in my world, best lineup change

if we had a defensively above average center fielder. Jason bay has played CF no more than a handful of times in recent memory, and he’s not particularly adept at it. That outfield would be horrendous with Murph, Bay, and Duda across. I mean we’re talking epic levels of horrible. Furthermore, Turners OBP is basically the definition of mediocre. Why would we want him leading off? If I was going to go with an unconventional leadoff, i’d go Duda or maybe Murph, but certainly not Turner. Grittiness (or grission in the parlance of our colleagues here) can be fun to watch, but it doesn’t replace ability. If Turner can’t get on base, he can’t lead off, simple as that. Same goes for Bay being “hard-nosed”. I’ll admit, Bay strikes me as the type that plays hard every day, but that doesn’t change the fact he’s not a particularly good CF, and if you have Duda and Murphy flanking him it’s an invitation to comedy. Also this would probably find a better home as a chat fanshot for future reference.

No, bad idea, no, no

Jerry, is that you?

But you can’t really ever land on just how bad. Bravo.

I love the emphasis on Jason Bay moving “BACK” to center field. Back to a position he’s played 274 innings at, and 0 since 2005 when he was 26. I won’t even bother with the Justin Turner over Andres Torres nonsense and the other wretchedness.

Again, bravo birdmansns. I really hope you’re the defensive type.

“move jason back BACK to CF”

BACK? Does anyone think 30 games years ago means he was a centerfielder? I know there was some serious talk a few year(s) ago about sticking him there, but any 8 year old kid can look at that defensive section on B-R and know he isn’t a damn center fielder. COME ON!

With the emphasis on BACK I think we may be being trolled. Or maybe I’m just hoping nobody is really this stupid.

So this is not a total logic and grammar fail.

im not defensive and im not gonna fight people on this, its just what i would like to see.

im sorry i dont think highly of torres.

and ps bay played 30 major league games in CF, he also played CF in the minors and growing up.

sorry guys.

And I fully regret it

and hearing/reading differences of opinions my fellow Met fans have, you just lost me with ‘Move Murphy back to LF’. I know many took exception with Bay to CF idea, but I honestly couldn’t get past the Murphy to LF suggestion.

You could tell where this was going one sentence into the post. Was hoping for a funnier one though. And even if St. Louis had a terrible defensive outfield… Berkman & Holliday > Bay & Murphy…. oh yeah and that other guy they had at 1B was pretty good too.

torres is a miserable lead off hitter and beyond prone to striking out. hes not even extraordinary speed wise. if u check his and turners offensive numbers from last season they are similair minus turner drove in alot more(probably due to our offense compared to sf) and the strikeouts. plus turner had a thumb injury and torres and leg injury.

the kids younger and plays harder…

It just doesn’t make sense.

I will say that I am not as completely and totally against trying Murph in LF again as most people seem to be. He looked ok there in 2008…I think in 2009 he made some mistakes and things kind of snowballed for him. But to me Murph in LF would only make sense under the right circumstances…they had a really good 2b and a good option for CF (especially with Duda being in RF). But Turner and Bay are not those guys at all. I am not one to get overly obsessed with defense, but Murphy-Bay-Duda might be the worst defensive OF ever.

And Turner is likeable and all, but he’s just not that good. And if for some reason he does find himself in the starting lineup, he shouldn’t be the leadoff hitter.

It looks good at first glance and I think the team would be very grizziony, but if you have Turner starting at second base, shouldn’t he be batting second? That part confuses me to no end.

logic – you cant hid murphy anywhere, so why not get turner back in this lineup as a gritty leadoff hitter nd keep murphys OBP ahead of our “power” hitters.