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No Surprises Here Applesauce: Pelfrey Throws Another Very Mike Pelfrey-like Outing, Bullpen Pitches Like Mets Bullpen, Mets Lose Like Mets Have Lost Previously

This doesn't seem to be working.

Go ahead and indulge me for a second and just imagine the most Mike Pelfrey-ish start that you could imagine. Then add in an incredibly surprising Mike Pelfrey RBI double that managed to land on the warning track. Now, look at Tuesday night's box score. Was that similar to what you imagined? Mike Pelfrey was frustratingly Mike Pelfrey-ish on Tuesday evening, just as the Mets bullpen was frustratingly Mets bullpen-ish and in the end, the Mets fell to the Cardinals 11-6 in St. Louis. The game looked promising at the start with the Mets jumping out to a 4-0 lead but Pelfrey gave it all back by the end of the 5th inning. In the top of the seventh, the Mets tallied a run on an Angel Pagan bases loaded walk to take back the lead but unfortunately, the good vibes didn't last as the dreaded trio of Josh Stinson, Tim Byrdak and D.J. Carrasco allowed a six pack of runs to cross the plate in an ugly Mets bullpen-ish implosion.

Choose Your Recap: ESPN New York, New York Times, MLB.com, Associated Press, Newark Star-Ledger

Game two of this three game set with the Cardinals begins at 8:15 PM and will feature Chris Schwinden on the hill making his third big league start. He will oppose lefty Jaime Garcia for the Cardinals.

Star-divide

During the third inning of Tuesday's game, Sandy Alderson stopped by the booth and spoke about a number of issues including the closer situation and the walls at Citi Field. Sandy elaborated on possible changes to the cavernous stadium's walls with the team's beat reporters after the game. Here's the full transcript of his post-game interview.

R.A. Dickey was the steal of the 2011 offseason. But you probably knew that already.

Johan Santana is scheduled to pitch in a pair of games in the Mets minor league instructional camp in early October. That's progress, at least. Jason Isringhausen is going to miss the Cardinals series due to his injury. Finally, don't freak out but Reese Havens has pulled out of the Arizona Fall League but not due to injury (well, it kind of relates but not really). Havens will instead use the offseason to rest his back and to build up some of the 20 pounds that he lost during the season.

Over at ESPN New York, Mark Simon takes an in-depth look at Bobby Parnell's season and how that correlates to his recent struggles on the mound.

SNY's Patrick Flood pens a really interesting piece on the names of some sabermetric statistics and why he thinks some of the stats are able to catch on with the general public and why others do not catch on.

Wally Backman is back on the bench with the big league team and spoke about some of his players at Binghamton, including some of the big name pitching prospects.

Around the NL East

Randall Delgado threw five shutout innings as the Braves beat the Marlins 5-0, keeping them 2.5 games ahead of the Cardinals. In Marlins news, what is allegedly the new Miami Marlins logo was leaked and let's just say this thing is pretty awful if that really is it. Oh Jeffrey Loria, why do you do the things you do?

The Nationals swept a day-night doubleheader from the Phillies, winning 4-3 in 10 innings in the day game and then 3-0 in the night game.

Around the Majors

The Red Sox fell to the Orioles again, this time by a 7-5 score. They were up 5-4 in the 8th but Jonathan Papelbon allowed a three run double to Robert Andino. Luckily for them, the Rays were shut out by Ivan Nova and the Yankees beat Tampa 5-0, so Boston's wild card lead sits at two games.

Milwaukee's magic number is at three as Shaun Marcum tossed a solid eight innings against the Cubs, beating Chicago 5-1.

The former potential Mets investor who came in second place to David Einhorn a few months back has apparently reached an agreement to buy a piece of the Yankees instead. Snakebitten, baby or just an example of beggars trying to be choosers?

Finally, remember that time in 1999 when Mariano Rivera blew a save on that single to Matt Franco? SNY apparently does!

