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15th-rder Phillip Evans agree on $650k. Calif HS middle infielder, offensive-minded guy w/solid D. San Diego State commit.

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Nice!

Got Marquez, got Evans, now we need Robbins

by Shevshevy on Aug 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

That was considered a tough sign

It’s equivalent to sandwich-round/2nd round money

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Great signing

I know Mike Diaz and some other sources don’t think he sticks at SS, but I think he has a decent shot at sticking there, and the bat is for real. I’d say he immediately becomes a top 10 guy in the system

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Catcher?

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do love your catcher conversions

Arm’s probably not good enough, it’s fringy at short.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

Just read one of the reports posted above – said his arm is a rocket but his footwork is poor. Footwork is important for catching

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve seen reports that say good footwork and bad arm, depends on which day you see him, I guess, hence the positional uncertainty.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was Diaz

That didn’t love his arm

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Outside of the arms, Nimmo, Kirk and Fulmer, I don’t know who I would for sure rate above him as a prospect in the org. Maybe Valdespin.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lagares and Flores, definitely Jordanny, maybe Lutz or Cordero?

Where does Satin rank in all this, he is not of prospect age? But hitting .300/.400/.500 across AA and AAA will definitely play in the majors

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

A lot of people will probably rate Puello and Flores higher, which is fine, though Evans bat is already pretty polished and he has tools to spare as well. Lagares need to show some secondary skills or the ability to play CF for me to rate him particularly high. I am higher on Lutz than just about anyone other than Rob, but he’s lost a lot of development time and isn’t young. And I am higher on Satin than anyone, including Rob,but he is 26 and doesn’t have close to Evans’ ceiling. Actual SS prospects are very, very rare. I mean, the Mets have such an odd mix of older polished guys and younger tools/upside guys, that depending on what you like to emphasize, after the four arms, ratings tend to diverge.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty high on Jordany, Lutz and Satin myself

always forget about Puello – like him but not as much as some others.

I think Lagares has the speed for CF, but is blocked by den Dekker and Kirk for now. Plus, he has impressed me this year, even if it is BABIP driven. It is hypocritical of me to like him this much after being pretty low on Ceciliani, who had the same deal last year, but something about Lagares surviving the Omar rush job has me feeling good about him. Or maybe it is the better competition he is facing while doing it. Maybe it is something I saw when I watch them play. Dunno, but I am pretty high on him.

I just find it hard to bump people up in the rankings based solely on what they did as an amateur

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to call out everyone who joined late on the Lutz bandwagon.

Probably just Sokojoe can claim to be there from the start.

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

certainly

was hard to be on it before last season

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always known Lutz' value

From my Award Winning AAOP:

In addition, we’d have to send some prospects, nobody too high up, Blake is a 36 year old after all, so I’d guess/hope Duda or Lutz and Moviel or Beaulac would be enough (Maybe some combination of three of those? I don’t want to give up Nieuwenhuis or Tejada or anyone like that.). I bad with trades, so I’m not really sure.

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I proclaimed my love

last year.

I’m in love with him.

but I’m not sure when I actually fell in love.

by EtSuKe on Aug 15, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly liked Lutz a lot back when I wrote that

But he was a long ways away and so much can go wrong as we know.

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just traded our 3B of the future for a 36yo Blake. Fire SM Evan_S!

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also signed Matt Holliday instead of Jason Bay

That was about the only thing that would have ended well there.

Predicting the future is hard.

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, I think all if not most of us

preferred Holliday to Nay at the time

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 16, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

More like desperate for catcher conversions

And I’ll be that way until we get some quality catching depth in the system.

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think we should have grabbed one of the prep catchers

during the run of college arms, but I can’t complain about this draft too strenuously at all.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wish and it might come true
AdamRubinESPN Adam Rubin
One talent evaluator says of newly signed #Mets 15th-rd. pick Phillip Evans: “Plus instincts. Good kid. Might be a catcher down the line.” link

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like it might not come true
@conorglassey
Had a SoCal scout tell me Phillip Evans profiles best behind the plate, but that he doesn’t want to move back there. #Mets #mlbdraft

https://twitter.com/#!/conorglassey/status/103198699546624000

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This should make Russ happy.

