Call the Doctor
I used to follow almost every Mets beat writer on Twitter. I've whittled that number down to a very manageable few. I grew to find many of them far too snarky and negative. Not that the Mets of recent vintage give cause to feel much of anything positive, but there's a big difference between a fan grumbling and a beat writer grumbling. Difficulties of the job aside, they are being paid to do something that's the exact opposite of heavy lifting, and seeing them gripe about it can angry up my blood. They're all human beings and they're allowed to feel and write whatever they want, but since those feelings and writings were only upsetting me, I felt no obligation to follow the responsible parties.
One writer I've continued to follow is Adam Rubin of ESPN. His tweets are almost exclusively news. He rarely traffics in rumor or editorializing. His tweets generally lack the negative cast of many colleagues. In general, he seemed to exemplify the unglamorous aspects of what a reporter is supposed to do.
That's why I was so blown away by a series of tweets he unleashed last night. The tweets were not only uncharacteristically emotional, but also full of mushroom-cloud details about the idiocy and incompetence the Mets displayed with regard to medical treatment of injured players, most of which had never appeared before in any forum. The tweets raised some huge questions about what gets reported when, and why.
It began when Rubin took slight exception to a statement Sandy Alderson made to Newsday regarding Ike Davis's mysterious ankle ailment. In Rubin's view, this was "spin," and proceeded to tweet why he felt this way. Then, the floodgates opened, as he let forth a torrent of tweets expressing frustration with the Mets' shoddy treatment of injuries in the last few seasons.
Screengrabs of said tweets follow, presented in chronological order, top to bottom. (All are still up there, last I checked.)
Ugly. Damning. Infuriating. Mind-blowing. Use any adjective you like; they all apply. It confirms the worst we feared about how the Mets grossly mishandled injuries, and then some. So why hadn't we heard about these incidents when they happened?
The story Rubin references, a 2009 Daily News feature, does mention some of the items he tweets about here. However, it was in a larger story about the sad state of the Mets at midseason, folded in with observations about their lack of minor league talent and risky reliance on pricey free agents. (As hard as it might be to imagine now, it contains nothing on the team's sorry finances.)
The details about mishandled injuries appear at the end, are couched in much more diplomatic language than this, and are presented in far more oblique terms. The truly damning details you see in these tweets are absent there.
This begs two big questions: 1) Why did he report none of this when it happened? 2) Why is he reporting it now?
At some point, Rubin felt these details were not newsworthy. He wrote a story that partially concerned the Mets' injury woes but didn't include any of this except in broad strokes. Despite the fact that the team's handling of injuries has been a running joke for years, none of this had ever come out before.
Then, Sandy Alderson executes a bit of spin regarding treatment of Ike Davis's ankle (spin that's pretty mild by most standards), and it all comes pouring out in a cathartic rush. Twitter obviously doesn't have the same journalistic cachet or burden of proof of an accredited medium like ESPN.com, but Rubin is still a reporter. He knows that by posting something to his Twitter account, he is essentially reporting it.
Did he just have a Howard Beale moment, throw open the windows and shout out his frustration to the world? Or did something about his work situation change?
Perhaps his bosses at ESPN are more cool with his running this kind of thing than his old bosses at the Daily News. Perhaps everyone involved has been purged from the Alderson front office, so he has no fear of stepping on any toes. Perhaps Omar Minaya's weird accusation that Rubin was angling for a job with the team made him believe reporting details like this would be seen as merely sour grapes.
Maybe Rubin has simply changed his mind about this intel being fit for public consumption and will now write a story about it, or a book, or something else. He wouldn't be the first reporter to hang on to choice info like this for other use later. Even so, it still seems odd that he'd keep them secret, only to put them up on Twitter in flurry of activity late one night years later. All of which would point to these tweets being an emotional reaction to what Rubin took as the last straw in re: the Mets and injuries.
If nothing else, this an object lesson that extends far beyond the sports pages. Even when the MASH Unit Mets became a league-wide gag, none of us knew about any of this, but Rubin (and presumably other beat writers) did. It's certainly not a matter of life and death, even if the Mets seem as if they were just stupid enough to kill an injured player with their ill treatment. Even so, perhaps the previous, grossly incompetent front office regime could have been forced out sooner if info like this had come out earlier.
Granted, that's a big "if," given the Wilpons' traditional loyalty to Their Guys. Still, i always feel more information is better than less, and in this case we had a lot less, for reasons that we don't know and probably can't ever know.
