Mets Player Performance Meter, Week 17

by Chris McShane on Aug 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT

Perhaps Jason Bay has finally turned things around as a Met. (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

Any delusions about the Mets' shot at contending for the wild card have gone out the window since the last player meter. August has been a particularly awful month thus far, and the Mets are now four games below .500. At this point, it's all about looking ahead to 2012 and beyond.

All stats below run from August 3 through August 14.

Player	Last Week	This Week	Comment
Manny Acosta, RP			Believe it or not, this is Acosta's third consecutive green arrow. He allowed one run in 4.1 innings of work, striking out four.
Mike Baxter, OF			Mike from Whitestone produced a 1.098 OPS in his first thirteen trips to the plate with the Mets.
Jason Bay, LF			Bay belted a pair of home runs and put up a slash of .316/.395/.526. If he keeps it up through the end of the year - a big if, no doubt - perhaps another team would take him off the Mets' hands this winter.
Pedro Beato, RP			Beato was beaten around over the stretch, giving up five runs in 6.1 innings. At this point, the Mets are likely keeping him around just so he remains with the organization for 2012.
Tim Byrdak, RP			Although he gave up a run over his three innings, he did his job the rest of the time just fine.
Chris Capuano, SP			With a pair of nearly identical starts, Capuano saw his ERA rise despite striking out a good number of batters and barely walking any.
D.J. Carrasco, RP			Outside of completely blowing the game when he replaced Mike Pelfrey in Arizona, Carrasco was decent enough as of late.
R.A. Dickey, SP			Dickey wasn't dominant, but he was pretty good. Bonus points for joining Twitter.
Lucas Duda, RF			It'd be nice if Duda were hitting home runs at a higher clip, but he still got on base over forty percent of the time with some pop. His bat should be good enough for right field in 2012 if the Mets need it.
Nick Evans, 1B			In very few plate appearances, he hit the ball well and drew a walk, probably because the opposing pitcher couldn't see a strike zone.
Dillon Gee, SP			Gee was really hurt by the home run in his pair of starts, in which he posted an 8.10 ERA.
Scott Hairston, OF			Hairston actually got some playing time but didn't produce. His .489 OPS was very un-Hairston.
Willie Harris, OF			He didn't do much right, but his OBP was over .300, a minor accomplishment by his standards this year.
Ryota Igarashi, RP			In 3.2 innings, he walked five batters and hit one with a pitch. Someone else from Buffalo probably gets the call to replace him very soon.
Jason Isringhausen, RP			Izzy threw only two innings, but he issued no walks and didn't allow any runs.
Daniel Murphy, 1B			Murphy didn't do anything wrong and was easily one of the team's best hitters, but his season came to a sudden halt when his knee was injured on August 7.
Jonathon Niese, SP			It was a stretch of good process (9.24 K/9, 2.84 BB/9), mediocre results (4.97 ERA) for the Mets' best pitcher.
Angel Pagan, CF			It's been an up and down year for Pagan, but he's been the team's best hitter during their very poor month of August.
Bobby Parnell, RP			I'll still be lobbying for Parnell as the best reliever on the team next year, but his performance lately has not made it easy. The strikeouts are still there, but the walks were way too high.
Ronny Paulino, C			Paulino didn't play much, and it's a good thing because he didn't hit much, either.
Mike Pelfrey, SP			Anytime Big Pelf gets two starts for one player meter, his arrow seems to come out sideways. Thoroughly mediocre.
Jason Pridie, CF			Pridie got a little more playing time than usual but struggled mightily at the plate.
Jose Reyes, SS			There's been no real update on Reyes' rehab schedule.
Ruben Tejada, SS			He wasn't hitting in Buffalo since he was demoted, and then he hit about as well as he possibly could when he returned to the Mets: .280/.379/.400. He made a few awful mistakes in the field and on the bases, though.
Josh Thole, C			Easily Thole's best offensive stretch of the year: .318/.375/.545.
Justin Turner, 2B			Despite the .212 batting average, Turner produced a good-enough .757 OPS. He's no Irish Hammer, though.
David Wright, 3B			After coming back from the disabled list on fire, Wright's struggled a little bit recently.

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PRAYS another team takes Jason Bay off the Mets' hands

absolutely YES.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions

I am not even sure why we even

bother wonder aloud for that one.

I can’t see how anyone would want to take this on:
+10:$6.5M, 11:$16M, 12:$16M, 13:$16M, 14:$17M club option ($3M buyout)
+2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013

Its just impossible.

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by Coolpapabell on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Hmm?

I understand what you’re saying, but you can take out his 2010 and 2011 salaries. Those are taken care of already. Without those, it’s a slightly more palatable $35M over 2 years (16M + 16M + 3M buyout). That option is scary, but if he’s that bad, the acquiring team would probably just bench or release him anyway to avoid that thing from vesting.

