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Transcript of Sandy Alderson's Interview on SNY

During the top of the third inning of the Mets' series-opener in St. Louis last night, Sandy Alderson joined Gary Cohen and Ron Darling in the SNY booth to talk about the organization's prospects, offseason plans, and potential changes to Citi Field.

Here's the full transcript of the interview:

Gary Cohen: What do you see right now from this team, as we head through the final nine games of the season, that you like, and what do you see that you don’t like?

Sandy Alderson: I think there are number of areas where we need to improve going into 2012, and most of those have been well-documented. I’m very happy that we had that excellent series in Atlanta after a very disappointing home stand, but we have to figure out a way to start winning at home. It’s important to not only take advantage of that home field but also that’s where most of our fans see us play. So we need to figure that out.

The team has played hard all year, almost every game, and I think Terry’s to be commended for that. And we need to carry on that hard work ethic, at the same time improving a number of areas of our club.

Star-divide

GC: Obviously the first thing that you’re going to have to do is figure out whether you can re-sign Jose Reyes. How deeply into the process of figuring out your strategy have you gotten at this point?

SA: We talk about it quite often. I certainly think about it most of the time. Somebody asked me today, ‘what are you going to do in the month of October?’ I said, ‘that’s Jose month.’ [laughter]

[Reyes walks] Nice at-bat there. October for me is going to be addressing that situation, which of course is paramount, and then spending a little time in instructional leagues, maybe Arizona. That’s what we look forward to, the first month of the season. We have to take advantage of that first month before free agency is actually established and see where we are.

Ron Darling: With the trade this summer of Beltran for Zack Wheeler, you’re starting to really get a good number of young arms down in Single-A ball. In your experience, what’s the most important thing in developing young pitchers in your own organization?

SA: I think one of the most important things is having a lot of candidates, given the fact that injuries can be so prevalent. You try to start from a large base of candidates and work your way through. But in terms of the number of innings they work, number of pitches they throw, the types of pitches. Obviously, You want to establish fastball command, and changing speeds, and then work on pitches that are going to complement that if they’re starters, and focus perhaps on two best pitches, maybe three if there guy’s going to be a reliever.  It is nice that we have several, big-time prospects coming through the system, and should be available to us in the next year or two.

RD: There was a time when organizations would probably take more time than less time with their pitchers. Do you think you’ll do more of that? In today’s game they seem to, not rush the pitchers, but there’s immediacy for what you pay them and what you want from them as early as you can get it.

SA: We’re going to try not to rush anybody. One of the things that we faced this year was a real roster issue, and that comes from not moving the pitchers of anybody else along quickly enough. For example, we’ve got some players going into the offseason who need to be put on the major league roster, or at least are to be considered to the major league roster, who are playing in Pt. SL this year, may not even be able to play at Double-A next year, but are strong candidates for the roster because of their talent level. That can be a dilemma, too, but certainly we don’t want to rush anybody, and there are a lot of reasons for not doing it.

We want pitchers, and really any player, to be as game-ready as possible when they get here, try to overlook short-term needs and keep in mind the long-term. You don’t want to burn major-league service. There are just so many reasons for not rushing someone, but at the same time, you’ve got move along on a pace that provides value and is timely it’s time to be put on the major league roster.

I look at our bullpen, for example, as one indication. This year, we had a lot of trouble moving guys up and down because we didn’t have anybody, younger guy with options, we could move up and down from AAA. Next year, with Stinson, Beato, even Parnell, we’ll have more flexibility, and that’ll be helpful, too.

GC: You talk about the bullpen, and I know you’ve identified that as being a key concern going into next year. When you look at putting together a bullpen, I know it can be a very difficult thing to do because performance changes from year-to-year, but do you need to go into the offseason knowing who the anchor - the closer - is going to be, or is that something you feel you can work on when you get to spring training?

