Sunday Snack-Sized Applesauce: Free Agent Updates, Park Factors, Identity Fraud and ITBSOHL™!
It was a quiet Saturday in Flushing, so there's really nothing new to talk about with the Mets this morning. Here's your Sunday look around the league.
At Beyond the Box Score, Amazin' Avenue's own Bill Petti tries to figure out how park factors affect team success.
The Times has an article up about the issue of identity fraud among Dominican players in baseball, in which Sandy Alderson is quoted a number of times.
ITBSOHL!!!! You know that it's getting close to spring training when the "In The Best Shape Of His Life™" articles begin cropping up and it looks like we're at that point right now. The Braves' Jason Heyward, the White Sox' Adam Dunn and the Twins' Joe Mauer all insist that they are currently in the best shape of their life.
As we reach the end of January, there are still a few big names out on the free agent market. Roy Oswalt has been rumored to be negotiating with the Cardinals the last few days but the team has denied that it has anything in the works with the veteran right-hander. Meanwhile, an article in the Dallas Morning News says that Oswalt is scheduled to meet with the Rangers on Monday. They also mention that the Red Sox and the Astros are in the running as well.
Edwin Jackson, meanwhile, is drawing more interest now and is said to have multiple three year offers on the table, according to Ken Rosenthal.
In other free agency goings-on, the Giants agreed with infielder Ryan Theriot on a one year, $1.25 million contract that will reunite him with former Cubs' and LSU teammate Mike Fontenot. Meanwhile, Brad Penny has a team interested in him--in Japan. The Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks have offered Penny a contract, which the big righty is supposedly weighing (pun intended).
It looks like Bud Selig is ready to step in to decide the still unpaid Theo Epstein compensation that the Cubs will send to the Red Sox.
This is interesting. Apparently, Jim Thome has a handshake agreement with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf that once the slugger retires, he will go to work with the White Sox.
The Safeco Field roof broke down at Mariners' FanFest yesterday, as two of the panels in the roof could not move due to a broken wheel and axle. Looks like the team is not the only thing in need of repairs (Ba-Dum-Tish! I'm here all week, folks. Try the veal!).
And finally, Phillies' GM Ruben Amaro says that the Ryan Howard contract still looks good to him, mainly because he didn't have to give him 9 or 10 years. Right. So I guess it's better to pay the 17th best first baseman in the majors the highest annual salary for a first baseman for five years than to actually have a good first baseman. Okay, enjoy your albatross!
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How does Ryan Howard manage to hit 33 homeruns and drive in 116 Runs...
and have just a 1.6 WAR. That is bad.
Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
by SuperSantana on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Because that's all he can do
A .354 wOBA is thoroughly unimpressive for a 1B, especially playing in such a hitters park, and he has horrible defensive and baserunning value. His OPS was nearly 20 points lower than Lucas Duda’s yet he finishes ahead of Reyes on the MVP vote…
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
33 / 116
may be unimpressive to you.
But it’s a hall of a lot more impressive than anything Mets have gotten out of 1B since 2008.
One of the many reasons the Mets stink.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'd much rather have Ike
than pay Howard what is roughly 30% of our payroll this year.
by ackbar7 on Jan 29, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'd rather have Ike than Howard...
Even at comparable salaries. The contract just makes it a laugher.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Ike Davis >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Howard
Also, Ryan Howard really isn’t that great anymore. His best season, where he put up a 6.2 WAR (elite, but not MVP-esque) was 2006, six years ago now. He has since been worth 3.7, 3.0, 4.6, 1.4 and 1.6 WAR from 2007-present. Going into his age 32 season, he will be delayed by pretty major injury, and will be making $20 million dollars for 2012 and 2013, and $25 million for 2014, 2015, 2016.
Ike Davis was worth 3.4 WAR in his rookie year, and 1.4 WAR in 36 games in 2011 (he probably wouldn’t have kept up the torrid pace, but guesstimating 3.5 to 4.5 WAR for the season is reasonable). Going into his age 25 season, he is coming back from an ankle injury, and will be making the Major League minimum, with an arbitration raises in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
We'll see.
I’ll be happy for Ike to truly have a better career than Howard. Very happy. But I want him to prove it before I get excited.
But you understand no one is talking career
Just who a team would rather have going forward.
You don’t want to get excited for the young, promising, homegrown players on your favorite baseball team that’s your prerogative, but it shouldn’t surprise you that all of the other fans of said team do want to get excited.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
I don't feel the need to get excited
until he actually puts up all-star numbers. That’s all.
What is with your attitude? No offense, but it reeks of Yankee fandom
not all players need to develop into all-stars to be exciting and awesome. Edgardo Alfonzo is one of the most popular and awesome Mets of all time, and he was only a one-time all-star. Ike Davis is already a very good defensive 1B, who has power (awesome power at times too), patience and is just a lot of fun to watch. If he never becomes an all-star that will be fine with me, so long as he plays as well as he has and stays a Met.
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not a Yankees fan.
And we don’t need all all-stars. ONE would be nice. How many are you counting this upcoming season, in terms of all-star quality performance?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know, but I know we'll have at least one (why all-stars? such a pointless game anyway)
that is the fun of watching and finding out. Could have several in Davis, Wright, Santana, Dickey, Niese
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"Could have several"
good luck with that! (in terms of 5+ WAR performance, I mean)
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
You will be too busy watching the Red Sox get 3rd in the AL East to care.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Not my team
so I won’t care.
But I will enjoy watching them play good baseball, something you won’t be watching much of this year.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
And that's the point.
If you’re a Met fan watching bad NY Met baseball is better than watching good Boston Red Sox baseball.
I think you should study up on the definition of ‘fan’.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm used to it at this point.
At least I stick by my teams. O’s since I was 6, born in ‘92, started following in ’98, they haven’t won since. Mets since ‘98 as well, my first baseball game was Opening Day versus the Phils, 14 innings. Guess what, I still root for both teams, because I AM A FAN! I’d rather watch MY teams lose than wimp out and halfheartedly root for the fucking Red Sox.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well I guess you must be a better person than me.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, from what I have read today,
that’s probably an accurate statement.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Oh oh oh, I know this one!:
False claim.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well, we do have this guy, David Wright, who even in his "bad" seasons, last year's injury prone one notwithstanding,
Was still one of the best third basemen in the game.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Not really. He wasn't even the 5th best in 2010.
Color me not impressed.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
in 2010
he was LITERALLY an all-star, what more do you want?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I want him
to actually perform like one (5 WAR +)
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
So side question for everyone not named aronofsky:
I thought “All-Star” was accepted to be 4 WAR?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I was pretty sure it was 5
but if I’m mistaken, my apologies.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
In terms on wRC+, he was the fifth best, fourth if you count Bautista as an outfielder.
And I believe you pointed out, you can never be too certain with one year of UZR. And in 2010, Chase Headley had a 16 UZR, he never has had another season with a positive UZR, and Prado had 4.7 baserunning runs, where his next best season is 1.9. So, if you remove those two based on statistical outliers, and Bautista since he played mostly in the outfield, Wright becomes the fifth best third baseman by WAR. Happy now?
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
he went from fifth to fifth?
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
thanks for clearing it up
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But if you go with straight up WAR / Total Value
Wright was 9th best in 2009, 8th best in 2010, and not qualifying in 2011. I think it’s pretty safe to say Wright hasn’t been a top 5 3B in MLB in quite a few years now.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
but when we were comparing Ike/Howard
you only cared about offensive production. Hey Ogre, I think…are these the field posts you were talking about?
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Billy Cundiff has enough trouble finding stationary posts...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
We can stay on just offense if you prefer
In 2009, Wright was 8th best in wRC+, in 2010 he was 5th best, and last year he didn’t qualify.
If you look at 2010 alone, he’s 5th best. If you look at all 3 years together, he’s clearly not due to both performance and injury.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
4th in 2010
Bautista played 40 games at third.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Fair
So let’s give him 4th that year. Average of 4th and 8th would be 6th best. Not top 5. Close, but no cigar. Factor in defense, and he’s significantly lower.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Through age 24, he's already up on Howard
4.9 to 0.4 WAR, so…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And then Howard put up a 6.0 WAR spot
If Ike does that, I will be pleased.
Now I'm conflicted
I really want Ike to do well, but I truly don’t want you to be pleased. I really don’t want you to be on this site at all, really.
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I know
you have a personal problem with me for whatever reason. I guess you can’t handle realism / pessimism.
so you are saying
that is Ike consistently is a 3-4 WAR player—meaning TWICE AS GOOD AS THE AVERAGE MLB STARER— but never puts up a 6-8 WAR elite season, you won’t be pleased/impressed?! Uh, OK. Enjoy that, then. And with Howard you ARE impressed because he had exactly ONE great—but not elite—season followed by a bunch of garbage seasons in which he was BELOW AVERAGE?!
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
this should say
“that IF Ike is consistently a 3-4WAR player…”
sorry, late night typing snafu.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'd be impressed with 5 WAR seasons from Ike
not really 4 WAR.
I don’t find Howard impressive.
I find Prince and Pujols impressive.
you want to paint yourself as a realist/pessimist
but realistically a team needs to have a cheap 3-4 WAR players to be successful. This means that Ike will be valuable even if he doesn’t much improve on his output through his first 180 MLB games or so. Obviously the Mets aren’t gonna be particularly good this year, but Ike Davis is clearly a part of the Mets solution and not the Mets problem going forward.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
understanding baseball
you got it dude!
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Sure
but you also need all-stars putting up 5 WAR or more.
You need 3-4 WAR players, sure, but they aren’t particularly exciting. Necessary yes. Exciting no.
R.A. Dickey is a 3-4 WAR player
Therefore, your assertion is incorrect.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I feel bad for whoever ends up marrying you, if someone is that desperate
That party was fun, but not exciting, because it didn’t have enough WAR (wild ass raging).
That sex was fun, but not exciting, because it didn’t have enough WAR (wieners and reaming).
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ah, that's right, you aren't a Mets fan
The ability to throw a no-hitters at any time is quite exciting. The unpredictability of knuckleballs is exciting.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you're dead to me
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Even if Davis is league average in 2012 and 2013 (2.0 WAR)
he’ll have more career WAR as compared to Howard through age 26 (8.9 to 8.8 WAR).
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ok. Well let's see him be league average for a few years.
Even that would be an achievement for the Mets, although not a particularly impressive achievement.
If you can't even admit that, baring health, the chances of Ike Davis being a league average player are very high
…well I’d say you’d be a lost cause but that’s not big a step down from what you are already.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I've seen plenty of baseball players put up an average year
and then decline. Ike would be far from the first.
way behind in the messages here
but Ike already put up an above-average year (by WAR) and then had nearly average year in 36 games
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But that is not my point
The point is that there’s nothing particularly exciting to me about a team with an average player and a bunch of shitty ones.
Show me a team with some all-stars and some average players, and I’ll care.
But I thought the only thing that made a team a non-failure was winning a World Series, not how many All-Stars they have?
Or are these field posts moving as well?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You like to make false claims about moving field posts`
but I’ll ignore.
At any rate, it’s pretty tough to win a WS without
any all-star caliber players.
Your criteria for what makes a non-failure team changes.
Either it’s a WS win or a bunch of All-Stars is sufficient. Pick one and stick with it.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No I've been consistent
a non-failure, as distinguished from a good team, is a WS winner, and a WS winner only.
A good team is simply that – a good team.
A good team can also be a failure, however.
A bad team can also be a failure, but cannot be a good team.
Clear?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Good ≠ failure.
They are in fact pretty much opposites.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think that's blatantly false
Good people can fail all the time.
And bad people can succeed.
Happens all the time in life.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Good: satisfactory in quality, quantity, or degree.
Failure: subnormal quantity or quality; an insufficiency.
Unless you think there is a morality to win and loss records, the terms are opposites when applied to teams.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I disagree
To be good and to succeed have two different meanings. Being good means you are good in quality. Succeeding means you have achieved the goal. You can be good in quality without achieving the goal.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
If you disagree with those definitions then you disagree with Dictionary.com.
I suggest you take it up with them.
I'm sure they will be receptive.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
No I disagree with you
not with dictionary.com
They would agree with my distinction. Good and successful are not the same word.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Then go watch the Yankees
or bandwagon the Rangers or whoever does the best this season
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I will watch the Sox and the Phillies
and I will return to the Mets when
a) The Wilpons sell the team
OR
b) the Wilpons get their shit together.
Until then, I will boycott.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
does watching = root for
in your world ?.
just curious, because there is a difference.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No, I root for the Mets
but I won’t watch them or give them my hard earned cash.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Bandwagon,
fair weather type fan. No wonder you’re angry.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Insult me however you'd like
but the people who are Wilpons ass-lickers are the ones who are the suckers.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Only the young
especially the young who have not experienced real adversity in life, could be this angry over their baseball team stinking up the joint.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
thus speaketh the wise lady from
south jersey
rec’d
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hating the Wilpons ≠ hating the team or the players on it.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I don't hate the players
It’s not their fault they suck.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
PART OF THE POINT HERE IS THAT IKE DAVIS DOESN'T SUCK
if you wanted to pick a better Met to pick on, you coulda picked like, Miguel Batista or something. Now there is a player we could all probably chuckle about and agree not to be excited about.
But it reeks of fair weather fandom if you refuse to see the silver lingers in the lean years.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
No Ike doesn't suck
I just don’t find him particularly exciting. Yet.
Hopefully he will have a season to be excited about soon though.
If that’s a fairweather fan to you, I can live with that.
Yeah, throw the baby out with the bath water.
That’s like hating the war AND pissing on the troops.
The two do not have to go hand in hand, nor should they.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This is what I don't understand.
You seem to be saying that if you’re a Met fan, you’re automatically a Wilpon ass-licker and that’s just not the case. I think we can all agree that we root for the Mets but we despise the Wilpons and look forward to the day that they sell.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well
if you can admit that Ike Davis is well short of an all-star so far, we are agreed on basically everything then!
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Is anybody saying that he's an all-star right now?
A lot of us have hope that he’ll reach that potential in the (hopefully) near future but I don’t think anybody’s saying that he is right now.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
And that's fine.
Be an optimist.
I, on the other hand, am a pessimist, and choose to believe that, like most other things Mets, he will go wrong / bad / fail.
Hopefully YOU will be right!
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
well we know you won't be around to watch it
since you aren’t a Mets fan
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
wow dude,
That is not being a real fan at all. Stick by your team for god’s sake.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You are giving other Wilpon-boycotters a bad rep.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
There are no other
Wilpons boycotters around here that I see. Just a bunch of Wilpon ass-lickers.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
You are talking/writing to one of the most vocal Wilpon-boycott proponents on AA.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I mean do you not see the avatar?!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Sure you are buddy
you’ve done nothing but side with the Mets optimists all day in this thread.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
that has nothing to do with the Wilpons you MORAN
we love the Mets and will stick by them, rooting for them, NO MATTER FUCKING WHAT! That is what being a sports fan is about! I probably hate the Wilpons more than you, why, because I probably been watching the Mets longer than you. It’s clear I have watched more games than you since you go off to watch whatever team is hot while I stay seated watching my Metsies every game I can, every season
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
haha
clearly you do not hate the Wilpons more than me, since you continue to support them.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
prove how I support them
look through my nearly 16,000 comments on this site for 1 example of my support for the Wilpons. I love the Mets, can’t help who owns them. This is why you are an idiot
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Nobody here supports the Wilpons
If you got that out of the posts then you clearly have a reading comprehension problem.
Astro Traveler
by BlackOps on Jan 29, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Then I don't see why
anyone should have any problem with what I’ve said.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
and yet everyone does
and we all hate the Wilpons, so you must love them! Get out of here, you Wilpon nutsack licker!
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Pardon me for being a dick
But I just found it kinda funny that you spelled “moron” wrong, calling another person a moron. A lapse by an otherwise great poster, but hilarious nonetheless.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jan 30, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It's a meme.
Just in case you’re not being sarcastic, which I think you’re not.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not
and I just saw it later on in the page. oops.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
thank you though
I thought that meme was well known on here, I have used it a bunch, but it will be more well known after tonight
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
now I will be referring to all trolls as MORANS
thank you, astromets.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I challenge you to prove that.
Rooting for the Mets does not equal ‘Wilpon ass-lickers’.
Again, you must be young.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Giving the wilpons your money
or tv ratings certainly does.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Lulz
what?
Watching my favorite team does not equal a Wilpon ass-licker.
Where your logic fails, is trying to pigeon hole Met fans into one extreme or the other.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
His logic falls in a lot of places.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It's not a logic fail
there’s no contradiction.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
it is not logical to begin with
it follows no rational thought process, it is just you trying to come up with something and sounding like a MORAN
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Astromets I really hate to be "that guy"
especially b/c I totally agree with you but…But it’s “moron.” /End spelling police broadcast. Please forgive me!
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
MORAN is a meme
As in “”http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans" >Get a BRAIN! MORANS! Go USA!"
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
haha that's ok
it was not meant for everyone to get, but I am happy that it has been made clear that I am not a morOn
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
OH NO I FEEL LIKE A JERK
sorry friend. Now I am in the know.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you should not
I would want to know if I was being that big of a moran
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He's not your friend, pal...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
dude
you have basically made any argument just to be contrary.
First it was about Ryan Howard, then it was about Ike Davis, then it was about the Wilpons, etc.
I’ve been a Mets fan for about 20 years. They’ve been bad for a lot of that time. But I love baseball, so I watch my favorite team play. Do I watch SNY? Sure, and I don’t really care that you choose not to. That’s your prerogative. But to come onto a website FOR Mets fans and start announcing that to like any aspect of the current Mets — players, broadcasters, team colors, whatever the fuck — equates to liking their shit owners is just insulting and unnecessary. We like the Mets. Deal with it, or go away.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Why would you like this team
as it currently stands?
There’s nothing to like. They stink.
Because people are fans of the Mets
regardless of how good they are?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Just because the team will have a shitty record
doesn’t mean it is completely unlikable. Ike Davis is one of the very likable parts of this team. Dickey is another. So are Niese and Wright. So are a bunch of the guys in the system (the Four Horsemen, Nimmo, Puello, etc).
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 4:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Whether something is likable or not
is a matter of taste and opinion.
I think there is a general consensus on where you are likeable
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Dont forget the Dude
and his monster home runs
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Unless you are a Nielsen Family
you’re not giving them ratings.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This is true.
So we agree on something.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
and who says we do either of those things
I live in SC, can’t go to games at Citi, and watch on streams from the internet.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Do the Mets earn
any kind of revenue from their internet streams?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Not if it's illegitimate.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
like aronofsky40's fandom
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What the hell difference does it make?
Unless you don’t care if the Mets somehow are contenders in the next few years, just b/c the Wilpons own them, then you’re not getting the greater the revenues, the sooner this team will have a buck or 2 to spend again.
‘Cause the only way the Wilpons are giving up this team is prying it out of Fred’s cold, dead hands.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
does the MLB allow them to stream? No
have you ever watched baseball? No? Ohhhhh. My streams are from nice people in Europe who post them nightly until someone, probably an MLB employee, comes by to take them down
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The word "boycotters"?
I don’t know. I couldn’t think of a different way to day it.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
so, you're a Red Sox and Phillies fan
Now that we got that figured out, listen to ari
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
didn't post?

