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Cody Ross and the Ranks of the Unforgiven


Over the weekend, the Mets' interest in free agent outfielder Cody Ross entered the rumor mill. From a pure roster standpoint, it's a thoroughly "meh" move (if it does indeed happen, which still seems up in the air as of this writing). He'd likely be a fourth outfielder, platooning with a lefty bat, presumably insurance for the hopefully imminent arrival of Kirk Nieuwenhuis or if Sandy Alderson finds a salary dump location for Jason Bay.

From a purely personal point, however, I can't stand that guy, and the idea of being forced to root for him is distasteful to me. Not quite as bad as when I found myself having to clap when Jeff Francoeur did things in a Met uniform, but definitely in the same gag-inducing ballpark.

I can't quite articulate why I feel this way, mind you. There was the incident back in 2008 where he tried to start a brawl with Mike Pelfrey. ("It seemed like he got a little more fired up when 24 [teammates] were behind him," Pelf observed at the time.) In his days with the Marlins, I know he burned the Mets more than a few times in terrible games at what Jason Fry calls Soilmaster Stadium, though I can't recall a specific occasion.(If you can, please don't remind me.) Maybe I associate him with the Marlins teams of 2007 and 2008 that delighted in keeping the Mets out of the playoffs.

He just seems like a punk to me is all, and not the good kind. When I picture him in my head, I see him mouthing off from the batter's box or the bench for some stupid reason, screaming at umps or the opposing pitcher for some slight, real or imagined. This may be totally unfair, but hey, sometimes feelings are unfair. And based on an informal poll of fans of other teams, I take it that dislike of Ross is not confined to Mets partisans. He appears to be reviled pretty much across the NL East spectrum.

We all root for laundry, of course, and I'm sure I'll hold my nose and cheer for Ross if he does, in fact, become a Met. But it does raise an interesting question: Is there anyone currently playing that, if he joined the Mets, you absolutely could not root for?

For me, the only person I can think of is Chipper Jones. I don't think I could ever wish anything good to happen to him, and if, through some sci-fi conceit, he somehow wound up on the Mets, I'd still have to boo him. This will never happen, of course, but I think that in some part of himself, Chipper would actually want to join the Mets for the simple reason that it would drive their fans insane. He is that evil.

Is there someone like that for you, someone you consider so awful that not even your favorite team's uniform can cover up his sins? If so, please post your most hated men in the comments.

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A few come to mind

Carlos Beltran

Joe Paterno

John Rocker

Fred Wilpon

by IanB in MD on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Jeff Francoeur

Wait what?

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by Aidan Gibson on Jan 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'd root for Chipper. I hate him because he destroys us, not because of his character or anything

Heck, I’d probably root for Victorino too.

The only two active guys I can think of are Guillermo Mota and Josh Lueke. Mota because he fucked us over in 2006 and 2007, and Lueke because he’s a rapist P.O.S.

Oh, and Brett Myers too probably although I’m not sure.

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by Syler on Jan 23, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Cussing is great.

It has its place when appropriate.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jan 23, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just don't go overboard with it,

and we’ll all live like damn hell ass kings.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 23, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Guillermo Mota

Ugh…thanks for making it a reality Omar.

Myers is a good one too

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Dicktorino, Papelbum, Molina (the smirk one), Cogz4hate

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by Michkin on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Brett Myers and Luebke would be two guys I couldn't root for

Different sport but I could never root for scumbags like Patrick Kaleta and Matt Cooke. I also couldn,t root for a rapist like Big Ben or a. Dog killer like Vick.

by graves9 on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think you mean Josh Lueke without the B

Cory Luebke with a B in the last name is a young pitcher for the Padres who will probably be their ace this year. I think you would not have a problem rooting for him if he were a Met.

My choices for baseball at least would be (in no particular order): Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Chipper, Victorino, Rollins, Ollie Perez, and probably Jeter.

by crazycarLUXC on Jan 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

with some caveats

Not a Mets fan anymore, and this player is not active, but there was a pitcher named Kaz Tadano that I could never root for. He was a Japanese pitcher who appeared in a gay porn movie in Japan and basically got him exiled from Japanese baseball. I don’t really care if he’s gay or whatever but the stupidity that he would appear in a gay porn movie while trying to make a living in baseball is something I could not get over, ever. He ended up with a cup of coffee with the Cleveland Indians and did pitch a year in Japan.

