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Is It Spring Yet? Applesauce: Four Mets File For Arbitration, Santana Unsure About Opening Day, Wilpon Speaks

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Mike Pelfrey, Andres Torres, Ramon Ramirez and Manny Acosta all filed for arbitration on Friday. The Mets will try to reach a contract agreement with each of them over the next few weeks but if the two sides don't come to an agreement, a panel will decide the player's one year salary. Ted Berg took a look at Pelfrey and wonders whether it's fair to call him a disappointment.

Johan Santana has been rehabbing in Port St. Lucie for three weeks now but in an interview, he stated that he's unsure of his status for Opening Day. Although he's offering no promises, he did say his shoulder feels fine, which leads me to believe that he's just being cautious in his expectations. Or at least, that's what I'm tricking myself to believe at this point. Denial is a very powerful tool.

Speaking of denial, Fred Wilpon spoke with both Newsday and the Wall Street Journal at the Owners' Meetings and he had some...well...interesting things to say. Of course, he wants to keep the team and he thinks that they'll be fine in the long run. Okay, Fred. Whatever you say.

David Wright was a guest on Cliff Floyd's SiriusXM radio show and spoke about the potential of trade talk surrounding him and his expectations for the team in 2012.

Rising Apple took a look at what needs to go wrong with the other teams in the NL East in order for the Mets to contend. Hey...if I learned anything from Angels in the Outfield, I learned that "it could happen". Now where's Christopher Lloyd when you need him?

Finally, Toby, Ted and Patrick released their first Mostly Mets podcast of 2012 and they talk about exciting topics like the signings of Scott Hairston, Ronny Cedeno and Miguel Batista! They also welcome Amazin' Avenue's own Eno Sarris, who talks about the team's finances and the possible ramifications of their partnership with CRG.

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Around the Majors

The Yankees woke up from their offseason-long slumber on Friday, making a couple of important acquisitions. First, they dealt C/DH Jesus Montero and P Hector Noesi to the Mariners for SP Michael Pineda and pitching prospect Jose Campos. This looks like a win for the Yankees in the aggregate, although it'll be interesting to see how the righty hitting Montero hits in Safeco and how the flyball pitcher Pineda pitches in Yankee Stadium. Soon thereafter, it was announced that the Yankees signed former Dodger Hiroki Kuroda to a one year deal worth $10 million. All of a sudden, they have a ton of rotation depth to play with between Sabathia, Pineda, Kuroda, Nova, Burnett, Hughes and Freddy Garcia.

The Rangers met with Prince Fielder yesterday, as the veteran first baseman is still trying to decide where to play. In other goings-on, Nolan Ryan is optimistic that the team will sign Yu Darvish by Wednesday's deadline.

Roy Oswalt is still on the market and is said to be looking for a one year, $8 million deal in order to reestablish himself for a bigger deal next year. I'm sure some contender will sign him soon but if it doesn't happen, I would love to see the Mets take a look at him on a one year deal. He'd be a solid placeholder for 2012 and if he stays healthy and pitches well, he could become nice trade bait at July's deadline.

The Braves agreed to terms with veteran shortstop Jack Wilson on a one year deal worth $1 million. There was plenty of complaining around the internet over the Ronny Cedeno signing earlier this week but personally, I'd much rather have Cedeno at $1.1 million than Wilson at $1 million.

The Cubs brought back Kerry Wood on a one year deal worth $3 million.

Cuban defector Yoenis Cespedes is playing in the Dominican Winter League in order to showcase his talents to Major League teams. Cespedes says that six teams are hot on his trail.

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I Agree With Berg

Pelfrey is generally decent and very durable. I never understood those who wanted to dump him, given how little the Mets have on the mound.

The problem is expectations.

Perhaps if we want to shoot for more than 100 losses, and Pelfrey gets off to a good start, we might want to trade him to a place where expectations will not be a problem for him, if he can bring an appropriate haul in return. Given what the article says about the hit rate for pitcher prospects, that should be quite a few.

by WT Economist on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Pelfrey's a bust and you are delusional

this guy pitched opening day last year, he’s a 4th or 5th starter at best.

by crazyremy on Jan 14, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when is being a #4 or #5 starter equal being a bust?

He’s not the pitcher he was expected to be, but that doesn’t make him a bust. He’s a league average innings eater and that has some value. The guy likely will have a long career and throw thousands of innings and make millions upon millions of dollars. There are tons and tons of pitchers that wish they could be a bust like that.

by graves9 on Jan 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazyremy is crazy

Pay him little mind.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

pitching 200 innings a year in the Major as a 4th or 5th

is not a bust, people get paid $5 mil a year to do that

by a hay on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So what?

