Friday Morning Applesauce: Mets Drop Series Finale, Wilpons Future Looking Brighter, David Wright May Return Tonight
Yesterday was in all likelihood the last time we'll ever see Carlos Beltran wearing a Mets home uniform. Unfortunately the Mets dropped the game to the Cardinals 6-2. This was a strange game throughout, and fittingly featured Gary, Keith, and Ron doing part of the broadcast from the Pepsi porch. I think they just wanted a better look at Carlos in case it's his last time manning the outfield at Citi. Also in right field news, a fan manged to elude security after he rushed onto the field yesterday. If that were a Philly fan, he'd have posed such an inherent risk that he'd need to be tased. Luckily for us, Mets fans aren't known for being the worst in America.
The Daily News seems to have caught on to the idea that Carlos Beltran is not only good, but a valuable trade chip as well. It's funny how the MSM are seeming to come around to him now that his days in Queens are probably in the single digits. The Times even questions whether we should bring him back next season.
In the other major Mets news of the day, the Plaintiffs in the Wilpons Bernie Madoff lawsuit have dropped the damages claim against them. This doesn't get the Wilpons out of hot water completely, but the lawsuit is looking good for the worst case scenario just got a whole lot better. That's probably one of the key reasons that nobody seems to know what's really going on with the minority stake of the team that's up for sale.
Here's a quick look ahead at the upcoming Marlins series. Luckily for us, it appears we might have David Wright back for this one.
Here's a quick look at some top players that were acquired as prospects at the trade deadline. Clearly we all hope the return for Beltran will make a list like that someday.
While Patrick Flood had a quick and dirty look at Mike Pelfrey yesterday, he addresses concerns about his velocity today.
Izzy has stated that he doesn't want to be traded, but he seems to realize it may happen and doesn't seem opposed to returning to the Cardinals.
Around the NL East:
The Phillies have added former Met reliever Aaron Heilman on a minor league deal.
The Nationals filled the void created on the middle reliever market by Hielman's signing by releasing Chad Gaudin.
The Braves won an extra inning affair with the Rockies last night. Freddie Freeman and Jason Heyward both homered in that one.
The Marlins were swept by the Padres yesterday, the game had a pretty awful looking incident involving Orlando Hudson. On the more positive front, more details were revealed about the new stadium they will be moving into.
Around MLB:
The Indians Grady Sizemore will be out for the next several weeks. It creates more of a need for Mr. Beltran there, but it's hard to say if they'll still be buyers after the injury.
Lookout Landing takes a closer look at the evolution of Sabermetrics. It's an interesting read, regardless of your take on it.
At the amateur level, the use of metal bats has suffered another setback. I can't imagine it will be too long before all levels of baseball abandon the ping in favor of the crack.
Two new suspects have been arrested in the opening day beating of Bryan Stow. I imagine there will be repercussions involving Giovanni Ramirez.
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we missused him
starter material
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 22, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They did overwork him
He was above average for 2 seasons.
can't agree with you
he tried to make it as a SP with AZ and they did the same, put him in the pen
but I get the feeling his best appearances will be at Citifield
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 22, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s going to be the key piece coming back to the mets when we send beltran to philly
by brodeur hearts avery on Jul 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I liked Heilman
In ‘05 he was worth 2.2 wins and had an xFIP of 3.36. I’ll take the numbers from a middle reliever all day long. He was really very consistent for us until that awful ’08. With Relievers I think the bad games are always the most memorable, you never remember the clean 1-2-3 innings. My memories of Franco are nothing but blown saves and yet his numbers show he was a pretty consistent closer. I have the same memories of Wagner but again, the numbers show he was all in all very effective for us.
Maybe it's just me, but this "fans invading the field" has gotten old.
The crowd cheers and all, but besides the attention whoring and delaying the game, it’s just stupid.
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
Sorry, is it grammatically incorrect? If so, my bad.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gotten
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gotten
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
No, it's grammatically cromulent
I just think it’s always been shitty for fans to run on the field.
Not exactly the same, but
When did it become unacceptable to storm the field after a big win?
by pologroundling on Jul 22, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That was during the game.
Did you mean to say “when did it become acceptable”?
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The Unwritten Rules of AA
No, I mean something different from the fans running on during the game.
I cruelly changed topics. I mean like back in the footage from after the ‘69 World Series when all the fans were storming the field after the game. When did it stop being OK to do that? I think it’s always been stupid to charge the field during a game, though perhaps not as illegal.
by pologroundling on Jul 22, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
This went out some time in the late '80s/early '90s, as far as I can recall
But I’d be interested to see if there’s better documentation about this.
Yes, But...
