Marlins 6, Mets 0: I Will Pay The Famed Fisherman Quint Any Sum Of Money To Destroy The Marlins
This ultimately meaningless game had more juice than it deserved, as the Mets' doubleheader sweep on Monday meant an opportunity for the rare five-game series sweep. And against the Marlins no less, the 2007-and-2008-ruining, brawl-starting, thorn-in-the-side franchise that has quietly tormented the Mets in recent years. Various jackasses of Marlins past -- think Cody Ross, Miguel Olivo, Scott Olsen -- have since moved on, but the stench remains. Hopes of a sweep disappeared after tonight's drubbing.
It wasn't always a blowout. The score heading into the seventh inning tonight was 0-0. Mike Pelfrey was pitching one of those classic Pelfrey games in which he strikes out hardly anyone yet holds the opposition scoreless. These games are usually followed by hard-hitting analysis from the pollyannas about his "poise", "tempo", "confidence", etc., when the real story is BABIP and left-on-base % fluctuation masking his inability to induce swinging strikes (he tallied just four on the night) and, ultimately, strikeouts (he notched three tonight). His deficient peripherals eventually caught up to him this evening.
Pelf allowed the first two batters to reach in the seventh, creating a runners on first-and-second, none out situation with Marlins pitcher Javier Vazquez at the plate. Vazquez predictably bunted as the Mets put on the "wheel" play, in which the first and third basemen charged as the middle infielders manned the corner bases. David Wright fielded the bunt and neglected to throw to third base to nail the lead runner, even though it looked as if he had a play there. Wright instead looked to get Vazquez at first, except second baseman Justin Turner was standing on second base instead of first. All runners were safe and it appeared that Wright and Turner were mostly to blame. It turns out Turner had put on a pickoff play for the runner at second, Mike Cameron, but Pelfrey delivered the pitch anyway for some reason. This left first base unmanned after the bunt (all of this info courtesy of Adam Rubin). Pelfrey then allowed an RBI single to Emilio Bonifacio and was pulled with the score 1-0 Marlins.
Tim Byrdak and Ryota Igarashi followed with some so-so relief work and it was 5-0 Marlins heading to the bottom half of the frame. With a resurgent Vazquez dominating the Mets' lineup, five runs was more than enough. Mike Stanton mashed an impressive oppo homer into the Pepsi Porch in the ninth inning to cap the scoring. There isn't much to offer about the Mets' lineup. Wright and Josh Thole each hit two singles but no Met had an extra-base hit.
Pelfrey's final line -- six innings, four runs, three strikeouts, four walks -- was poor, although he did induce more groundballs than usual. For the 23rd time in 28 starts, Pelfrey struck out fewer than 5 batters. He is by no means sub-replacement level dreck but wow, watching him pitch is not much fun.
Chris Capuano will start Wednesday night against the Fish, hoping to repeat his bananas performance against the Braves last Friday night. Chris Volstad is his opponent and first pitch is at 7:10 PM.
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Fish Stripes Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: David Wright +2.6%, Josh Thole +1.8%
Big losers: Lucas Duda -13.5%, Tim Byrdak -9.2%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Gaby Sanchez flied out in the sixth inning +10.6%
Teh sux0rest play: Javier Vazquez bunt single in the seventh inning -11.5%
Total pitcher WPA: -14.0%
Total batter WPA: -36.0%
GWRBI!: Emilio Bonifacio
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by MetsFan4Decades; her effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | MetsFan4Decades | 149 |
| 2 | aparkermarshall | 106 |
| 3 | BurleighGrimes | 93 |
| 4 | Bobby Baseball | 91 |
| 5 | Russ | 81 |
| 6 | astromets | 79 |
| 7 | Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan | 66 |
| 8 | ackbar7 | 62 |
| 9 | itsmetsforme | 52 |
| 10 | Terry_is_God | 51 |
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Crap.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
Marlins
are indeed a thorn in our side.
How is it that they keep turning that team over and bringing over and up more guys that just keep annoying the hell out of us?