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by closetasfan on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

I was a Mets fan

during Piazza, Ventura, Valentine, Zeile days. I was a big fan of Todd Hundley. But when that team was torn up, I lost my interest.

I'm not impressed by your performance......

by closetasfan on Jan 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh...

I’m afraid you missed my point. ‘Closet’ was the word I noticed.

by sebastiandeluded on Jan 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, I get it.

I'm not impressed by your performance......

by closetasfan on Jan 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear at first glance that said

‘Closet Ass Fan’ Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it seemed hypocritical given the nature of your post.

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by brooklynberger on Jan 23, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I'm not the only one who saw that way.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 23, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

nope me too

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

all of you are killing me

but I have to say its not uncommon. Perhaps I should change my handle. sigh.

I'm not impressed by your performance......

by closetasfan on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

its ok, the double take we all did makes the name more fun

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly

since I didn’t bother clicking on your name, I couldn’t figure out what you were going for earlier. It just hit me when I read this comment, and then checked your profile to be sure, you’re an A’s fan! A rare breed round these parts

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by astromets on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

You obviously care about his sexual orientation if you can't root for him because he appeared in a film.

That’s all I’m saying. It’s not worth getting into it with someone who can’t root for a guy because he appeared in a gay porn film, but not because he’s gay, no! It’s because he was trying to make a better living. Wait, what?

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by BlackOps on Jan 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I could never root for Carlos Beltran when he was here

He never got the big hits when they counted, and was always him first, team second. He never deserved that contract he got and I’m glad he’s gone. The absolute definition of a loser, no wonder the Yankees didn’t want him. At least they have class.

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by piazza62 on Jan 23, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You couldn't detect

the biting sarcasm and cutting edge humor?

Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.

by StorkFan on Jan 23, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if serious....

My sarcasm detector detected sarcasm in Ian’s earlier Beltran post.

But it seems to be malfunctioning here and is indecisive. You aren’t serious are you?

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he is serious, we are talking about fan perception.

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by Michkin on Jan 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not perception, truth

That was the only bad move Omar ever made. You forgot how bad it was because Sandy has run the team into the ground anyway #firesandyalderson #firedantoni

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by piazza62 on Jan 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If you replace Beltran with D-Wrong

that would be a pretty accurate Bayonne imitation

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Your trolling skills suck.

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by Syler on Jan 23, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

I was reading Greg Pomes’ Twitter feed and I wanted to see how someone could be like that without their head exploding.

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by piazza62 on Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying to understand Pomes...

…is a fool’s errand, my friend.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 23, 2012 5:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think he's a caricature of himself at this point

Probably doesn’t even believe what he says. He just likes the attention

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You forgot to say TRAID TEH CORE!

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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

First person that comes to mind is Chipper

After further inspection, Rollins, Victorino, Rocker.

by momill15 on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Chipper is like Reggie Miller . . .

A guy you love to hate, but ultimately respect. I won’t begrudge him the hall of fame. Now, Rocker, he was a dirtbag, douchenozzle.

by goquakers on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

Reggie was (and still is) actually a straight up jerk. Granted, Spike Lee was acting like an idiot in that game too, but Reggie’s choking motion is one of the douchiest things I’ve ever seen an athlete do. Chipper never shows us up. He just destroys us repeatedly with his bat.

by Joamiq on Jan 24, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Rollins

and Cole Hamels immediately came to my mind.

I could have rooted for Chipper – even though he’s the #1 modern day Met killer in my mind. As much as he did that and it’s fun to hear the boos every time he comes to the plate, I’ve got some respect for him as a ball player. So if we got him back in his prime, yeah….I probably could have gotten over the early day Brave wearing Chipper.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Hated Francoeur when he was here

and by the end I couldn’t even watch his AB’s because I was sick of constantly hearing about his “new approach” as he grounds out to short on a 3-2 pitch. Basically every other player that I dislike it’s only because they are on another team and I wouldn’t have any issue cheering for them if they were Mets. Maybe Victornio but that’s about it.

by joma16 on Jan 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

This probably never happened

but it seemed like he would frequently see just enough pitches for Gary to comment on his supposedly improved plate discipline but not quite enough where he would actually walk or start to see hittable pitches. Again this probably only happened like three times but it seemed to me like he did it every game.

by joma16 on Jan 23, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

3-2 counts happened 41 times for him in 2009 and 42 times in 2010. Progress!