SA: I think it’s tough to work on it once you get to spring training. The closer role is too important, and that’s not to say you have to overspend on the closer role, but I think you’ve got to have somebody that you can reasonably depend on. It just takes too much out of a club to lose games late consistently. A blown save is a blown save, everybody has the, but it’s one thing to blow ten percent. It’s another thing to blow fifty percent. I actually think that’s what contributed to the 1-8 home stand. At some point, the blown saves accumulate and have at least a temporary effect on morale, including mine, by the way. [laughter]

GC: Do you feel as though your closer in the organization right now for next year, or do you feel as though you have to go outside?

SA: I’m not sure that our closer is in the organization at this time. It’s possible, but I’m not sure that it is.

GC: And if he’s not, and you don’t want to overspend, how do you then approach the market?

SA: I don’t think you have to necessarily have a closer who is totally established. I think you can assess what’s there, who has the opportunity to move up, what’s available in the trade market. There may be somebody who’s about to emerge at the major-league level, even, that one might identify as a stronger closer candidate than you might have available internally. I’m not, certainly, writing off anyone at this point. I think it’s an important role and something we have to concern ourselves with.

GC: As you look at the starting pitching going forward, obviously you’re going to get Johan Santana back next year. Other than that, do you see making changes in your starting rotation, or do you think you’ll have substantially the same pitchers back?

SA: At this point in time, I think we’ll probably have substantially the same pitchers back. We have to hope there’s some growth with Jonathon Niese, with Dillon Gee, some bounce back with Mike Pelfrey. The one thing that we have had, which is a real positive and I don’t think can be underestimated, is the value of guys going out every fifth day and pitching.

The number of innings that our five key guys have eaten is really significant. I was looking, actually just a few minutes ago; I think we have 150 starts out of five guys. You look around baseball, it’s very difficult to find that. Now, having succeeded on the quantitative level, we need to do something about the qualitative aspect of things, but I think there’s reason to believe that that will improve.

RD: As far as the everyday players, he’s not in there tonight because he’s not feeling well, Jason Bay, you have to be happy the way he’s kind of turned it around the last month.

SA: I’ll tell you, Jason’s, it’s a cliché, but he’s a real professional. I’ve seen players, I’m sure you have, Ron, Gary, that at some point go in the tank and give up. It’s human nature. You get to a certain point in the season, things are not going well, nothing you’ve tried has worked, and you basically cash it in, and he has never done that.

I think our players have seen that, too. In spite of his difficulties, he’s been a positive factor in the clubhouse, and so I’m very encouraged by the fact that he’s played well over the last x number of games and weeks, and it’s nice to see.

GC: The last time we had you on, we talked about Ruben Tejada. Tejada, at that point, was embarking on a pretty good stretch of games, because Reyes went down on the two separate occasions. We’ve gotten to see a lot of Ruben over the last two months. Have you seen enough to know what you’ve got here, and that should Reyes leave or should he stay, that you’ve got a guy who can be a starting big league player next year?

SA: I think the short answer is yes, and it’s not just my observation but the coaching staff, as well. I think everybody’s been impressed with his growth as a player. We talk a lot about his improved strength. He plays with a real confidence for somebody who’s 21-years-old. He’s played well defensively at both SS and 2B. He’s starting to work the count more. He doesn’t have a lot of pop, so his strength as an offensive player has to come from on-base percentage at this point.

GC: Let me ask you about Daniel Murphy because it’s a question we get all the time. What do you guys envision doing with Murph when he’s ready to play again?

SA: One of the things, the starting point with Murph is that he’s an outstanding hitter. The toughest thing in baseball is hitting, and if you’ve got somebody that can hit, you spend an extra amount of time figuring out how to use him if there are other shortcomings. I think, if you go back to our season and where things started to deteriorate, to me it really wasn’t about the Beltran trade as much as it was the day we lost both Jose and Daniel. I think Daniel was a force in the clubhouse, too. Not to say that he’s outspoken, articulate, what have you, but just his tenacity, his intensity in the clubhouse and on the field, I think transmitted to everyone else. We’ve got to find a spot for him.