There's no reason to think that's not going on right now, too. Remember how long it took for the true depths of the Wilpons' cratering finances to come to light. Did reporters have info they didn't pass along, or just doubts they didn't pursue? I guess we won't know until three years from now, when some reporter hits Twitter with a flurry of late night revelations.
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don't know why you were so blown away
He was probably one of the first I unfollowed for many of the reasons you mentioned above.
-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan
Same here
I unfollowed Rubin months ago, because of the amount of emotional editorializing he does. I remember, at the start of the season, I called him out on something, saying how whatever it was that he had been tweeting about was “real professional”, and he sent me a private message with something to the effect of “What, I’m not allowed to have fun?” or something like that.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
He DMed me once as well
and made some joke about Andy McCullough, who is basically the one Mets beat writer I still like. Struck me as weird and unprofessional. Maybe it was just the weight of secret knowledge.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Rubin
Is the best Mets beat writer.
by James Kannengieser on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Andy McCullough is also excellent
The rest, not so much.
by James Kannengieser on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed 100 percent
I don’t get the hate. He offers the most comprehensive coverage of the major and minor leagues and has good sources.
by graves9 on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rubin is a great source of information
if only he wouldn’t taint it with “thoughts” or “opinions”
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 18, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Getting info from players/managers/executives, whatever, is fine
He opines too often, and it’s pretty clear to me at least that his past experiences with the team sways his coverage.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get the Rubin hate.
He’s nowhere near the dreck of a Jon Heyman. Adam breaks a lot of news and is maybe annoying 10% of the time as opposed to others who just make shit up and are annoying most of the time.
I'm not so sure his superiors will approve of his verbal diarrhea.
ESPN instituted a memo last year to clarify their social media policy, which included a recommendation to their employees that “their first and only priority is to serve ESPN sanctioned efforts, including sports news, information and content.” And if that’s not clear enough, there’s an additional point that “If you wouldn’t say it on the air or write it in your column, don’t tweet it.”
Who knows what his contract with ESPN allows, or if the rules are a little different at the hyperlocal sites. But methinks a higher up could make a stink about Rubin’s rant if they were so inclined.
Jagr? Seriously?
This is an important thing to note
Here’s the relevant quote:
Given that his symptoms didn’t call for the type of specialized test that would have shown team doctors the real problem, it’s hard to blame the Mets for this.
by TheBigStapler on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
none of us knew about any of this
I’m not sure I agree with that. Nothing Rubin mentioned was surprising. We’ve heard bits and pieces and much conjecture about just that over the years. This is only the first time all these details have been aggregated. Sure one may be confused or question why this all came out now. It seems far more akin to something an aggrieved Mets-fan blogger would put out rather than a stone-faced reporter.
However, Rubin has always been in my mind the best Mets beat reporter and easily one of the hardest working. His reports, though critical of the Mets, have never been hatchet jobs like Passan and co (or even what Manish Mehta did with the Jets last week) but well researched and thought-out criticisms. It seems to me that Alderson’s comments were the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back for Rubin, sending him into a tweeting tizzy.
by chakrabs on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
well
some of it’s “new”. But I’m not sure what a presumably overheard conversation between Ryan Church and Brian Schneider actually means about the Mets medical decisions.
-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan
This.
I remember reading from various sources about that cartilage damage to Ike’s ankle and the fact that the boot made it worse.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Met's doctors full of shit, incompetent
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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 18, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions
Water is wet...
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by Shinjo Is God on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like it was less the doctors
and more the FO or other higher ups.
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I follow Rubin on twitter
Because he is actually quite good at being a beat reporter, and has done a great job diversifying the content on the ESPN Mets blog.
That said, he really is kind of a whiny jerk about the team sometimes.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
i've found
all the truly good stuff gets retweeted by people I follow anyway. And I get less Oliver Perez updates.
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I'm in agreement
with this take on Rubin as well. He does dig down and report some obscure as well as all mainstream Mets. However, I find him snarky most times. His weekly chats really show off that trait.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 18, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm shocked, shocked to find
that there are cynical newspaper reporters.
by acerimusdux on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Being good at being a beat reporter isn't saying much
if anything
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by piazza62 on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Being good at your job says a lot
He is in the business with a ton of hacks and he works extremely hard and his coverage of the minor league system is tremendous in addition to his sold work covering the mlb team
He is in a business where beat reporters are all trying to make names for themselves.
