Friday morning applesauce: Mets sweep Reds, Santana rehabs, Harvey stifles Harper
The Mets completed a rare four game road sweep yesterday at the Great American Ballpark, outslugging the Reds by a score of 10-9. While much of the build up to the game focused on who wasn't going to be starting in right field, the guy who was had himself another pretty nice night. The Mets now head to Washington for a weekend series with the Nationals.
Speaking of the Nationals, the B-Mets were on the road playing the Nats AA affiliate Harrisburg Senators last night. The game featured Nationals top prospect Bryce Harper and Mets top prospect Matt Harvey which surely would be a fun matchup to watch. Harvey struck out Harper twice and induced a weak groundout to first as part of a dominating performance in which he struck out ten total. Watching Harvey and new farmhand Zack Wheeler will be an awful lot of fun going forward. BTW, according to Wheeler's twitter account it looks like he's planning for a Monday debut in St. Lucie.
Also on the farm, Johan Santana made a start for St. Lucie yesterday. He only threw 33 pitches total, and today will probably tell us more about his shoulder than how he fared against some kids. As long as he's healthy it will be awful nice to see him again this season. His proximity to a return makes me curious to see if the Mets would consider flipping Chris Capuano if the right deal was to come along in the next several days.
In yesterday's applesauce Patrick Flood had done some pondering about what we could expect in a return if Beltran was traded. Since the trade, Flood takes a closer look at what we received to determine if it was enough for the Mets. Joel Sherman seems to think the return was enough, and he thinks Alderson was wise to target a team who doesn't care much for advanced statistics.
Some Beltran tribute pieces started to come out yesterday, and several of them were worth reading. Deadspin had a good read, and Bob Klapisch even went so far as to praise his unsung leadership. I wish the MSM had done a better job of appreciating the guy when he was actually wearing Blue and Orange (although it really made me smile to see he still had that color scheme on his cleats last night).
We gave you a few Zack Wheeler scouting reports yesterday, today I'll have two more for you. John Sickels gave a brief update after the trade on where Wheeler stands in his eyes. Toby Hyde gave a slightly more detailed analysis of Wheeler on his blog.
Around the NL East:
The Phillies were clearly so overawed by the mere presence of the shellfish one that they lost to the Giants yet again. I've got my fingers crossed that Ruben Amaro's overreaction to that series will include trading the farm for Hunter Pence.
The Braves also lost yesterday, not having enough at the plate to defeat the Pirates. The loss combined with the Mets win cuts the Mets to 6.5 games out of the wild card. The Braves also appear willing to make a dent in their farm system to add a bat, although I doubt Frank Wren is as likely as Amaro to trade top tier guys.
The Nats and the Marlins squared off again, with the Marlins again defeating the Nats by a 5-2 margin. Emilio Bonafacio extended his hitting streak to 26 in this one.
Around MLB:
Beltran may have said no to the Indians, but the Tribe still managed to add a bat. I really wish Harry Caray had been around to call a few Fukudome games.
Jerry Meals mistake may have flown under the radar a little with the no-hitter and trades that occured yesterday, but the league has still admitted it was a bad call. If either the Braves win the wild card or the Pirates lose the division by a single game I can only imagine what the instant replay debate will look like.
Former Yankee Hideki Irabu was found dead yesterday. As poor as he was for the Yankees, he'll always be remembered by them thanks to some comments from the boss.
Finally, Joe Posnanski takes an excellent look at Barry Bonds before he became the incredible hulk. I found the comparisons to Griffey especially interesting, but that's why Joe is the best in the business.
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I just realized
Wheeler’s arrival to St. Lucie will be alongside Santana
I don’t know how much they would interact, but I think it would be pretty cool to play alongside an allstar….maybe get some tips on his changeup
I’m excited and hope to see him and Harvey at the front of our rotation soon
pick up a game or 2 on the braves this weekend
Then that series with them could have a 1999 feel to it
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 29, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Harper
I think he’s being rushed a bit. They promoted him to AA just as he was coming back down to earth in A ball. And now he’s struggling in AA. He’s only 18, so it’s not really a big deal if he’s struggling at AA. Just think they could’ve let him experience Class A a bit longer to learn how to overcome the inevitable slump.
He skipped A+ right?
Because the Nationals didn’t like the field conditions of the A+ team I think. He pretty much destroyed single A though, and small sample size in AA so far. Probably mishandled, but I don’t think it will matter much.
he did
Skip A+. He skipped rookie ball too to go straight to A ball. And he was destroying A ball…at first. He was batting .318/.423/.554/.977 but those numbers went down a bit before he got promoted. His batting average was like 40 points higher at one point. He was coming back down to earth when he got promoted. If they waited until he got hot again and sent him up, I think it would’ve made more sense.
