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Mets beat Philly applesauce: Mets win, Phillies lose, Pelfrey licks hand

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After a miserable first few days in Philadelphia, the Mets looked like a team on the verge of being swept.  Mike Pelfrey was solid enough though, as the Mets managed a 7-4 win to close out the series.  Nick Evans three run shot certainly didn't hurt the Mets cause today, and reliever Bobby Parnell also had a nice outing.  While Pelfrey was noted for being heckled in his bullpen session by a Mets fan, the NY Times points out that they are becoming a rare breed in Philadelphia this season.

On the injury front, Jose Reyes is scheduled to start his rehab assignment in Binghamton this weekend.  Tickets are still available if you live in the area.  Johan Santana has also began throwing off of a mound, but with the minor league season coming to a close I really doubt we'll see him making a rehab start this year.  The Mets brass seem to be talking about winter ball, which would be a real treat for fans in Venezuela. 

Terry Collins is hoping to have Jon Niese back fairly soon.  The injury doesn't appear to be serious, but I'd prefer we didn't rush Niese back for the "stretch run" this year.  We have plenty of capable guys to come close out the season at or below .500 without risking our best pitcher's long term health.  Rounding out the injuries, we should be hearing more about Ike Davis soon.

Star-divide

Patrick Flood tries to remind fans why Angel Pagan was thought of so highly last season.  His conclusion that non-tendering Pagan would be a silly move is absolutely correct, and I don't expect  it will really be considered.

Fangraphs looks into Jose Reyes value and how much his injuries this year may cost him on the market.  I almost think this has been a blessing in disguise, as his value to the Mets should become even more obvious now while his value around baseball should be dropping.

Around the NL East:

As we pointed out earlier...the Phillies lost to the Mets.  That's the club's 10,276th loss in it's storied losing history.

It's fitting that the other member of the 10,000 loss club, the Braves, fell to the Jim Hendry-less Cubs by a score of 3-2.  Talking Chop took a closer look at the ridiculous strikeout numbers the Braves pitchers have been posting this season.

The Nationals didn't lose yesterday, winning 4-2 over the playoff hunting Diamondbacks.

The Marlins split their double header yesterday with the Reds.  At least we're still in front of them in the standings.

Around MLB:

Ted Berg takes a look at one player who could be a bigger name on the free agent market than Jose Reyes this winter.  Yu should make yourselves familiar with him (If that's not old already, I'm sure it will be soon).

BtB did an interview with Tom Tango.  That's always worth a read.

Former Met Heath Bell was claimed on waivers by the Giants.  McCovey Chronicles thinks it may be a blocking maneuver, I'm not convinced Brian Sabean even knows what that is.  It's so nice to actually have a good GM now so we can make fun of other teams bad moves...

FanGraphs takes a look at spending in the ML draft.  It's nice to see the Mets not being crucified for their cheapness all of a sudden.

Finally, Bud Selig was in Chicago supporting the Cubbies ownership.  There is some talk of having the 2014 all star game there, and I don't think I'm alone in thinking teams like the Mets and Twins that have spent 100's of millions on new stadiums should certainly be hosting these things in the near future as well.

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Ike's injury

Is, for my money, the most single depressing setback of the Mets season. Ike was raking, he seemed to have made several minor adjustments to improve his swing, and was poised to possibly put up a breakthrough season (25-30hr, .300avg, .350obp, .500slg).

I know he’s wary of surgery, but c’mon Ike, whatever it takes the Mets need you healthy and on the field next year. If they are able to sign Reyes, get even better production out of their 2nd basemen, with Wright, a hopefully non-snakebit Pagan, Duda in right – the offense could be even better next year.

Sure, Scrotum Face and the rest of the Phillies along with the Braves and Gnats should be just as tough if not tougher next year, but if we can add at least a capable starter or two, and some bullpen help, we can hang around next year, and then, luck and progress willing, the 2013 team could be strong contenders.

by keepcoolbutcare on Aug 25, 2011 9:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He'll remember that day forever

and when he’s a dad, he’ll take his son to Mets’ games, too. I took my 6-year old earlier this year, and we too got to speak with a gracious and patient RA Dickey. What a special player, and what a decent and good person.

by Ownbey4Mex on Aug 25, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

At what point is it worth while for the Mets to just cut Bay?

He has the same WAR this year as Nick Evans … that is all.

by Balagast on Aug 25, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

At this point I really want to see Duda in RFand Evans at 1B

Get them both playing everyday to see if:
1. Duda can handle the OF everyday defensively
2. Evans bat is for real at all

If both those are true why can’t we have an Evans, Pagan, Duda OF in 2012? The sample size of Bay’s suckage has reached a point where its becoming clear he’s not coming back, and he’s not some kind of speed demon or defensive wizard that gives him extra value.

by Balagast on Aug 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

cut

I think this is the 1st mention of cutting Jason Bay on here. I hope the idea catches on.

by MDMETSFAN on Aug 25, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's in the second year of a 4 year deal, getting $16 million+ per year

I think this will catch on in 2013. If he’s bad again next season, I don’t see him coming back in the last year of his deal. But right now, it’s hard to ask any ownership to eat nearly $50 million in salary, even 32 is a lot to ask. 16 will be more realistic.

by Evan_S on Aug 25, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if not cut at least benched

Just because he’s paid doesn’t mean we have to keep trotting him out there everyday until his contract is up.

by Balagast on Aug 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in 2009, too.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 26, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies losing +10,000

I love the fact that the Phillies have lost that much.

I don’t normally rip into fans and I don’t really dislike any other fanbases, but a few months back I was in a bar and when this obnoxious girl heard that I was a Mets fan. She was a Phillies fan, of course (because how often do you see obnoxious people rooting for teams like the Royals or the Nationals) and started ripping into me about my taste.

That’s when I busted out the losing number on the Phillies girl. I told her that she should be embarrassed to root for a team that was so bad for so long and that it takes a sustained sh*ttiness to accrue 10,000 losses. I also noted that it’s entirely possible that no team in the history of humankind has lost that much at anything that wasn’t a fake contest (see Harlem Globetrotters and Washington Generals).

by JayWise on Aug 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

it's true, they're the only professional sports franchise with 10,000 losses

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 25, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves too!

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Aug 25, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So at what point do we worry about Niese's durability?

It took a bit longer this year, but he hit a wall about 3/4 into last season as well, although he has been significantly better overall in some ways (dropped his BB/9 by almost a full walk, for example)

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

He only really "hit a wall" by ERA

His FIP and xFIP have been consistently better than last year all year long.

by Balagast on Aug 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now On MLB network

There’s a short, fat catcher playing or Detroit named Santos. No mention of clutchy grission yet due to this fact, but we’ll see when he bats.

Kicking knowledge in the face.

by BlackOps on Aug 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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