Friday Morning Applesauce: Mets lose on walk off balk, F! gets hurt, Kazmir and Carter released

by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 17, 2011 9:01 AM EDT in Applesauce

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As noted in the headlines, the Mets certainly are finding interesting ways to lose this season. It was certainly a very disappointing way to lose a game against the Braves, and the loss sees us drop back below .500 on the season. Jeff Bradley makes the point that they may currently be the more fun team in NY to watch.

Here's a little look into the Mets bidding process for the minority share of the team. I wonder if his desire to keep Jose Reyes is the reason Fred went another way.

Brian Costa seems shocked that the Mets are simply mediocre. I guess that's largely due to taking far to much stock in a early losing streak instead of realizing 162 games tend to fix small sample size related oddities.

Sandy Alderson seems to understand that the fans love Jose...now he just needs to convince some schmuck in NY to pony up the money to keep him around.

The sun rose this morning at 5:24 AM. Fernando Martinez is hurt again. Unfortunately he's only 65-70% of the prospect he once was.

Around MLB:

As the Mets are in a must sell situation for a share of the team and the Dodgers struggle to make payroll, but former commisioner Fay Vincent decides to point out that Mark Cuban is not what MLB is looking for in owners. After all, who'd want a ridiculously rich guy that could pay his bills and take a mid-market team and let them compete financially with the Yankees?

MLB is also starting to look closer at the security provided in Dodger stadium. Say what you will about the way the Mets have been run, but they actually look pretty good compared to the Dodgers.

Adam LaRoche is officially done for the year. We'll likely see him again next spring.

After he was released, Fangraphs takes a look at the decline of Scott Kazmir. While he's been disappointing the last several years, he's still better than Victor Zambrano.

The Durham Bulls have freed the animal. Good return for an impending type A free agent Omar.

For those interested, highly rated prospect Dustin Ackley is set to debut for the Mariners tonight.

It's nice to see opinions like this with all the talk of re-alignment. I doubt anything will really change, but it's still nice to see writers in American League markets who actually enjoy the game as it was meant to be played.

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Jeffrey Loria is the perfect owner

"I mean, winning is not everything, and I’m afraid for some of these owners they get so carried away with winning they believe that’s the objective."

by lstorie1971 on Jun 17, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions

Why put out a good but costly team that wins for the fans

when you could just put out a cheap team and make money for yourself?

by Shevshevy on Jun 17, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

And on that note, given Jeff ‘little Hitler’ Loria, the latest controversy with Loria firing the hitting coach and Morrison getting called on the carpet for daring to support the coach -it’s been speculated that Morrison is the next to go. Apparently Loria can’t abide any criticism and he hates Morrison’s twitter account.

Wonder what it would take to pry Morrison away from FL? Maybe strike while the iron is hot.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 17, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Would love Morrison

by brooklynberger on Jun 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

I'd love LoMo on the Mets.

He’s going to be a stud for them (or another team if Loria is that stupid).

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 17, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

O.K.

How about Lutz, FMart and maybe one other lower level prospect?

Too much?

by MetsFan4Decades on Jun 17, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't know if the Marlins would do it but I'd definitely consider that.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 17, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Hells yeah

by Evan_S on Jun 17, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course, once they're gone

You just know Lutz and Fernando are gonna be healthy a turn into superstars

by Evan_S on Jun 17, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

How could we forget, Jeffrey.

It’s about you making a profit so that you can buy some new art for your mansion. That’s what it’s all about, right Jeff?

Ugh. I wish I had the money to own a baseball team. Some people just don’t deserve it.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 17, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Carter released in headlines, but no correlating story?

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by sparbz on Jun 17, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions

I think that link is about all the story there is

by theflicker on Jun 17, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions

All I could find

The Animal isn’t worth a press release apparently, so the Durham Bulls transaction page will have to do

by Stephen Schmidt on Jun 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Congrats Brian Costa

For coming to the same realization that many of us made three months ago.

by dcmetsfan on Jun 17, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions

I think they should move the Cardinals and Brewers to the AL

and give the NL the Royals. Until the Royals start being good. Then adjust as necessary to make sure the NL Central can be a crapfest.

by pologroundling on Jun 17, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions

I think they should move the 1927 Yankees and the 1976 Reds to the AL East

I don’t think the division is powerful enough.

by TheBigStapler on Jun 17, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs

The Brewers, yes.

The Cardinals, no. The Cardinals are an NL team.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jun 17, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

theyd be better off moving a good AL team to the NL

to rebalance the leagues. or just ditch the whole league nonsense and unbalanced schedules and just make it one league.

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by kendynamo on Jun 17, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions

If u take the 5-13 start and the game last night and that run of games...

against Pittsburgh where we were up after 7 innings everygame and still lost and then consider were basically a .500 team then u have to give credit to TC. It could really be alot worse right now. I remember being against the hiring but the experience of working with the kids as the minor league coordinator has been priceless as his positive energy resonates with what basically amounts to a team of his minor league charges. I think if Dubs and Ike and Johan can give us 2 to 2 1/2 months each we will get in the wildcard spot cause our bench will be the class of the league…

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by The real Julio from Paterson on Jun 17, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions

I don't think Johan

Will pitch at all for the Mets this year.

by keepcoolbutcare on Jun 17, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

imagine had Omar kept Wagner for the two draft picks?

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by feslenraster on Jun 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT reply actions

What would the point of that be?

Everyone knows you can build from within in New York. How does that change the availability of 33 year old free agents?

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by Dandy Salderson on Jun 17, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Don't remind me.

The Red Sox got the 20th overall pick in the draft and then the 39th overall pick from the Braves and chose Kolbrin Vitek and Anthony Ranaudo with those two picks, two pretty good prospects. It’s just so shortsighted to throw that away just to save 3.5 million of Wagner’s contract. I really hate Omar Minaya.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 17, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions

His desire to keep Jose

Better have motivated his reasoning behind picking the right owner, if he has half of a brain. I’m pretty sure the majority of his fanbase will revolt against him even further if they don’t at least make a reasonable offer to keep this guy. Do the right thing, Freddy.

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by MattT516 on Jun 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Wow, Fay Vincent

I gather he’s unhappy that Selig is so universally hated, and is trying to campaign to become the most widely despised ex-commissioner? Don’t worry, Fay, some of us still remember how you handled Pete Rose.

by anonymous on Jun 17, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions

Every time Fay opens his mouth

He actually makes the owners look good for canning him. Quite the accomplishment.

by dcmetsfan on Jun 17, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Every time Fay opens his mouth

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by CTRefJay on Jun 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I know not all AAers think the same, but

. . . given the amount of love “The Animal” got from this blog, it’s a bit tough to now turn around and lash Omar for the acquisition.

by tmu on Jun 17, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions

I understand what you're saying but

I think the actual trade was always reviled around here. The thought process of that deal was beyond stupid and quite obvious—save the money Billy Wagner was owed, regardless of who we get in return. It was a stupid deal, considering just keeping Wagner for another month and a half would’ve resulted in 2 draft picks or they could’ve dealt him for closer to that value.

And sure, we did have a thing for Carter in his time here but that’s mainly about rooting for the players you have on the roster. Nobody liked the trade, but Carter was an interesting guy to watch and we rooted for him…that doesn’t change the fact that we did not like the way that he was acquired or who he was acquired for.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jun 17, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs