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Mets 8, Reds 2: Life Goes On

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At game time, the Carlos Beltran trade was complete in every sense but the official one. That meant the Mets could obviously not insert him in the starting lineup, but they couldn't call up anyone to take his roster spot, either. As if to further emphasize the gaping hole Beltran will leave, the Mets were forced to play with only 24 men on Wednesday night.

But if anyone seemed unnerved by Beltran's departure, it was Bronson Arroyo. Mike Francesa's favorite pitcher, who routinely dominates the Mets at least once a year and who had not lost to the Amazins since 2007, looked shaky early on. Jose Reyes opened things up with an infield single. Two outs later, David Wright singled. Both runners moved up a base on a passed ball, then scored on an Angel Pagan double into the right field corner, giving the Mets a 2-0 lead.

Mike Pelfrey has been an enigma this season, to say the least. He's shown little effectiveness on the road and an infuriating propensity to extend at-bats no matter where he's pitching. In Cincinnati of all places, Pelfrey seemed to find a groove that eluded him all year. He not only pitched well, but efficiently, limiting baserunners, getting a good deal of groundouts, and not logging the endless, hair-pulling foul ball parades he is known for. Granted, the Reds are not exactly playing crisp baseball these days, if this series is any indication. Regardless, it was an encouraging performance from a pitcher in desperate need of one.

Through the first seven innings, the lone blemish on Pelfrey's record was a solo "homer" by Joey Votto in the bottom of the fourth, which looked like a harmless fly out to left when it came off his bat. A Great American Ball Park Special to be sure (not be confused with a Yankee Stadium Job or a Citizen's Bank Park Order), but Votto hits plenty of moonshots, so I will not bust his chops for this cheapie (even though I kinda just did).

Undaunted by this bit of bad luck, the Mets padded their lead immediately in the top of the fifth. Pelfrey of all people led things off with a single (usually, his futility at the plate reminds me of the bad old days of Al Leiter swinging a bat in vain). He was erased when Reyes bounced into a fielder's choice, but the speedy shortstop soon stole second and kept on going to third when Ryan Hanigan's throw scooted past the bag. After a walk to Willie Harris, Daniel Murphy sent a flare to right field that Jay Bruce dove for and missed, allowing Reyes to score and Harris to go to third. David Wright followed with a sac fly to right that scored Harris, giving the Mets a 4-1 lead.

The Mets tacked on further in the top of the sixth with line drive solo shot from Lucas Duda (much like Votto's, a homer that wouldn't have been one elsewhere), then blew the game open in the seventh. (I can't remember the last time I typed those words.) Reliever Jose Arredondo walked Harris to start the inning, then Murphy hit a hard shot to first that Votto could not backhand, and Wright followed with an old school Wright homer. Arredondo threw a low 1-0 fastball that Wright crouched to reach and lifted into straight-away center for a three-run bomb, putting the Mets up 8-1.

Pelfrey was victimized slightly in the bottom of the seventh when Duda misplayed a Bruce hit in the right-field corner into a triple. Bruce scored on a Chris Heisey sac fly to shave a run off the Mets' lead, but was of little consequence. Big Pelf got the third out, negotiated the eighth with little trouble, and worked around a leadoff double by Votto in the ninth, retiring the next three batters to log his second complete game of the season.

I'm sure there are many players in the Mets' clubhouse who feel just as down about the Beltran trade as fans do. No matter how much it will help the team in the future, the deal does bring with it a sense of defeat and resignation, for an era and a season. When the last out was made, you could see the on field congratulations were more subdued, almost solemn, like the hugs you'd exchange with family members after going to a wake. They were congratulating each other, more than anything, for getting through this. But it was good to see the team get down to business rather than get down on themselves.

Carlos goes to the Bay and probably the playoffs. The Mets go two games above .500 with two months left in the season. Life goes on.