Obviously they wouldn’t get much back for him, aside from another bad contract most likely but I doubt he’s completely immovable. Vernon Wells was thought immovable a year ago and look what happened to him.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I just can't see why

anyone would want to pay him $16M next year and the year after when the guy has a WAR of 1.5 last year and is on pace to reach 2.0 WAR this year. Vernon Wells posted a WAR of 3.9. The Bluejays were able to fool some very very stupid people in LA that 2010 success was sustainable.

With Bay, there is no success. We have to go back two years for that. A little harder to ask someone to have to take on $16M per year for the next two years., for production that could be had much more cheaply. Fangraphs valued Bay’s production at $6M last year, and I imagine it won’t fall too far from that number this year. I would imagine Sandy would have to eat more than half the money for a team to bite.

If Bay heats up, then maybe the story changes, but we have been waiting a year and a half for him to return to his mean, and it seems clear now that that bar has lowered. A resurgence seems so far fetched that there is amlost no point in even thinking about it.

by Coolpapabell on Aug 15, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

You know full well that if he is moved to another team he will start putting up the numbers he had with the PIrates/Red Sox, right?

That being said, LAWD YES, trade him.

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by Terry_is_God on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

The only place I see him being productive is

Fenway, and I don’t see the Sox picking up that contract. We would have to eat a good portion of the money for a Sox deal to happen.

IMHO, the best we can hope for is him picking it up for the rest of the way, and have it continue into the first half of next year.

by Coolpapabell on Aug 15, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

CUBS

Bay for Zambrano?

by MDMETSFAN on Aug 16, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Is this a serious suggestion?

Because I’d prefer 5 Jason Bays over Zambrano.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 16, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Turner

Is he the Irish Mallet then?

by CCE718 on Aug 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions

To say Igarashi is down

this week would be an understatement. Is there something lower we can use other than a down arrow?

Seriously, he’s not a ML caliber pitcher. At least not in the US of A. All he’s doing is throwing up there.

Ironic that the two oldest guys out there have been the most consistently good: Izzy and Byrdak.

by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions

A red arrow is not graphically capable of demonstrating the magnitude of suck.

by lstorie1971 on Aug 15, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL

Maybe a flaming red down arrow would do it.

by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Poop and icicles would do it

by EtSuKe on Aug 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Aug 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

burning ice cream?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I lobby this

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

A sinking ship?

The comet pic for higher than the green arrow is going up. A sinking ship is going down, much like the red arrow going down.

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by meigs1414 on Aug 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Mushroom cloud?

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Or would that be more for something good?

I think the mushroom cloud would be negative, considering it depicts destruction.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Skull and crossbones

Or a snake, cause we’re snakebitten

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

a piece

of crap

cuz thats how he’s playing like

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by netsareboss on Aug 15, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

he strikes out a ton

just walks a ton too

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

It seems like Capuano and Gee are tiring in the summer heat

1 from the minors probgably hasn’t pitched as many innings and the other comming off an injury

by Sir Tmac on Aug 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions

Gee threw 194 innings last year between Buffalo and the majors.

He’s only at 128 this year between the two levels. I don’t think this is him tiring…this is strictly regression to the mean finally combining with his mediocre control, low strikeout rate and flyball tendencies.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions

this

Also, that is an easily found stat

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd give Tejada a down error based on his glove play

costing them a game, plus his boneheaded base running.

by David G on Aug 15, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions

corex: "down arrow"

by David G on Aug 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

Duda

I like him a lot, and he seems to have become a more complete hitter this year, but I’m a little concerned with the lack of pop he’s had this year. He has the same amount of home runs he had last season, but after having played a lot more games than last year. Maybe it’s just a little fluky, and maybe it’s a matter of him just taking what the pitcher is giving him to hit. But I thought for sure I would see him hit at least 15 home runs this year. I would expect more power from him as the everyday RF next year.

by MetsCity on Aug 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions

He has a pretty slow start in general this year

by Balagast on Aug 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

He does have 12 doubles and 3 triples to go along with his 4 homers

and I can think of at least two shots that he hit that should’ve been home runs in a normal park (the triple he hit high off the high RF wall in San Francisco and the 2 run double he hit on Thursday at Citi against the Pads where the fence by the Mo’s Zone suddenly starts to go deeper…both would be out in a neutral park).

I’m not worried about his power. He’s still learning how to pull the ball, considering that his power finally only broke out last year. He was ridiculous in AAA the past two seasons and eventually that’ll translate to the majors.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Good points

About the XBH he does have on top of the home runs (12 doubles, 3 triples). I just have high hopes he can be a real power threat in the middle of the lineup.

by MetsCity on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

The season

We moved ahead well with Wright out, and beltran traded. But now with Reyes and Murphy out the team is sinking. Losing two .300+ hitters the same day put the nail in the Coffin. Even if Wright and Bay get hot we are doomed. Yes Davis was a loss but these two had the most hits and carried the team..

by lionstein on Aug 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions