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Thursday Morning Applesauce: Mets not playoff bound, neither is Johan

NEW YORK, NY - SEPTEMBER 14: Jose Reyes #7 of the New York Mets reacts after lining out to center to end the game in the bottom of the ninth inning against the Washington Nationals at Citi Field on September 14, 2011 in the Flushing neighborhood of the Queens borough of New York City. (Photo by Christopher Pasatieri/Getty Images)

The Mets lost yesterday to the lowly Nationals by a score of 2-0. It's really a shame to see a decent Mike Pelfrey start go to waste, but hopefully a few more of those will kill any non-tender talk the we'll inevitably hear from the MSM about Pelfrey. With the loss, the Mets have been mathematically eliminated from the postseason. With .500 starting to seem a pipedream, we may simply find ourselves jockeying for draft position in the final weeks of the regular season.

In case you're already looking ahead to next season, the 2012 schedule is now out. Hopefully we'll be a much improved side for next season, and hopefully we'll still be seeing Jose wearing a Mets uniform.

One player we'll likely be reunited with next season is Johan Santana. The team confirmed he will not pitch in the majors this season, and that he will not be making any more starts for the Sand Gnats either. I'm glad to see we're not rushing him back, as I think we saw plenty of what can go wrong with that approach in 2009.

Current Mets coach and 1986 legend Mookie Wilson has embarked on a new money making venture. He and '86 goat Bill Buckner have had a painting done together which they will be selling to make a few extra bucks. It seems strange to me that Buckner would agree to do this, but what do I know?

Star-divide

Howard Megdal takes a deeper look at Bobby Parnell. I think he was clearly confused when he titled the piece, as "who" is clearly Nick Evans. It's a good read regardless.

Also noting the general anonymity of Nick Evans yesterday was Ted Berg. Ted took the time to write a post comparing Met players to Taco Bell items.  

Around the NL East:

Phillies fans can rejoice today, as the club has clinched their 5th consecutive playoff appearance with a win over the Astros. When they are done rejoicing, they can come back to earth a little when they realize they still live in Philadelphia.

The Braves also managed to win, beating the last place Minnows by a score of 4-1.

Around MLB:

James linked this in the recap, but it's certainly worth a second link. Carlos Beltran sent fans fishing for career HR number 300 last night. Congratulations are in order for Carlos, it's too bad that the Giants won't be making the playoffs this season so he could have another run.

FanGraphs take a look at the recent comeback of Adam Loewen. His is another interesting story, as it's always fun watching players who began as pitchers become position players or vice versa.

MLB.com has an article pushing the merits of another wildcard in relation to the AL East. At this point it seems inevitable that it's going to happen, the question really seems only to be what type of format it will be and when it will begin.

Brewers fans have probably seen the writing on the wall about Prince Fielder for several seasons now. While it was all media speculation that he would be leaving up to this point, it seems Fielder himself believes he'll be playing elsewhere next year as well.

Former Met closer Francisco Rodriguez is unhappy with the way he's being used by the Brewers. I'd guess this discontent somewhat increases the odds the Brewers offer him arbitration, as he doesn't seem likely to welcome a return. In case you're interested in who else could net their teams a draft pick when they leave, the latest Elias ranking projections can be found here.

Finally, Joe Posnanski takes a deeper look at the modern use of the closer. While this is largely written due to the recent milestone of Mariano Rivera, it makes some interesting points about the overvaluing of the position. As always with Joe, this is well worth the time it takes to read.

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Even if wrongz didn't light up the scoreboard yesterday

He clearly lit up poppy’s heart.

Some actress from some new CBS drama acting all BurleighGrimes around the man yesterday.

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 15, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

'acting all BurleighGrimes'

I know we have a regular poster with this same, which by the way – is cool.
Was curious so looked up the significance. Turns out he was a spit ball pitcher from early last century, one who was ‘grandfathered’ in when MLB outlawed the spitball. Seems he kept getting hit pretty hard by the Phillies to the point that his team thought the Phills were cheating, maybe having a guy in the old scoreboard with binoculars. The Phillies, cheating? Gee, where have I heard that before?

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 15, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is very cool

Thanks, I was wonderin this myself.

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by Coolpapabell on Sep 15, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

the reguar poster

is who i was talking about

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.....figured that,

since she’s of the female persuasion.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The spitter was outlawed

circa 1920 after the Ray Chapman incident. Active pitchers who threw spitters were allowed to continue to use it. Grimes pitched into the mid to late 1930s and was the last legal spitballer. Incidentally, he’s also in the HOF.

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What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Sep 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I haven't been around regularly but everytime I skim an apple sauce it's always a bit depressing. Has there been any good news I've missed?

amest I bovvered forsooth?
ARE YOU DISRESPECTING THE HOUSE OF CITI
ARE YOU CALLING REYES A POX RIDDEN WENCH
ARE YOU CALLING DAVID WRIGHT A GOODLY ROTTEN APPLE
CAUSE HE AIN'T EVEN A GOODLY ROTTEN APPLE THOUGH

by Gina on Sep 15, 2011 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Good news?

Well, Nick Evans is up with teh big club once again, and is producing. Josh Satin and Valentino Pascucci got the call ups as well. Reese Havens might actually finish out a season.
That’s all I got. Oh wait, Juerys Familia, and Matt Harvey finished off strong season.

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by Coolpapabell on Sep 15, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't believe the Applesauce smear campaign

We’re in first place, with some stud pitchers and slugging hitters, and the Vegas favorite to win the next 5 World Series.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

sounds legit bro

I’ll preorder my WS tickets and my championship hat.

amest I bovvered forsooth?
ARE YOU DISRESPECTING THE HOUSE OF CITI
ARE YOU CALLING REYES A POX RIDDEN WENCH
ARE YOU CALLING DAVID WRIGHT A GOODLY ROTTEN APPLE
CAUSE HE AIN'T EVEN A GOODLY ROTTEN APPLE THOUGH

by Gina on Sep 15, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder

I like IKE at 1B but would love to see Fielder in the line up batting cleanup

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

no. just no

If anything trade or grienke.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fielder in NY

struggles for 2 months, gets hot, gets hit by a fucking bus.

by lstorie1971 on Sep 15, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

And walks away while the bus is destroyed

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by Blame-everyone-else on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't even start to imagine

agressive moves in trade and free agancy for this team. I am resigned to the fact that we will be wading in our own shit for a couple of more years.

That said, Fielder would bolster our lack of power. boy I hope I comes back mashing next year.

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by Coolpapabell on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

K-Rod

not sure what he was told, but maybe they were going to use him to save a game here and there but when your closer goes 19 for 19 since he came over. well you don’t go away from him

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

wait there was a game yesterday?

Was to busy looking at leaked scarlett johannson boobs

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Sep 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

2 yr-15 mill

I’d be ok with it. I miss voltron

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Buckner

I think he’s over 1986. He recently made a guest appearance on Curb Your Enthusiasm that made fun of the whole ball between the legs deal. It was hysterical.

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by apy5000 on Sep 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Loewen

I’m not surprised at how he’s been doing since his call-up. The guy was raking up stellar numbers for New Hampshire, and I’d see that in ‘10 whenever they came to Trenton. Like Jack Moore said, if he consistently gets his shots, he’ll be effective on a major league roster next year. Considering Bay’s suck of epic proportions for most of this season and Pagan being a question mark for ‘12, I’d like to see the Mets make an attempt to get Loewen on the team. Hell, throw in one of Thames or Lawrie to sweeten the deal.

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by R_Adragna on Sep 15, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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