Mets 5, Padres 4: Thrilling Plate Discipline Action!
This game began in a surprisingly light mood. Both the radio and TV announcing teams spoke of the Mets being fired up after their thrilling comeback on Monday, and so one assumed they would come out firing on all cylinders on Tuesday. There was, of course, also talk on SNY of the absence of Chase Headley from the Padres lineup, just to allow Keith Hernandez to say "Headley!" in his best Harvey Korman impersonation.
Maybe it was the light attendance, dampened by torrential rain, and maybe it was the oppressive humidity, but the Mets certainly didn't appear fired up in the early going of this one. Then again, neither did the Padres. The early innings looked to be not so much a pitchers' duel as an offensive nap time. Chris Capuano allowed a leadoff bunt single by Cameron Maybin and walked TK in the second, but otherwise was flawless through the first three innings as the Padres batters could only manage weak grounders and flyouts. His opposite number, Wade LeBlanc, did much the same to the Mets lineup over the first three while striking out three batters looking. There was nary a hard hit ball among the bunch.
Then the patented Capuano Swoon made an early appearance in the top of the fourth. Jesus Gomez led off the inning with a long double off the Great Wall of Flushing. Orlando Hudson followed with his own double over the head of Angel Pagan in center to plate Guzman. One out later, Aaron Cunningham singled to left to drive in Hudson. Capuano managed a groundball double play to escape further damage, but the Padres now had a 2-0 lead.
However, LeBlanc decided he'd keep this game's delicate symmetry intact and suddenly looked vulnerable against the Mets hitters. Lucas Duda knocked a single to start things off, and Jason Bay hit a dribbler up the third base line that LeBlanc could not handle, allowing Bay to reach safely. Scott Hairston blasted a double off the Great Wall, Ronnie Paulino followed with a sac fly, and just like that the Mets had tied things up at 2.
The Padres roared back with a two-out rally in the top of the fifth. After retiring the first two batters easily, Capuano allowed a single to Maybin. Jason Bartlett then hit a long double off the bullpen window in right-center, allowing Maybin to score all the way from first. Jesus Guzman played HORSE by smacking his own double to almost the same spot to put the Padres up, 4-2.
The Mets could not manage an immediate response in the bottom half, as David Wright worked a two-out walk but was caught stealing by LeBlanc's deft pickoff move. LeBlanc retired the side in order in the bottom of the sixth, and reliever Luke Gregerson did the same in bottom of the seventh.
Capuano worked around a leadoff single by Kyle Blanks in the sixth to escape unscathed, but he surrendered another single to pinch hitter Logan Forsythe in the seventh and was replaced by Manny Acosta. The newly de-fro-ed Acosta pitched a scoreless inning, but was felled by the first batter in the eighth, Alberto Gonzalez (inserted for the injured Hudson), who knocked a single off of Acosta's pitching hand and bloodied his pinky. DJ Carrasco took his place and somehow kept San Diego off the board, though not for lack of trying otherwise.
After several quiet innings, the Mets finally awoke in the bottom of the eighth. Angel Pagan led off by blasting a solo shot to the bullpen off of new reliever Chad Qualls, shaving the Padres' lead to one run. Justin Turner looped a single into shallow left, and David Wright lined a single just past the third baseman. Qualls was swapped for Josh Spence to face cleanup hitter Lucas Duda, who laid down a sac bunt like cleanup hitters do all the time. With first base open, San Diego opted to intentionally walk Jason Bay and face a nameless human who may or may not have been Nick Evans. This anonymous baseballer hit a ball far enough to center field to allow Turner to tag up and score the tying run.
A walk to Ronnie Paulino (balls three and four coming on some fortunate calls) loaded the bases for Jose Reyes' caddy, Ruben Tejada. He managed to crawl out of a 1-2 hole and work a walk of his own, which gave the Mets a 5-4 lead. In his first save chance since last week against the Marlins (LET US NEVER SPEAK OF IT AGAIN), Jason Isringhausen kept the drama at a minimum with a 1-2-3 inning, notching his 299th save in the process. Congrats, Izzy. Here's to at least one more.