If they can break big news they would step on their mothers backs to do so.
Beat reporters dish out the mundane stuff the team gives them along with player interviews and fluff pieces. Thats all we need from them.
If Rubin had some background info on Ike’s injury earlier in the season, why did he not report on it? Because he wants the inside scoop from the Mets in an attempt to make a bigger name for himself. I scratch their backs, they scratch mine.
The question is; why does he write this now and hurt himself with the team?
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by fxcarden on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I'm not surprised
About any of this coming out. Maybe the timing is strange, but there were signs pointing to the Mets mishandling injuries for some time. Reyes’ injuries seemed to be handled the most egregiously in recent years, but it didn’t end there. We all know how 2009 went for him, and I think most people understood that it was a misdiagnosis that caused him to miss the whole year.
They did something similar with F-Mart that year too. He hurt his knee during a game, and at first it was called a knee sprain. Then come to find out he tore his MCL a few weeks later and needed surgery. A similar problem happened with Ike this year. I really believe he didn’t have to miss the rest of the season, but that misdiagnosis compounded his injury.
You always root for laundry. Of course, you'd like to have good players in that laundry as well.
The Mets handling of injuries
as reported by Rubin….this comes as a surprise to any Met fan? Any Met fan watching Met baseball the last several years?
One night at a home game in summer of ‘09, Omar joined the booth to supposedly do some damage control about the Halladay trade the Mets supposedly passed on. In that half inning he said something I’ll never forget. When asked about Beltran – who I believe was currently sitting out that first diagnosed knee problem with a cortisone shot….Omar said something to do the effect of ‘We have very good doctors, and we like our doctors, but sometimes you have to weigh the medical advice against putting your better players on the DL’.
I was just floored. Yeah, Reyes and Delgado were already down. But to come out during a came an announce to millions that you’re potentially throwing out sound medical advice to get your better players out on the field was quite possibly the dumbest thing I ever heard Omar say. That is until a couple of days later when that Bernazard story hit and he held that press conference announcing his firing.
Now…fast forward and we have a new GM. As much as I like Sandy, I’m not surprised he wouldn’t come right out and say the doctors missed the diagnosis and quite possibly made the situation worse. Although at this stage of them game, he might as well come right out and admit these type of things. Not gonna surprise too many Met fans.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions
Although publicly admitting this is rare
I assume it goes on all the time. Sports management is infamous for putting players’ long term health at risk with this kind of pressure. It made a certain amount of malicious sense back in the day when the players were just disposable disk towels for owners and management to use up and throw away. But the attitude persists even now that the players are fragile, multi-million dollar investments and the risk equations are completely inverted.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” — Robert J. Hanlon
I'll agree with all this.
And I’m willing to bet more GMs than just Omar take the path he did.
But not many come out on a televised ball game and admit it to all fans…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 18, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
This is all old news
I didn’t hear anything other than maybe the Wagner one that I hadn’t heard before. (But I think there might have been some kind of drama around the situation at the time)
But I’m not sure they’re all THAT big of a deal to be honest. At least in terms of the FO involvement. The Chuch one was a big mistake, but the details on that one are sketchy and it seems like that might have been more on the medical staff than anything.
In the Wagner one obviously FO people shouldnt be saying that sort of thing, but I don’t know if that actually had any influence on how the injury was handled. Putz was a screw up and maybe most illustrates his point (and a double screw up given the mets didnt have Putz take a physical when they traded for him) since they were directly told something, but most of the others are kind of “ehh”
Its not like players on other teams never play though injuries…especially when they are “swollen knees” and muscle strains (especially ones thought to be minor).
None of this is new
What’s different is that it was sequenced together and given a damning conclusion at the end.
You are correct though that this tweet would have been more useful as an article (official and on paper) rather than some pissed off stream of consciousness posted on Twitter.
Yes, most of this was known
And the article you suggest would have been a lot more useful during all those years in which we were pulling our hair out at the way the team handled (or ignored) injury.
One thing I wondered when I first saw these was
is the Mets handling of injuries any different than any other team? Don’t all coaches/players/etc. believe in “rubbing some dirt on it” and “manning up” and “playing through pain”?
Of course, the damning thing is that it is supposed to be the front office that exercises good judgement and restraint in these matters.
