The Seaver Curse
(Cross-posted from Fair and Unbalanced)
Since a ball went miraculously through Bill Buckner's weary legs to give the Mets the sixth game of the 1986 World Series, followed by a win the next night for the championship, being a Met fan has consisted of fleeting joy and exhilaration quickly overtaken by frustration and failure. For 25 years, if something could go wrong for the Mets it invariably has, which has led me to tackle the nagging question whether this is more than simply bad management and bad luck. Is there a curse?
1987 started with the great Met pitcher Dwight Gooden in drug rehab and 1988 ended with an excruciating loss to the Dodgers in the playoffs. After that, the Mets began dismantling the 1986 team, replacing iconic players like Len Dykstra, Darryl Strawberry and Mookie Wilson with spectacular underachievers like Juan Samuel, Bobby Bonilla and Vince Coleman (see Mets or Bust), who led the team to six losing seasons in a row. Then there were the injuries, like those in 1996, which felled three promising pitchers dubbed Generation K (Pulsipher, Isringhausen and Wilson) none of whom ever lived up to the hype.
Even after signing Mike Piazza in 1998, the team would consistently cause heartburn and heartbreak. The Mets lost their last five games in 1998 to miss the playoffs by one game and the next year lost to the Braves in the playoffs with Kenny Rogers walking in the winning run of the deciding game. The 2000s were not much better, starting with the crushing loss to the Yankees in the World Series (Armando Benitez, anyone?) followed by several mediocre seasons.
An exciting 2006 team reached the playoffs but lost a devastating final seventh game to the Cardinals. Two searing images from that game form the perfect post-1986 Met microcosm: Endy Chavez makes one of the most incredible game-saving catches ever in the post season in the 6th inning only to have Carlos Beltran strike out looking with the bases loaded three innings later to end the game. And since then, historic collapses to miss the playoffs, baffling player moves (e.g., Ollie Perez, Luis Castillo), an unprecedented number of injuries to star and potential star players, and entanglement with Bernie Madoff. I hate to even imagine what's next.
So have the Mets been cursed since 1986, and if so, by what?
And then I figured it out. Tom Seaver.
My childhood hero and one of the greatest pitchers in major league history. He was called "The Franchise" because of how central he was to the Mets' identity. Rookie of the Year, three-time Cy Young Award Winner and 9-time All Star. On June 15, 1977, after ten remarkable years with the Mets, he was traded in what was aptly called the "Midnight Massacre." The Mets penurious management refused to renegotiate his contract and shipped him off to the Cincinnati Reds. Seaver continued his great career (looking quite strange in a Reds uniform), and without him, the Mets played dismally.
But, then came some measure of redemption. Seaver was traded back to the Mets for the 1983 season. It was indescribable to see him pitch a shut out on Opening Day. After that he didn't have a great year -- and neither did the Mets -- but with Seaver wearing his familiar number 41, the Mets seemed like a team on the rise, with promising young pitchers, a Rookie of the Year in Darryl Strawberry, and the acquisition of Keith Hernandez.
But it was not to be. Incredibly, before the 1984 season began, the Mets left the 40-year old Seaver off the protected list, assuming no other team would want him. The White Sox quickly scooped him up, leaving Met fans distraught once again. Seaver won 15 games for the White Sox in 1984 and 16 in 1985, including his 300th. In 1986, he finished an injury-plagued season with the Red Sox. (A bad knee prevented him from playing against the Mets in the World Series.)
The Mets tried to atone once more, hoping to bring Seaver back to the Big Apple to finish his storied career where it began. But after pitching a few exhibition games in June 1987, Seaver realized he had nothing left and announced his retirement. And so Tom Seaver would not play again in New York.
The Mets traded him once, reacquired him only to let him go a second time, and when they tried to get him back for one last go round, it was too late. He retired, having played his last game in a Red Sox uniform, and when he hung up his spikes in 1987, the Seaver Curse began.
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Mookie would have beat Buckner to the bag even if he fielded it cleanly
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
I'm not sure about that
But the game was already tied so the “sure thing” Red Sox win had already been dashed then.
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by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2011 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions
from all replays I have seen
he looks like he would be safe anyway
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Yeah, I've always thought he would have been safe
Mookie has sad as much as well. And the game was tied anyway.
Mookie would have been safe
True, but Knight would not have scored on the play. With the game tied, who knows what would have happened next.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Why the would the curse arbitrarily start after the Mets won the series in ‘86? Wouldn’t it have started when they let Seaver go before ’84?
Not to mention that curses don’t exist.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 13, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ah.
Well then, forget everything I just wrote up there.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 13, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta read up on your voodoo, bro.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would Seaver curse the Mets, his favorite team, the one he identifies with most?
Who else would be cursing the Mets for trading Seaver, also? His mom, maybe?
Anyway, the same kind of logic can be used to say that various players are the reason why we haven’t won since 1986. Lee Mazzilli played in 39 games in 1986, when we won, and more than 39 in 1987-1989. Maybe this is to blame. Rafael Santana had a batting average above .220 in every season he was with us where we didn’t win, and a .218 average in 1986. Maybe this is to blame
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Are you saying that Tom Seaver's mother is some sort of gypsy?
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 13, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"I curse you. For my son, Tom."

So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
by GreenBeer on Aug 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seaver bears a striking resemblence to Rosy the Riveter
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's fine
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that multiple times before I noticed the paintz
it does look good, but is he trying to be a girl?
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Silly gypsies.
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 15, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
youre talking bout a curse?
Seriously? This is still real life, not a movie or fairy tale, right? Don’t talk to me bout these fake things. We have had shit for brains making the decisions for this franchise, that’s why we can’t have nice things. JBW- just blame Wilpon
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by astromets on Aug 13, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Can we just admit that 2011 Mets had no expectations and basically is a wash year
We are not the Cubs for God sakes!
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As a member of the fact police
I have to point out that the very first sentence of your post is wrong.
Since a ball went miraculously through Bill Buckner’s weary legs to give the Mets the sixth game of the 1986 World Series, followed by a win the next night for the championship, being a Met fan has consisted of fleeting joy and exhilaration quickly overtaken by frustration and failure.
The Mets won Game 6 on October 25, 1986. Game 7 was rained out, and was not played until October 27th. Also known as the birthdays of Jon Niese and Pedro Beato
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