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
They both show up for me.
Which is kind of awesome actually.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Keith
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I still don't see the first one
but I want to post this in response to about 30 things he has said, so far
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Liz Lemon talking to a group of idiots:
“Because of you there may be an Entourage movie!”
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
wow, you'll watch the Phillies
and call yourself a Mets fan? Unless you’re cheering for their stadium to collapse every game, that just doesn’t work.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Because you're not a Mets fan
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
ok, so you get excited watching Phillies and Sox games
but not Mets games… and that makes you a Mets fan… how? I mean really, by what definition are you a fan at all?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I root for the Mets
I’m just boycotting them; Which I think is fully justified.
When they sell the team or get their act together, I’ll come back.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
that is the very definition
of a fair weather fan, moran
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
If your boycott invloves not following the team at all
you can’t exactly call yourself a fan anymore.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
he doesn't know what a fan is
a ceiling fan? maybe. a sports fan? no.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
but the whole point is
up to now, he HASN’T been league average. He has been twice as good as league average. sure, he might totally collapse. but why assume an unlikely worst case scenario unless you are a troll or a phillies fan?
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well, not exactly twice league average
But close enough, so I’ll even go with it.
Which is a good ballplayer.
But it’s still not exactly exciting.
And I assume the worst, because that’s usually how it goes for the Mets. Especially with the current idiot owners.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right.
A 1B who was worth 3.5 WAR in his rookie year (when he was 23) and then put up a 152 wRC+ through May 10th of his sophomore season is totally unexciting. I’d rather watch paint dry then that!
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 4:31 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
3.5 WAR isn't exciting.
David Wright put up 6.2 WAR in his first full season.
THAT Was exciting.
do you watch the games
or just go by WAR to decide who is exciting? This is another reason I know you are a troll
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I find that question to be really ironic.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Right.
Because we all know players never get better. Especially those guys under 25.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
If he gets better
then I will get excited!
Why put the cart before the horse?
why does he have to put up 5 WAR to be exciting?
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Because you're not allowed to be excited for a prospect before they become a superstar
Again, it’s the Yankee way.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
haha
I just want him to explain his bs mindset more
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Haha
I can promise you his mindset is that of an unsatisfiable, spoiled Yankees fan. Trust me, I have experience dealing with people like this.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Howard would be a 2 WAR downgrade from Ike's rookie season
and Ike is just getting better. If the Phillies want to pay a player who is almost, but not quite, as good as the 38 year old Delgado we had in 2008, more power to them.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
If we're going to compare position by position
with the Phils, you’ve got a point. But the number one deficiency was pitching – both SP and our BP.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I would say that the biggest lead the Phillies have on us position-wise
Is in ownership.
Must be nice to have an owner who wants to win games not just hold onto his grasp of the team.
__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget
by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 29, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The Phillies are currently a much better team than the Mets.
There are three major reasons for that: Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels. If anything, 1B is one of the slots where I’d give the Mets the positional advantage. Ryan Howard has got to be one of the most overrated players in baseball.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
This should say:
overrated AND overpaid!
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Here you go:
Matthew Pouliot at NBC Sports at Hardball Talk:
‘With Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder now in staking their claims in the American League, NBC Sports’ Matthew Poulliot lists Ike Davis as the second best first baseman in the National League in today’s Hardball Talk column.’ (Jan. 24th)
He projects their 2012 OPS and ranks the Top 5 as follows:
Reds: Joey Votto – .990
Mets: Ike Davis – .864
Cardinals: Lance Berkman: .860
Phillies: Ryan Howard – .850
Braves: Freddie Freeman – .823
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Wow, that's awesome.
Add that to the fact that in his 1 1/2 years at the MLB level, Ike has revealed himself to be an elite defender and he could become the Mets best ever homegrown 1st baseman. (Am I forgetting anyone obvious? All of our great 1b — Keith, Olerud, etc. have not been homegrown, right?)
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
You forgot
Ed Kranepool.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
How could I forget!
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Watch yourself
I bet you could throw Magadan’s one season in there.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Weakest position in organazational development
The best 1B pre-Ike have been Dave Magadan and John Milner.
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
by StorkFan on Jan 29, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Daniel Murphy in 2009: 1.2 WAR
Ryan Howard, super awesome 100 RBIZ guy in 2011: 1.6 WAR
But by all means, keep worshiping the ground the Phillies walk on.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 29, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The Mets were in FOURTH place last year
and you’re criticizing the PHILLIES???
Logical.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So being in first place last season makes them perfect?
Logical.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Nope, not perfect.
Just a hell of a lot better than us. I mean, how petty does a fan of a fourth place team have to be to make fun of a first place team?
What does petty have to do with anything?
I just hate the Phillies and will make fun of them indefinitely regardless of the fortunes or misfortunes of our respective teams. Howard’s contract is laughable, so we laugh, as we well should. It’s all in good fun, or is supposed to be… remember having fun? Happy thoughts? Feeling good about life? These are things that have nothing to do with the New York Mets’ place in the standings…
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I just think that
making fun of a team that is 100x better than your own to be silly and petty. But to each their own.
That doesn't pan out
An amateur author can’t criticize a New York Times award winning author? An independent actor can’t criticize an Oscar winning actor? A unsigned musician can’t criticize a platinum record artist? A student can’t criticize a teacher? A third-world country can’t criticize a rich, developed country?
And, by can or can’t, I mean not having the physical capability to, but the “moral standing/ground” to do so.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
There's a difference between offering
constructive criticism and making fun / mocking.
And no, I don’t believe that a fan of a fourth place team is EVER in a position to mock / make fun of a first place team. Or a second place team. Or, hell, a halfway decent team.
Your position doesn't logically pan out, then.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
By that rationale,
China has no business bringing human right abuses made on the part of the United States, that their claims/concerns become hollow/invalid. They do not become hollow/invalid, despite China’s own negative track record regarding human right abuses.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Nope
None of those analogies have anything to do with sports. Stick to sports if you want to stay in the same logical realm. I never said the logic of sports applies to politics.
Logic is logic, my friend
Sports are not somehow different.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Actually that's false
You can’t compare apples and oranges.
There are logic games. Read some Wittgenstein.
There are *different*
logic games, that should read.
Agreed
Russell’s paradox should stick to math and leave barbers out of it.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You get a rec
just for mentioning Russell’s P.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Just because a team has a better record that last few years
doesn’t make that team infallible and it doesn’t invalidate the opinion of opposing team’s fans – especially when those opinions in question are supported by rational argument.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But it does take away your right to mock
in my opinion.
You want to constructively criticize? Have at it.
But a fan of a fourth place team mocking a first place team is a loser IMO.
Constructive criticism
Dear Ruben Amaro,
Don’t give out anymore retarded contracts like the Howard deal.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Your contribution so far to AA is offensive.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Why?
Cause I’m not a ridiculous optimist like some of you?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I don't spend much/any time around here
and I thought you were a Phillies fan, so….
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not
I’m a disgruntled Mets fan who appreciates how good the Phillies have been the last five years while the Mets have been horrendous.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not buying it.
And if you think it’s somehow illogical, petty or ridiculous for one fan base whose team might currently stink, to mock a team and/or it’s fan base who may have won the division several years running….then might I suggest you stay away from our game threads here. Or…you might want to find a sense of humor before the season starts.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
My sense of humor is fine
I just thing it’s kind of pathetic is all.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you even come
close to knowing what a sense of humor is, in this context.
That and you must be new here.
Something tells me our brand of humor will completely allude you if you follow game threads here.
Or….maybe you’ve picked the wrong NY team to follow if ‘DA RINGZ’ are all that matter to you.
(although I’m still convinced you’re a closet Philly fan.)
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Think whatever false claims
you’d like.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
I’m an Orioles fan as well as a Mets fan. I’ve been making fun of the Red Sox and Yankees for the last 10 years and it’s the only thing that keeps me sane.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well if it keeps you sane
then I’m not saying you shouldn’t do it for your sanity.
I’m just saying I find it kind of petty. You should be mocking your own franchise IMO. They are the ones that deserve it, not the Yanks / Sox.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like you can only criticize one team.
We can criticize the Mets and the Phillies when they deserve it.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Constructively criticize
the Phillies all you like.
But mocking them is petty and pathetic. They have utterly owned us in every way that matters for 5 years now.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I mock my own teams plenty as well.
And the MFY and PHN def. do deserve to be mocked.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
LOL
uh…no.
No sense of humor makes for one angry fan.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Try making fun of other teams more.
You will be less angry.
Also, subject yourself to some irrational hope, it’s what makes baseball fun. That little bit of unfounded optimism every end of March that makes you think maybe, just maybe, your team will play well this year even if they look terrible on paper.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Which is half of what makes
a fan, a fan….IMO.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
for real
since when isn’t it ok to use humor to lighten up a bleak situation. especially when talking about a PASS TIME, for fuck’s sake? Forget logic people, we are talking about fun.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Haven't you heard?
There are no jokes on AA!
LupoJohn’d
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you're a Mets fan?
whoa!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You clearly don't read AA much.
The vast majority are predicting anything but an optimistic season.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And they shouldn't be optimistic
they should be utterly pessimistic.
And having a slightly above average first baseman, if that even comes to pass, does not alter that.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
And that's your prerogative
but the fact is, many baseball fans enjoy baseball and look forward to the upcoming baseball season, because they are baseball fans.
I don’t know what kind of personal issues you have but fighting tooth and nail to ruin this sport for everyone else, is what’s really petty.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not ruining anything
there are plenty of good teams you can watch.
The Mets are not one of them.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
so by the associative property
his contribution to AA so far is… retarded? I guess that works.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Using the word "retarded"
in that way is offensive to many people.
every breath you take is offensive to me
this is the internet, get over it
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I apologize....
for nothing
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
we should take your word on that
because clearly you know a lot about being a loser
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Why
cause i’m not some cock-eyed optimist who thinks the Mets are currently worth watching? I can live with being that kind of loser.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
because you give up on 'your team' before the season starts
and just want to rip them and call them losers. I would hate to be related to you
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You can take our lives
but you can never take our freedom…. to mock the Phillies
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You're right
you’re free to do as you want.
I just find it pathetic.
You prefer "kickin' em while they're down," I guess?
Where’s the fun in being a 95 win team making fun of a team that’s won ~ 70 games for the last decade. Do you get enjoyment out of mocking Pirates fans?
A stupid move is a stupid move is a stupid move. Signing Ryan Howard to that albatross of a contract was a stupid move. Trading prospects for Lee, just to sign him the next year was a stupid move. Just because the Phillies are good doesn’t mean they are infallible.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Also, sidenote
Anyone else hope aronofsky is his last name or something and not a reference to the director.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No, I love his films
I’m upset that’s two things we have in common.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Uh, oh
now you’ve opened the door for any 40 posts on the illogical, logical defense.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Actually, I kind of like to imagine that in a brownstone in
downtown Brooklyn, Darren Aronofsky is furiously pounding out a screenplay in which the protagonist is beset by idiotic Mets fans.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 29, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I do prefer kickin em while they are down.
When we win, we get bragging rights. Not a moment before.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Classy
I bet you laugh at poor people too. Hahaha, poor have no money so they can’t afford food AND healthcare. HAHAHAHAHAHA
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No, I don't laugh at poor people.
Sports and politics are not identical.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
This raises an interesting dicussion point
Is poverty more of a political issue or social issue? Discuss.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think it is all Beltran's fault
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I blame aronofsky40.
Just because.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 29, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
#blamearonofsky40
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Lohaus#54
Lohaus#54
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
GROOPTHINK!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
GROOPTHINK makes so I don't have to use my brain to form my own opinions
I like that
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
quit licking Wilpon's balls
stick with licking Simon’s!
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Tell Neil Simon to wake up
and see that Saber Sandy is ruining the Mets!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
When in doubt
#blameBeltran
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Jan 30, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
We will make fun of them, their players and their fans
and they will do the same to us. That is part of what being a fan of a team is about, part of what having pride in your team is about, try it sometime
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Sorry
but we have no right to make fun of them. They have DOMINATED us. We suck.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
that takes away nothing from our rights to make ourselves feel better
You ma’am, are a MORAN!!! It doesn’t take away our right to make fun of their bad contracts, since it is one of the few things about them that has sucked lately. It doesn’t take away our right to make fun of their bandwagon fans, who suddenly think it is in vogue to make fun of the Mets and their fans. We can do whatever the fuck we want, it’s sports, not a dictatorship
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You can do whatever you want
but it’s pathetic, IMO.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
well you are in the 1% then, and not just on this website
but 100% of people not going by the name aronofsky40 would think everything you have said here is pathetic
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And raise your hand
if you don’t think Ted Berg’s collection of ridiculous Hamel’s photos is not down right funny.
No hands raised, right?
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Or Kannonlaser's collection of hilarious Shane Victorino GIFs.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The success of that TEAM has no barring on how bad that Howard deal is.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
The Howard deal is bad.
I have never actually disputed that anywhere here. Nor have I argued that Howard has been better than Ike Davis since Ike has come up.
All I’ve said is that a) So far Ike has been nothing special – as in, all-star good – and b) fans of the Mets shouldn’t be mocking the phillies considering the respective success of each franchise over the last 5 or so years.
.
33 / 116
may be unimpressive to you.
But it’s a hall of a lot more impressive than anything Mets have gotten out of 1B since 2008.
I assume “anything” here includes Ike Davis, no?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Offensively?
Sure. Ike’s value has come mostly from his defense.
In 2010 Ike put up a wOBA of .345
Howard put up .367
Which do you think is better?
Moving field posts...
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
1. You said Howard was better then anything the Mets had had at 1B.
2. Ike was in fact better then Howard in 2010 (3.5 WAR > 1.4 WAR).
3. Now you are saying that #2 doesn’t count because Howard had a higher wOBA.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
1. I *meant* offensively
and we were talking about offense at the time. My mistake if that wasn’t clear. Happy to concede that it might have been unclear.
2. Howard (126 wRC+) was better offensive than Ike Davis (115) in 2010.
3. #2 was only in reference to offense, which is what we were discussing at the time (homers, RBI’s, etc). Not total value.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
So that means every Mets player is worse than the Phillies personnel?
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
by Jsz on Jan 29, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The Mets as a whole
is a hell of a lot worse than the Phillies.
Wouldn't it be are? Is doesn't sound right.
Also, the Phillies are on a serious downward spiral, they have way too many deadweight contracts. And Papelbon? Yeah, have fun with that one. Sure the Phils are a good team, but their time at the top of the NL is over. If you couldn’t win it all with the team you had last year, it doesn’t get much better.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Their time is over?
Let’s see which team comes to first place next year and which team comes closer to last…