I have to say tho, the Ike thing seems kinda different to me. In that case, the doctors made an educated though ultimately incorrect judgement about how to proceed with Ike’s treatment. This does happen even with the best medical professionals. In earlier cases, it seems like the FO colluded with the coaching staff to rush injured players back too soon.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions
#blamebeltran
Can you believe Beltran Crawford waiting until January to have his knee wrist surgery? Clearly he doesn’t care about being ready to play for the team.
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point being
why confuse the public by lumping Ike in with these other stories. It seems to me that all that does is make it seem that the current FO does things exactly the same way as the previous FO, which even Rubin says is not the case.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Front Office
Honestly I don’t put much blame on the GM is most of these cases. It’s really on the medical team and the coaching staff. Medical staff to make sure they get the diagnosis right and treat it properly, and coaching staff to not put undue pressure on these players to go out there when they really shouldn’t. I don’t really hold Minaya or Alderson responsible for any of these situations.
You always root for laundry. Of course, you'd like to have good players in that laundry as well.
i agree to a certain extent
but for example it does seem that the Alderson administration has been more willing to just DL injured players right away. Of course, the FO can’t do anything if a player/the training staff doesn’t let on that there is an injury (i’m thinking of Dubs playing with a broken back for two months) but there is no way most FOs—the Alderson regime included—let their star player out onto the field to bat righthanded with an oblique injury. And yet that happened under Minaya.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
manager
I think that speaks more to the disagreement on who had the power to make decisions late in Minaya’s tenure.(also see: Meija) Doctors said it was okay there too if I recall, and it was Manuel who wanted to bat him that way.
But yeah, they knew Wright was having back pain for a month. It was only when he wasn’t healing that they figured they better do something about it.
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The Mets did know that Wright was hurt
he probably downplayed it, and he was the one who wanted to avoid the MRI…but the Mets did know that he was playing in pain, so it wasn’t as if Wright kept the injury completely secret from them. I think that might have been the only mistake this FO made with injuries..but still that is a hard one…you aren’t going to force players to take MRIs every single time something happens and if a player says he can play and goes out there you are probably going to act differently than if he says he can’t play…but it does seem like they probably should have acted sooner than they did with Wright.
The Reyes one…I don’t know, it kind of sounds worse than it is IMO. Guys do play though muscle tweaks all the time. And i do remember their being some other switch hitters over the years who for short periods of time were hurt and could only swing from one side of the plate, but still played. Maybe they sat out the games instead of batting righty against a righty,,,but I don’t think this situation is that appalling. And we don’t even know what the FO was told…if they were told by the docs that he shouldnt play at all, yea thats a screw up…but I don’t know if that was the case. I think they said (though I suppose they could have been lying) that the doctors told him he could play and that he wouldnt make the injury worse.
I know from experience
diagnosing ligament/cartilage damage can be tricky at times. Doesn’t always show up initially. Then again, you would think with direct care to what’s supposed to be the best doctors it wouldn’t be missed. But I think that’s why the call it ‘practicing’ medicine…..
I’m LOL remember Chipper admonishing young Heyward, implying he’s a wimp and sometimes you just have to get back to the field and work through some of the pain.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
yeah exactly
it’s just the culture of sports right?
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
A good point
I know, historically, there was a stigma about being placed on the DL, and guys went out of their way to play through pain so that they wouldn’t be placed on it. Nowadays, I don’t know- I would assume that, like strikeout accumulation, it’s seen as less of a big deal, but…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I don't get this either
Why doesn’t the Red Sox medical team get so much national attention for the assorted Jenks, Drew, and Youk injuries? That isn’t even mentioning how Crawford and Lackey played like dogshit all year and it comes out now that they both needed serious surgery…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure there is necessarily a coherent story here
tSure looking at all the injuries compiled together looks bad, but its kind of a mixed bag. Some of them have legitimately been problems with the diagnosis (like Ike, and I think it was initially reported that the Mets didnt think Church had a concussion, maybe Reyes)…but sometimes thats the nature of medicine, I don’t know if that means the docs did a bad job (but thats not even where Rubin was going with this, so that doesnt really matter) Outside of Putz, I don’t know if there are direct stories of the Mets actually ignoring medical advice.
There were a number of players who’s rehabs didn’t go well and had a bunch of setbacks (Reyes, Delgado) or players played through injuries, but so far I haven’t heard anything to directly indicating that the Mets forced those guys back onto the field/into rehab against medical advice.
What is surprising here?
Rubin retweeted some of the mets more pathetic moments of injury handling when. discussing the latest Davis injury. We knew most of them, if not all. So what exactly ia the problem?
