Retort: Mike Piazza and the Tools of Ignorance
Originally posted on Amazin' Avenue, the best site on the internets
Michael Joseph Piazza was the 1993 Rookie of the Year, a 12-time All-Star, a 10-time Silver Slugger, back-to-back MVP runner up in 1996-97, 2-time OPS+ leader - the best offensive catcher in the history of MLB, who wasn't known for his defensive prowess, but nonetheless led the league in putouts 4 times and assists twice. He is a future member of the MLB Hall of Fame - who had better get inducted on his first ballot - the reason I got into baseball in the first place, and is my all-time favorite baseball player (John Olerud is a somewhat distant second). He is also commonly accepted to be the second best Met of all time, and I wanted to share with you some of my memories of him; you can probably call my title mislabeled or misleading, but frankly I don't give a fuck :P.
For my introduction to Piazza, let's go back to 1997, late August, my family goes on a trip to visit my grandparents in LA. We are a little more than a month shy of my 10th birthday, and all I can remember about the trip is my Grandpa talking about the Dodgers; I remember hearing the name O'Malley a lot and plenty of others, but mostly I just focused on the stories of this great young catcher Mike Piazza. This is my Dad's Father, who bought a house in Encino with my Grandma a few years after he fought in World War II, and who had been eager to accept the Dodgers move to LA after the 1957 season; coincidentally, my Mom's father, who lived in Brooklyn all his life except during WWI, was devastated when hearing his beloved Dodgers were leaving town. Anywho, we watched or listened to every Dodger game while I was there, and I was most interested every time Piazza came to plate - I just loved watching his at-bats. By the time we were leaving to come home to NY, I was begging my parents to sign me up for little league - I was going to be a catcher.
When we got home, I was ready for more baseball, but had always been rubbed the wrong way by the Yankees, so I watched the remainder of the Mets season and became addicted by the time John Olerud hit for the cycle. That winter I got my catchers mitt and the only Piazza Dodgers gear I would ever get. Come the spring of 1998 I was letting about half of the balls whiz by me as I attempted to catch for a little league team. I also watched as many Mets games as possible, and would watch morning Sportscenter on repeat looking for Piazza highlights on off/sick days. There is one lasting Piazza on the Dodgers memory that sticks out from that year - him jumping high to receive a throw from the 1B and practically landing on a runner to block a bag and tag him out to end the inning, but what was crazy and memorable is that it happened at 3B and he was in all of his catching gear, and he had raced down the line to just beat the runner. This happened right before he got traded to the Florida Marlins. Great, I thought, my favorite player is on a hated rival. Fortunately, that didn't last long :D.
I was shooting hoops in the driveway with a buddy when my mom, of all people, came home and asked if I had heard about the Piazza trade. "Yes Mom," I said, "but I hate the Marlins." She smiled and told me, "Nooooo, he was traded again, to the Mets..." I was so excited that I couldn't play basketball anymore, all I could think of was my favorite player on my favorite team - baseball and the Mets quickly became my favorite things in the world. I don't think I missed another game that season, an exciting one for the Mets as they came close to the Wild Card, missing out by 1 game. And Piazza was a huge reason for all the success, as he hit nearly .350 and slugged over .600 as a Met. That was the first of many years that I had a birthday party with a few of my closest friends at Shea, and Piazza hit a HR for me every year he played in my birthday game, no joke. Even though we didn't win anything big that year, it is still one of the most exciting seasons I have ever been through, the first of 14 straight where I have watched as much Mets baseball, and accumulated as much Mets memorabilia, as possible.