RD: It’s nice in this inning, we’ve seen it in the first inning with Reyes, that first-to-third has to be something that’s almost automatic for this ball club moving forward, those are little areas that the team certainly can get better at.

SA: We were talking about this the other day, you take Reyes off our ball club and look at our team speed, and it almost doesn’t exist. We’ve got a lot of station-to-station types. You see it in a number of different situations, obviously, trying to get a guy in from second base on a base hit, first-to-third. Jose, in the first inning, I wasn’t sure he was going to go to third, and he just kicked it into another gear as he got to second base. Part of it was his speed, part of it was deking the right fielder, but it makes a big difference.

GC: Let’s parlay that question about team speed into the next question about the configuration of the ballpark. Do you see it changing appreciably next year?

SA: How do those relate, Gary? [laughter]

We’re certainly talking about it, and I think it’s conceivable that, yes, we will see some changes at Citi Field, but no final decisions have been made. We’re still looking at different possibilities. I think if we do something, it’s not likely to be subtle. I think it’s probably a decision that we’ll make sometime in October, as well. There’s no reason not to. 

We’ve looked at a lot of possibilities, we’ve done at lot of analysis, none of which is all that precise. We haven’t done wind analyses, but those are a complete crapshoot. We’ve tried to do as much analysis as we possibly can, and I think we’ll have some recommendation in October.

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He had you at...
[Reyes walks] Nice at-bat there.

didn’t he?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

my boy's wicked smaaaht

Good Will Hunting’d

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by murdertron3000 on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice job on supplying the transcript

I was trying to listen to it last night, but I was busy doing other things as well so I missed bits and pieces…

In a way, it’s good what happened last night while Sandy was obviously watching the game…Reyes got the offense rolling a couple times, and while in the middle of a batting title chase, drew 2 walks (one of which prompted Sandy to comment “nice at bat there”)…Pelf and the bullpen threw it away, and the defense showed that it needs work…helps reinforce where improvements lie…

Either Pelfrey needs hypnotism to fix his issues, or he simply needs to find a new address, and the bullpen needs some serious tweeking…and we does the offense work better on the road than it does at home?

Some of our starting pitching looks better than it really is because of CitiField, but as some of the solid young arms come up, guys like Niese and Gee may be valuable bullpen arms…

by vtmet on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

On Pelf

I still say it’s a “framing” issue. If he’s your “3rd” to “5th” starter you’d take his ~200 mediocre innings at what he makes. Pelf is less of a disappointment when we recognize that our initial All-Starish projections for him were just wrong. We need to update them. He’s Brandon Webb-lite, with a bit less stuff but far greater durability. And that’s not without value—fairly significant value that you don’t just run out of town for nothing.

Sandy is saying the right things. I don’t think he overreacts. Pelf’s more of a “change your expectations” guy than a “He’s a bum” guy. Speaking of the latter, Sandy seems more apt to cycle in some new bargain bin-type arms for the LOLpen.

I wonder if we are seeing the last of the Mo Zone and/or Great Wall of Flushing?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

There’s a .11 difference in his xFIP from his best year and his worst year (this season). He’s basically been the same guy, with some differentiation in his K/9 rate, or HR/FB rate. When that xFIP is .11 points lower, he’s Big Pelf, our sturdy, durable, home-grown innings eater. When that xFIP is .11 points higher, he’s Lickipelf, the headcase who needs a change of scenery.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Niese a bullpen arm?

What?!

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 21, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which High A players would need to be added to the 40-man this year?