Sadly, I never said the Mets were going to be any great shakes next year.
But with the Marlins improving and (I can’t believe I’m about to say this) the Nats getting better, combined with the Braves playing well, the Phils aren’t going to be cruising to a NL East title like they have in the past. Granted, they should benefit from Pujols and Fielder leaving the NL. However, their lineup is deteriorating and injuries are going to keep killing them.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
LOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA shut up.
"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner
by nymgb44 on Jan 29, 2012 8:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 8 recs
that's why it just got green'd
and you probably been flagged a dozen times
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hell, even I flagged one of his "Mets suck" posts 'cuz his attitude annoyed me
and I’m not easily bothered, that’s probably the second time I’ve flagged anything. Which reminds me, bring back freakystyley!
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by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Howard's also been paid a hell of a lot more money.
Mets 1Bs salary since 2008, minimum of 20 games at first:
2008: Carlos Delgado, $16,000,000
2009: Delgado, $12,000,000; Daniel Murphy, $401,000; Fernando Tatis, $1,700,000
2010: Ike Davis, $400,000 (approx – cannot find exact total for minimum);
2011: Murphy, $422,000; Nick Evans, $422,000 (est.); Lucas Duda, $414,000; Davis, $432,000
Total: $31,790,000 (estimated)
Ryan Howard’s salary since 2008: $64,000,00.
All things considered, I’d rather have our guys for what they’re making than Howard and his absurd salary.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 29, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
All thing considered
I’d take an overpaid first baseman and a world series win over an underpaid first baseman and no world series win.
In other words, I’d trade the Phillies last five years for the Mets last five years. In a heartbeat.
What does that have to do with Howard being ridiculously overpaid NOW?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Just that overpaying Howard
hasn’t stopped the Phillies from being 500x more successful than the Mets, both in 2008 and now.
they overpaid Howard because they were succesful
they weren’t successful because they overpaid Howard. the signing has absolutely no bearing on the success the Phillies have enjoyed since 2007, as he would have been under their control without that absurd extension.
in short, you have no point other than to be negative on the Mets and put the Phillies on a pedestal.
by theamato on Jan 29, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Well the Mets have sucked
and the Phillies have been great, so I don’t see where my point of view is the wrong one.
Until the end of 2010, the Mets occupied first or second place long than the Phillies between the six-year time period between 2005 and 2010
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And then the Phillies won a world series
while the Mets have completely tanked.
Sorry, the Phillies have been a hugely successful franchise since 2006, while the Mets have gone from middling to garbage.
World Series victory or not, your claim is objectivley incorrect regarding the success of the two franchises
People who measure success solely by World Series championships, I feel bad for them.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
Well we don’t have the same philosophy of baseball then.
Championships is the only measure of success that really matters. Everything else is rubbish. The point is to win the whole contest. Not to come in fourth place in the standings.
29 teams are abject failures, then
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The whole
“Second place is just best loser” idea is utter nonsense. It takes tremendous skill and luck to be the best in anything, and to call someone who got a few bad bounces a failure is absurd.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Agree to disagree.
It makes you a good failure IMO.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
well you are a bad failure
though you have failed epically, so I guess that makes you good at failing, which might be a type of good failure, but really just makes you a MORAN
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
now my head hurts, but I got the MORAN part.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's your prerogative, I guess
but it’s a shame that you can only get enjoyment out of baseball when your team wins the World Series. There’s a lot more nuance and intrigue to the game than just that. Winning the World Series is obviously great but baseball is a beautiful game with plenty to enjoy outside of just winning the last game of the season in October.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I get plenty of enjoyment out of baseball
just not out of the Mets. Who suck. I enjoy watching good teams play. Hopefully the Mets will be good again one day. Til then, they won’t be enjoyable to me. They are a miserable, sucky team.
There can't be good teams though.
There is only one good team in any given year if every team who doesn’t win a WS is an failure.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
There are good teams
but they are still failures.
Sooo what are you doing spending so much time on this site?
You don’t enjoy anything about them, why not just forget about them?
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by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's a false claim
I actually enjoy bitching about how awful they are!
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.metsmerizedonline.com
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd.
Might I suggest you join the ‘Core’ over at MMO? They’d love to increase their ranks.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Maybe he can help Metsie with his book.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
MMO's coeur foeur
Metsie, BayonneMetsFan, Alex68, aronofsky40?
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
They need a fourth
since I see that ‘Omar Ghost’ dude was finally banned.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think it was "Ghost of Omar"
But I try to limit my exposure to the corona of the Mets-sphere that is MMO.
Hey aronofsky40, what’s your opinion on Sandy Alderson?
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yes, that was him.
Accusing the rest of worshiping at the alter of ‘Saber Sandy, our God’.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He hasn't done anything
of consequence but that isn’t really his fault. I feel Sandy’s legacy will bhave to be judged on how his draft picks pan out.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
which one is Pomes?
o yeah, that would be aronofsky40
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yup...I think I said it before but
the “sell the team” schtick in every post is very Metsblog comment section-ish.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
it is at this point I am flagging you for being a troll Mr Pomes
I hope Eric wakes up and sends you to the deepest depths of banishment
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No problem
I flagged you for trolling me as well.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ok so you dont enjoy the Mets
I believe by definition that makes you NOT a Mets fan.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well we disagree on that
I enjoy the Mets when they attempt to field some semblance of a decent team.
so you're only a Mets fan when it's convenient?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
define decent
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But they would still be failures if they didn't win the WS.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Are you sure you're not a secret Yankees fan?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm a disgruntled Mets fan
and any Mets fan who isn’t disgruntled is wrong not to be, IMO.
Disgruntled ≠ illogically pessimistic.
You should be mad at the Wilpons, not making ridiculously pessimistic “arguments”.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
“illogically” pessimistic?
Have you actually been following this team?
The team overall sucks, yeah.
That doesn’t not however mean every player on it also sucks – or did Reyes suck his way to a 6.2 WAR last season?
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Reyes was great
good thing we’re going to have a lot of players like that this season!
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Which brings us back to those field posts...
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Example of a false claim
aronofsky40 is a Mets fan
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
"doesn’t not" should be "does not"
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ike Davis is only a very valuable first baseman
if you trust one year of UZR data.
Offensively, he hasn’t been that great. wOBA .345 in his full season, and there’s no assurance he is going to get significantly better. Maybe he will, maybe he won’t.
In this case, the 1+ years of UZR data (you're right, not reliable as such)
Corroborates our eyes AND Ike’s minor league scouting report/reputation. He may not consistently be an +11UZR fielder, but I feel confident that his glove is elite for his position. In any case, he is significantly better than Howard, who you appear to prefer?
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 29, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
I don't prefer Howard
I prefer Pujols and Fielder. Who Ike can’t even begin to approach at this point.
Oh, hey there moving field posts.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
.
33 / 116
may be unimpressive to you.
But it’s a hall [sic] of a lot more impressive than anything Mets have gotten out of 1B since 2008.
That was in reference to Haward being superior.
Now that we have all shown you how Ike is the favorable player now and in the future, it’s not enough because Ike’s not Pujols or Fielder. Oh, and side note, Ike was worth 3.5 fWAR in ‘10 compared to Fielder’s 3.4 fWAR.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You haven't shown me anything
Offensively, Howard has been a superior player for the most part. Ike’s major value has come from his defense, and we’ll see if that holds up when we have an adequate sample size.
And Fielder has put up enough seasons of 5+ to show that the one year where his WAR was lower due to UZR just shows the inadequacy of one year of UZR data.
1. 2010 was pretty much a normal year for Fielder UZR wise. -7.8 UZR in 2010 with a career -6.4.
2. In addition to what BDMF posted above about through their age 24 season, Ike has put up wRC+’s of 115 and 152 the last two years while Howard has put up wRC+’s of 126 and 123. Even if you regress a bit for Ike’s ht start, he was not only better last year but is also trending up whereas Howard is trending down.
3. Again, you’re conflating past performance with current and future expected performance.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
1. True. His offense was down that year
but still, he’s proven a lot more than Ike has so far.
2. Ike isn’t trending anything. He’s put up on year of ML stats. Then he got hurt. Let’s see what he does the next two years. Hopefully it will be up.
3. I’m not conflating anything. All I’ve argued is that Ike hasn’t been any great shakes so far, and let’s see him be before I start singing his praises.
I prefer Ike to Prince
Maybe not in 2012 or even 2013, but 2014 and on, Ike should be the better player. And a team with financial struggles should take the bet on the inexpensive high risk vs. the expensive low risk.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ike *should* be
but very little ever goes right for the Mets.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's because we're snakebitten, baby
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Let's not forget how Howard has been declining since his gigantic 2006 season.
Not to mention that he’s coming off a torn ACL that may sideline him for months and potentially sap him offensively when he returns.
Maybe Ike doesn’t improve but I think it’s a much better bet that Howard continues his precipitous decline. I mean, isn’t it pretty incredible that the guy is a “power hitter” and he couldn’t even crack a .500 SLG last season?
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This.
Only the Philly fans are believing Howard will be patrolling first come opening day and will somehow replicate his MVP season.
While he had to work hard to ‘overcome’ his poor defensive skills, at best all he was ever going to be at first was average. Some of what saved him was Utley at 2nd. Utley himself is going to be questionable as far as range now with his hip/knee problems so that right side of the IF might be giving up more hits than in years past.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Fair
Howard is no great shakes.
It’s just that so far neither is Ike. Call me when he puts up 5+ WAR.
i get the feeling you'll be hearing from us soon then
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by KeithsMoustache on Jan 29, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
there we go, almost some optimism!
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Wow! Every post in this thread has been about Howard…
…and aronofsky40, which may be why he keeps doing this.
by Curtis3331 on Jan 29, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Doing what, posting?
Just sharing my opinion. Which is that while Ryan Howard has mostly been nothing special, neither has Ike been. So far.
Yeah 4.9 fWAR over his first 750 PA's.
Nothing to get excited about…
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Based largely on an unreliable one year UZR
Like I said, let’s see him put up a 5 WAR season or two, and I’ll get excited.
It's not very unreliable when every scout loves his glove and he is making clearly solid plays and hanging over dugout railings.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
So now
we’re going to trust our eyes and scouts, rather than actually collecting data?
You are the one who is so concerned about unreliable one year UZR.
And where did I say it should supersede the data? It collaborates with the data and supports it.
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The data is what matters.
When we have a few years of UZR, we’ll know what Ike really is.
So let me get this straight
-Scouts report his plus defense
-Other players report his plus defense
-We watch and see him play plus defense
-The defensive metrics show plus defense
What’s the issue here?
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Sample size is too small
What matters is the data. When we have a few years worth of data, we’ll know what kind of defensive 1B Ike really is at the major league level.
I don’t trust my eyes and I don’t trust scout’s eyes, I trust the data.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
When everything (including the small sample of UZR) says Ike Davis is a good defender
it’s a safe bet to say he’s a good defender.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
We'll see.
Sample size is too small. I’m not sold yet.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
He was touted as a plus defensive first baseman out of college
The only small sample size is in one year of UZR which corroborates what we’ve heard about him from 2008, four years ago, and possibly even earlier before he entered the draft.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I hope he puts up 10 more years of + UZR
I really do.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
even at very stats oriented sites
many years of minor league scouts + 1 1/4 years of MLB UZR + fan, coach, and player scouting reports = a good estimate of defensive value.
Sure, we can’t say he is a true talent +10UZR fielder, or a true talent +5UZR fielder, or a true talent +15UZR fielder. But it would defy all logic and expectation for Ike to be a BAD or even average fielder with the evidence that we have.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
not to mention the other fielding metrics
Total Zone, etc. also really like Ike’s defense so far. Yeah…pretty sure Ike Davis is a good defender.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hope you're right.
But I don’t care about the scouting reports. Show me the numbers.
Holy shit, this is absolute genius, you're just a caricature
This is fucking performance are. Really annoying, really irritating performance art, but performance art nonetheless! You are taking what we say to the extreme. All you care about is WAR and the numbers and derive no joy in actually watching the games. You even had astromets ask you if you watch the games, a question every single one of us has been asked when we say things like “Jeter is a bad defensive shortstop.”
You are the made up stereotype that the mainstream has purported all sabermetric baseball fans to be. Bravo. I wouldn’t even be surprised if you don’t know what WAR, UZR, wRC+, etc., even are.
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
he is a troll
his name is Greg Pomes and he got tired of chaffing, so he came here for a little
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
how is 116 RBIs the 17th best 1B?
last I checked every season he is nearthe top in HR and RBI. and last I checked runs win games.
I am happy with Ike, and think he is a better all around 1B,but lets not take away Howard’s power numbers,and the fact that he helps the Phils make it to the playoffs every season. I would oove to see Bay hit 33/116
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 12, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Joe Mauer
So hot right now.
#Bradyismymancrush
by The Talented Mr. Dickey on Jan 29, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Tom Brady will be jealous you said that
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
although Howard's contract is lol
what do you really expect Amaro to say about his own player that he’s stuck with for 5 more years? that he sucks and regrets giving out the contract? it’s a loaded question: either answer he can give is the wrong one.
that being said, i still laugh because i think Amaro actually believes what he’s saying rather than just trying to be diplomatic. the evidence (Paplebon’s contract) seems to agree with me.
by theamato on Jan 29, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Well
at least Howard isn’t Jason Bay and can still hit a HR. Once Bay is gone, Howard will be worse, and I will enjoy laughing at that one even more
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Okay, enjoy your albatross!
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
by StorkFan on Jan 29, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
What the fuck happened in this post ?
I just finished watching Moneyball, and walk smack into this.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
One person's conflation and unrealistic standards.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
My standards are perfectly realistic.
Plenty of teams are good and have all-star quality players.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
what is your favorite color ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
It’s Philly red right now.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you and I will get along
just fine then
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Teh pinstripes
The color of winnars
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
BUT MOST OF THEM ARE FAILURES
because they haven’t won the World Series. I mean, the Rangers totally suck amirite?!
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No, the Rangers are great
But they are failures. They are good but they suck because despite having good players, their players are not good. We can agree to disagree, but I disagree with your agreement, because you lick Wilpon ass.
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by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Fucking logic
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and so tonight becomes another fun aa meme
a much needed troll to liven things up in an otherwise boring offseason
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
so true
aronofsky666 is now in the Troll Hall of Fame. Along with freakeystyley, Oh Brett, and too many others I am too tired to remember right now.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
luopjohn, centerpede, Lohaus
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
omg
how could i forget LOHAUS.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
adamlawson's RAW DAWG
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
tho i don't remember centerpede
maybe i’ll go back and read…
…yeah, nevermind.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Brian Singer
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Coward
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
We can't forget Scotty, either.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
wall of vagina
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
oh goddamn it i had finally excised that memory
and now it’s all coming rushing back :(
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh goodness...what was seen there can never be unseen.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HVW
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that's what is was called
thanks, was bugging me that I couldn’t remember
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
accursed HVW!!!
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That was one of the first threads I read on AA.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And you still came back?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That thread showed me there were a lot of intelligent, funny people on AA who knew how to argue logically.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Who was it that spawned the Troll Leverage Index
Schmidt someone or other?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ahem
Re-posting for the memories, from the Unwritten Rules thread