This wasn't the most thrilling game you ever saw (at least I hope it wasn't). Even the Mets' three-run rally in the bottom of the eighth was decidedly low key. But this team has proven its resilience by following crushing lows with, if not dizzying highs like last night, at least creamy middles like this game. Take that, New York Times.
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Gaslamp Ball Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Scott Hairston, +16.2%, Ruben Tejada, +15.0%
Big losers: Chris Capuano, -31.0%, Mike Baxter, -4.8%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Ruben Tejada's bases loaded walk, bottom eighth, +26.0%
Teh sux0rest play: Orlando Hudson RBI double, top fourth, -12.4%
Total pitcher WPA: -9.6%
Total batter WPA: +59.6%
GWRBI!: Ruben Tejada's bases loaded walk, bottom eighth
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by fxcarden; their effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | fxcarden | 135 |
| 2 | MetsFan4Decades | 129 |
| 3 | feslenraster | 114 |
| 4 | aparkermarshall | 97 |
| 5 | CTRefJay | 97 |
| 6 | NetsMets4Life | 97 |
| 7 | Spike Davis | 81 |
| 8 | Steve Schreiber | 79 |
| 9 | Jsz | 75 |
| 10 | TKFJ | 72 |
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So let me get this straight.
The guy who sounds exactly like Ted Berg is actually Andy Martino?
Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey
Apparently.
"Dont blame me, I was given this world, I didn’t make it."
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 9, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
For the second game in a row, a beautiful WPA graph.
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 9, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Two days in a row!
Craziness
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Make it green!
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 9, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yay thanks for the recap Chris
I lost power so I couldn’t watch or use the internetz. glad they wonz and glad I have power
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
DOH (smacks self) I meant thanks for the recap MATTHEW
sheesh I’m not paying attention tonight—gnight all
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Yeah we know,
but impressive that we got to their BP both nights, which has been a strength of theirs all season.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 9, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and they had been red hot coming in, having swept the Padres
and we have half our lineup on the DL
Padres vs Padres
Now THAT would be entertaining
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
We suck at home though
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Izzy just called Dickey "The Dickster."
Izzy Be Praised!
Eternal Praise Be To Thy One True God R.A. Dickey
When that story came out about Dickey in the Darth Vadar costume
it was mentioned that Dickey’s sandwiches have “Dickster” handwritten labels.
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Praise Mrs. Dickey!
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What a difference a week makes
Last week they had two gut wrenching loses against the Marlins where the bullpen imploded late. This Last two nights they were able to get to the Padres bullpen and have two stirring victories. Well last night was more exciting than tonight , but it was a very good win. The same guys that started the rally yesterday were responsible for the rally tonight and two guy you don’t expect drove in the tying and go ahead runs in Evans and Tejada. Tejada is not much of a hitter yet, but he does draws his fair share of walks. and had an excellent plate appearance in the 8th.. The Met bullpen even came up big tonight with three shutout innings. tonight. The team continues to surprise and impress by battling back no matter who goes down.
by graves9 on Aug 9, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yes, more 3 amigos ftw pics
hold it right there padres, or i’ll fill you so full of lead you’ll be using your dick for a pencil.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
According to TC on the post game
Duda says to him in that situation: ‘you want me to bunt?’
TC asked, ‘can you?’
Duda replies, ‘yup’.
TC said he was impressed with that bunt. He said when he was in the minors that they tell these kids, just b/c you’re batting cleanup down here, doesn’t mean you’re going to up in the show. Said you have to know how to do the little things like bunt and hit and run. TC said obviously, Duda was paying attention.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 9, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because he can bunt
doesn’t mean Terry should have him do it.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
by Ogre39666 on Aug 9, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jerry topped that by having Jose Reyes sac bunt with Argenis Reyes on deck in '08.
