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Slip Sliding Away Applesauce: Mets Lose, Drop Fourth In Their Last Five Series, Pelfrey Injured By Parra, Quotes Taken Out of Context

"Don't worry, Mike! Everything will be okay. We have the leeches all set to go in the clubhouse and we'll commence with the bloodletting in about an hour. We also believe that there's around a 90% chance that we'll have to perform a craniotomy, so just sit down and we'll get the Opium anesthetic ready for you!" --Ray Ramirez

The undermanned Mets offense continues to struggle and the bullpen couldn't hold Mike Pelfrey's lead, as the Amazins' fell to the Diamondbacks 6-4 in Arizona on Saturday evening. Pelfrey, fresh off of a media fiasco caused by some out of context quotes he gave to Mike "Luis Hernandez, Opening Day Second Baseman" Puma, put the Mets in an early hole that they were able to dig themselves out of. Pelf seemed to straighten himself out, until the fourth inning when he was hit on the elbow with a Gerardo Parra line drive and removed from the game. That's when the LOLpen made an early appearance, headlined by D.J. Carrasco, who gave the game right back to the D-Backs on a silver platter. And that's where this one essentially ended, aside from an insurance run scored by Arizona in the sixth.

Chris Capuano heads to the mound for the Mets as they try to avoid a sweep at the hands of the Diamonbacks. For Arizona, it'll be Staten Island's own Jason Marquis opposing them. Marquis had some interesting comments about a potential union with the Mets or Yankees next season. To that I say "meh, he's probably a good guy but let's look for a better pitcher." Anyway, game time is 4:10 PM and the game can be seen locally on WPIX Channel 11.

Star-divide

Jason Bay reflects on his difficult season. I think difficult may be putting it lightly.

Yesterday, I linked to an idea of a Bay for Jake Peavy swap. Well, how about a Bay for A.J. Burnett swap? In a simple word: No. In two more words? Just no.

Will the Mets be second class citizens forever? Perhaps, although New Yorkers certainly are fickle creatures.

Around the NL East

Roy Oswalt threw 7 solid innings and the Phillies tossed John Lannan around like a rag doll, as they defeated the Nats 11-3.

The Cubs beat the Braves 8-4, but Dan Uggla's hitting streak stretched to 33 early on in this one. Uggla also hit another home run, the 27th of the season for him.

The Giants shut out the Marlins 3-0 behind a solid seven inning performance from Tim Lincecum.

Around the Majors

The Carlos Zambrano Crazy Train keeps rolling, as the Cubs placed the volatile righty on the Disqualified List, which bars him from pitching for 30 days. He's also not paid for the balance of those 30 days. This sounds like a job for the MLB Players Association, who will almost certainly try their hardest to rescue those 30 days pay.

Remember when Jorge Posada's career was over? Okay, it probably still is, but golfing in Florida and a yearly Old Timers' Day appearance seems a little further off in the distance after the day Jorge had on Saturday. Jorgie Juiced One™ Grand Slam and knocked in six runs altogether, while going 3-5 as the Yankees beat up on the Rays 9-2.

Mike Jacobs is on a mission to get back to the majors. He'll probably get back someday, although he shouldn't stay for very long and probably won't, considering that .313 career OBP (unless of course Omar Minaya gets a job in the near future. Then all bets are off the table).

Finally, Zack Greinke wore the wrong jersey in a pinch-hitting appearance. Awkward.

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That Mets360 article is laughable.

People should have to pass a test to write articles on the internet. If you don’t have the license you should go to jail.

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by sparbz on Aug 14, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Pelfrey Misquoted???

I think it’s laughable that you would say Pelfrey was misquoted to fit your agrument that Pelf was just a poor victim.

If Pelfrey was misquoted why did he issue a dozen apologies yesterday?

I asked Mike Puma who told me it was an exact quote.

I hope you have the decency to change that title or post your evidence that he was misquoted, and stop posting your own speculation as Mets news.

I post my own speculation all the time, nothing wrong with that, but I don’t pass it of as news.

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

we should welcome him here

hey, joe d, please tell this to your boss from me

welcome aboard.

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by Cory Braiterman on Aug 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, out of context is probably the right word as opposed to misquoted.

Sorry if I don’t exactly trust the Post’s journalistic integrity.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha right?

its like a hypochondriac getting mad that no one believes they have a cold.

by cntrlalt on Aug 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also enjoy the name dropping.

Good for you that you know Mike Puma personally, Joe D. I'm really impressed.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point is...

You changed the title, which I thought was out of line. When I have doubts about a story, I go to the source and ask them flat out. I couldn’t care less about Puma and it doesn’t matter which paper printed the story, that’s not the point. You cant knock someone’s journalistic integrity while you post speculation as fact. I call people out all the time, but first I do it directly with the source, than on my blog if it realy gets my goat. My favorite whipping boy is Andy Martino who is much worse than anyone on the Post, and Martino knows exactly how I feel about him from my emails and Twitter replies to him. Peace.

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, whut?