Well, they denied it was about the field issues
But he did skip A+.
The war of words between Rizzo and the Potomac affiliate and the local government there is pretty priceless. Rizzo talked about the field conditions being pretty bad, and that did not go over very well. My favorite part are the comments from the chair of the PG County Board of Supervisors:
"Rizzo ought to focus on doing his job, which could probably use some improvement," Mr. Stewart said, voice shaking. "He’s talking out of his rear end. … He doesn’t know what’s happening because he didn’t bother to check.
"Frankly, he’s not a good manager. He’s received a lot of criticism for his performance for the job he should be doing. He should stick to the job he’s supposed to do instead of getting involved in something he doesn’t know about."
Real great relationship they’ve got going there.
I really don't get why
organizations rush some of these prospects. I mean I do understand- it’s about selling tickets, but even if there is the smallest risk that rushing a kid to the majors could impact his devolopment you would think they handle these prime assets with kid gloves. Harper has an incredably high ceiling and can provide elite calibre production for the Nats for years, why risk that even if it means keeping the kid on the farm for an extra year or two? I know that despite his age he is very well polished prospect and maybe the physical tools are there, but if only for his maturation and confidence it makes sense to bring him, or any prospect (especially the younger non-collegiate prospects) along slowly.
K-ROD
Anybody hear anything on the 2 PTBNL coming from the Brewers for K-Rod? Speculation in the media has been non-existent.
Might not happen until the off season.
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 29, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
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The Mets completed a rare four game road sweep yesterday at the Great American Ballpark
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that was the first 4-game sweep by the Mets in club history there?
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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
no its their first 4-game sweep vs. the Reds
they’ve had three or four other 4-game sweeps, can’t remember though-I was half-paying attention to Gary Cohen.
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by feslenraster on Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
either way
it could use a tad bit of cleaning up
but whatever, i’m picking nits I suppose.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe Gary was talking about 4 game sweeps on
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by Jsz on Jul 29, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid mobile
On the road* last one was 2006 in Arizona iirc.
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by Jsz on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a little new to following prospects
Has Wheeler been exclusively pitching in A ball? Would he most likely start next year in Double A?
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
by metsman07 on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's been pitching in Hi-A this year, which is actually a level above Lo-A
He’ll probably be in AA next year.
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Any chance he makes it to Bingo before seasons end?
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 29, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say almost none
He’s still walks a ton of guys, so until he sorts that out he’ll stay at A+.
i said in the beginning of the year, i’d be happy if the mets win 85 games, which is very feasible. however, if they win 2 or 3 this weekend, most will start talking wild card possibilities (which has already started on mlb network, shut the hell up).
i’m just glad they’re playing pretty good, my boy Murph is getting his AB’s and is having a nice year, Johann on the way back and hopefully will toe the rubber. lots to feel good about at the moment..
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Curt Schilling mentioned the Mets being in WC contention on Baseball Tonight as well.
Barry Larkin basically told him to stfu.
You can't see any way?
Braves injuries, Braves under performing, the Mets over performing. It’s not likely, but it could happen.
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see my above post
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 29, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lets say we make the wild card.
We will end up playing SF in the first round.
How will people feel about rooting against Beltran?
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jul 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
No choice.
Ideally, he’d have a good series, but the Giants still get swept.
if we make the playoffs
I would have not problem rooting against my own mother.
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Jul 29, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
should read "not have a problem"
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Jul 29, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all in the game
What's that about?
by Brian. on Jul 29, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
are you kidding?
put the Mets in the playoffs and i’ll root against the powers that be
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
id selfishly despise him for 5 games max
Then go back to missing him
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 29, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting point on trading Cap
he’s been struggling, so his stock may be going down a little. But they could promote Schwinden for a few weeks until Santana is hopefully ready. If not, you probably don’t lose a ton going from Cap to Schwinden, and maybe you get a C prospect with some upside for him.
Is he going to be a type B free agent?
Might be better off going with the pick
I don't see why Caps can't be a B free agent if Bruce Chen is
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by feslenraster on Jul 29, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
According to the Elias rankings they have at MLBTR the odds are about 0%
He’s not even in the top 75% of qualifying starting pitchers right now according to those rankings. Odds are that the compensation system will be tweaked this winter anyway with the expiring CBA.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 29, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions

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