse.

I realize this analysis is beyond flawed, but I was just basing it on what the guy’s comment was contending and found it kind of funny.

by Balagast on Jun 16, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah, the very idea of responding to this kind of idiocy by testing its r-squared is very funny

Like saying “Oh yeah? You actually mean this seriously? Then let’s test it seriously.” I mean, it’s a complete waste of time — it’s trivially obvious that he made the stat worse — but it’s both useful and hilarious to confirm that with SCIENCE.

by anonymous on Jun 16, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

I love this idea. It’s a wDUMB+ stat, and Bowden gets an infinity.

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by Hasan Paliwala on Jun 16, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

CHLDRAT

This is the Clubhouse Leader Difference Ratio. This correctly measures what difference being a “leader” makes by adding all accumulated stats, then adding number of smiles and positive interviews/articles written, then subtracting frowns, and multiplying all that by zero.

by David G on Jun 16, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

who the fuck is this guy trying to kid?

I can only imagine they let him publish this for the LOLs

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by astromets on Jun 16, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I refer everyone to a classic bit of SABR Satire

General Requirements of Intangible Talent (GRIT)

(Dirt + Determination – Talent) / Opportunity

Seriously, everyone, click here.

by TheBigStapler on Jun 16, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Perfect - now we have a tangible statistic for grit

now if he could just add passion and give us a grission stat we’d be all set.

by ZZPops on Jun 16, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

You beat me to it

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by sj10689 on Jun 17, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAJM - wins above jerrybot manager, to evaluate managers

JRR – Jose Reyes runs, get on base, steal 2B and 3B, score on an out
PAAF – pitches above the average Francoeur at-bat
GS – grandslam, when someone hits a HR with the bases loaded
SHITT – sacrifice hits in the third

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by astromets on Jun 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

What is this GS you are talking about?

And seriously, “grand slam,” that means winning all four major golf or tennis tournaments in a year. What a stupid way to come up with a baseball term. They should be called HRBLs (rhymes with gerbils), Home runs with bases loaded. I think that will catch on .

by goquakers on Jun 16, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

False Hustle.

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by sparbz on Jun 16, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grandslams

Is about selfish players increasing there RBI numbers for big money contracts. The real grission move is always the suicide squeeze

by MatthewM11 on Jun 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

OPS-SOLOAUAWP

That stands for “OPS – Striking Out Looking on an unhittable Adam Wainwright Pitch.”

Every player in baseball has an OPS-SOLOAUAWP exactly identical to their career OPS, except for Carlos Beltran, who has a 0.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jun 16, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

to be clear:

the dash is a “minus” sign

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jun 16, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing others have struck out looking

on equally unhittable Wainwright pitches. He’s not bad.

by tmu on Jun 16, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a stat for awesomeness: Introducing xGWD (Pronounced "x gawd")

(grission * WAR * -DF * (.01 * (200 – PF)))

Grission = [((HBP + IBB) * (1 + (CS/SB))) + ((outs – SO) + (BB + SH + SF) + GIDP) – (XBH + RBI + TB + ((OBP – SLG) * 1000))] / PA
WAR = Wins above replacement
DF = Standardized Douchebag factor (Where a positive number denotes douchebagginess, and a negative number denotes the total opposite. A number of “0” indicates the player is probably very boring and inspires little or no discussion, or that their coolness is neutralized by their douchebagginess. All DF comparisons between players are relativ
PF = Park factor

It should come as little or no surprise that Shane Victorino has one of the lowest xGWD numbers out there, at -142.942.

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*All DF comparisons between players are relative*

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by sj10689 on Jun 17, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Reyes' xGWD = 157.32467532467532467532467532468

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