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Big winners: Mike Pelfrey, +21.5%, Angel Pagan, +14.9%
Big losers: Jason Bay, -6.3%, Ronnie Paulino, -3.9%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Angel Pagan two-run double, top first, +16.4%
Teh sux0rest play: Joey Votto solo homer, bottom fifth, -11.6%
Total pitcher WPA: +21.5%
Total batter WPA: +28.1.5%
GWRBI!:Daniel Murphy RBI double, top fifth

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by NetsMets4Life; their effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 NetsMets4Life 155
2 CTRefJay 134
3 fxcarden 134
4 MetsFan4Decades 99
5 aparkermarshall 83
6 Terry_is_God 72
7 santana9237 69
8 astromets 62
9 Evan_S 57
10 BurleighGrimes 56

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expected big things from David when he came back

am not surprised by his production thus far. hopefully, it’s a full-fledged return to 2007-08 MVP form.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Still in mourning.

But….Pelf pitched a hellava ballgame, go figure. He was one of the most vocal right before he left, with voicing his opinion on wishing he could stay. Many commented ‘yeah, maybe if you had pitched better’. Go figure. The BP thanks you though, Mike.

David Wright picking up the slack?
Murph continues to quietly hit.
Duda with a HR, which was good to see but I’m really worried about his defense out there. I’m thinking if he continues to hit you’ll see him out in RF most times in the early innings and Pridie his defensive replacement.

Let’s get the sweep tomorrow.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jul 27, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

A rare stress-free Pelfrey win.

I really like this this crew, even without Carlos.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Jul 27, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHA

Beautiful.

The 2011 New York Mets: Limit the Damage

by CTRefJay on Jul 27, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderful

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody knows us to well

Great win for Sandy & Co.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

what band is this?

I have to know!

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by The Glider on Jul 28, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big losers: Jason Bay

man, haven't seen that before

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 27, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Very satisfying win

considering how much Arroyo had frustrated Mets hitters and fans over the years by dominating the Mets. The Mets for once got to Arroyo tonight. Mike Pelfrey another source of frustration was excellent. He cruised most of the night had good bite on his pitches, didn’t have elongated at bats and got ground balls. We all know about Pelf’s struggles on the road, so this start was even more impressive. This was likely Pelf’s second or third best start behind his starts vs the Angels a month or so ago and his start vs the Giants in May. What more can you say about Murph? The guy continues to get great swings and drill the ball into the gap. He is likely to get 40+ doubles. I would like to see him draw more walks, but otherwise he continues to play great baseball. Nice to see Duda hitting another homer and flashing that power. He looked like a lost and overwhelmed earlier this year, but he’s turned it around and has had a monster July. Speaking of turning it around since returning- How bout David Wright? He is standing closer to the plate and hitting the ball with authority to RF. He looks like the old David Wright and that’s awesome to see. This team continues to play their heart out and show resilience and not mope after a guy like Beltran is impressive. You can contrast that with the Reds who are in better position to get into the playoffs because of the division they’re in and they look like a team that’s playing out the string. This team is really reminding me of the 97 and ’05 teams and is so much fun to watch.

by graves9 on Jul 27, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

This team is really reminding me of the 97 and ’05 teams and is so much fun to watch.

Awesome, I can’t wait for the next 2 seasons of epic heartbreak

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 28, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well for the most part

epic heartbreak is what we get as a Mets fans.

by graves9 on Jul 28, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are really lucky to have Wright back.

If we had traded Beltran in a season where Wright was gone for the season things would have got really, really, ugly.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

though Jose would have won a bunch of games on his own, like many times in the first half

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we are very fortunate that this is the season that Reyes has become MVP caliber.

Moar injuries.

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by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad it didnt happen next season

on another team

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I wish we had Ike, though.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Ike Davis Dog

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by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

NetsMets4Life is multiple people? whoa, my mind just got blown

Nice job by NetsMets4Life; their effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

It seems MetsFan4Decades and her multiple embiggening titles confused a few people.

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by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my coworkers harps on the point

that using they or their to be gender-neutral is not grammatically correct

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of your coworkers is a bit of a pedantic fussbudget

(And I say this as a member of the same tribe.) People have been using “they” as a rough-and-ready way to get a gender-neutral pronoun in English for many, many centuries.

by anonymous on Jul 28, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

he or she

sounds pretty lame

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– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Jul 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been hiding a deep, dark secret.

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cartman's dad IS his mom.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Alderaan?

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brilliant

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

31-25 on the road, 22-26 at home

Story of the Mets’ season.

Also, what a game by Pelf. To shut down that offense in that park is really, really impressive. Why can’t he do this more often?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

he is

not a winnar. Da mind games from da big New Yawk City lites make it impawsebl for him to c past his big tung, so he stahts lickin his hands and his feet untils he waxe up ande the Metsies have lawst

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he waz 2 buzy lookeing at dat Bum Beltwrongs mole

nomah Beltran, nomah mole, nomah problems for Pelf

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year, the Mets were money at home and awful on the road

obviously, this means they will be world beaters no matter where they play next season.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran?

We don’t need no stinking Beltran!

But seriously, love the trade, but miss the ’tron!

by AnthonyR on Jul 27, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard St. Lucie.

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would expect him to make a few starts in Bing

at the end of their season, right? He seems ready for that step up. The fact that he is posting the numbers that he is in such a hitter friendly league is very encouraging

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may want him to work on his command in St Lucie.

Those BB/9 are ugly and it sounds like he needs to work on his changeup, along with making his curve more consistent. I don’t see the point in rushing him up to Binghamton this year. Let him do that in the PSL and then see where he is at come spring training.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 28, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beltran didn't live up to his potential

We didn’t win a World Series so he’s a disappointment.

Cause the three years we were good he was surrounded by who in the outfield? Endy, Church an injured Alou, Nady and Shawn Green. Seriously, how can you win not winning a World Series on one guy?

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sucks for Beltran

as great as he was as a Met, you know he is more pissed that the Mets didn’t win a WS and only made the playoffs once than he is happy about his great numbers

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Then he should have swung

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't argue with that

everyone knew a curveball was coming, WHAT A BUM

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think that pitch was outside

and possibly high. I’ll take Beltran’s eye over one of these umps anyday.

by David G on Jul 28, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially with that count, in that situation, in that game..

that should have been a ball. and yes, Carlos has a great eye at the plate

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by Terry_is_God on Jul 28, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to make a point

With this logic, Piazza is as big a failure as a Met as Beltran was. And Piazza only had a 24.6 WAR while Beltran had 32.1 in 300 less plate appearances

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

:(!

Don’t use Piazza and failure in the same sentence. Unless it is that previous sentence or this: Piazza never was a failure.

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a failure,

But anyone who says Beltran never lived up to the potential, or was a failure as a Met has to say the same of Piazza.

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Piazza didnt blow a WS

Closer failure
Timo Failure
Roid rage beaning failure

No Piazza Failure

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

After being beaned by a 98mph heater.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four months earlier?

I don’t know what you’re point is. All I’m saying is that blaming Piazza for us not winning a World Series while he was here is as stupid as blaming Beltran, and vice versa.

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could use Piazza now

who cares if he couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher, he would be hitting more than Thole at this point. He needs to get his act together

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats overblown.

His throw out % got lower as he aged but in his last season with the Mets he was more successful throwing out base stealers than Posada.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I hated arguing with Yankee fans who clamored over Posada and said they would always prefer Posada to Piazza because of superior throwing – he wasn’t much better, if at all, and it wasn’t exploited by many teams anyway, AND Piazza’s superior bat and good receiving skills were all any team could ask for. Posada may have carved out a HOF career based on postseason performance, longevity and a number of big moments, but at the time he was a nobody compared to Piazza

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rubin

AdamRubinESPN Adam Rubin
Mets calling up Mike Nickeas, but they may not be allowed to activate him until Friday.

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would they do this unless they plan on trading Paulino?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they are shipping Paulino to SF also? Or somewhere else like Atlanta?