I’m guessing at least a few times the pitcher had absolutely no control and threw 3 consecutive balls.

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by Michkin on Jan 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

They were trying to intentionally walk him, but Frenchy wouldn't cooperate.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 23, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Frenchy's got so much grission

he can work the count to 3-2 while grounding out at the first pitch.

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by StorkFan on Jan 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Myers and Lueke for being scumbags

Mota for screwing us over, Dicktorino and Rocker for being unlikeable schmucks, Chipper for being, well, Chipper

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by blueandorange4life on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm

Shane Victorino, Jonathan Papelbon, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Brett Myers and Brian Wilson.

Probably a bunch of others.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jan 23, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Jimmy Rollins

Aside from the obvious, one of my college buddies had a gig where he was a clubhouse assistant one summer (I wanna say 2009) for the Phillies AAA team in Allentown, and even though he is a Phillies fan himself, he was taken aback by how much of an asshole Rollins was having encountered him in person on a rehab assignment. Just doesn’t seem like a good dude.

Also, I don’t think I could root for Manny Ramirez even if the hormone stuff never came out. Never really liked him even when he was setting the world on fire with his bat. He always manages to burn whatever bridges he has/had professionally and the stories of his pure pettiness while in Boston are jaw-dropping.

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by Five-Tool Tool on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

almost any yankee

number 1 would be Jeter. I could never root for that self rightous, smug, arrogant, extremly overrated, media creation

by fhc1224 on Jan 23, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Oliver Perez!

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by Michkin on Jan 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

hmm
Is there anyone currently playing that, if he joined the Mets, you absolutely could not root for?

if john rocker declared himself active, came to the mets door and begged on his knees for a contract, i would slam the door, right there. victorino and rollins are pretty close to that.

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by rexthejet on Jan 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Reminds me of how I felt about Gary Sheffield

I could not cheer for that guy, even in a Mets uniform. Myers, Lueke, Joba Chamberlain, Jonathan Papelbon, BJ Upton, Hanley Ramirez, Cogz4Pie and Jimmy Rollins come to mind as others, although the rest are in a lesser class compared to the first two

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love for the Mets to get Upton

I like him and it would be worth it just to see if Gary Cohen would have a meltdown.

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Aww, what's wrong with BJ?

and where’s his brother on that list?

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by BlackOps on Jan 23, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably those non-hustle incidents

At least thats why Gary Cohen hates him. He likes Justin b/c just doesn’t do that.

Those weren’t good, but its not like he’s the first guy to do it. He doesn’t strike me a a guy who doesn’t care/doesn’t work hard, etc.

by LGNYM on Jan 23, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a huge fan of either one, but I hate any player who blatantly half-asses playing the game

it infuriates me. Its not that he’s not talented, and he’d probably be a great addition to the team, but I just wouldn’t like him on a personal level.

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Aside..

At the end of that linked NYP article describing the Ross/Pelf incident, Jerry Manuel says something very Jerry Manuel-like that is hilarious:

On Ryan Church: “We gave him a couple of shots in Philadelphia against lefties and didn’t quite get the at-bats I was looking for.”

Really, Jerry? You expected to get an “at-bat you were looking for” by matching up Church with a LHP? Oh my. I wonder what I was thinking witnessing these pinch-hit at bats Jerry is speaking of in 2008.

by nmigliore on Jan 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Clemens, Rocker, and Pete Rose from the old days.

Nobody active. The MLB standard of villainy has declined alarmingly.

by Kepler on Jan 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Brett Myers beat his wife, and Josh Lueke probably raped someone

You’d feel comfortable with either of those two?

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by Syler on Jan 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Bonilla (not currently playing but currently getting paid)

Contract issues aside, take me back to 1990 and that would probably be my answer. Not for any particular reason, I just didn’t like him. It doesn’t help that the only game I ever saw at Shea was a miserable loss to the Pirates. Add in the early ‘90s Mets and the fact that he’s still on the payroll… He may have been a decent player, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. For anyone else, I would be fine with them on the team if there were an official Designated HBPer role (even if that took ABs away from Turner), but I just want the Bonilla era to end in my lifetime.

by mttlg on Jan 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

oh god, i'd have so much fun with Eck in a Mets uniform

he’d be horrible, but I think every time i saw him i’d just think of this place and laugh

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Shane Victorino is number one on the list for me.

