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Reds 5, Mets 4: Most Heartbreaking Loss Imaginable For A Sub-.500 Team In Game 161

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The season is a real marathon, and for those of us who are here just about every day it gets to a point where you kind of look toward the end and you get excited about it being over. Then the end comes and you get a little sad, a little nostalgic. It's like 'wait a second, what am I gonna do tomorrow?'

-- Gary Cohen

The Mets drew four walks in the bottom of the thirteenth inning, induced a balk by a completely lost Francisco Cordero and managed to score exactly zero runs. Nick Evans was caught stealing after leading off with a walk, as part of an ill-conceived hit-and-run attempt with Josh Thole at the plate, and Justin Turner lined into a game-ending double play with the bases loaded several batters later. And this was after our heroes were one strike away from victory in the top of the ninth inning before Bobby Parnell blew a save attempt. Jose Reyes's 3-for-6, 2 home run night went to waste. Oh, and the decisive Reds run was scored on a suicide squeeze likely called for by anti-intellectual tradition-worshipper Dusty Baker. Barf of a night.

This can't be Reyes's final night game as a New York Met. It can't be. On a night when most eyes were on the Rays, Red Sox, Braves and Cardinals, Reyes put on a show for the loyal Mets faithful. In addition to the bomb home runs, he made what looked like a game-saving diving play in the eighth inning to notch the third out and prevent the tying run. Reyes gave a subdued curtain call after his second dinger, which I am interpreting as a sign that he has unfinished business in Flushing.

Chris Capuano did Chris Capuano things in his final start of the season, throwing six innings with nine strikeouts and one walk while allowing two home runs. That's the Capuano I will remember from 2011 -- about six innings per start with a bunch of strikeouts, few walks and a homer or two allowed. Not bad for a guy who cost $1.5 million plus incentives this season. Bronson Arroyo was Cap's Reds counterpart, and he slopped his way through eight serviceable innings. He allowed both of the Reyes home runs but also struck out six while walking just one. Five Reds relievers each tossed a scoreless inning, as the Mets had just one hit from innings nine through thirteen. Dale Thayer allowed the decisive suicide squeeze, which was executed by Drew Stubbs with Juan Francisco charging home from third base.

Game 162 is Wednesday. This is it -- don't get scared now. Miguel Batista faces Edinson Volquez at 1:10 PM.

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Big winners: Ryota Igarashi +30.7%, Jose Reyes +30.0%
Big losers: Justin Turner -53.0%, Dale Thayer -32.5%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Jason Pridie walk in thirteenth inning +20.7%
Teh sux0rest play: Justin Turner lineout double play to end the game -51.8%
Total pitcher WPA: -7.3%
Total batter WPA: -42.7%
GWRBI!: Drew Stubbs

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by MetsFan4Decades; her effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

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1 MetsFan4Decades 262
2 BurleighGrimes 159
3 TWilliAM 118
4 CTRefJay 117
5 Terry_is_God 110
6 Evan_S 98
7 fxcarden 90
8 Kepler 88
9 aparkermarshall 84
10 Coolpapabell 81

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Love Reyes

Love Reyes.

The rest of the team tonight? Not so much.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

love to see a triple tonight just in case

this is his last as a Met

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 28, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

End it already.

There is no team that has as many unforgivably stupid/heartbreaking losses.

I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.

by TKFJ on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess you're

not much of a Pirates, Orioles, Lions, etc. fan, and this is also your first year as a met fan.

by piazza62 on Sep 28, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this was my first year as a Mets fan.

I would not be as angry.

Started off ok in ’99. Spent my early teens with Mo Vaughn, Alomar and Steve Phillips. Failed Omar era and to the present.

I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.

by TKFJ on Sep 28, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should have grown up with them in the late '70s early '80s l like me

Ahhh good times

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was so stupid. Everything about it. That was ridiculous.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

That ''save'' by Cordero

was the luckiest save I’ve seen a pitcher get since Putz was credited with a save against the Red Sox in ’09. The finish also reminded me of the line drive triple play hit by Francoeur that ended the game against the Phils in ’09.

by graves9 on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

since Putz was credited with a save against the Red Sox in ’09

Ahhh yes. The one where David/Slappy/Ramon Martinez all made great plays to save the game.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Sep 27, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm also reminded of that game but in a different way

When Ollie Perez was even more wild than usual and got taken out in the middle of an at-bat in the first inning after he gave up six runs, loaded the bases and fell behind 3-0 to Pedro Martinez.

by joma16 on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh jeez.