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't imagine it's Atlanta

as MCCann is only supposed to be out two weeks and Ross is better than Paulino.

by graves9 on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah its just a hunch

I thought I heard though that they might look for a catcher.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't root for injury

but McCann being out for a little longer would be really helpful

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not Atlanta

but it has to be somewhere else, there is no need to carry three catchers and I doubt Sandy found someone who wants Thole. On the other hand, if he did, I will commence building a shrine to him immediatly

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by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

New plan

Thole at SS, Reyes pitching

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like it

fuck its, let’s do it live

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You can't explain that.

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by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure can

just quoting bill o’reilly at his finest. rec’d

...And Dickey pounds Poo-Holes inside

by davein2d on Jul 28, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played sir

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-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

2011 Mets: At this point, what the hell?

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I wouldn't read too much into it

they have carried three catchers before and pretty much every other logical candidate is either not eligible (Evans, Baxton) or injured (Kirk, Lutz, etc).

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Just seems to me like Nickeas is the best short-term bat they could think of to add to the roster.

by anonymous on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get Evans, needs 10 days in the minors

why not Baxton? Wish Satin was on the 40 man roster

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's in the same boat as Evans

assigned to the minors, needs 10 days there

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't get why (BTW, it is Baxter)

we got him from another teams minor leagues and then we reassigned him to Buffalo from St. Lucie after a couple of games. I guess it is just a situation I had not yet encountered and learned about

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because they demoted him to the minor leagues when they acquired him.

A player needs to be in the minors for 10 days after demotion (unless an injury occurs on the ML roster).

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

because he ended last year in the majors and was on rehab? or he was claimed off waivers?

that is the point I don’t get, he was already in the minors and in high-A for 11 games.

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by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was on the 60 Day DL which is a part of the ML roster.

He was in the minors on rehab assignment at the time, so technically he was in the majors and not using an option.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem.

It’s all very confusing.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 28, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joel Sherman speaking truth

If #Mets were in NL Central they would have been buyers, not sellers #redslooklikefakecontenders

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The man for once speaks sense

The fact is, we’ve gone to Milwaukee, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh and not done badly at all

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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The joke is

that we just took 3 of 4 from Cincy at home, and they’re the ones who are in a playoff race.

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lobby no divisions

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we might actually see realignment

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be in favour of that

I wanna play the Phillies the same amount of times as everyone else

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems legit

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-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's one great thing about most European soccer leagues

Everyone plays everyone home and away.

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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philly isn't even that good a team like Boston and NYY

once you get past Halladay. Lee and Hamels are great but not world-beaters, Vance Worley is lucky, and their lineup is average. they’ve just had the Mets number since 2007.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's absurd

You can’t just ignore their top 3 starters, who happen to be 3 of the best pitchers in baseball.

Yeah, their lineup is average or below it, but their pitching more than makes up for it.

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The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And didn't BP do a study

And find in the playoffs having great pitching usually means you win?

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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

playoffs are a crap-shoot.

people like to point to the Giants for pitching = winz but seem to forget Philly had a great rotation as well (Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels) plus the second best offense by runs scored in the NL.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think BP looked at about 100 years of data

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by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are a crap-shoot

but having great talent (especially in the rotation) definitely helps.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess what I meant to say is

shouldn’t be clamoring to leave the division based on one year of play. Their top 3 is great but that’s all they got going for them moving forward. and those guys are all getting old (not Hamels).

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are the best staff in modern baseball history

besides 90s Braves.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That's why they have the best record in the National League, luck

I mean, I hate those bastards, but they’re good.

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-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

no question. I had a wrong choice of words and voiced my opinion the wrong way

Philly is a great team but I don’t think it will last for them, especially considering the (incredible) performances they have gotten out of their top 3 plus Vance Worley. they’d be hard pressed to repeat it next year. I don’t consider the Mets to be in a Tampa Bay/Toronto/Baltimore position where they gotta beg for a realignment

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, probably not

Especially since Howard is getting way overpaid.
But I don’t think it’s fair that we have to play the AL Wild Card, NL Wild Card and NL East leaders more than everyone in the West and Central (and the rest of our division)

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

interleague is a whole other can of worms

but I do agree for realignment. I just don’t think the Mets should be used as a team that suffers because of an uneven strength of schedule, because they should be up in that list too but terrible management by Omar and crew have set the team back years.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

“once you get past Halladay”

Thats not easy, and neither are Lee or Hamels. Even though we own him.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee and Hamels are sort of world beaters

They’re both top 10 pitchers in baseball. The thing with the Phils, against a good team, if their pitching falters, their offense can’t make up the difference.

by Evan_S on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one does.