I’m a pretty calm guy in general, but nobody makes my blood boil like that asshole.

Beyond him, John Rocker would be another if he were still active, Guillermo Mota, Luis Ayala, Scott Schoeneweis (pretty much anybody from those godawful 2007/2008 bullpens). Of course, Jimmy Rollins and Pat Burrell would be high up on the list. Also, I don’t think I could ever root for Carlos Zambrano and after the whole David Wright beaning incident from 2009, Matt Cain might have a spot too.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 23, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with you on the 2008 bullpen

But I don’t think I could bring myself to hate Scott Schoenweis, it’s too damn depressing.

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by piazza62 on Jan 23, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

For real reasons Lueke and Brett Myers and any other wife beating sexual predator in BB...

For baseball fan reasons, Victorino, Hamels, Jeter, Hanley Ramirez, Horsesex face Teixeria, Rollins, Eckstein, and HIS NAME IS DAN UGGLA.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 23, 2012 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh and I find all "crazy closers" extremely annoying

Brian Wilson, Papelbon, Valverde, and yes, KRod. Their overflowing testosterone and outrageous egos bug me. the greatest closers of all time — Rivera and Hoffman — did not need to act like cavemen in order to prove their competitive manliness. Also, Brian Wilson is just not funny.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 23, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

It is a type, isn't it?

I think of them like trash-talking cornerbacks in the NFL. Inevitably they’re going to get burned every once in a while, but the persona helps out with the “short memory” thing.

by Manic McReynolds on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

That Constanza dude

Trolliest performance in a three game series I have ever seen.

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by santana9237 on Jan 23, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

I wish we had that troll on our side, actually

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Jan 23, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd probably take out Murph again

During baserunning drills.

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by santana9237 on Jan 23, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

why?

if this dude was ever a Met he’d just be the terrible, free-swinging non-prospect that he really is, and probably STILL manage only to injure Mets players.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It's sort of irrational, but...

Francisco Cervelli.

I remember watching him run around the batter to throw it to third after a strikeout, and it looked like the most douche bag thing ever.

I’ve hated him since then.

by Mr. Bananagrabber on Jan 23, 2012 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

oh yeah, douchevelli should make my list too

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he sucks

I remember Ronnie once said of Cervelli that he’s the “annoying” kind of player that players on opposing teams love to hate and make fun of.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, irrational.

Hendu. Dave Henderson. I hated that little “tippy toe” thing he did when he was about to catch a fly ball. And just because of that – that’s the only reason – I disliked him.

by sebastiandeluded on Jan 23, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Hanley

ftw

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by brooklynberger on Jan 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

A few obvious ones.

Jeter, Rollins, Hanley Ramirez, Victorino, and Chipper. I suppose Myers and Lueke for their off-field conduct (most stuff, I wouldn’t care about, but that’s over the line for me.) He’s already been mentioned, but Brian Wilson’s antics fail to amuse me so badly that I almost hate the guy. Constanza and Leonard Davis for taking out Murphy. Add Cole Hamels to the list, too.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 23, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Um......
He just seems like a punk to me is all, and not the good kind. When I picture him in my head, I see him mouthing off from the batter’s box or the bench for some stupid reason, screaming at umps or the opposing pitcher for some slight, real or imagined.

I just want to point out that, for the most part, the 1986 Mets were nothing but a collection of what you describe above.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 23, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but they were awesome and won the champtionshit and that makes it ok

duh

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by Terry_is_God on Jan 23, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

But they were our collection of guys you most loved to hate.
They not only talked the talk, they backed it up. And they took home the grand prize.
Not hard to understand why the rest of the NL hated us but for that one season, I absolutely loved them. Had they not broke up that team, that probably would have turned ugly sooner or later.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 23, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

@Terry and MF4D

Cody Ross won a WS with the Giants recently and was a big part of the reason for them being relevant once the playoffs started – so he backed it up.