The good news is as good as Stanton appears to be, won’t be long before Loria ‘sells high’
and he'll be playing for the Yankees.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 30, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
From that "other" site I used to read: "With the loss, the Mets are now 18-30 against the Marlins since the beginning of the 2009 season"
Start throwing at them. This is completely unacceptable.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Aug 31, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What will make them field better?
Because they need something. Their defense is routinely mediocre and occasionally pathetic. Maybe they need to get the Cal Ripken instructional videos.
True.
But it will make me feel better.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Aug 31, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the Mets season unoffically ended a while ago, but
this game annoyed the shit outta me. Fuck the Marlins.
From Adam Rubin
AdamRubinESPNAdam Rubin
Mike Pelfrey blamed himself for Justin Turner not being at 1B on Vazquez bunt. Pelfrey said Turner put pickoff play on at 2B and he pitched.
I was wondering why no one mentioned this.
Irrational Mets fan known for memorable ranting and raving, when things inevitably go wrong.
Thanks
I wanted to hold off on commenting until it was known wtf was going on there. No one seemed to know exactly.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 30, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So
if Pelf knew what ‘open glove’ meant, if he knew he was supposed to execute a pick off or step off, why not do one or the other? Instead, he just pitches to Thole?
No wonder Wright looked stupid. He should have thrown to 3rd, but I’m assuming in that split second decision he decided to go for the sure out at 1st, and realized too late no one was covering first.
Or something incredibly dumb to that effect.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 30, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that explains things
I couldn’t understand what Turmer was doing running to second. Really made me mad at Turner. Now I blame pelfrey and his inability to execute in clutch
"Its only a game, but it helps teach you about life"
by Seaver73 on Aug 30, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Do Ford Edges come in stick and have a clutch?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 30, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha clutch.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 31, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, the gamethread was pretty dead
I came in 7th, and I left in the middle of the top of the second
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 31, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions
Marlins are the most pointless team to have ever existed.
Second only to the Fillies.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
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The 2011 New York Mets: I don't know what to describe them as...
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Foul balls
Are swinging strikes. Pelf gets plenty of those
by Mike Clemente on Aug 31, 2011 2:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Missing bats
The swinging strike thing is to demonstrate that Pelf has a lot of trouble missing bats. He doesn’t necessarily fall behind in the count, but he doesn’t have the stuff to miss bats consistently.
The idea is that pitchers who miss bats are more likely to pile up strikeouts than those who can’t. Pitchers who don’t generate many strikeouts, or at least a close-to-average number of strikeouts, are vulnerable to the vicissitudes of BABIP, poor defensive play, etc.
I'd argue in Pelfrey's case...
it also undermines him greatly by extending at bats, and increasing his walk totals. A pitcher who can’t put away a hitter on a 2-2 pitch will either get a foul ball or two or miss the plate again. Do that a couple of times and you get a walk instead of a strikeout and Pelfrey isn’t the greatest at control to begin with. The inability to put a batter away, combined with unimpressive control also keeps Pelfrey from going deep in most of his games, even when he’s having success, as his pitch counts tend to be abnormally high.
Right
That’s called “swings and misses” not “swinging strikes”. I’ve seen that a few times in the articles on this site.
by Mike Clemente on Aug 31, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Any links to articles on this site with that difference?
I’m not calling you out, I’m genuinely curious. I’ve only referred to “swinging strikes” (SwStr%), as found on FanGraphs and the ESPN.com box scores, and never “swings and misses”. SwStr% on FanGraphs does not include foul balls.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
When looking at a pitchers totals for strikes/balls, where are foul balls counted?
I think fangraphs needs to modify their nomenclature – it’s not an indictment on you.
by Mike Clemente on Aug 31, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Foul balls are counted as strikes when looking at the overall strike vs. ball tally for a pitcher
But foul balls are not counted as swinging strikes for purposes of the stat Swinging Strike Rate. I think that’s fair.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

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