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Thoughts on the new Marlins stadium


This was going to be a comment reacting to the size of that Marlins atrocity that supposedly has to do with hitting homeruns, but after looking up info on the stadium and getting out more thoughts I figured: what the heck, there haven't been enough fanposts on AA lately and maybe we can discuss some of the other poorly designed aspects of the new stadium. I was actually trying to work on other stuff, but kept coming back to this over-sized atrocity in my mind. To the jump!

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First, you might want to check out Grant Brisbee's piece on the atrocity, and the fanshot Bobby Baseball posted here on AA: here.

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I needed to know the size, so I tried to use the above picture for reference to determine approximate heights. It's angled and I am lazy, but I think it will give a ballpark estimate. Assuming the pickup trucks are 6 feet tall, the red arch is between 20-22 feet tall, the turquoise between 30-32 feet tall, the orange between 40-42 feet tall, and the yellow between 50-52 feet tall. This picture was annoyingly angled though, and I certainly wasn't going for ultimate accuracy using gimp software to measure pixels at guessed angles, but the pattern of adding ten feet was consistent, and the yellow arch looks approximately twice the size of the red one, so I would believe it. Then I read this on wiki:



Dead center field is expected to have a home run feature akin to Citi Field's Home Run Apple but different in design and feel. The piece, designed by Red Grooms, will be located behind the outfield wall, partially visible during a game. It is expected to be between 50 feet (15 m) to 60 feet (18 m) tall, with bright pink, blue, aqua, and orange colors along with many moving parts. The art feature will rise from a pool of Grooms-designed water and dotted with clouds, pelicans and seagulls. Marlins will jump and laser lights will shine. The home run feature is budgeted at $2.5 million and included in the $515 million cost of the 37,000-seat retractable roof ballpark under construction.



And I was like, what the...it's going to rise up out of something??? How is that even going to work? Are they going to start digging into the Earth? Because they won't be able to hide it behind the wall. And what is Grooms-designed water? Or is that just a typo? Then I saw this picture Brisbee posted in the comments section, and noticed something even bigger (TWSS)

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See it? Above the atrocity, take your eyes away for a second, blink some, now breath and look again. I am talking, of course, about the giant video board that makes the old giant scoreboard from Shea look, well, less giant (man do I miss that). Assuming the atrocity is 50 feet tall, that board is about 60 feet tall and nearly 75 feet wide; in other words, it is just the right size to take out all of the fans (and by fans I mean people seeking shelter from a hurricane) in the right field bleachers - and maybe Cogz4Jeezeus in the process. Maybe they can zoom in on the catchers signs during at-bats to give an advantage to the hitter, that view would make a sperm whale feel inadequate.

This stadium also has a swimming pool, real original guys, as well as aquariums as the backstop. I would feel terrible for the poor fish, but it would be hilarious if that 'backstop' somehow broke during the game - plus, the flopping fish would be appropriate consider specifically the 1998 and 2004 versions of the <strong>Florida</strong> Marlins. I guess that from a business perspective, you are selling the entire experience at the stadium, and need some strong drawing cards (and by that I mean visuals for an acid trip or, since it's Miami, ecstasy rolling); and the old saying is that no publicity is bad publicity, right? I mean, people are talking about the Marlins again.

They also brought over the rather large dimensions their old stadium, Shit'on'us field I think it was called, and the dumb 'Bermuda triangle' that shifts everything to the right of CF back 5 feet. The power alleys are both 385+ feet, with what looks like 10+ foot walls, so homeruns aren't likely to be easy, except down the lines. No wonder Albert Pujols turned down the money and chance to join the Marlins next one year wonder, he saw the blue prints and did not want to become the next David Wright (hope that didn't hurt your groin area too much). If I was the city of Miami or the county of Miami-Dade, then I would be asking for my 360 million dollars back - or Jeff Loria's ass in jail for theft and graffiti on public property.

Isn't the whole point of a baseball stadium to provide a venue for fans to watch...wait for it... baseball? Give me this, and nothing more. Why all the distractions Florida Miami Marlins? Trying to take the attention off the weird new logo and uniforms? This looks wrong for so many reasons

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Trying to attract ravers to pre-game and enjoy a roll? Trying to copy other teams while still being original? Or do you guys just have that poor of taste in style that you thought this stadium could be cool?

Some people will say that this is just fun. Go big or go home is what they will tell you, and at least they went big - like 50+ feet big. But this is just ridiculous - the whole stadium, the uniforms, and especially the fact that they likely won't be able to afford this time in one years time. Did you notice the giant palm trees out there? Someone mentioned lack of seats? Yeah, it holds only 37,000 people. They might as well put a roller coaster out there, just make sure it goes through the atrocity several times. People need something to do to distract themselves during the baseball game after all, and that line would wrap around the stadium for sure. They could even do the wave as they waited in line! Oy vey.

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that it does

i don’t think apples can save it now. i think it will take a week or so until all 8 marlin fans will angrily detest it

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by rexthejet on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Zuul

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by MookieTheCat on Jan 30, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think the open feel and structure of it is beautiful...

but everything else in it is shaping up not to be.