He isn’t a great pitcher most of the time, and in between his impressive stretches is a lot of frustration and a tinge of disappointment, but he can consistently throw 180-200 innings of at least average quality and that has value to prospective clubs. When you have the Steve Trachsels, Aaron Cooks, and Doug Davises of the baseball world getting contracts and having long careers in which they make a boatload of cash, it’s unfair to call him a bust.

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by piazza62 on Jan 14, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wait.......

it wasn’t HIS fault that he pitched on the opener. The manager was responsible for that fuckup.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 16, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If anything Pelfrey is inconsistant, not a bust

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by BlueChill on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

This. He had good years in 2006/2008/2010 and bad years in 2007/2009/2011. I have a good feeling about 2012.

And it’s not just about numerology. An interview Pelf did in October convinced me that he knew what he was doing wrong last year, and I think he’s capable of compensating.

He’ll also be another year removed from the death of his psychologist, which can only be a good thing. I’ll feel even better if I hear he’s found another one.

by Curtis3331 on Jan 14, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Given that it's almost a crapshoot for a pitcher to develop into something MLB decent

Pelfrey is far from a bust.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I'm on board with Oswalt suggestion.

If we had that crystal ball and knew he’d stay healthy, he’d be good insurance on Johan not being ready for opening day. Then at ASB flip him for a good prospect. Not a bad idea for a 4 million investment. Too bad they won’t be able to scrape up the money.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I love how wilpon said

if we were winning we would be called brilliant is FUCKING dumb, 3 or so good years in the last 20 is brilliant eh? someone should hit him in the sack with a sock full of quarters

by Donovan Rice on Jan 14, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008

All good years. More than just three or so.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not really sure how '01 was a good season.

There were some great moments and they had a great stretch drive, but the team was pretty medicore most of that season. I know from a win total standpoint ’07-08 were good years but boy did those seasons suck.

by graves9 on Jan 14, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah a few of those in terms of win totals were good

yet we were blown away by the braves/phils in most of them i mean good in the sense of playoffs

by Donovan Rice on Jan 14, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

W/L is all that matters

We were above .500 by a considerable margin (more than a few games) and were in playoff hunts for large chunks of those years. Never got over the hump in 1998, 2001, 2007 and 2008, despite getting damn close, but that doesn’t make them failures of seasons, or bad seasons. That’s Yankee talk, if we don’t win it all, it’s a stinker of a year.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 15, 2012 12:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not saying that, but

having a seven game lead with seventeen games to go is a significant failure.

by graves9 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The players have to play the game too

You can’t necessarily blame the ownership because they all failed miserably, especially when it looked for 99 percent of the year that they were destined for the division.

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by piazza62 on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The owners did hire the GM that put together terribly flawed teams after '06 though

and it’s still amazing to me that Omar wasn’t fired after the ’08 season.

by graves9 on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

not yankee talk but

to be so close to have it all ripped away on the last day TWICE in a row, + to see the phillies win won in the midst of it doesnt qualify as good at all

by Donovan Rice on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

2005 was a great year too

We had our two young stars Wright and Reyes for a full year, Piazza’s last year as a Met and the standing ovations seemingly every day, and the arrival of Pedro and Beltran. They only won 83 but that was only 6 games away from a WC berth in a very weak division.

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by piazza62 on Jan 15, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved the way we closed that year.

Made Randolph look like a genius. (Isn’t every winning manager a genius?)

by Curtis3331 on Jan 15, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved 2005.

That’s one of my favorite seasons, actually.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 15, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly true.

The smart money will be on the Wilpons to owe less than $83 million as a result of the suit, which won’t be any more of a burden than losing $70 million on operations this season. And it will mean financial surety, because there’ll no longer be uncertainty about what the worst is that could happen. With certainty banks will once again become willing to make short-term loans, cash flow frees up, and the Wilpons hold a party in your pants.

by Curtis3331 on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Madoff suit is far from being the worst that could happen.Banks have a funny way of calling unsecured loans in.

Mets borrowed using the $500 million they lost in the Madoff scheme as collateral.That money never existed so there is a very real chance of bankruptcy ahead for the Mets.The correct answer would be false.

by Putnan Prince on Jan 16, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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