Except MSM

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want the Phillies near the World Series

Go Beltran’s Giants!

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, that is just...so...so

masculine, no homo-erotica here.

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

My eyes....They burn!

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well this just makes sense

if we are competing against everyone who is not in first place for a wild card spot, then shouldn’t we play everyone the same amount of times? Interleague included

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

12.30pm

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamit, really?

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get away day game

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yay!

5 minutes of my grission sleep

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mets are #5 in the NL according to third-order wins

behind the Cards, Reds, Braves, and Phillies. fractions of a win behind the first 3, 8 behind Philly. but of course, this game isn't played on paper

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarcasm fuck up

*behind the Cards, Reds, Braves, and Phillies

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Steve Somers, and why does he look like a rapist?

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

this

and he has a great voice for what he does

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?
stevesomerswfan Steve Somers
…Not going to miss Carlos Beltran one bit…Couldn’t even take the bat off his shoulder..

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Traid Somers

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaand
stevesomerswfan Steve Somers
…There’s no hiding or denying…the fire sale is on…krod first…beltran up next…then reyes…the mets, a big market team????

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is someones fake account

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah it's him

his producers confirmed it.

by graves9 on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously??

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks legit and there a re legit people following him

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If its real, he posts some weird shit

stevesomerswfan Steve Somers

What an outing for Bartolo Colon, the man with more chin’s than a chinese phone book, what!

stevesomerswfan Steve Somers
…on in 15 minutes. the coffee is brewing, the armpits are sweaty, just like old times, what is it?
2 Jun
stevesomerswfan Steve Somers
The Mets are almost as big of a tease as my wife, what is it! Good fight tonight, but we need to finish the deal.

by KaaMets on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, maybe it is fake.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

all sounds about right for Steve Somers though

if not him then someone who listens to him

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philly fans showing their true colors.

They’re pouting, or scared. A comment on BL post game thread after their loss tonight:

’Here’s the p-game thread for tomorrow’s game:’

“Phils get beat by a hippy, but at least Kendrick drills Beltran in the ribs with a universally unforeseen 110 mph fastball.”
***********

Stay classy, Philly fans.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Why read Beerleaguer? The people who comment there are just as stupid if not more than Metsblog commenters

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just peruesing

some Philly blogs to see what their reaction is to the Beltran trade.

They’re all trying to convince themselves this doesn’t make the Giants chances of getting to post season or beating them out – like last year – any better.

Highly entertaining.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're just not good people

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

never were

never will be

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super selfish, via Ken Davidoff

Carlos Beltran spent $7,587 on his #Mets farewell dinner Tuesday night. Plus $93.69 on Perrier..

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

He's just

flashing the cash, selfish prick

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not what Beltran actually spent

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rubin is reprting thats bull

RUBIN LOBBY THAT HE WAS AT DINNER

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is an awfully accurate account

how the hell did he get that number?

Am I doing this right?

by brooklynberger on Jul 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The register at McDonalds displays the price

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Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, there are some really greedy people up here.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

#selfishbeltran

didn't buy us dinner

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's still sticking by his preseason predictions, I see.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYI- Davidoff makes a DAILY “funny” reference to his preseason predictions for Met (75-87) and Yankee (93-69) records. Most of his references are not funny at all, this one not so bad.

Level swing, nice follow through and a couple of ribeye steaks.

by joenunz on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow that's pathetic.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Jul 27, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I don’t think he goes a day without mentioning it. It’s annoying. He thinks it’s cute. It’s really not.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Jul 28, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's super annoying

especially since this is the second season he’s done it

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 28, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm finally tearing up about Beltran.

