ReyesWatch: The Official Jose Reyes postseason/offseason thread
UPDATED: 10/10/2011 1:23 PM EDT
On June 11, 1983, somewhere in Villa Gonzalez, Santiago, Dominican Republic, José Bernabé Reyes was born. A superstar in the making in the Dominican Republic, Jose Reyes was signed by the Mets organization at age 16 on August 16, 1999, and bypassed the Mets' Dominican Summer League team, beginning his career with the rookie-class Kingsport Mets in 2000. His sheer speed, contact, and even some pop in his bat, would culminate into the elements that would eventually get him called up to the majors, merit him four All-Star nominations, and ultimately, a breakout that would propel him to the front of the crop, in a field of baseball talent.
THE BEGINNING
After being named the #34 prospect pre-2002 and the #3 prospect pre-2003 by Baseball America, Jose Reyes was just about guaranteed a call-up to the majors sooner rather than later. On June 10, 2003, right before his 20th birthday, that day came in a night game vs. the Rangers, at The Ballpark in Arlington. After a respectable rookie season ended prematurely with a stint to the Disabled List (sprained ankle), in which he finished 8th in Rookie of the Year voting, Reyes made the move to 2B the following year, as the Mets signed Japanese import Kazuo Matsui to play SS. Overall, the 2004 season, a season riddled with injuries for Reyes, was a disaster; Reyes hasn't played at 2B ever since.
THE RISE
However, the 2005 season, and almost every season since, would be different. 2005 was Jose Reyes' breakout year. Not only did Reyes manage to play practically a full season with 161 games played (159 started), but he also led the majors in plate appearances (733), at-bats (696), triples (17), and the National League in stolen bases (60). Following his breakout season, Reyes participated in the 2006 World Baseball Classic for the Dominican Republic. On June 21, 2006, Reyes became the 9th Met in franchise history to hit for the cycle, in a loss to the Cincinnati Reds. Reyes was later elected to the All-Star Game for the first time. Also, on September 7, 2006, Reyes would hit his first career inside-the-park home run, in a game against the Dodgers. Reyes quickly rose to prominence as one of the most popular sports personalities, and was regularly featured as "Professor Reyes" on the Diamond Vision. Reyes finished the 2006 season, leading the league in triples (17) and stolen bases (64), won the Silver Slugger award at SS for the National League, and played for the Mets during the 2006 playoffs. The 2007 season was just as eventful for Reyes; in addition to another All-Star nomination, on August 22, 2007, Reyes broke the franchise record for stolen bases, held previously by Roger Cedeno (66 in 1999), by stealing his 65th, 66th and 67th bases of the year. Reyes finished the 2007 season with a single-season franchise record 78 stolen bases, which also led the majors that season. Reyes had a set a lofty goal to steal over 100 stolen bases the following year, in a possible attempt to break Rickey Henderson's single-season stolen base record (130 in 1982) - those dreams were never realized; in fact, 78 remains Jose Reyes' personal single-season stolen base record.
THE TRANSITION
The 2008 season got off to a different start for Reyes. At the behest of manager Willie Randolph, he was asked to focus more on baseball, and less on showboating and the various displays of theatrics - as a result, the "Professor Reyes" segment was cancelled. Though somewhat disheartened, Reyes continued doing what he did best. On July 20, 2008, Jose Reyes hit his 63rd career triple, surpassing Mookie Wilson as the franchise leader in triples. (video) Later that year, Reyes would break another franchise record previously held by Mookie Wilson - on September 10, 2008, in a slugfest between the Mets and the Nationals, Reyes stole his 282nd base, becoming the franchise leader in stolen bases. (video) Reyes would finish the 2008 season with a National League-leading 204 hits, which is the only time Reyes has ever logged 200+ hits in a season (and only the second time in Mets franchise history any player had 200+ hits in a season); Reyes also led the majors with 19 triples. In 2009, Reyes participated in the World Baseball Classic for the Dominican Republic. Unfortunately for Reyes, his 2009 season in a Mets uniform was a disaster. On May 3, 2009, Reyes was placed on the Disabled List with a calf injury. Despite some progress during his rehab assignments, Reyes' hopes to return in 2009 were shattered, when he suffered a tear in his right hamstring late in the season.