Wright bailed him out by hitting a walk off homer two batters later. That was still retarded.
God, the list of Jerry's greatest hits
could give a person tennis elbow from the face-palming.
my favorite is still the Ramon Castro/ Omar Santos fiasco
That took all of about 10 min to unfold.
i was at that game
heath bell was the pitcher..
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 10, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember watching that game on MLB.tv on the Commuter Rail
It was awkward when fistpumped the air and yelled “WOOH!”
Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
by Aidan Gibson on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
On the one hand, I never want to see that happen again
On the other, it is pretty funny that our linebacker-sized cleanup hitter is proudly talking about his bunt after the game.
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by Russ on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know how much everyone else hated it
But I liked the bunt there. Down by one in the eighth at home with no out and runners at first and second, it’s OK to play for the tie. Plus, with a lefty/lefty matchup and three righties following needing just a single to go ahead (and a flyball to tie it), the situation called for it. I think it’s completely idiotic to bunt with a runner on first and no outs in nearly any occasion (which Jerry would do even if a stolen base threat was on first), but in this case, I like it.
Your goal is to score as many runs as possible
Giving up an out voluntarily does not help that goal.
The only acceptable time imo to bunt is with the pitcher or in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th.
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by Syler on Aug 9, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
or in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th...
when you don’t have Bay, Paulino (a .332 wOBA and 110 wRC+ vLHP are nice but not worth giving up an out for), and Tejada coming up next.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
You forgot someone
I forget his name, but he’s known as a lefty masher and he drove in the tying run with a sac fly
I still don't think a 135 wRC+ is enough to give up one of your remaining 6 outs.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
135 being Evans career wRC+ vLHP.
(It’s 132 in 27 PA’s this season.)
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
135 wRC+ is basically Mark Teixeira or Mike Stanton, or something like a top 35 hitter in the MLB (park and league adjusted).
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Thanks for the retort without an explanation why
Really helpful
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Tango and mgl disagree
Kabak looks at bunts. There are two false statements being made:
1. "…runs, after all, represent the ultimate goal of a baseball game"
Actually, the ultimate goal is WINS. The tradeoff between bases, runs and outs is not static at every point in the game.
2. "This chart details how many runs a team at bat scores in any given situation. "
Actually, this chart shows how many runs will score in 24 average situations. Baseball is not about just 24 situations.
There are plenty of times where a bunt is justified, not the least of which is to bunt occasionally just to keep the defense honest.
Secondly, any RE chart like the BP ones, are average batter versus average team in an average environment, etc. So even a WE chart isn’t going to enable you to answer a question where the answer is not obvious (IOW strategy A is close or fairly close to strategy B in terms of which is optimal). You would need to use a "custom" WE chart for the exact batters, pitcher, park, etc. Mostly the batters and pitcher of course. Then you have the notion of where is the defense playing?
The nice thing for the batting team is that they get to see the defensive alignment first. (I’ve never said this before, but) if a managers doesn’t have a signal to his batter for "bunt if the defense is playing too far back and hit away if they are charging aggressively, then he (the manager) is an idiot.
Sac bunt: Who the hell is Richard Justice?
4) In fact, if you EVER let the defense know exactly what you are going to do (either bunting or not bunting all the time), you are probably doing something wrong. That includes with the pitcher at the plate.
5) With a decent hitting pitcher at the plate, it is incorrect to bunt him all the time. That is especially true with 1 out (and a runner on first – you never bunt the pitcher with 1 out and a runner on second of course).
6) The speed and bunting ability of the batter is a critical variable in determining how often to bunt or hit away. It is almost never correct to attempt a bunt, even in the late innings of a close game, with a poor bunter or slow runner at the plate.
Duda bunting was probably not a good play. However, that was not because bunting is never good. It’s because he is a good hitter, a slow runner and the defense wasn’t playing that far back, even in the late innings of a close game.