Adam Rubin via Twitter
One talent evaluator says of newly signed #Mets 15th-rd. pick Phillip Evans: “Plus instincts. Good kid. Might be a catcher down the line.”

by FrancoTAU on Aug 15, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Omar

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Out of curiosity, when he does that, is he saying

“Fooooooooo” or “Eff you you you you……?” Cause I always read it as “foooooooo.”

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that it was Eff You

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always saw it as "Fuhhhhh"

Like if you were cartoon falling down a cliff, and the “ck” isn’t heard.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

same

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY

by netsareboss on Aug 15, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

It’s a statement of frustration, not an insult.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Aug 15, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry that I know this but it's just an internet meme form of saying "Fuck!"

http://www.internetslang.com/FUUU.asp

more detail than you need: http://ohinternet.com/RAGE

It’s from 4chan. If that fact means anything to you it tells you all you need to know about it. If you don’t know anything about 4chan consider yourself lucky, and pity freakystyley.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Aug 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know 4chan well enough

I visited the site once and didn’t know wtf was going on.

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah wtf is that?

just looked for the first an only time

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they are the inventors of every internet joke ever.

Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus

by Jonathan. on Aug 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always assumed it was pronounced

Eff YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (where the U just keeps going on infinitely).

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I have your back.

I know it’s not supposed to be pronounced fooooooooooooooo though. I just read it like that anyway.

by tkow on Aug 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i always read it as

fuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh like the guy is cursing but w/o teh uck part

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY

by netsareboss on Aug 15, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean

We are fans of a serious baseball organization? I’m excited if it does.

by MetsCity on Aug 15, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that this is strong indicator of just that

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It feels awesome!

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

how did this guy drop to the 15th round?

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Signability concerns

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the beauty of going overslot

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

great news

Sickles rated him as a supplemental round talent.

by secret defense on Aug 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Klaw had him close to there as well

55th best draft prospect I think

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Aug 15, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it!

Conversion to catcher? yay or nay?

by robotoverlord on Aug 15, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

nay, not yet

I LIKE IKE!

by astromets on Aug 15, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nay

Unless it’s obvious that his skillset suits him better at C than SS/2B, it’s probably smarter not to mess with him. There are scouts thinking he could be above-average defensively at 2B, and it’s not like our org is super strong at middle-infield.

by psiogen on Aug 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay!!!!!

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should convert Fernando to catcher

Fight fire with fire? I say fight knee arthritis with constant crouching.

by Evan_S on Aug 15, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SS

I hope he sticks there, because it seems like we’ve been getting a lot of SS prospects that need to move to another position at some point in time. Havens has already moved to 2B, Flores will have to move eventually so the word goes. Valdespin is playing SS, but is really a 2B converted to that position. The only legit SS we’ve had other than Reyes is, gulp, Ruben Tejada.

I hope this Evans kid can show he can stick at SS, and be nice piece on the big league team when it’s time to call him up.

by MetsCity on Aug 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Havens was drafting basically assuming he'd be moved to 2B right away

At least Evans has a shot at sticking there from what I’ve read.

by Balagast on Aug 15, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's just a testament to how difficult the position is.

Not many people can handle it, which is why true SS prospects are so valuable.

by EricAColucci on Aug 15, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Diaz has a good write-up about Evans

http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/phillip-evans-scouting-report/

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Neato, gang! Neato!

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Aug 15, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

No that's this guy:

This is Who#2?

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who#2 is called Silk or something

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by Michkin on Aug 15, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What guy?

I just see an empty jersey propped up.

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by Russ on Aug 15, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR???

"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
-Tupac Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 15, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I see is Kunz in the background

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Aug 16, 2011 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Ruff.

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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 16, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

This guy should be named What

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Aug 15, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

how about Ohw?

a backwards Who, I am confident Sandy will find Nemmo

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 15, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

How also works

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Aug 15, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or, we finally have a GM willing to fight to pay overslot to players who can be worth it.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 16, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Obvious answer is obvious

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by Russ on Aug 16, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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