Francisco Rodriguez To Brewers: Which PTBNL Do The Mets Get?

with a cool name like that, how can anyone NOT want him on the Mets?

the jury is out on whether this deal is a good one. but i am not so confident about it. the brewers system is dry. its another bad move and the first bad move by the sandy regime.

it is eerily remniscient of the armando benitez to yankees for jason anderson!!!! this is coming on the heels of the news that the marlins were desperate for a closer. after that awful deal, the marlins (who were interested in armando) traded for ugueth urbina. worked out for them as they won the world series. HOWEVER – the dude they dealt for him was adrian gonzalez.

so, on the outside, everything looks fine and dandy. the mets dumped the contract they have been wanting to dump – but as usual, nobody sees how they completely blow opportunities to restock their farm with talent. there are at least 3 teams that i can think of that are desperate for closers – the rays (rich with farmhands), white sox and cards. nice job, sandy.

Hopefully this helps in re-signing him. Yes.

As Sandy’s way of saying STFU and GTFO to Scott Boras….It was just a day ago that Boras said this:

“Francisco Rodriguez is a historic closer,” Boras said “He’s not going anywhere to be a setup man.” “Closers don’t make good setup men,” said Boras, “Does anyone want an unhappy setup man in their clubhouse?”

lol.

it was a good ride :(

If so, 40 or 25 man?

had the Mets kept K-Rod and slowed down his usage to avoid the vest. I’m assuming a nasty MLBPA grievance and the possibility that they’d need to pony up anyway, along with a decade of ill will from future free agents?

is Terry Collins role in all of it. Prior to spring training, he said he would use K-Rod in higher leverage situations – late innings where the game was on the line with the best hitters up – not just “run-of-the-mill save situations”. Of course he did nothing in the first half like he spoke about (except for some inning plus save work). He managed K-Rod in a very typical “closer role” and worse than that gave Franky 8 non-save opportunities (most of which we did not need a good reliever for) to finish games putting him squarely on track for his option to vest. Without those extra finishes, there would be no discussion of his vesting option. Collins completely mismanaged this situation and forced Alderson into a “whatever he could get” deal. And it was great that Alderson could pull something off.

But imagine if Collins had managed this situation better:

1. All teams needing closers or set-up men could be in on the trade discussions (not just teams needing set-up men) – only enhancing the potential return of the trade package (dollars or players)

2. If the Mets didn’t like any of the deals (feeling they were undervalued), they wouldn’t be pressured into taking a bad deal – to address the $17.5 million problem next year. They could wait it out and use K-Rod as their closer and buy out his option for $3.5mm.

3. Finally, any potential repercussions from a K-Rod/Boras lawsuit (which we know is coming and for which we don’t know who’s responsible – and I can’t see how the Brewers would agree to this risk, so it’s probably the Mets) claiming K-Rod wasn’t used in his appropriate role would be a non-discussion.

Terry Collins really blew this one and if there is any negativity to this deal, it should all be directed to him. Hopefully, the multi-million dollar subsidiary wasn’t more than just the salary this year (i.e., didn’t include the buyout as well) and the law suit fall out doesn’t amount to much…

how can anyone say it was a great trade?

I understand why we had to do it and had to do it now, the closer we got to Krod’s option vesting the less marginal value he had, his stock dropped every time we used him as a closer. The option vesting would be disastrous for the team financially, so in comparison to simply releasing him, we probably got the best deal we could.

But, it certainly makes the mets a weaker team at this moment, and, the cockeyed optimist in me was still pulling hard for a wildcard run. We traded something that had value for us right now but negative value later, for what everyone agrees is probably closer to a bag of baseballs than rickie weeks. No it doesnt mean we’re done, but it definitely makes it harder.

Sigh. I hate this trade, it’s totally just a necessary move to save money. I hate that it’s our team that had to this, I hate that this is what the Mets have come to.

He seems to have major power potential at least. We need some more outfield depth if we are going to trade Beltran, and now with Kirk N. possibly facing shoulder surgery, and Bay being Bay we are looking really thin there for next year.

In many cases, the two teams agree on a list of five or ten players from which the team receiving the PTBNLs(the Mets, in this instance) can select anyone.

I was really psyched for about 10 seconds until I re-read it.