WE chart is often posted as the proof that it’s never good to bunt with position players. As mgl stated in his post, there are other outcomes besides “make out and move the runners over”, and that chart values are for average (neutral) situations. The values are different for each situation, based on who is the pitcher, who is the batter, what park they are playing, etc. The decision to bunt or not to bunt to swing away depends on the hitter proficiency in bunting, the hitter speed, the defense positioning, the quality of the opposing defense. Some people would complain even when Reyes/Pagan occasionally bunt when playing against the LOLMarlins trademark defense.
note: acerimusdux posted about it some time ago.
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by Michkin on Aug 10, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yes, this is a fair summary
But you’re leaving out one of the key factors — the situational change in win expectancy is not just about how good a hitter the bunter is, but also who will be hitting behind him. (This is why almost no one has a problem with pitchers bunting a runner over — it’s not just that pitchers are bad hitters, it’s that the guys who bat after pitchers tend to be able to get base hits.) This was one of the most damning things about the Duda bunt; he was moving the runners up for hitters who were less likely to drive them in than he himself was.
mgl adressed that point in his post (I didn't want to post the whole block of text in one comment)
8) It is of course better to bunt when the following batters are singles-type hitters who do not walk a lot. Funny, you often hear two diametrically opposed and mutually exclusive arguments against the bunt – one, "Why bunt with a slugger behind you – they just pitch around him with the base open." Two, "Why bunt in front of the #7 or #8 hitters, you need to drive in the runners before those hitters get to the plate. While neither argument has much merit, the former one has much more merit than the latter.
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Also, the whole point of having a proficient bunter/speedy runner/defense positioning back/bad defense situation as "conditions to bunt with a positional player" is to have a higher chance of a more favorable outcome.
That increases the chance of reaching base on error or bunt hit and reduces the chance to make an out and not move the runners over, hit into a DP, strike out. The “make out and move the runners over” is not the automatic outcome when bunting.
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Agreed on that
If Duda was really thinking of this as one of those Jim Thome “catch ’em napping” bunts, rather than a pure sacrifice, it helps me feel okay with it.
If I'm not mistaken, Carlos Pena bunted with the Rays too (when the opposing team employed some extreme overshift against him).
And he collected some singles that way.
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I also think there is an argument that Duda's bunting and the (relative) skill he showed bunting
and how everyone talked about it afterward might make other teams more likely to play in against Duda in bunt situations
Jerry would
bunt in the first inning if Jose got on, with the 2nd batter, on the first pitch, before even giving Reyes a chance to steal.
Now that was retarded.
by MetsFan4Decades on Aug 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck ties the game at 3.
Fledgling hope. What can you do?
Irrational Mets fan known for memorable ranting and raving, when things inevitably go wrong.
Not with Wrongz still around
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
PUT WRONGZ ON WAIVERZ!
Waiverz: when a traid isn’t enough.
by tkow on Aug 9, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Aug 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo
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– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Aug 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Trolling us?
They don’t even have fans visiting their own gamethreads.
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 10, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
In the immortal words of a Mr. Lou Brown,
“We won a game yesterday, if we win one today that’s two in a row. If we win one tomorrow, that’s called a winning streak. It has happened before.”
WE WON AGAIN!
and the graphs look beautiful again.
Im so happy i could just

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
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by Cory Braiterman on Aug 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Day game against Phils in 2008 when Delgado had that 2 run double off Romero
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You sir, are a fan.
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-Tupac Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah I remember
And then got tagged out at third…
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Dickey be Praised!
by santana9237 on Aug 10, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to share this incase any of y'all missed it

Obey! This is right from Sny, undoctored.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
by Jsz on Aug 10, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
lol i smell a meme
obey hairston..he requires you to give up hits
I hate Philadelphia so much.
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They Live reference FTW

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
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