I remember that 9th inning. That was the night Frankie Rodriguez had really bad back spasms in the pen, I believe, which was why he couldn’t pitch. They were hitting rockets off of Putz that inning and I think, ironically, it was Jason Bay who hit the last rocket that Ramon Martinez inconceivably made an incredible diving play on to close out the game.

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by Steve Schreiber on Sep 28, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buddy of mine

who was a sox fan invited me and my friend up since we were both mets die hards. Beckett and Pelf both went 8 i think. When Santos hit that ball, you could feel the wind come out of that park. One of my favorite mets moments live.

by SantonioBurress on Sep 28, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The triple play was suicide inducing.

I rember in the postgame, Gary said something along the lines of: “This is the first game-ending, unassisteed Triple Play since 1890-something…ONLY the 2009 Mets.”

Let's go have a beer, Doc.

by Crazy Nyce Dave on Sep 28, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should have said

Only the 2009 Mets

I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.

by TKFJ on Sep 28, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depressed

I feel more down about the future of the Mets than I have at any point since the end of 2009. I can’t watch Pelfrey or Wright play another game. Pelfrey was never that good (he’s impossible to watch) and the Dubs that’s worth paying 15M is long gone unless his defense improves from the -15 run abyss. The plus-plus bat speed is gone and part of what made him so good was his durability and even that has to come into question. Jose is probably leaving because some insane GM is going to overpay in money and years. Even the manager who was perfectly cromulent just a month ago has been exposed as a bunting fetishist.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Sep 28, 2011 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Over the winter

and going into this season, half the Met fans out there were commenting ‘Reyes is done, he’s regressing, he’s on the downside of his career now, he’ll never be the same, he can’t stay healthy’ and more of the same.

While he did have to trips to the DL, obviously he was far from ‘done’ this year.

Here’s hoping 2012 see a return of the Wright we enjoyed in his early career as well. It’s not out of the realm of possibility.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 28, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was reading Talking Chop,

& I saw a Braves fan say he hopes they missed the playoff, which pissed me the fuck off. Luckily, Syler jumped in and told him to stop bitching(in a polite way).

Go Reyes. He all we got.

What's that about?

by Brian. on Sep 28, 2011 12:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well...

…the Reyes HRs were nice.

Let's go have a beer, Doc.

by Crazy Nyce Dave on Sep 28, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

What the hell was Collins doing?

A lefty was up, and Herrera was already warmed-up in the dugout.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you understand?

Only a closer can pitch with two outs in the ninth

by Ownbey4Mex on Sep 28, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only care about Reyes winning the batting title, at this point

What a clusterfuck of a loss, though

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he needs 2 hits to be safe

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 28, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jose leads Braun by .00003 points

AAARRRRRRRSSSSSHHHHHHHHAAAAAAVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!
Dream goal!

by Aidan Gibson on Sep 28, 2011 6:52 AM EDT reply actions  

i have it as .0013

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 28, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

.3345 to .3358

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 28, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

2011 is the same as 07-10, no real change :{

With this season blown, yet again, my only high point is Reyes winning the NL batting title. Can the baseball gods, that have kicked us like a dog, PLEASE, show some mercy? We had to watch the Yankees and Phillies in the WS, and, now may have to watch that same nightmare again :{ I hope the Cardinals win the WC and beat the, favored Phillies, in game seven, advance to the WS and sweep the Yankees away, IT COULD HAPPEN :}

by PiazzaHOF on Sep 28, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Bobby, you're killin' me

It is getting really hard to defend you when you can’t recognize the fact that Francisco was looking to go the other way with your fastball the entire at bat. If a causal fan, who does not read scouting reports or have a pitching coach telling him scouting reports, can pick up on that and you can’t, you will not be successful. For a pitcher who couldn’t stop throwing your breaking pitch for a few weeks and then not have the intelligence to throw one in that spot, that’s not a good thing. This is not about leadership, chemistry, mental make-up or whatever other garbage people will blame this on. This is all about the fact that you can’t read hitters and execute your pitches properly. Do me a favor; during the off-season, make your knuckle curve and your slider more consistent so you feel confident enough to use them in a spot when needed. Otherwise, why practice those things?

/rant

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Sep 28, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

That's a very good point.

I’m wondering if someone has broken down Parnell’s numbers between save and non-save situations? My perception is that he’s much better when the game isn’t on the line, but maybe I’m imagining it.

by Curtis3331 on Sep 28, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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