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Mets 5, Braves 6: Schwinden and Screwballs Not Enough

Chris Schwinden day not go schwimmingly. First, he gets the "Family Night" nickname on FanGraphs, and then he went out and laid an egg in his debut, in front of about four people. Well, he did do something no Met has done before: wear the number 63 jersey in a regular-season game. So there's that.

But back on the field, it looks like Schwinden may not have an out pitch. He got ahead 1-2 on two batters in the first and then got rocked for a couple of line drives anyway. A double, a walk, and then a big two-run double by Freddie Freeman (aided by Ronny Paulino's heads-down hands-on-hips poor defensive play and a missed cutoff man by Angel Pagan), another single by Martin Prado, and it was suddenly 3-0. With the Braves throwing former first-round pick (and lefty) Mike Minor, it seemed like it might be a long day at Citi Field. 

Ah but they had to play like eight and a half more innings. And the next half inning was not so bad. That inning saw Lucas Duda "Dudat" with a nice rope single into right field, a double from David Wright which proved that "Wright is Might" and a walk from Angel Pagan "in the Outfield" -- all with two outs. To continue the improbable theme, Jason Bay (he's moving up on the Mets RBI leaderboard with 48!!) slammed a hanging breaking ball for a grand slam. Whoah. Two of his four career grand slams have come with the Mets in his worst full year. Double whoah.

That seemed to help Schwinden right the schip in the second. He even got a schtrikeout in that inning, allbeit one that was on a ball below the knees. The third inning saw Larry Wayne Jones deposit a thigh-high cutter into the seats to tie the game. Then the curve, which was working for a minute, was hit (if not smoked) for a few bloops off the bats of Freddie Freeman, Martin Prado and Jason Heyward and the Braves were ahead again. All the schweatiness in the world wouldn't put more movement on the ball, though. Amazingly, he also got three strikeouts in the inning, and two were even schwinging.

The fourth and fifth were snooze-able other than a long double from Lucas Duda. That crack of the bat was a shot of coffee, but it didn't last long, as it came with two outs and David Wright flied out. The ox is not a dud, though, not at all. Schwinden ended the day after five, having given up five runs on four strikeouts and a walk. Seven swinging strikes on 100 pitches, 34 cutters, 30 4-seamers and a collection of curves, sliders and changeups. Nothing averaged 91 MPH. Thanks for the effort rook.

In the sixth, Daniel Ray Herrera made his home debut, showing off his screwball and slider (curve? slurve?) combo and towering over the mound. Two strikeouts, a groundout and three fly outs later, and he seems like he might be a fan favorite. That screwball moves the "wrong" way, and is sweet to watch. Even if it takes a while to get to the plate. Any pitch that was last employed by Tug McGraw in the blue and orange is going to go over well in Queens. Plus, the hair!

Nick Evans made a good play in the eighth, Lucas Duda made a bad play in the eighth. The Mets ended up giving up a run after Ryota Igarashi and Tim Byrdak conspired to suck. Then the team had to face the best bullpen combo in the league, Jonny Venters and Craig Kimbrel, down two runs.

Against Venters, they managed a walk (by Wright), a single (by Bay), and a sacrifice fly by Nick Evans that briefly looked like it might tie the game. Against Kimbrel? A single by the pinch-hitting Jose Reyes. Then, two strikeouts and a line-out. Nada.

The team came up one run short, but managed to take a look at some young players to see if they can contribute in the future. One for two ain't so bad in that department.

Unintentionally Sexy Quote of the Game: "He's been doing all the little man things he needs to do." -- Gary Cohen on Ruben Tejada

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SB Nation Coverage

* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Talking Chop Gamethread

Win Probability Added

Big winners: Jason Bay +38.9%, Jose Reyes +13.2%, Daniel Herrera +9.5%
Big losers: Chris Schwinden -33.3%, Ronny Paulino -22.8%, Lucas Duda -17.4%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Jason Bay homered, Lucas Duda, David Wright and Angel Pagan scored +35.9%
Teh sux0rest play: Freddie Freeman doubled, Chipper Jones and Dan Ugga scored +19.9%
Total pitcher WPA: -30.1%
Total batter WPA: -19.9%
GWRBI!: Michael Bourn was hit by a pitch, Martin Prado scored, Jason Heyward to third, Eric Hinske to second.