…it gives AA a chance to bash Philly in a comical fashion!
by EastFallowfield on Jul 22, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
It doesn’t take much of an excuse
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Giovanni Ramirez was exonerated of the charges
But I think he is still being held because of some parole violation.
Wow the Wilpons just avoided a $700M or more death blow
I believe the worst they can so now is $300M, which is what they were prepared to settle for in the first place. Einhorn’s $200M covers most of that, if its even needed any more.
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I am very sorry but you are all misreading this article
It Does NOT say that Picard is dropping the damages case against the Wilpons. What is says is that he is backing away from pursuing damages against UBS in a related claim and that may be a sign that he is retreating overall and the Wilpons could ultimitly benefit. But that is not the same thing by a long shot as dropping the claims agaisnt the Wilpons. Not sure why so many seem to be misreading this.
Headline of the fanshot was "Holy crap, the Wilpons won !!!"
Mob mentality ensues
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
No it doesn't
It says they dropped the damages portion of the claim, which is exactly what the article says happened. The suit is still alive and well minus the largest portion of the overall lawsuit.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
that is not what it says
That is what the headline suggests but not the article itself
so were not gonna get einhorn to save us?
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 22, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The headline of the fanshot says that
because fanshots are the voice of the people, and can go to the central issue without regard for journalistic niceties.
I’ll take you through it. First, the bankruptcy judge pulled the Wilpons’ case into his court. This made things look quite good for the Wilpons (because apparently what could happen in a normal court and what could happen in a bankruptcy court are very different – like, $300 million vs. 1 billion different – but I’m no lawyer). Next, Picard realizes that the best case he was trying to achieve isn’t going to be successful, what with the bankruptcy judge interfering, so he says, okay, I’ll deal.
Ergo: Wilpons win!!
People are misreading it because the headline of the article is intentionally misleading
Trustee in Madoff case drops damages claim involving Mets ownership
Kind of stupid to say that a claim “involving Mets ownership” was dropped when that’s not really what the article says.
sorry I disagree
your exact statement was “the Plaintiffs in the Wilpons Bernie Madoff lawsuit have dropped the damages claim against them” The logical assumption is that them refers to the Wilpons (if it did not you needed to clarify that) when it fact the claim has not been dropped against the Wilpons, it has been dropped against UBS. And that is what the article says although I admit it is not the best or most clearly written piece. It is the New York Post after all. But I respectfully suggest you got it wrong as did the the other poster.
of course it could be that the Post is wrong and the claim was dropped against the Wilpons as well
But don’t you think that would have been picked up as front page news in the Times and the Journal?
ping v crack
wasnt the whole idea of using metal bats was that they were safer than wooden bats because they dont break and splinter and impale little leaguers with deadly shards of wood? i dont know what the optimal time to switch from metal to wood is, but my guess is the safest strategy for someone’s kid is to not let them play baseball. also never get in a car, ever.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I have no problem with other people's children being kept in a plastic bubble in their basement.
You know, as long as they get fed and stuff.
by pologroundling on Jul 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Metal bats aren't used because they're safer
They’re used because they’re cheaper.
Wooden bats need to be constantly replaced. Metal bats last a long time.
by Gary From The East End on Jul 22, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Line-up
With Wright back, do you favor Murphy at first, Turner at 2nd? Or have Murphy at second, where i think he should begin year next year as starter with Ike at first, and start Duda/Evans or some combo at first for now.
I dunno, I haven’t had a chance to pay much attention recently. Swamped at work.
I think Murph at 1st
Turner at 2nd
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
I'd Duda to get some starts still
He’s pretty much their hottest hitter right now, while Turner has just been puttering along. Wouldn’t mind seeing Dude at 1st and Murph at 2nd vs. certain righthanded pitching.
*like to see Duda get some starts
reply fail.
Neither Murphy nor Duda should be sitting on the bench at all anymore
Bench and playing time should be split between Bay and Turner, effectively. And play Evans or Hairston occasionally against lefties, much more if/when Beltran is traded.
duda and turner should be platooning at 1b and 2b...with murph switching between the two positions
So against lefties…murph plays first and turner plays second. Against righties duda plays first, murph plays second.
This would be optimal, IMO
by Mike Clemente on Jul 22, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Great applesauce Stephen! You guys really came out of the gates hard and fast with great write ups!
" If that were a Philly fan, he’d have posed such an inherent risk that he’d need to be tased. " As far as I am concerned every Philthy fan that turns up at Citi should be tazed bro.
Just parking in our lot, travelling on our trains or thinking about turning up at our park is cause for excessive electrical behavior therapy.
As for Yankee fans…shoot every last one of the fuckers.
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Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget
by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 22, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions

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