Gonna definitely miss him

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

.

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

possible name change?

Duda’s gigantism?
Turner’s freckle?

Am I doing this right?

by brooklynberger on Jul 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

JosesDreads

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably since my real name

Because I’m part of a blog here, and an editor.
But I might go for EvansInvisibleness

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I requested a name change

I’m keeping my Twitter handle as the same though

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 28, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should have lead with something more upbeat.

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But it also features the Phillies losing.

That’s a positive.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 28, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other news, MLB acknowledges that last nights call was blown.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

And the shy is blue

Dickey is all knowing, all seeing
real estate agents suck
Clemens used roids.

Anything else they want to declare?

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was the 11th commandment

Thou shalt favor the Skankees in all and any situations where the small market teams can be beaten.

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

jeter

has an edge

Am I doing this right?

by brooklynberger on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

Totally

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

You KNOW he's got an edge

by BurleighGrimes on Jul 28, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't even joke about that

make me sick

#blamebeltranfornothittingjeterwithabat

by Shevshevy on Jul 28, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Murph now 3rd in batting, 2nd in doubles, top ten in hits.

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

by dsteak on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally unsung hero

Still going to be a butcher at 2B, but if he hits .320, no one cares

by AnthonyR on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s only made 2 errors at second this year in 93 touches (23 games). i’ll admit he’s an adventure, strange things seem to happen to him, but i think if he sticks with one position for a whole year he’ll be ok.

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

by dsteak on Jul 27, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is an important thing

that he gets to stick at some position for a long time. He has been at first for a lot of his ML career (58.4% of his innings), and he looks good and comfortable over there. I want to put him some place where he can stay and start for good. We got people with better potential coming up, so he is probably going to end up traded as this team is getting real good.

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Jul 27, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murph is actually pretty good all over the infield

a bit below average at 2B maybe — not enough innings to accurately judge him. but he’s looked good in the IF. he’s turning into quite the utility man, like a poor man’s Ben Zobrist

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

His best position is 1st

He’s the insolvent man’s Ben Zobrist

by AnthonyR on Jul 27, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he plays competently at 3 IF positions

his best position may be 1B (debatable; he gets the most time there because the team needs it that way), but he plays a good enough 3B and 2B to not hurt the team. he’s a manager’s best friend.

by theamato on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

people forget that he had 38 doubles 2 years ago, mostly after he moved to 1st after the left field experiment.

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

by dsteak on Jul 28, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching ESPN

bottom scroll said Beltran accepted the trade and is on his way to Philly.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, yeah

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43916846/

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT: just looking through minor league box scores

noticed a kid named Rafael Montero, has been pretty fantastic. Google doesn’t seem to have anything on this kid. Anybody know anything about him?

by robotoverlord on Jul 28, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

How did I get on the embiggening list

even though I only watched 1/3 of the game?

That’s poor AA, that’s poor.

by BurleighGrimes on Jul 28, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Bucs Dugout is upset that Beltran "blew them off"

“he’s a jerk anyway.”
“buck feltran”
“hope he tears his ACL lol”

Wow, so I guess all of Pennsylvania lacks class?

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Pennsylvania

A state with problems. For real.

by BurleighGrimes on Jul 28, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'd give them a pass on this one.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Jul 28, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Average teams, average Pennsylvanian fans

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Jul 28, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have a good one.

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brian Wilson is happy that Beltran is Giant.

shocker

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

From McCovey Chronicles...

I learned today that Sandy Alderson is a fantastic General Manager
Owlcroft wuz rite.

Makes me happy.

Mets, Devils, Jets, Knicks
Follow me on Twitter: @ZachandKovy917
Dickey be Praised!

by santana9237 on Jul 28, 2011 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Acclaim Alderson

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 28, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Praise be to Alderson

It is proper to praise him

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something to root for: Beltran leading SF over the Phillies in the NL playoffs and then beating the Evil Empire

in the World Series.Beltran trade could be the gift that keeps on giving.Good trade for both teams.

by Putnan Prince on Jul 28, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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