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
by Michkin on Jan 30, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
update needed
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Troll Ladder v2.0

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
by Michkin on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
well done sir
well done
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
GeddyLeeIsGod is kind of a forgotten classic.
The guy loved Jeff Francoeur! How do you get any trollier than that?
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
he also quoted Tim McCarver
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That's not the Troll Leverage Index
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No, this is the troll ladder. The troll leverage index was posted 50 comments below.
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
by Michkin on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I saw.
Z takes me from top to bottom
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i dont know why, but BigJohninFla was one of the most fun for me
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I might be because he specifically went after you.
Then, he questioned your intelligence. That was funny.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yeah he brought a knife to a cannonfight in that one
and i guess going toe-to-toe with him made it more amusing
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
paperman/wolfman?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously
How did this happen??
Astro Traveler
by BlackOps on Jan 29, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not sure
though now I sort of feel partially responsible for this whole brouhaha.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I just noticed this applesauce is titled "Snack-Size"
hahahaha
Astro Traveler
by BlackOps on Jan 29, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Clearly it's not snack-size anymore with over 400 comments.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
anybody for a midnight snack thread?
I am going to get some ice cream, chocolate fudge brownie!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this is a Mo Vaughn sized snack
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Actually
reconsidering this, I think everybody’s just going through some really bad baseball withdrawal symptoms. We’re at that point where nothing’s really happening transaction-wise, there are still no games to watch, the Super Bowl isn’t for another week for football fans and there’s still two months until Opening Day. Not to mention that we’re all a bit hostile to begin with considering the state of the organization’s finances (or lack thereof).
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The Royal Rumble was on tonight, but it was pretty sucky, all together
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
not to mention
the Knicks suck, hockey is in pointless all-star time, and there is a troll amongst us
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
haha wow
I’ve really kicked the Hornets’ nest, haven’t I!
GUISE, I WANTED TO SHARE MY OPININ OF THE MONEYBALL MOVIE
SO I CAME HERE BUT I SEE THIS IS A BAD TIME BECUASE RON HOWARD FROM TEH PHILLOLIES IS THE BEST PLAYAR IN TEH HOLE WORLD AND IT ISNT RIGHT FOR ME TO CHANGE TEH SUBJICT, BUT ANYWAY, BACK TO TEH MOVIE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MYSTREY HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED ART HOW WAS A DOUCHE AFTER ALL WHICH EXPLAINS WHY HE LIT UP TEH ROOM WHEN JEFFY TALKED WITH HIM – ALSO BILLY BEAN IS AN IDIOT FOR TURNING DOWN TEH RED SOX BECUASE WE KNOW THEY ARE WINNARS AND THEY EVEN STOLE BOBBY VALENTIN FROM US – BUT AFTER WATCHING THE MOVIE I THINK MR. OLDERSAN SHOULD GO AND GET SCOTT HATTERBERG FOR WHEN IKE DAVID CANT PLAY ANYMOAR THIS YEAR – I MEAN THAT GUY CAN HIT A TON – IT IS EVEN IN TEH MOVIE WHEN HE HITS A HOMAR !!!!
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Ron Howard LOL
Guess that makes this post a magnum Opie (sorry).
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
by StorkFan on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
RON HOWARD
AND THE PHILLS ARE DA BOMB!!
green’d.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Wait, so let me get this straight
aronofsky40 is a big Mets fan, but he is pissed that they suck, and therefore will watch the Phillies and Red Sox to compensate……………and, he is here why ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Because as a whole, we generally enjoy the Mets despite realizing that they aren't very good
And that’s just unacceptable, and he must show us our errors.
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Misery loves company
is the kindest theory I can muster
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I enjoy bitching
about how horrible my favorite team is. Makes me feel better. : )
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Trolling.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's not trolling
I’m a fan.
Why does everyone have to be a Wilpon ass-licking optimist?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
My mistake.
You convinced me.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That was a serious question.
Are pessimists not allowed to be here?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Pessimists are fine
Trolls are not.
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by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What have I done
that constitutes trolling besides being a pessimist exactly?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I don't know...
Why does everyone have to be a Wilpon ass-licking optimist?
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 29, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
a valid question
is why are you still here? Go hate AA’ers at the sites listed above by Piazza62
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You're a troll who apparently does little reading
Point out ONE person on this site who thinks favorably of them, ONE.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
There's a difference between not liking the Wilpons
and saying I have no reason to like or watch the Mets when they’re not a great team, and I prefer watching the Phillies.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sure
There’s a difference. But you’re still supporting them.
My or a few fans watching the team on SNY
will not be the difference between them losing or keeping the team
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
it's symbolic of us being fans
regardless of who owns the team
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It is symbolic
of our struggle against oppression
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
thank you Loretta
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I will always support the Mets
because I am a Mets fan, a die hard Mets fan at that. I write this as I sit in my apartment wearing a Mets snuggie I got for xmas last year.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
your definition of valid question varies greatly from the standard
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
im pretty sure when your question involves the term "Wilpon ass-licking optimist"
we’re going to go with the regular old standards of decency
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you aren't even a fan, you just like bitching about them
you said that yourself. That constitutes a troll. You’re calling us all out about the ‘Pons, when we all know each others opinions pretty well, and that opinion is ’Fuck the ’Pons, I hope they lose the team and sell immediately!’ Your Yankee fan requirement that everyone be an all-star, or else they aren’t fun to watch.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think bitching
constitutes trolling. Maybe we have to agree to disagree on that.
I don’t need every player to be an all-star. One would be nice. But even that’s not necessary. I do ask that you field a competitive team, year in and out. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
you are beyond bitching
you are just being a troll, disagreeing with anything being said.
Again, define competitive, by record
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You give pessimists a bad name.
And enjoy yourself while it lasts. I have a feeling you won’t be entertaining us all season with your special brand of logic.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
TKGJ will be angered
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ah...
but we like TKGJ, just by virtue of the fact that we can usually talk him down from that ledge pretty quick.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 30, 2012 4:37 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and he is only so irrational
and doesn’t call us wilpon ass lickers
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You are the biggest wilpon asslicker
of them all.
yep, you got me
I just finished licking Fred and told Jeff to hold on, I need to defend the Wilpons more on my favorite anti-Wilpon site, Amazin Avenue.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
make sure to brush your teeth
who knows where they’ve been
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
is that TKFJ's brother ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fraternal twins, yes
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
when has anyone here said anything positive about the Wilpons???
wtf is wrong with you? O yeah, you’re a TROLL!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The fuck are you talking about?
NOBODY likes the Wilpons, and as far as I can tell the most optimistic among us think we might get lucky this year and end up in 4th place instead of last.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Then why are you giving me a hard time for saying that exact thing?
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I dunno, maybe it's because you're being a total douchenozzle about it? :)
When multiple people tell you to stop trolling, there’s a good chance you are trolling, whether you are doing it intentionally or not, and ought to take a moment to think about your behavior and if it’s appropriate to continue behaving that way if you don’t want to be shown the door.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't believe I've done anything wrong.
If they show me the door, they show me the door.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 29, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
that probably won't happen until opening day
Simon needs the page hit$ now that he is going to be a father and all.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
have you read my sig??
been there since August
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you crazy
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I believe in... wait, read this