Little did I know at the time, but the reason Piazza was available for trade was because his contract was expiring, and so the Mets might not be able to resign him. So, when the NYT ran an article about how the Mets signed him to the most lucrative deal in MLB history, at that time, I just thought it was really cool. The next two seasons brought a lot of joy, and my first real taste of heartache at the hands of the Braves and Yankees, and Piazza was always at the center of it all. Whether he was hitting bombs, or getting hit in the head by a douche, Piazza was the monster that led this team of mostly misfits as far as they got. Specific memories be damned, there wouldn't have been any worthy memories of these late 90's Mets had they not been led by Piazza's powerful bat. In those two seasons, Piazza hit .313./.379/.594 with 78 HRs, 51 2B's, 237 RBI's and 195 runs scored - he was a beast. There is no doubt those Mets wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs, let alone World Series, had Mike Piazza not been having some of the most exciting summers of baseball ever. And it is not as if he didn't have the most memorable Mets moments during those years, my favorite being this BOMB that seemed to signal the end of the Braves control over us. And even though the Mets would stink for the remainder of his contract (way to go Phillips et al), and injuries would limit his effectiveness, and he couldn't make the switch to 1B, I kept watching the Mets just so I could watch Mike Piazza, knowing he would do something great at any moment, and rarely was I disappointed by him. I was disappointed with the Mets not bringing him back, I felt he deserved as many chances as he wanted to continue (and finish) his career with the Mets, and I think he could have made a difference on our team in 2006-07 - I would much rather him pinch-hit in the playoffs over Cliff Floyd, and I would much rather him start over Paul la Duca most of those games, after playing so hard from 2001-2005.
You can rattle off dozens of amazin' memories of Piazza's greatness during his time as a Met, and I encourage you to in the comments section if you don't mind, but that is not what this piece was about - and being so young and new to baseball at the time, my memories are going to be faded compared to many of the readers here, so trying to compile a list of great Piazza moments would be a job better suited for someone else, or a community of someone else's. And this was not a piece meant to sell him as a hall of famer for those who don't believe (if this is you, you are crazy), you can go to Fangraphs or Baseball-Reference and look at his stats, they speak for himself. I do not want to consider his spot in baseball history, or determine where he would rank on the all-time catchers list, because to me he will ALWAYS be number 1, the best of all time. I wrote this to tell you about what I remember of Mike Piazza. I remember his batting routine: dig his back foot in, fix his jersey, step in with his front foot, hit the plate with his bat in his left hand, wave his bat forward as he grabbed it with his right hand before taking it back for a few swings as he got into his stance, staring down the pitcher the entire time. I remember his batting stance: calm everything, standing tall with his knees slightly bent, bat straight up, confident he could hit whatever came his way. I remember how he rarely swung at the first pitch, and how pitchers were still afraid to challenge him with that first one. I remember the way the ball jumped off his bat when he would hit a homerun, as most of his were no-doubters that got a lot of air. I remember how he would be standing up straight, body oddly contorted, face of a warrior, as if he put everything he had into lifting that ball hundreds of feet from home plate. I remember him crouching behind home plate for as many games as his body would allow, the number 31 worn proudly across his back, not afraid to give his body to block balls in the dirt or players aiming for home plate. I remember the goatee, the commercials, the long hair and then the bleached hair. I remember those years and wish I could relive those moments, because they are the ones that made me a Mets and baseball fan for life. I remember the greatest Met that I ever saw play, and I will never stop appreciating his playing time, which now seems like it was too short and too long ago. I remember thinking, if I could be like Mike...
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I was at the Mike Piazza returns to Shea for the first time game in 2006
It really was something special.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions
i was there too
one of the games that def sticks out in memory.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
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I was surfing porn the basement with a buddy when my mom, of all people, came down and asked if I had heard about the Piazza trade. “Yes Mom,” I said, “but I hate the Marlins.” She smiled and told me, “Nooooo, he was traded again, to the Mets…” I was so excited that I couldn’t watch anymore, all I could think of was my favorite player on my favorite team
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
this was 1998
dial-up speed porn was not worth it – I hid magazines under my bed like I learned to do from the movies
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 19, 2012 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Very nice piece
I’ve gotten hammered for my paragraph about my overarching memory of Piazza and his team’s failings, but really I don’t disagree that Piazza was an incredible player, a sure Hall of Famer, etc. (I’m about 30 years older than you are so I’m more of a Seaver/Agee/Koosman/Jones and Hernandez/Gooden/Strawberry guy when it comes to favorite Mets.) But the point of my original piece was to consider Piazza’s assertion that he is in the top 5 list of catchers all time. I don’t think he cracks the top 5 (Bench/Berra/Cochrane/Campanella/Rodriguez) but comes close. None of the comments to your piece or mine have thus far questioned this ranking.