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by Rey-O on Jan 18, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The Wilpons are garbage owners
and here Adam shares just a couple of the reasons why.
Honest question
How much has the organization’s process and culture with regard to injuries changed since Alderson came in and cleaned house?
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On one hand you have Rubin, who clearly thought he’d be one of those Ivy League GM’s by now, but is still just a beat writer. He hung on to this information until no one really cared about it, probably because he didn’t want to ruin his shot at a front office job. I’d say shame on him if every other beat writer wasn’t equally negligent.
And Wilpon, whose WFAN Mongo Owner profile in that magazine interview makes me believe this is only the tip of the iceberg.
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The one that really bothers me is the Schneider one
If he felt the trainers wouldn’t even want to hear about a potential injury they shouldn’t be allowed to clean the Citi Field bathrooms.
I don't have as much of a problem with that one
because it’s overhearing someone imply something. Ultimately, if he feels he needs to go to the trainer, he needs to go to the trainer.
Yeah I could see that one having more than one meaning
It seems like Rubin was implying that Schneider was told to GTFO when he went to the trainers to talk about that or another injury. But just based on that one statement, I don’t know if I would jump to the conclusion that that is the case.
It could have just been a commenting referencing the onslaught of injuries…like with everything going on they probably don’t want to be dealing with a little swollen knee..
Why wasn't some of this reported more?
I think at least some of these details are new.
Virtually everyone involved at the time told me they screwed it up with Ike. They actually were petrified it would come out.
It kind of struck me funny here that everyone would be telling a reporter something they were afraid would come out.
But I guess reporters do have to balance things; some things are said on background, some off the record, some without attribution. What a reporter reports can have significant impact on access. It can be risky to anger the team too much, or to anger individual players. In the end, they try to be fair, and protect their sources, and still get the most important information out there.
The Brian Schneider/Ryan Church exchange, was that reported at the time?
I’ll have to look it up, but I think I remember a more vauge reference, unattributed, that suggested this kind of thing was going on, but without this degree of specificity. And every time Adam or another reporter writes one of those stories where the details aren’t given, it seems there are fans who wrongly will suggest the sources are just made up. But there are pretty good reasons why, for example, Brian Schneider might not have wanted that quote to appear next to his name at the time.
Still, I think it’s worth questioning how much “access” determines what can be reported.
by acerimusdux on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
At the time or sometime shortly after it occurred
the Schneider/Church thing was reported as a convo overheard b/w two “unnamed” Mets.
Then sometime last yr (or the yr before) Rubin reported it being Schneider and Church
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It kind of struck me funny here that everyone would be telling a reporter something they were afraid would come out.
I said the same thing to myself.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
He basically sounds like a pissed-off, frustrated fan.
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by Dandy Salderson on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions
The worst offense of all
was easily letting Ryan Church onto the airplane after his concusion in Atlanta. If that doesn’t scream incompetence i don’t know what does.
Concussions aren't something you want to mess with
But still its not like the Mets were the only team to do that.
I remember Hiroki Kuroda getting drilled in the head by a line drive, and being carted off the field.. He too was diagnosed with a concussion by made the flight with his team the next day.
I think initially they might have misdiagnosed Church’s injury….thinking he didn’t actually have a concussion or underestimating the severity. The bigger mistake with Church was probably delaying things so long and still letting him play (at least PH) while he was still having problems.
The PHing is the worst thing, IMO
If he’s not 100% better, don’t clear him to play. Period.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 18, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like we knew this issue was real
but some how we shrugged it off. now we have evidence that our Med staff is led by nick Riviera and the Dr from family guy.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The fact that one can call Rubin one of the better Mets beat reporters
speaks to the sad state of beat reporting these days. He obviously does work hard to get his info, but there is little joy or entertainment in his writing. To me, he doesn’t come off as someone who even likes baseball. And, he clearly loves to twist the knife on Mets fans. Any minor bad news is reported by him as being much worse than it is. He’s an alarmist.
He's an alarmist?
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the mets have been god terrible the last two years and aren’t improving to contender status anytime soon. No reason to sound the alarm. The ship is already sunk. He’s just writing the obituary.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 19, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Interestingly he didn't mention Wrights ginormous hat or Ollies 'mysterious' reoccurring knee problem.
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 19, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Or the fact that Bobby Bonilla is still being paid
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 19, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wright's ginormous hat? Big head?
Someone tell Murray Chass so he can get the word out that Wright is on steroids.

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