THE COMEBACK
Reyes was eager to return to playing for the Mets in 2010. However, during spring training, Reyes was diagnosed with a hyperactive thyroid gland (believed to have occurred as a result of suddenly including fish in his diet), which landed him on the Disabled List to start the season. Reyes would not miss much time, returning on April 10, 2010 and missing only 4 regular-season games. (video) Despite having a down season in 2010, it was not devoid of Jose Reyes highlights. On May 25, 2010, in an 8-0 shellacking of the Phillies (an R.A. Dickey start followed by a 3-inning save by Raul Valdes), Jose Reyes recorded his 1,000th career hit. (video) Reyes was also nominated to his 3rd All-Star Game, but was unable to play due to injury. (He was replaced on the NL All-Star roster by Dodgers SS Rafael Furcal.) As the 2010 season ended on a somber note, 2011 brought some solace; for Reyes, it brought a whole lot more. Reyes started off his career-best 2011 season with a multitude of extra-base hit games, a consistently high batting average that led the majors for a time, and an on-base percentage that nearly broke the .400 mark at one point. (video) Reyes reaffirmed his standing as one of the most exciting players in baseball. On June 28, 2011, Reyes not only played his 1,000th career game, but also stole his 360th base, becoming one of the top 100 players in the stolen bases category, of all-time. (video) (That was also the game in which the Mets ended their 299 consecutive games grand slam drought, with TWO grand slams.) Also, against all odds, on the last days of All-Star Game voting for the Shortstop position of the National League, Reyes suddenly took off with a commanding lead atop the NL SS voting leaderboard, on his way to being elected to his 4th All-Star Game. Jose Reyes had an incredible 2011 season, which stood in stark contrast to his 2010 season, leading the majors in triples (16), and finishing with a career-highs in batting average (.337), on-base percentage (.384) and slugging percentage (.493), as well as in OPS (.877). (video) That .337 batting average not only won Reyes the National League batting title - it also marked the first time in Mets franchise history that any player has ever won a batting title.
THE CONTINUATION
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CONCLUSION
Let's use this thread as a postseason/offseason thread for Jose Reyes and Jose Reyes-related news. Reyes merits a thread dedicated to following up on him, as he ventures into the free agent waters, hopefully returning as a Met. Check back periodically for updates on ReyesWatch.
NEWS UPDATES
09/28/2011 11:05 PM EDT: Reyes crowned Mets' first batting champion (mets.com)
NEW YORK -- The final act was not a buzz of electricity but a solitary pulse. Jose Reyes strutted to the plate in the first inning of Wednesday's season finale at Citi Field, bunted the second pitch he saw, raced down the first-base line and reached safely.
Seconds later, Reyes walked back to the dugout, racked his bat and helmet and took his seat on the bench, in what may have been his final acts as a Met. Within moments, fans realized what was taking place and began booing.
Reyes' average stood at .337, plus a few hundred-thousandths of a point. The shortstop hosted a private party at his Long Island home later Wednesday, watching his lone remaining competitor for the National League batting title, Milwaukee's Ryan Braun, go 0-for-4 to finish at .332 and officially crown Reyes the first batting champion in Mets history...
09/29/2011 4:14 PM EDT: GM: Don't expect quick Jose Reyes deal (ESPN New York)
NEW YORK -- New York Mets general manager Sandy Alderson plans to reach out to the representatives for free-agent-to-be Jose Reyes in the next couple of days.
Still, Alderson indicated, Mets fans should not count on the shortstop re-signing during the organization's exclusive negotiating window. Open bidding begins five days after the World Series.
"I don't really want to speculate on what might happen or not happen before his exclusive negotiating period expires," Alderson said Thursday, a day after the Mets finished his first season as GM with a 77-85 record and fourth-place finish. "However, if history is any guide, most players who get to this point don't see any reason to make a decision within the next 30 days. They're that close to free agency. I wouldn't want people to expect that something is going to happen in October...
10/07/2011 12:12 AM EDT: Reyes: Mets haven't started contract talks (Newsday)
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The offseason already may be in full swing for the Mets, but Jose Reyes' contract negotiations have not even started.
The four-time All-Star shortstop said Thursday that the Mets have not reached out to him yet regarding a new deal.
"They'll probably start up within the next few days," the free-agent-to-be said at a red-carpet event for ESPN the Magazine's Body Issue. "But right now, everything's quiet."
Reyes is coming off a five-year, $33.75 million contract extension. The 28-year-old shortstop is widely considered one of the top prizes this offseason after recording a National League-best .337 average.
Reyes had asked the Mets front office during spring training to table all contract negotiations until the end of the season.
Under Major League Baseball free-agency rules, the Mets are the only team currently permitted to speak with Reyes. All other potential suitors must wait until after the World Series.
Reyes said that he would like to stay in New York, but recognizes that it may not happen...
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No I'm sorry but the Skankees are gonna sign Reyes, why wouldnt they
Im sorry adam rubin tejada lol but he just isnt good enough. We are gonna have to trade for derek jeter because he is a winner. and lets give the skankees someone old like r.a. dickey because he is old and he sucks dickey. and then we get Ike David and then we can win the World Series simple
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by Bobby Baseball on Sep 28, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
yup.
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by SuperSantana on Sep 28, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yup.
Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
by SuperSantana on Sep 28, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well played
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by blueandorange4life on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The Official Jose Reyes Watch - Only $100 million dollars

by CervezaVerde on Sep 29, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Is that the one Luis Castillo got Mike Pelfrey?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 29, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I still wonder to this day if he got his watch
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Oct 1, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Time will go on
Even if Reyes departs, time & life will go on and the Mets could still field a contender in 2013 and 2014 again in spite of it.
However, it would be a shame to see him depart. An elite, homegrown SS in his 20s. That´s the type of player a team like the Mets should not lose to free agency.
I hope the Mets FO gives a full effort and doesn´t try to get Reyes via a “low-ball” offer, say 5-years, 80 mio $ which he won´t (and actually can´t really) accept anyway.
Offer Reyes something like 6-years, 105 mio $ guaranteed, with various incentives to make it 120 mio $ if all goes well. That´s a major contract and something Reyes can easily accept if he really likes it here.
If he doesn´t or wants to maximize his value, he can certainly wait for the 7-year, 135 mio $ offer he´ll likely get from someone or a crazy 8-year, 168 mio $ deal if someone is really desperate for a major splash.
5 years, $100MM
I’d love to keep Reyes, but that’s as high as I’d bid for him. If he gets more than that somewhere else, so be it.
While he’s certainly not Reyes, I do think Ruben Tejada is more than capable of being a quality MLB shortstop long term. And the Mets still have a ton of internal options at second base beyond Tejada.
What if it was 6 years, 108 Mil?
Is that something you might be interested in? I would go to 6 if the the average per year was in the $17 to $18 range.
I wouldn't want to give Jose over 5 years
But if 6 years, 108 million is what it takes then I wouldnt be upset giving it to him
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by Bobby Baseball on Sep 29, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I posted my proposal below
I think $108 million for 6 years may be a bit short, relatively speaking
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I'd rather give a higher annual salary
than add any years beyond 5.
I don't think any GM in their right mind would offer 8 years
Though I could somehow see Brian Sabean giving that idea a try. I mean, he already got burned once with that ostentatious Zito contract, so it’s not exactly beyond his rationale.
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This, I would agree with
But, I do want that 6th year to be “optional”, though.
Here was a proposal I made earlier – I’m sticking to it!
I say Reyes gets a 5/$97.5 contract, with an optional $22.5 million 6th year club option
Year 1: $17.0 million
Year 2: $18.5 million
Year 3: $19.5 million
Year 4: $20.5 million
Year 5: $22.0 million
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5 year, $97.5 million
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Year 6: $22.5 million
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6 year, $120.0 million
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The 6th year club option is kind of stupid IMO
I think everyone knows that the Mets would not pick it up, when Jose is 33 or however old he would be he will almost certainly not be worth $22.5 million and even he probably knows that. Maybe if you made it a player option he would accept it but I don’t really see this one happening, unless he thinks the 5 years is enough.
Or alternatively, if you made it a front loaded contract then maybe the sixth year club option might actually be a possibility. I don’t understand why all these contracts are always backloaded. Jose is in his prime now, so why do we want to pay him $5 million MORE when he is older and not as good? I understand we are a bit stripped for cash now, but I am talking just in general ,not just in this specific case. If anything we could at least make this a middle loaded or balanced contract instead of backloaded.
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by Bobby Baseball on Sep 30, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Backloaded contracts
The money doesn’t have the same value over time. 1m today is worth more than 1m in 5 years, because of inflation and opportunity costs of investing that money. If you just stash that money in a low risk investment, you’ll have more than 1m 5 years from now (nominal value).
Before 2009, the WAR value of FA was raising at a 10% rate (“baseball inflation”) and some people also took that into account when making a longer contract.
You could try to balance the projected declining production of the player versus the increase in WAR prices in a long term contract, so that in each year, the player salary matches his projected production.
Backloaded deals don’t make it harder to trade a player, because you can just send cash. If you have a 3y contract 10m per year or 5/10/15 contract, if you want to trade the guy in the last year, you can just send additional 5m in cash. The difference is that you’ll have the interest for that 5m you saved in the first year. If the total nominal value of the contracts is the same, you get a financial advantage if you backload it.
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Oh ok very good points
thanks for explaining that to me
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by Bobby Baseball on Sep 30, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
If he’s still good, he’s still good.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
All valid points here
The only other 6-year option I’d consider is the all-too-familiar vest, which might be passè
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I don't think so
but if that is the case, I sincerely hope the Alderson walks away.
In non-newsworthy news,
Reyes is posing nude for that ESPN The Magazine‘s 3rd annual Body Issue. Now, I don’t care what anybody says (and there may be valid points from both sides here), but I’m not going to regard this kind of TMZ filler with a news updates segment. Personally, I’m not too crazy about the idea.
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DERICK JETAR WOULDN'T DO THAT!
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 30, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith sez "Meh, he is no Capuano. That guy is a specimen!"
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