Alright, then I will say it
Mike Piazza was the greatest catcher in MLB history
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Those aren't the best MLB catchers, however
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow
i don’t actualy remember the 3 run bomb that he had in the 10 run inning, i was 6 at the time, but we had a video of the 2000 mets that was probably the only met video i had back then. needless to say, the homerun was one of the best moments in the video, along with any benny agbayani, the booby jones 1 hitter, my first baseball game, the one against the d-backs where dereck bell got the winning hit. i don’t remember the actual season that well, but i felt like i realy watched every game. i miss those mets
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I was 8 years old on 9/11
I wasn’t a huge sports fan at the time; I just knew I didn’t like the New York Yankees, primarily because everyone else was a Yankees fan and that pissed me off. I remember the principal coming into my 3rd grade classroom on the morning of the attacks, explaining the situation and asking those of us with parents working in New York if we’d like to try and reach them. The walk down to the office not knowing if my father was alive, or covered in smoke, or buried under a pile of rubble…it’s one of the worst memories of my life. Thankfully, my dad wasn’t hurt, but the day made such a deep impact on me as a young kid. I was terrified to even get in a car. For ten days, I just wasn’t myself. The experience traumatized me.
Then, on September 21st, I sat down in my living room. I guess my mom just had the Mets game on tv, and I saw they were losing 2-1 to the Braves. I had always been sympathetic to the Mets thanks to my Yankees hatred, but I didn’t really know anything about them at all. Then, their catcher came up to the plate. He looked unassuming, sort of an everyday guy, but he had this swagger about him. I think somehow, even at 8, I knew something magical was going to happen.
Mike Piazza gave me a little bit of happiness on that September night. National writers can moralize all they want about backne and steroid allegations (or should I say malicious rumors?) that have never been proven true or even credible. Mike Piazza put an 8 year-old kid, and an entire city, on his back for one special night. His career accomplishments have been discussed ad nauseum, and we know how deserving he is. If Mike Piazza is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer, the institution will lose all credibility in my eyes. He’s the reason I started watching baseball. Thank you, astromets, for writing this and reminding me why this man is the greatest Mets hitter of all time.
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by nymgb44 on Jan 19, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
thank you for sharing this yourself nymgb44 :)
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At the risk of blasphemy (but not really)...
I’ve always worried that Piazza might get called out for steriods. The skeptic in me also wondered if Karsay put one over the plate out of sympathy. But in the end, Piazza still had to hit it. And it still had to soar straight out to center. None of these things would change how great a feeling that moment was though. It was great to forget for a while.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt the pitcher left a hanger up on purpose
The Mets and the Braves were still vying for the playoffs. On the 21st, the Mets were only 4.5 games back, with 14 games left to play. That’s not exactly a 20-game lead with a week to go.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it was a fastball outside
Its just we say things like “that was unbelievable” all the time. Well that was almost unbelievable.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 20, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely fantastic
You have summed my exact feelings on Mike and done it better then I ever could have. Well done. To this day he is still my favorite Met
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by blueandorange4life on Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions
i remember when mike was traded to us
at the time, i was really into baseball itself, but didnt really understand the whole idea of trades and the management side.
that was the trade that got me curious, and led to my fascination with both sides of baseball.
Mike Piazza is the shit. I will be very proud to be a met fan while watching his HOF acceptance speech.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
by gbaked on Jan 29, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's low quality, next step is to figure out how to improve on it, but here ya go, don't hurt your eyes

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