Historic Underappreciated Mets
It’s Moneyball Week at Amazin’ Avenue, Sports Illustrated, the MLB Network and your local movie theater. Michael Lewis’s celebration of baseball innovation is back in the news eight years after its publication. And with it comes renewed discussion of what the book is about. It is not a screed on building a team using only a spreadsheet, or a declaration the on-base percentage is the only important statistic. Fortunately, those falsehoods have largely been put to rest, and the achievements of creators like Bill James, Branch Rickey, Pete Palmer and Sandy Alderson are widely recognized. Most now understand that a central theme of Moneyball is if a team uses its resources effectively, it can succeed beyond what its payroll suggests. The search for undervalued, or underappreciated, players is therefore central to the story.
That term "underappreciated" is subjective, and one might think it has little place on a facts-first website such as this. Evidence is usually required before opinion here. But in this case, there is plenty of room for subjectivity. Everyone has their own definition of the word. Last week, Chris looked at some current Mets who might be underappreciated, and I’d like to highlight a few former Mets who might be as well. My perception of public esteem for a player vs. his actual value to the team is the main criteria.
Jon Matlack is the great Mets starting pitcher of the 1970s that the casual fan overlooks. He formed a dominating triumvirate along with Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman, but doesn't seem to be revered nearly as much as those two. Maybe it's because of his pedestrian 82-81 win-loss record as a Met. Maybe it's because he was never part of a World Series Champion team (although he came darn close in 1973). Regardless, the southpaw Matlack is a top five all-time Mets pitcher who is all over the franchise leaderboard in just about every meaningful statistic. Of his 82 wins, 26 came via shutout. That ties Koosman for second place in Mets history -- and Matlack did it in 147 fewer starts. With some better run support and defense, Matlack's win-loss record would look a bit shinier. Nevertheless, he is deserving of admiration as one of the top pitchers in Mets history.
John Stearns played one game for the Phillies in 1974 and bolted for the Mets are being disgusted with the Philth.* In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the hard-charging Stearns played 809 games for the Mets, almost exclusively at catcher. He enjoyed several seasons of mostly anonymous success, stuck playing in the chasm of suck separating Seaver's teams and the 1986 crew. In his prime run from 1976-1982, he posted an OBP of .346. This was excellent for a catcher, especially one also known for his defensive prowess. Injuries cut short his playing career but he still ranks 11th all-time in Mets position player rWAR with 18.5. Also, "THE MONSTER'S OUT OF THE CAGE!"
Dave Magadan played at a time when on-base percentage was not yet in vogue. And that's too bad, because he was awesome at not making outs. His .391 OBP as a Met is second best all-time for players with at least 2000 plate appearances, behind only the legendary John Olerud and his .425 mark. Transport 1990 Magadan to 2001 and Billy Beane probably would have been salivating to add him to the A's roster. Magadan's lack of power while primarily playing slugging-heavy first base made him somewhat of an oddity at the position. Mark McGwire, Glenn Davis, Cecil Fielder and Jack Clark were the prototypical first basemen of the era, leaving little room in the spotlight for a guy with a career high of six homers in a season. Magadan has been the Red Sox hitting since 2007 and his teams have consistently been at the top of the OBP leaderboard during his tenure.
* - Note: May not be true.
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Do we need to even mention Olerud?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 22, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
he can never be appreciated enough
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Todd Hundley
Hero of my youth.. at one point held records for (1) most HRs by any catcher in MLB in a season, and (2) most HRs by any Met in a season. Discarded like a smelly occupywallstreeter when a newer and better model came around.
by Dandy Salderson on Sep 22, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Given how quickly Hundley broke down,
I can’t disagree with the decision to move him.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Turk, Turk, Turk
I feel like we all forgot about Turk Wendell way too soon. He was a real piece of work and a decent reliever too. If only he had made a cool yelling face when he pitched.
Wayne Garrett
Underappreciated, with disastrous consequences. Precisely because the Mets did not understand what they had, they wound up trading away Amos Otis (for 99 games of Joe Foy) and Nolan Ryan (for Jim Fregosi) to “upgrade” at 3B. Garrett wasn’t a star, but he was comparable to (and younger than) what the Mets received for one All-Star and one HOF’er.
Fregosi (OPS), 1970 – 1972: .812; .643; .655
Garrett (OPS), 1970 — 1972: .811; .548 (56 games); .689
this
He led the ’73 Mets in WAR and had a nice little season in 1970 as well.
You’re right that it’s not like he was a star, but if the Mets had recognized his usefulness, we’d have kept Ryan and Otis. Ryan, ironically, is one of the most overrated players of all time, and likely would be on a list of most overrated Mets in an alternate universe. He was still a very good player, of course.
Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!
by Greenpoint Ian on Sep 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
With Ryan, keep in mind
Circumstances kind of dictated that he be traded elsewhere.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 22, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But wait -- there's more!
They also traded Amos Otis for Joe Foy, who made Fregosi look like Dubs in comparison.
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
I just went back and looked at an old board baseball game last night.
When Ryan was with the Mets they had him rated the team’s worst starting pitcher of the period 1969-73. The Mets trading Ryan was as understandable at the time as it would’ve been if the Dodgers had traded Sandy Koufax before the 1961 season.
And I know I underappreciated Wayne back in the ’70s.
Two Words:
Terry Leach.
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
bernard gilkey
president and sole member of the "jesse orosco will eat your children" club.
John Sterns
Was my first favorite Met as I discovered the game as a kid in the early 80’s. Can still see him sliding into 2nd on a steal on our little 19 inch tv :)
by The Domer on Sep 22, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Rusty Staub
As much as Rusty was truly loved by fans in his time as a Met, I think few people today remember how really good he was. Truth is, judging by WAR, his career compares pretty well to Darryl Strawberry:
http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?playerid2=1012440&playerid3=1012606&playerid4=589&playerid5=

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