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I like the Megdal piece

His argument is not just that Dickey was a steal last season—or even the best steal for the Mets— but the best in all of baseball. Only Lee has done better and he costs a zillion times more. RAaaaaaaamen.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Alderson

Did anyone else hear Sandy say that, right now, he doesn’t think they have an internal solution for the closer position? He also said it’s something that can’t be figured out come spring training. So it sounds like they make try to pick up a closer, via trade or free agency. He did note, however, that you don’t have to go out and pay the big bucks for one of these established closers to find the answer. I’m thinking maybe he’s looking at set-up guys or other relief pitchers who pitched very well this year and maybe seeing if they can make one of them the closer for next year.

by MetsCity on Sep 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

It will be interesting to see how Sandy rebuilds the bullpen

I suspect even going after set-up men is a little mainstream for Sandy. Any relief pitcher who requires multiple millions in salary is probably off the table.

by TheBigStapler on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

He specifically said that the closer doesn’t have to be established already but instead, somebody who they can acquire and put in the 9th inning, most likely meaning a young set up man or reliever with really good stuff. I’d imagine a pitcher like that wouldn’t be cheap to acquire in a trade but would likely be cheaper than going out and acquiring an established closer via trade or free agency, since you’re paying for saves and reputation. You just have to hope he hits on the right guy.

But that certainly seems like a way to keep costs down and to acquire somebody who’s probably undervalued by their team.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

But I have to agree with him on the fact that we simply don’t have an elite relief pitcher right now who can close out games for us.

by MetsCity on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He also said he wasn't exactly writing anyone off

If Parnell can somehow improve his slider a little more, and just learn to locate a little better I think there could still be hope for him.

by David G on Sep 21, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

That’s a big maybe. Parnell puts a lot of people on the bases. Just look at his BB/9 for example and the amount of hits he’s given up. Even if he improves, you really think he’ll improve to the point of being an elite relief pitcher? I just don’t see it.

by MetsCity on Sep 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlins

That is one God awful logo

Insert witty signature here

by BlueChill on Sep 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh my God.

That is a logo for a baseball team? It looks like it was designed in 1993 for a small regional bank or construction firm, one that’s about to go bankrupt because of subprime mortgages. Could anything look more generically corporate and soulless, more devoid of character and likeability, than that crystalline M? (And have they ever seen the movie? You don’t actually want the angry townsfolk to stamp the letter M on you, you know.)

by anonymous on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

truly hideous

The guy has a good suggestion, basing it on the Miami Vice logo. I would like that.

www.haikuboy.com

by murdertron3000 on Sep 21, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Holy hell, that is just fugly.

Everything about that logo is just awful. If I had a choice of getting to play in the majors, but wearing that uni, or keeping my current job, I’d stay where I am.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be a joke.

Right?

Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

To bad about Havens

They’ll need to put him on the 40-man or risk losing him. I think he played well enough to deserve a spot for now.

by David G on Sep 21, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

By my count...

we currently only have 38 guys on the 40-man roster, though this excludes guys who are on the 60-day DL (Buchholz, Santana, Young, Davis, Murphy) who will presumably need to be added back to the 40-man once they’re healthy.

by JoshNY on Sep 21, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Players on the 60-day DL have to be added to the 40-man roster before the off-season starts.

Plus, there’s a few guys who definitely aren’t staying on it. Pascucci, Thayer, and Batista can safely be removed from the 40. Iggy and Izzy aren’t coming back, and Armando Rodriguez isn’t worth protecting again.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 21, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus all of the eligible free agents will be off once they declare free agency.

That means Capuano, Iggy, Izzy, Young, Batista, Hairston and Harris will all be off of the 40 man and they could reasonably DFA guys like Manny Alvarez, Rodriguez, Thayer, Pascucci, Pridie, Baxter and maybe even Nickeas if they desperately needed the spots.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Sep 21, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can only have 15 "reserves" (on the 40-roster but not on the 25-roster).

Unless some of the prospects are on the 25-roster for the 2012 regular season (Stinson-type), we’ll have some hard choices over those 15.

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA

by Michkin on Sep 21, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I'm expecting a couple of them to get packaged together in a trade.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That new Marlins logo looks straight out of the 70s

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Sep 21, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you for the 'Choose Your Recap' feature.

I wish I’d posted that yesterday, because probably nobody’s coming back here to look for comments anymore, but this is my favorite Applesauce feature, and I hope you remember it for next season.

by Curtis3331 on Sep 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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