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by SuperSantana on Jan 27, 2012 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

To mix metaphors,

this thing is the cherry on top of the circus that the “Miami Marlins” truly are.

Personally, I can’t wait to see the Stanton Machine in action. I think the novelty will wear off for the Marlins pretty much immediately after the first time that thing goes off. I hope they loathe it. I think astromets is correct that this stadium is at least in part designed to attract ecstasy-addled youths, which is almost as hilarious as it is terrible.

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by Terry_is_God on Jan 28, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

What kind of fans is this crap supposed to appeal to?

I suppose when the Florida Marlins came into existence, they were aiming to capture some Dolphins or Hurricanes fans and get them into MLB, which worked until they blew up the 1997 WS team (they started to get them back after the 2003 WS, but they blew up that team too). I just can’t see any self respecting baseball or sports fan voluntarily rooting for this debacle. Either they’re good, and you’re a frontrunner who can take looking like a fool, or their bad, and you just look like a fool.

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by piazza62 on Jan 28, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Eh

Remember when they were leading the division for abit last season? The media started talking and their fans got into it but then they fell into last place and stayed there. I have a feeling its going to be exactly like that this season

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by BlueChill on Jan 28, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

I like it

I see nothing wrong with it. It’s original and should be entertaining. I like the look of the Stadium and it’s about time they got out of the old one. Now they can get more of the cash flow where it belongs.

by Dch48 on Jan 29, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

the stadium is beautiful, and it is by the water i believe.

But no, that home run thing is atrocious

Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "

by SuperSantana on Jan 29, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah i remember seeing it being constructed, its a really gorgeous ball park and i plan on seeing it some day.

But that thing may turn out to be out of place sooner than later. We’ll see i suppose when Reyes starts hitting bombs to center field off of us.

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by SuperSantana on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw the Marlins' cash flow.

Loria’s just going to pocket every last cent, anyway.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 29, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Just no.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The most entertaining thing about Marlins baseball

Are the Maroone’s Call to the Bullpen ads and whenever they show the dancers.

That’s about it.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed Dch48

I would love it if I were a marlins fan. I even like (really like) the uni’s and logo. (call me the minority, but I think baseball could use a little color and excitement and don’t see nothing wrong with that). Haters gonna hate though.

by robotoverlord on Jan 30, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Colors are fine.

As long as said colors go well together. Theses do not:

Not to mention how unbalanced of a design it is.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This color scheme

Looks like a sign for a Beach Bus public transport system in some summer resort town. The buses are probably decked out to look like old trollies or something.

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by MookieTheCat on Jan 30, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

well........it IS Miami

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This color scheme is Exhibit A as to why the colorblind should not pursue a career in graphic design.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't know why they scrapped green.

Sure update the shade (teal is very 90’s), but it’s a very under-utilized color in sports. And the gray with black is just lame. The design still sucks but look how much better it looks with green and a simplified color palate:

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

lose the thing that looks like part swordfish, part train coming off the M

and I wouldn’t be offended by it

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said

the design still sucks.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The Miami Acelas!

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by CTRefJay on Jan 31, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not something like this.

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by SuperSantana on Jan 31, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Its much easier on the eyes, more simplistic, I even dare say elegant.

Why not go with this, if they were sticking with the marlin thingy.

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by SuperSantana on Jan 31, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they wanted desperately to eliminate the 90's feel to it.

That and I really like when the wheat color is used instead of white.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 31, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

why so big?

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks fine to me

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah....

This would actually look great, or at the very least respectable.

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 1, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks a lot better

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by Xfactor26 on Feb 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This one really looks like the Mona Lisa in comparison to the other

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by SuperSantana on Feb 3, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Glorious.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 1, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

but I think that picture says more about the very american fear of bright colors’ effect on masculinity than anything else.

by robotoverlord on Feb 1, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Murton is missing

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful

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by SuperSantana on Feb 3, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I for one also hate the marlin part

only for how it’s designed. This may be looking too far into it, but look at the ‘tail’ and front of it. Wouldn’t it make a million times more sense to have the tail behind the text and the other part in front, so it jumps out at you more? It looks so weird to me how it’s designed

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by KaaMets on Jan 31, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

It’s kind of jumping backwards, away from you.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 31, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

damn straight I am going to hate

it’s the fucking Marlins and it is my right as a fan to hate who I want!

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It Stinks!

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I'm about 15 years too late but

I miss “the Critic.”

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by meigs1414 on Jan 31, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

ZOMG!!!

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

I keep seeing elephant first

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

It must have cost a fortune to license Dumbo like that.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 1, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this real?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't make it

just image searched new marlins and bam, more embarassment

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

For their sake, I hope that image was doctored

It’d be so awesome if it wasn’t, though.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if it is

don’t they know gradients are garish?

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 1, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

he is as real as they come

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

______

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

ummm, I guess he is an upgrade

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Man, they're just trolling us, aren't they?

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what they were thinking with that...toy? keychain?

that just looks so wrong

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh boy...

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 2, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeesh! Too much colors!

Even Carson Kressley would hurl homophobic epithets at this thing.

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by R_Adragna on Feb 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently,

Billy the Marlin grew up near a nuclear power plant.

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