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ya gotta !
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Somebody Dickeyface that guy!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
somebody dickeyface that crowd!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Karl Erhardt
grandfather of the game thread.
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
by StorkFan on Jan 30, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
his name is Greg Pomes
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well,
now I can see the sense of his logic. Pomes logic is one of a kind.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wouldn't be surprised, honestly.
I’m sure he’s got plenty of time on his hands.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I always thought his hands were busy
holding twinkies or things similar, but much much smaller than that
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ZING!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I MISS BASEBALL AND WANT TO WATCH THE SHITTY METS LOSE
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this is so wrong
but it made me lulz. get well soon, spiderman. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Every time I see
a ton of comments on an Applesauce, I know some huge argument broke out.
But on a serious note, we should be celebrating the fact that we now know Ice Cube’s Good Day.
And if not, I turn around & say forget it.
by Brian. on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
that link made less sense to me than this comments section
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Made perfect sense to me
And an easy rec
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the rec was a given on this stream
I just know very little about wtf he is talking…about
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You don't know Ice Cube's classic track "Today was a good day?"
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I actually put it on just before you said that, thank you spotify
but honestly I don’t think so, I am musically pretty ignorant and readily admit it. I just don’t know enough, just that most shit on the radio these days is just that, shit. Always open for suggestions for better music, and like artists of almost all genre
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I took a class on Jazz, so know some about that
but don’t have time to figure out who is good now, or what is worth listening to from the past 20 years
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This applesauce gave me too much of a headache to read that
I think it’s time for an AA classic:

37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Extra big
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Are you referring to her, or the .gif?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I report, you decide
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
always a good decision
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, wait a minute
you mean we're not the team to beat this year?
Dang.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 29, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Lots of recs here
Did someone ask for a greenvalanche of every post besides aronofsky40’s?
Astro Traveler
by BlackOps on Jan 29, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
it was never asked for
I just hoped I could make it so. Plus, there was so much to be rec’d, and so much already rec’d when I got here
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So let's see what we've established:
1. Ryan Howard is nothing special.
2. Ike Davis, so far, has been nothing special.
3. Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder are pretty awesome.
4. The Mets are going to be terrible next year, and the Phillies are not.
I think that about covers it.
5. you are not a Mets fan
6. Your name is Greg Pomes
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He can't be as he hates the Wilpons
Pomes on the other hand loves them for some reason and blames Sandy for everything.
by graves9 on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah I don't know who that is.
But if he loves the Wilpons he definitely doesn’t have anything in common with me.
You don't know who Pomes is
but you call yourself a Met fan?
Defies all logic.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 30, 2012 4:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I will readily debate the
Prince Fielder is pretty awesome part. He can be, but he’s vastly overrated.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I was going to say
I don’t know when 3 was established, or 2 agreed upon, and 4 is weak sauce that better GTFO here
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
7. You must live a very lonely existence
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
by Syler on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
7b. with very hairy palms
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Insult me all you want
it doesn’t change the fact that this team is going to stink. And it’s partially because of people like you who are still willing to support them even though they aren’t fielding a competitive team.
This is the single
most illogical point you’ve made yet.
Do you really believe, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if the Wilpons were forced out, a new owner would guarantee you a winning baseball team?
One can hope, of course. But new owners could be along the lines of Loria. And before you respond with ‘but look at the money he spent this year’, you might want to look beyond the obvious on what he’s really doing there.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 30, 2012 4:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's illogical that I believe new owners will be able to field a competitive team?
Sorry bub there’s nothing illogical there.
It's illogical to assume that Mark Cuban and his merry men
Are going to come into citi field and wave their magic wand over the mets to make them winnars. Especially not when you have a front office focused on rebuilding and not spending just for the hell of it.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 8:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
A NYC team
shouldn’t ever be in rebuilding mode. Certainly not for more than a season.
Yes, they should.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
When have the Yanks been in rebuilding mode since 1995?
They haven't
Because they haven’t been bad. When your bad, and your organization is light on talent, you rebuild. NYC has nothing to do with it.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
They haven't been bad
because they actually know how to run a good organization.
The Wilpons do not.
And they should sell.
the Wilpons have nothing to do with the GMs making the trade and signing the players
For the most part, they just write the checks, and until this year, those checks have been huge
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
like it or not
no one has the same unlimited resources as the Yankees, so that they can go into rebuilding mode while buying the most expensive players. Maybe, if POS’s like you supported the team, the Mets would have more money, but you think it is wise to be a fan who doesn’t watch or support their team. riiiight
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They've been good since then, a combination of spending, spending, spending, and shrewed and lucky drafting
Though, by your definition of success, they’ve been abject failures for the majority of the time period between then and the present. So, maybe they should be doing some rebuilding.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They would agree with me that they've failed most seasons
since 2000. They would be the first to agree. And so would their fans.
If you seriously think 2006 is a failed season
Then you really are a Yankees fan.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
so you disagree with his statement
you being a Yankees fan. See Loretta, you are a moran. This Yankee fan was the first to DISAGREE
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wholeheartedly disagree with his statement
Fans like him consider every year without a RINGZZ a failure, and I cannot stand that. They’re 100% spoiled by what the Yankees did from 98-00’ and they expect it every year, not realizing how much of a total fluke & fortunate circumstance of luck something like that really is.
Last year was one of the happiest years in my baseball watching life. I’m happy enough if they make it to the postseason and if they don’t, oh well. That’s baseball. Shit happens. People like him want a ring every year, and it’s sickening.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
apparently that sentiment has found its way among Mets fans too
It would be nice to have a ring every year, but that is not realistic
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's almost impossible
The playoffs are a total crapshoot. But fans like him consider every year they don’t win a failure, which is insane.
Again, like you’ve all said. He’s not a true Mets fan. He fits in perfectly with the Yankees fanbase I hate so much!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
or the Phillies new fanbase
the ones there since like 2008
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Trust me
The one positive I take out of the hated Red Sox winning in 04 and 07 is that now their miserable fanbase, the true ones that suffered through so many years of failure, know what it’s like to have arrogant, moronic, frontrunning fans like aronofsky40 taking up their seats at Fenway as one of the new members of the Red Sox Nation.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So, where there is smoke, there's fire
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and also
just look at the money the Mets have spent the past 10 years. Has it gone to good use, not always, but the Wilpons have given the Mets GM’s plenty of money to work with over the years and nothing has worked out. Now we have a GM who actually wants to build a system that will field a competitive team year in and year out, and isn’t going to waste the teams money on a quick fix that probably won’t lead to a championship this year. We have no clue how the team will actually pan out until the season starts and the games are played, that is why we all watch, you fool, to see what will happen and to see who should still be around for the next seriously good Mets team. If you don’t think the Mets have any exciting players, then you haven’t actually watched a game in a loooong time. It doesn’t take 5 WAR to suddenly become exciting, a player can have an awesome bat but be kind of shitty in the field, but all the HRs and doubles he hits are very exciting. OR, switch it around, a player like Rey Ordonez couldn’t hit for shit, but you wanted to watch him every game because he might go completely horizontal, 5 feet above the ground, and rob an amazing hit, then get up and throw the runner from second, who thought for sure it was a hit, out for a DP.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
wow
us watching Mets games has nothing to do with them fielding a competitive team, but everything to do with being Mets fans. You really cannot possibly understand what it means to be a fan if you think you are one of the Mets
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Or we just disagree on what being a fan means
but that kind of intellectual thought is obviously beyond you
No
you can’t just agree to disagree on everything you are wrong about. Being a fan means sticking by your team no matter what. Being a fair-weather fan means saying you’re a fan when things are good, and going to watch a different team when they are not. You are a fair-weather fan at best, a troll at the least
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well in that case
you have the wrong definition of what it is to be a fan.
A real fan would boycott this team to try and force a change in ownership.
I am right and you are wrong.
by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
now you don't even know what it means to be right and wrong?
Son, your parents or the schooling system failed you bad. Rooting for a team has nothing to do with the owners. Love them or hate them, you are rooting for the team they own and the players on it. Things must be really slow over at mmo or metsblog for you to come here and troll this much. Your logic is on par with Metsies from MMO, possibly even worse. I bet you turn your radio on every afternoon and listen, on edge, to what Fatcessa and the FAN callers have to say. Turn your TV on every night for some ‘SC analysis’.
No fan would ever boycott their team, doing so mean they stopped being a fan.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
.
No fan would ever boycott their team
Nail meet head. Boycotting the Wilpons is one thing but boycotting the team is another. One is a fan who has had enough of the owner bringing the team down, the other is not a fan at all.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fan:
noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan
Synonyms
supporter, enthusiast, partisan, booster, addict.
Being a fan of a team means you support that team no matter what. You don’t have to support the Wilpons, but in order to remain a fan, by definition, you must support the team of follow it enthusiastically.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
there you go citing dictionaries again, urban I hope (like mr lawson)?
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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Jesus, this thread was awesome
I log on, there’s like 50 comments. Go watch the Royal Rumble, and in the span of like 2 and a half hours, 350 comments.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Um, you do 350 comments alone in about 2 and a half hours on a regular basis.
Need I point you to your sig?
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wasn't the one doing it, though!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wasn't the one doing it, though!
All the posts without me? Insanity!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Keith
(sort of)
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hate when that happens
It’ll Keith me, and the body of text won’t come out in all of them. How does that happen, I wonder?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
it's the cocaine version of keith?
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by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Coke Keith
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What numbers do you guys usually get?
Camden Chat gets around 1,000 to 2,000 in offseason open threads. I read AA plenty but I rarely comment. (I think I have like 60 comments here).
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
offseason? depends on the subject of the post
couple hundred at most, for a good subject. During the season, during games we get 1,200-1,800 most nights I would say
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
We don't have random offseason open threads about stuff in general
Specific topics, but they usually only are specific to whatever the event is. Last big one was the Fransisco/Rauch/Torres night, but that ended up being three different threads.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
When Reyes signed with the Fish
that was a huge thread. rather cathartic too.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I bet nobody was licking Wilpons sack in that thread
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I remember crying a lot
And missing classes the next day out of depression.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Funny...I was bummed out,
especially when I saw him wearing the uniform at the press conference but I didn’t cry. I remember crying when I found out that John Olerud left to go to Seattle after 1999 but I was 10 years old then. I guess that makes me #TrueSABR.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I remember wishing I had alcohol in the apartment, and someone to drink with.
Definitely was no licking of any part of the Wilpons’ collective bodies that day on AA.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sure, but that was earlier, wasn't it?
Feels like forever already. Jose who?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Love him

hate him

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wonder if he'll have to cut his hair
Didn’t the Marlins make a big deal about Hanley having to cut his puffy hair, and him not wanting to do it, and the media was all like, “HE’S A BABY! HE’S NOT A LEADER! TRAID!”?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Weren't most of these Marlins
on the Marlins teams that made fun of Jose for having all those handshakes and whatnot? Now they are going to have to have all those handshakes with him and whatnot
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That was the Phillies.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I am pretty sure the Marlins did too
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
at the end of the collapse of 2007
part of why they were so intent on kicking our ass in game 162 that year, and then again the next year.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It all depends.
The offseason’s typically slower and the traffic seems to come and go depending on news (a few posts this offseason got some big time traffic—Dan Lewis’ post on the Mets finances was linked to Deadspin and was one of the most viewed pages in the history of the site, Eno’s breaking of the Mets and CRG last month was another big one). During the season the traffic is more constant and the game threads typically get around 1500-2000ish comments.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What an awful Rumble btw
First half of the rumble was almost entirely gimmick selections, and then Sheamus takes the crown. Awful.
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
by Rey-O on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The three announcers was crap
Booker T was the only one who I guess was fine, since he’s still in shape and was actually doing in ring stuff like a month ago. The nostalgia Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Mick Foley and Road Dogg selections, fine. There’s always one or two of those. The only cool surprise was Kharma returning. Sheamus beating Chris Jericho, horrible. Jericho really doesn’t need to win to be a main event guy, but still. You don’t mess up an interesting return story by having Sheamus of all people win.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
which version of Mick Foley showed up
I love that guy
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I used to watch wrestling
Then I turned 12
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
sounds about right, though I got much entertainment at the time and can't blame anyone who does now
I recognized Jericho and Foley from his post, and think I know who Sheamus is from commercials, and the royal rumble is a fun idea…o and Foley went to the same HS as Steven Matz, always going to bring that up
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I used to bang your mom
Then I stopped. I don’t know, I couldn’t come up with a better Your Mom retort.
Come on, don’t be uncool. We all have our things that we should be ashamed of. I have wrestling, you have the Jets…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the Jets retort was better than any your mom retort
anything with Mark Sanchez could have worked too
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And we all have the Mets
so it evens out.
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by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Bunch of failures
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I've been watching tennis for the past two weeks nonstop
Astro Traveler
by BlackOps on Jan 30, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
I was just dicking around, but man, I really laughed hard at that mom joke.
And also, only cause I hear how the Giants make the Superbowl and the Jets only make the Championship game.
We had to go through Palmer, Rivers and lost to Manning, then beat Manning, Brady and lost to Roethlisberger. The Giants beat Ryan, Rodgers and Smith. Only Rodgers is as good or better than the five QB’s the Jets played. The Giants had significantly easier teams to beat in the postseason than the Jets did. That is not to diminish what the Giants did, hell, the Giants are my second favorite team and I hope they kill the Patriots, but lets not make like they aren’t a little lucky to be there.
by Evan_S on Jan 30, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ryan is good
and they also kicked ass for several weeks leading up to the 49ers game, which was just excellent entertainment
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just regular Mick Foley
Instead of wasting spots for the three announcers, they should of had Mick Foley come out three different times, as his three different characters.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
he should have come down on a steel cage last
and locked everyone left in there for awhile with some crazy weapons. It defeats the purpose of the rumble, so they’d have to lift it up at some point, but would be awesome
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They had the steel cage from an earler match, so it would've been there, theoretically
That’d be an insane Royal Rumble. Throw the guy not over the top rope, but over the cage.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hell in a cell
last thing I remember about WWF was the match Cactus Jack lost that made him leave wrestling
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think the Howard contract is just a product of the market we live in today
Nobody thinks Princes or Alberts contract will be worth it in 4 or 5 years.
by TheKid08 on Jan 29, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
his was signed 2 years ago
and he has put up 3 WAR since, and it finally starts paying him this year. It was a product of Amaro being dumb
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think Prince will be worth it by the last three years
Albert will for four or five years, and call me crazy, I think he can earn his entire contract. I think he’ll outperform some years, underperform the last couple, but I think he’ll age like all-time greats such as Schmidt, Aaron, Robinson, etc. did. They call him “The Machine” for a reason.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think Pujols will be worth it
He needs about 4 WAR to be worth it each year. Albert Pujols sucking mightily has still been worth more than 4 WAR. He plays an easy position, hasn’t suffered catastrophic injury…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh yeah, that's right
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That Howard contract
is awful. Product of the market or not, it is awful.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Agree. It's awful.
They made a mistake. It happens. They still field a damn good team every year. And we don’t.
Guy's I figured everything out about aronofsky40

by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Wha' happened?
I come back to this thread at the end of the day to find 350+ new comments? I can only assume that it’s because everyone started replying to aronofsky40.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 29, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
That's where we went wrong
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
justice is never wrong
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Okay, two things that I'm forcing in here, cause it's on TV no.
To Aronofsky40 – This is AA, the Gods will not save you
About threads on AA lately – Most threads here lately have been like a 40-degree day. Ain’t nobody got nothing to say about a 40-degree day. Fifty. Bring a smile to your face. Sixty, shit, niggas is damn near barbecuing on that motherfucker. Go down to 20, niggas get their bitch on. Get their blood complaining. But forty? Nobody give a fuck about 40. Nobody remember 40, and y’all niggas is giving me way too many 40-degree days! What the fuck? This here more like a 20 degree day.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
As an O's fan you don't even know how many times I say "this is baltimore, the gods will not save you"
The Mets are supposed to be my team that makes me happy :(
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I love when people adopt a second team in baseball that's worse than their regular team
I’ve always rooted for the Royals and that’s been my other team, I don’t know why.
37 - 14 - 41 - 31 - 17 - 42 - SHEA
by piazza62 on Jan 29, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I like the O's and Mariners in my spare time
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I didn't really adopt the Mets.
It’s hard to explain, but my family is from NY and I’ve been to more Mets games than O’s game. But I still love the Orioles more. Not to say that I don’t love the Mets. 2000 was probably the most exciting year of baseball for me (other than Sept. 28th, 2011, which isn’t really a year but whatever) of course that didn’t end well at all and it’s been all downhill from there.
Also, my Grandma grew up in the same town as Mike Piazza. I visited family in Norristown back in the day.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Masochism?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Can anyone break out the Troll Leverage Index Chart?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I can and will break this out

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Repost with slight changes

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
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by Michkin on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Yes!!!!!!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Also, should I post a picture of my puppy to calm everyone down?
He’s a year old now!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Yes! Everyone loves puppies!
Except that one guy who thinks all dogs that are not Best in Show at Westminster are bad losers who fail at being domesticated companions.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that sounds like this other guy I know who,
no wait, I see what you did there :P
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Being cute:

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Awwwwww
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Watching the failure Mets:

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Is that his ear bent back?
I love when my puppy (soon to be 13) has his ear bent back and he doesn’t even notice.
by Evan_S on Jan 29, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
As we like to say, he likes to wear his ears the way he wants.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
if I could rec this ten times I would
AWWWWWWWW!!!!!!
Also, I have that blanket
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Soooo cute
and hey, I have that blanket too.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
YES to Puppy Avenue!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Puppy Avenue 2012 is right around the corner!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 29, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Awww yeah!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 29, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Can I have a kitty submission
because my place is too small for a dog and so I got an 8 month old Tabby a few weeks ago named Apollo and he is adorable. He also follows me around like a dog would, he is rather un-cat like
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 29, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's been a while since I've enjoyed a 500+ post on AA (I couldn't bear to be here for the Reyes night)...)
…and it’s made me really, really miss baseball. I mean, fighting with Mr. Logic has been fun but I can’t watch the mediocre Mets with y’all soon.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
cheers to that
Spring training can’t come soon enough
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wish I could just chop February off of the calendar.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
February...pfeh.
Shortest month of the year, my ASS!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey, I finally get a birthday this year.
Don’t deprive men of that.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
just deprive the women of it! :P
they make such a big deal!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wow, that typo reads
really bad.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
oh snap, leap year b-day!
my birthday is in february EVERY year. and yet, i still can’t wait for the month to be over. Baseball first, birthdays second.
by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yuck.
I’m lucky to have an April birthday, so naturally that’s my favorite month of the year. Spring! Rejuvenation, rebirth, everything’s blooming, all that crap!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
October 1986, baby!
I screwed my dad out of playoff tickets!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
October '87 here
my dad, his brothers and their dad all are October – 1912, ’49, ’51 and ’55
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Could be worse.
My dad’s is Halloween.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I will be 6.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
and you already know more about baseball than aronofsky40
and the ’Pons
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Think you can make it until you're old enough to drink?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
.
Don’t you ever fuck with me and alcohol.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
2012 Amazin' Avenue Offseason Plan: 2nd place
by Ogre39666 on Jan 30, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
press control-f, or command-f if using a mac
type in aronofsky40 and read the post, then click next until you have read all the posts. That is where you went wrong
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The fact that you can't handle the truth
doesn’t make me wrong.
The fact that you've been shown to be wrong in numerous cases is what makes you wrong
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
what truth have you spoken?
that Howard’s contract sucks. This convo is well beyond that.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you Jack Nicholson
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!?!!??!?!?!?!?
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I do enjoy a refreshing mountain dew
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Holy shit...
aronofsky40 is precisely the type of Yankee fan that drives me up the fucking wall. The type that abandoned the Yankees in the 80’s then came back to them in 96’ when they won. Fucking frontrunning dicktarded cockramming bullshit fans that only want to root for a winner all the time and are never satisfied UNLESS they get a ring. Oh my god, I fucking hate that. LoL, and not making fun of your rivals/? That’s absolutely absurd. One of my greatest joys in LIFE is to see the Red Sox fail & fail hard and to see their miserable fans wallowing in self loathing, hate, and abject demoralizing misery. I don’t think anything will ever top the joy I felt last year when they collapsed in a month long spectacular spectacle of failure! So what if the Phillies are better than the Mets. All the money, the best pitching staff in the Majors, and in the end they still wound up in the same place: Ringless.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 1:19 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
now this is something we have established
well said, rec’d and goodnight cleveland
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Heh, thanks
I hate frontrunners so much. I have to put up with so many of them.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, no, the Phillies...
won a ring in 2008. So I think they’ve got one up on us this decade.
Then why not root for the Yankees?
There’s plenty of room on the wagon for fans like you! We have a ton more rings than the Phillies, get a lot of All-Stars, and have the ability to put a winning team on the field pretty much every single year. If that’s all that matters to you, then it’s absolutely illogical NOT to root for them! I mean what? Do you root for the Red Sox and Phillies just so it kiiiiiiiinda looks like you’re not a frontrunner? If rings are ALL that matter to you, then historically you’re rooting for two of the worst organizations in that department and not rooting for the most logical one, especially if you’re a NYer.
I mean seriously, you think the Mets have it bad? Try being a Pirates fan or a Royals fan. Try being a fan of a franchise that might have to move to a different city. Try being a Blue Jays or an Orioles fan and having to compete with TWO money juggernauts instead of one. Fans like the ones here on AA are what being a baseball fan is all about. Sticking with it through the worst of times and celebrating together with each other during the best of times, knowing that their patience paid off. Sure, it may take some time & effort, but it will happen and eventually it will be fans like this who will feel the most rewarded by it. But fans like you, who are only interested in rings & victory & all-stars will swoop in when the Mets do finally win, put your Blue & Orange hat back on and claim how big of a Mets fan you are even after rooting along with the same bunch of savages who despise you and your “beloved” franchise.
As a Yankees fan who has had to deal with this bullshit since the 90’s and as a baseball fan, fans like you make me fucking sick.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
hahaha
Fans like me make you sick? Calm down.
Yes! Fans like you make me fucking sick!
I’ve had to put up with fans like you since the late 90’s till now. Fans like you are the ones who claim victory with a team after abandoning them to root for another organization. Fans like you come back and take up seats from true fans like the ones here on AA who support & root for the team through thick & thin. And fans like you will just as quickly abandon the Mets again even after they do win if they don’t do it again after a while. If the Mets, through just sheer will, Major League-ish attitude, or just plain unexplainable luck actually did manage to compete this year, fans like you should have no part of it but will join in celebrating with all the other “Wilpon ass-lickers” this year.
So again, I ask you…..why not root for the Yankees? You mentioned above how we don’t have “rebuilding years” and how we’ve put a winning team on the field since 95’ (94’ as well if not for the strike), and all you seem to care about are ringz and victory. So why aren’t you rooting for the Yankees?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
um... because i'm a mets fan.
It’s not my fault they are currently garbage.
Illogical answer
Why root for the Phillies or Red Sox then over the Yankees? Will you abandon the Phillies or Red Sox when they go back to being garbage?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Perfectly logical answer
And you made a false claim. I’m not rooting for the phils / sox. I just enjoy watching them.
What's illogical
is watching a team that is complete garbage year in and year out.
And why do you enjoy watching them?
Because they have All-Stars? Because they win? Because they’re good organizations right now? Essentially you only watch organizations that do well. ‘Root’ for them or not, you still choose to support them with your time over your own team, which makes you a frontrunner and which again begs the question of why you don’t watch or root for the Yankees?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So again
Why don’t you watch or root for the Yankees? Because we do all three a whole lot better than the other two.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
so why do you (claim to) root for the Mets?
and when does that happen again? Like, when did you become a fan?
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Why not?
They meet all your criteria much more than the other two and will continue to do so for a long time to come.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't know
why don’t I like rum raisin ice cream? Question of taste.
But you've stated what tastes you prefer!
All-Stars! Rings! Good Organization! With the Yankees you get all three in the same box much like chocolate vanilla and strawberry ice cream, and unlike the other two teams you watch for those tastes, the Yankees offer the least chance that you’ll run out of either taste.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd for
dicktarded cockramming
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
wait someone rec'd my rec ?
WTF IS GOING ON ?.
WHO ATE MY FUCKING MUSHROOMS ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Another 55 new comments.
What the hell is wrong with us?
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 1:38 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
It's fun to comment?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
because of this

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Exactly!
<3 xkcd
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Holy Epic Thread, Batman.
I leave about 11pm, sign back on and this is still going.
AA Rules.
This entire thread needs to go into the green’d HOF.
by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 30, 2012 4:49 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I rec'd most posts
ya know, the logical ones. I want a greenvalance of non-aronofsky’s posts
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm kind of tempted to go back and rec every last post that he didn't write.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
do it
let it pour green!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm in
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'll help
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Someone has to.
I’m pretty sure I’ve rec’d every one of them.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
tambien
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ive Rec'd all I can rec cap'n, she cannot take any more!
Someone will need to clean up the few I couldn’t push over the top, but I’ve rec’d every post that I was able to.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jan 30, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Green'd
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 30, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
damn, but me too
that is commendable and, of course, rec’d-able. I started rec’d-ing pretty early on in the night last night, so hitting everyone’s happened over a longer time period for me. I can’t imagine doing all those rec’s at once though, I thought I was going to run out of rec’s at one point
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's official: we have a greenvalanche!!
Good work, everyone.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Holy Fuck, people!
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Jan 30, 2012 8:44 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
wait..what ?
teh pope got laid ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wow.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
See?
See what you did about the “snack-sized” part of the title? That was a challenge to the rest of us to make this thread as long as possible.
#blameMr.Met
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just like the 20 inning fiasco
First comment: “We’ve got to get to this guy early.”
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
by StorkFan on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Steve Schreiber, your "snack-sized" Applesauce turned into an epic conflagration of baseball nerd rage.
How do you feel?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Jan 30, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I...um...err...uhh...lobby?

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think you mean
Adam Rubin lobby
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, this is crazy.
I really thought this thread was dead when I went to sleep. It’s like watching Jason get back up after taking an axe to the skull.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 30, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
More awesome, though
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This thread is as good as any to talk about how great Joe Shlabotnik is
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
AA Gamethread Embiggening Record Holder- 458 posts (08/24/11)
3rd Place- 2011 AAOP Contest | 1st place- 2012 AAOP Contest
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 30, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions 3 recs

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