First you say:

hope you have the decency to change that title or post your evidence that he was misquoted, and stop posting your own speculation as Mets news.

Then you say:

The point is…
You changed the title, which I thought was out of line.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Changing the tile was not out of line, the original title was out of line. Notice my comma placement. RIF

Peace.

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets all pile up on the non-saber guy even if his point was correct. Geez, lighten up.

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh noes! a traditionalist! get him!

even though at no point was stats discussed here, and you outed yourself as a non-saber in a completely irrelevant way.

all we know about you is that you own a mystery blog and you have a poor grasp of logic and writing structure.

by cntrlalt on Aug 14, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Mystery Bog?

The more you cry about the divide between the two, the more you widen it.

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Joe thinks his fame spreads far and wide.

It’s unfortunate the poor guy’s name is “Joe,” in that case.

by SuperT on Aug 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

He probably is connected to The Post.

Would make sense since he apparently can talk to Puma all he wants (why anyone would actually want to take time out of their live to talk to that guy, I don’t know).

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by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he wrote mystery "blog"

as in we have no idea who you are or what blog you write for. And I don’t understand what this mysterious divide is either.

Oh well.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmm. Joe D from Metsmerized?

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by Aidan Gibson on Aug 14, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

I do remember him being here though and his name was just Joe D.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oy.

Thanks for posting this so I didn’t have to look it up myself. I will take the high road here and preemptively redact any comments that I could’ve made about this.

All I know is that my buddy Senorstem probably would have a field day with this if he had the time to spend.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Meh

Pelfrey is pretty much average, probably below average.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

fangraphs has him at

.4 WAR…so not good, just a little above average. if the mets dump him they’ll wind up with someone roughly the same to replace him.

by cntrlalt on Aug 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that's below average to bad.

0.0 WAR is not average, it’s replacement level. Replacement level is worse than average.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess its a matter of finding that line

between replacement and average. when i look at replacement level, i see an arbitrary player who can come in and perform not terribly, but not that great either. just about average, so when i see .4 WAR i think of a player that is slightly marginally better than “not that bad but not that good, either”.

by cntrlalt on Aug 14, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The league average player puts up around 2 WAR.

0 WAR guys are your prototypical AAAA players; think Mike Hessman or Jesus Feliciano.

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by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 12:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not sure what punctuation has to do with

sabermetrics, but if that’s where you want to take this, I’ll kindly refrain. I never was looking for any fights here and I’m still not interested.

Your point was taken. Thank you for taking time out of your morning to give me some feedback. Enjoy your day.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

It's not the comma dude, your sentence is poorly phrased

Why mention that he changed the title at all if all you wanted to say was that you thought the original title was “out of line?”

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he was right about Luis Hernandez being our starting 2B, wasn't he?

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 14, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boy... lol...

Sorry to get all your panties in a bunch. :-)

by JoeD86 on Aug 14, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no need for you to start insulting us,

just because you’re wrong.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 14, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what we call "fanning the flames."

Probably best to just get lost.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 14, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I might run into traffic

if Marquis ends up a Met.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Aug 14, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The Pelfrey thing is so stupid

What he said was the absolute truth. Everyone not named Pollyanna knows it and unless you assume that he’s not tried to his fullest, the whole thing is a complete non-story. The truth is that Pelfrey probably tries too hard if anything. Yet another example of a pencil necked geek trying to start trouble.

by lstorie1971 on Aug 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What he said was the absolute truth.

There is a difference between “truth” and “smart”.

I mean, sure… the enormous drunk guy pounding the table with the large knife in his hand is acting like an ass… but it’s probably not a good idea to say that to his face.

I think Pelfrey takes his place in MLB for granted. That’s a mistake. He’s not good enough to run his mouth and keep his position. Logan Morrison is running into the same problem in Florida. If you’re going to say anything to disparage the team, you’d damn well better be Albert flipping Pujols (or a lunatic).

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by TWilliAM on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see what he said

as disparaging. He didn’t criticize anyone’s effort or ability. He simply said that after last year it would be unrealistic to assume this team would make a full turnaround. He said that the team was doing things right and would be a perennial contender. He also squarely addressed his own problems.

I just don’t see what he said as having any controversial value. If his team mates feel differently, perhaps the unnamed Met should have talked to him in private instead of fuelling a controversy that shouldn’t even exist.

by lstorie1971 on Aug 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, no

He’s said, and Collins said, that it was part of a larger conversation in which Pelfrey thought he was expressing very positive things about the team. At some point he may have been asked to explain why, then, they’re not headed to the playoffs, and he said what made it to the paper – that you can’t really expect, after the situation the team was in after last year, to be a championship team in one year.

It was a ginned-up controversy, full stop. A completely dishonest cherry-picking of quotes by a reporter with no integrity (a qualification for writing for the Post, as it happens – I wish I were joking).

Pelfrey said he fully expected, with the rest of the team at the beginning of the season, to be able to make the playoffs. No player could have prevented this, unless he said, “well, we’re below 500, but we’re going to win the whole thing by golly, just you wait and see!”

by SuperT on Aug 14, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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