@FX – those Mets were cokeheads, so paranoia is expected

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by astromets on Jan 23, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No, no, no

The Giants won that WS because they had cool hair, and lots of it

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

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by Terry_is_God on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols

Not that I can even conceive of him being on the Mets in the first place.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

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by Terry_is_God on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Love this gif

Love this gif

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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I never actually paid any attention to the beer thrower

but it’s hilarious that he just starts to slowly and calmly sit down. “I’m done with this beer, you can wear the rest”

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by astromets on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be happy to root for Chipper, the version from 10 years ago that killed us

People I couldn’t root for, in no particular order:

Derek ‘Past a diving’ Jeter, Alex ‘Biggest POS’ Rodriguez, Mark ‘overrated, sellout’ Teixera, Shane ‘biggest douche in the game since Rocker’ Victorino, Ryan ‘The Phillies are going to regret my contract’ Howard, Cody ‘half my production with the Marlins came versus the Mets’ Ross, Chris ‘Cogz4Christ’ Coghlan, John ‘The racist’ Rocker, Brett ‘I wear my wife beater proudly’ Myers, Milton ‘l kill you!’ Bradley, Carlos ’I’ll throw 95 mph heat at your head if you homer off me’ Zambrano, Ollie ’I’mma steal the Mets money’ Perez, Cole ‘I have a gay [as in happy] family, so let’s pose’ Hamels, Jose ‘juiced’ Conseco, Ty ‘the original racist’ Cobb, Roger ‘I injected my asshole’ Clemens, Ugueth ‘the machete murderer’ Urbina, Josh ‘I got off way to easy for rape’ Lueke, Rafael ‘I took so many steroids I need viagara’ Palmeiro, Ivan ’I’m not better than Mike Piazza so I’ll roid’ Rodriguez, Hanley ‘I am so talented that I don’t need to try’ Ramirez… and the list goes on I would guess

I was tempted to put Andrew Jones, but I really just hated the guy who called him Ondruw Jones

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by astromets on Jan 23, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Cervelli also wears that stupid huge helmet when he bats.

Gotta be Jeter, though.

by sturock on Jan 23, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Surprised not to see more Miguel Cabrera.

Aside from the just-generally-douchey guys, he’s one of the genuine wife-beaters (although apparently his wife got the better of him). I could never support Myers or Leuke. Then again Cabrera just seems genuinely nuts and I almost feel sorry for him while I hate him.

by pologroundling on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Cabrera should have made my list

For drunk driving AND being drunk/hung over during a game

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 23, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I was considering him and Hamilton, for multiple reasons

but I would be happy to have their offensive production on the Mets

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by astromets on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't put Hamilton in the same league as the other people mentioned.

Sure, his story of being a general addict and fuck-up is well known, but as far as I know he hurt himself worse than he ever hurt anyone else, and he’s taken steps to get his life in order and he tries to help others do the same. And, on the baseball field, he busts ass as far as I have seen. Apparently, he even reached out to Cabrera to try to get him on the straight and narrow path.

Unless there is something I don’t know about Hamilton, he is nowhere near the same class as Myers or Cabrera.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I didn't think about that aspect...

Although I still give HamBone more of a pass than ol’ Cogz 4 since Hamilton seems to be battling with actual demons and Cogz merely twitter ones.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 24, 2012 7:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess Johan also have similar allegations hanging over his head...

…though I know unlike Castro, Lueke, etc. no charges were ever brought against Santana. There are just some things that we as fans can never know, and it is probably good to never be too surprised to hear that our heroes are actually assholes.

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The crisis is over.

Ross to the Red Sox.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place

by Ogre39666 on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

Oh...where to start?

With the Yankees, of course!
Jorge Posada—for all his purported class, he always struck me as a prima donna.

Roger Clemens—Really? You need to ask?

Paul O’Neill—whiny-ass crybaby, all the way back to his time with the Reds. Just once, I wanted to see someone drill him after he pulled one of his tantrums because a major-league pitcher got him out. I wish he had played against Bob Gibson.

Jim Leyritz—biggest no-talent, coattail-riding jackass in baseball history

Moving on…
Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins

I could never stand Pete Rose.

Surprisingly, I could never stand Dennis Cook, either. I couldn’t wait unitl he was gone.

by jkoyon on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Myers, Lueke, Victorino, Rollins, Miguel Olivo (you pick a fight with Jose, you're dead to me)

I’d have no problem rooting for Chipper. Guy killed us, but was never a douche about it.

by Joamiq on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Utley, Rollins, Jeter, Arod, Hammels, carlos zambrano, joba, victorino...

chipper, andrew jones, manny, big papi, papelbon, beckett, JASON BAY…

by marshon9 on Jan 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

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