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by BurleighGrimes; that effort in the TWO game threads embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 BurleighGrimes 136
2 MetsFan4Decades 130
3 graves9 74
4 TWilliAM 68
5 netsareboss 45
6 Russ 45
7 Michkin 37
8 sj10689 31
9 Hoyadestroya85 26
10 Brian. 24

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This is using some hindsight, but...

maybe the Mets would have been better off keeping Barajas instead of signing Paulino.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Sep 8, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know about that.

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by TKFJ on Sep 8, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barajas is making 3x as much as Paulino

And has a .289 OBP.

Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!

by TWilliAM on Sep 8, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paulino is fine if he's strictly platooned.;

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by garik16 on Sep 8, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been the third least valuable catcher in baseball,

only ahead of John Jaso and Eli Whiteside.

His defense is bad, and he only has a .751 OPS against lefties, which is pedestrian.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Sep 8, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herrera got a Shutdown

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/shutdowns-meltdowns/

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by Russ on Sep 8, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Poor defense

Igarashi pitching at all, bunting in the 9th.

Blah.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 8, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Schwinden looks like Christopher Cross Griffin

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by Russ on Sep 8, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Igarashi. Fail.

Terry’s bullpen decisions always boggle my mind.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Sep 8, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to blame the manager for loses, but

Terry played a big part in this loss. Why he continues to bring Igarashi in close games is anyone’s guess. I mean either use him strictly in blowouts or with Izzy banged up call up a couple of guys from the minors. Terry got lucky the past few times when he uses Iggy in big spots, but Iggy has shown the past two years that he’s garbage. Iggy isn’t the only one to blame as Duda somehow didn’t catch a fly ball that almost all corner OFers get to. I love his bat, but boy his defense is scary. Terry also screwed up by trying to get Ruben to bunt in the ninth. Reyes should have tried to steal instead of attempting to give away an out to an elite reliever. Terry’s done a better job than the last two dopes, but some of his moves drive me up a wall.

by graves9 on Sep 8, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed.

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by TKFJ on Sep 8, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double Header - better to use the worse relievers in a probably lost cause.

I was surprised they brought in Parnell; I would’ve brought in Carrasco and saved our 3 best relievers for game 2.

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by garik16 on Sep 8, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lost cause?

It was a one run ballgame when he brought in Igarashi.

Has graves9 said, Igarashi should only be pitching in blowouts – on either side – or not at all. He’s not a ML pitcher.

by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 8, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Venters + Kimbrel are lights out.

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by garik16 on Sep 8, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

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by Russ on Sep 8, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Venters was hittable today

He gave up a run and nearly gave up a three run homer. You do not put one of the worst relievers in the game down by one run.

by graves9 on Sep 8, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

you've been waiting all year for this, haven't you
That seemed to help Schwinden right the schip in the second. He even got a schtrikeout

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 8, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

I wrote it and then went back in and put in all the sch’es actually…

by Eno Sarris on Sep 8, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts from the Promenade

1. I was amused by the dead pixel and the other various scoreboard flaws, though not amused enough to not be annoyed by the large number of Braves fans, or the annoying guy in the back of the upper deck with the long yelling strikeout call.

2. Bay seems to be standing closer to the plate than I recall, maybe this is helping?

3. Every time I go to Citi Field, I think i have reached the limit of my hatred of the Mo’s Zone. And then I see something like Evans’ almost HR in the eighth die right in front of the track (gone in most other parks), and I am filled with a blinding indignation

4. Still in the 8th, Duda has growing pains. He took a step backwards, realized he had misread it and then got tied up on his own feet. Shit happens.

5. Notwithstanding the fact that I don;g get why the man with a broken toe is a good every day player, that drop was inex-fucking-scusable. I don’t know what SNY’s angle on it was, but the runner (McCann?) was out by a country mile. Paulino didn’t even take the mask off, and he arguably had time to realize that the ball was at his feet before the runner crossed. Poorly done.

6. Schwinden is currently being shown up by a 40 yr old retread, who coincidentally also lacks an out pitch. SSS of course, but I was not impressed. Of course, he gets points for striking out Larry.

Nothing really on the second game, it was rather boring. Gee seemed to have something pretty good going and then the wheels fell off. Oh well.

On both games, I am really enjoying what I am seeing from Herrera. Kudos to Sandy for finding a good piece in the Brewers depleted farm

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Sep 9, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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