Just wondering which guys he is talking about. Edgin? Flores? Marte? I know Havens will need to be added from AA.

by David G on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

good question

that comment caught my attention last night as well. off the top of my head i think he’s talking about guys like nick carr, brant rustich, eric niesen, scott moviel, eric beaulac and maybe a guy like pedro zapata, all of whom were on PSL’s roster this season and had varying degrees of success.

pretty much the only guy in that group who i feel is worth considering adding to the 40-man is carr, who has major league stuff and pitched will in hi-a but had his 2011 derailed by injury. similar story for beaulac, he’d be a maybe. rustich has the talent too but he didn’t even get on the field in 2011 and he’ll never stay healthy. zapata has performed well but he’s a 5th OF-type, not worth protecting. another is jim fuller who was good in 2010 but missed 2011 with shoulder surgery, nobody would touch him so not worth considering.

flores, marte and puello all have another year before they need to be considered. edgin, gorski, peavey and vaughn even more. those are pretty much all of the serious candidates from PSL.

by Rob Castellano on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Familia have to be protected yet?

He was from the same signing class as Flores, Marte, Puello and it seems as if there’s been a lot of confusion on that. If not, that’d certainly make this offseason of Rule V juggling a bit easier.

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by Steve Schreiber on Sep 21, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Cohen:

Is Ruben Tejaaaada going to be the starting second baseman in 2012?

me: why did you sign Miguel Batista? :P~. great to read, love Sandy Alderson.

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by feslenraster on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

this part interested me the most
I’m very happy that we had that excellent series in Atlanta after a very disappointing home stand, but we have to figure out a way to start winning at home. It’s important to not only take advantage of that home field but also that’s where most of our fans see us play. So we need to figure that out.

It’s hard not to wonder if Citi Field absurd dimensions have something to do with this. I wonder if this is Alderson hinting that the walls might move in/be lowered.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 21, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

well, except...

in 2009, the Mets were 70-92, but 41-40 at home. In 2010, the Mets were 79-83 but 47-34 at home. It’s hard to explain what’s happening this season.

by alexSVK on Sep 21, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

Let’s not overreact to what might be a single season blip. I wouldn’t mind seeing The Great Wall of Flushing lowered, but moving in fences doesn’t seem to be necessary. Other teams don’t seem to be unduly discomfited by the dimensions; why are we?

by Curtis3331 on Sep 22, 2011 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff, regarding the closer next season

I’m going to start a FanPost about it!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice hearing Aldersn talk offseason

 He realizes the true priorities of the team: re-sign Reyes and rebuild bullpen, especially with a quality closer

by chicagomaroon on Sep 21, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Daniel Murphy

Sandy loves the Murph. Maybe he will trade Wright and put Murphy at 3rd base next year. At least he will hit the runners in and not wiff as Wright does this year.

by lionstein on Sep 21, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Have you checked David's career numbers wrisp

If you would have you wouldn’t make silly comments like that.

by graves9 on Sep 21, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dayvid Wrongz isnt clutch in Septembar!

Traid!!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 21, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Have you checked how hitting works

If you would have you might rethink whether RISP stats are meaningful like that

by anonymous on Sep 21, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

How meaningful it is

is subject to debate by some, but his comment that Wright is bad wrisp is inaccurate.

by graves9 on Sep 21, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're seriously suggesting that he traid wright and play Murphy at second

Seriously? Seriously? If anything, I could see Wright moving to second ala Fonzie and then Murphy goes to third, but they’re not trading wright.

by piazza62 on Sep 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Steve Schreiber on Sep 21, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are we bringing the same rotation back?

That’s a total buzzkill

El Esta Gone!
7/28/2011...We will never forget.

by RudyTerrasasWarRoom on Sep 21, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of total buzzkills

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 21, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who on the FA market will be available....

That wont break the bank? Our farm hands arent fully ready for at least another year. Last off season was considered the last big FA market for at least a few years.

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by BlueChill on Sep 21, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clue:

There isn’t anyone

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 22, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats my point

There is no point to ranting about the rotation being pretty much the same next season since there is nothing in FA market this up coming off season and our farm isnt ready.

Insert witty signature here

by BlueChill on Sep 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finances.

I’m hoping for maybe one new face picked up cheap, a la Carrasco and Young last winter.

by Curtis3331 on Sep 22, 2011 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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