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2012 Mets Player Profile: Dillon Gee

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From the time he was drafted by the Mets in 2007 until his cup of coffee with the team at the end of the 2010 season, there wasn’t a ton of buzz surrounding Dillon Gee. Between 2007 and 2008, Gee pitched for Brooklyn, St. Lucie, and Binghamton, demonstrating an excellent ability to avoid walks at all three stops. Upon his promotion to Buffalo in 2009, however, Gee’s walks per nine jumped from 1.4 to 3.0, and his 4.10 ERA was considerably higher than it was in the lower levels of the system.

In 2010, he cut down on the walks and increased his strikeouts to a career high, but there still wasn’t a ton of excitement when he got his cup of coffee at the end of the season, partially because he’d put together a 4.96 ERA in Buffalo and partially because he wasn’t a pitcher with electric stuff – Gee’s average fastball doesn’t crack 90 mph. In five starts with the Mets near the end of the season, Gee generated some excitement with a 2.18 ERA, but his peripherals suggested that such production was entirely unsustainable. His 4.20 FIP in those outings was a much better indication of what might be expected from Gee in 2011.

Gee began the 2011 season in Buffalo, but he joined the Mets’ rotation in the middle of April thanks Chris Young’s season-ending injury. Through his first 13 appearances, 11 of which were starts, Gee pitched to the tune of a 2.86 ERA, but it still looked like he was in line for a return to planet earth. Sure enough, Gee struggled over the remainder of the season. By the end of the year, he wound up with a 4.43 ERA. On the bright side, Gee’s ability to pitch in the big leagues at the beginning of last season was no sure thing, and although he didn’t set the world on fire, he showed that he’s able to play at baseball’s highest level.

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Even with a healthy Johan Santana this year, Gee’s penciled in as a member of the Mets’ very thin starting rotation. Given his track record thus far with the Bisons and Mets, the smart money is on a 2012 season that looks a lot like his 2011 season. In a perfect world, Gee would begin the season in Buffalo and provide depth for the rotation, but the Mets just don’t have very much starting pitching right now. As a result, Gee should get another full season opportunity to prove his doubters wrong by showing some improvement.

G IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP LOB% GB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP WAR
2011 30 160.2 6.4 4.0 1.01 .270 71.5% 47.4% 11.1% 4.43 4.65 4.46 0.2
Career 35 193.2 6.1 4.0 0.93 .262 72.9% 47.4% 9.8% 4.04 4.57 4.55 0.5

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Not much to say really

0.2 WAR in 160 IP? This guy stunk.

by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Guy who didn't stunk:

Vance Worley. 130 IP, 3.01 ERA, 2.5 WAR.

Not bad for a rookie.

by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yes that's exactly what I said

your reading comprehension skills are excellent

(Sorry to all that I’m not taking my own advice. From now on, I swear.)

by BurleighGrimes on Jan 30, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if he stinks

I’m not trolling. All I said was that he stinks. You can’t have it both ways.

by aronofsky40 on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you would know

I mean after all you are pretty much AA’s Dillon Gee.

by graves9 on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gee is my least favorite Met besides for Bay

It is pretty damn tough to watch him pitch. I still laugh at some mongos comparing him to Rick Reed a couple months into last season,

by graves9 on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Gee is a perfectly fin 5th starter

earning the league minimum, there is no reason to complain about him. 5th starters are generally below replacement level (the average era for the guys who actually are in that bottom 1/5th of games started is something like 6.50). Gee is replacement level, and as long as we aren’t really competing we need guys like this.

by ackbar7 on Jan 30, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

he is not an all-star

we need 5 all-star pitchers, anything less and it’s boycott time!!!

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Never said that

I’m just saying he’s pretty brutal to watch pitch, he walks the ballpark and hits a ton of guys.

by graves9 on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

go read the sunday snack-sized applesauce if you missed it

I am joking around, and this joke will not die on this site. Plus, he is nowhere near 5 WAR

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, he is (sort of) an all-star

He did appear in the 2011 Taiwan All-Star Series after all.

by mttlg on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

did he have 5+ WAR over there?

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he had 5 IP

One run on six hits in five innings. I’m not sure what the stat exchange rate is in Taiwan.

by mttlg on Jan 30, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If Johan Were Still Johan

The Mets would have a pretty good rotation. At least above average.

Santana
Dickey
Niese
Pelfrey
Gee

On the other hand:

Dickey
Niese
Pelfrey
Gee
Hope for the Best

Not good.

by WT Economist on Jan 30, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

cloning dickey 4 times also works

We can also clone a few extra dickeys for long relief, setup, and closing. We would be unstoppable.

by jhMLB on Jan 30, 2012 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah, yes

The New York Dickeypolitans, my favorite squadron.

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Jan 30, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.

by StorkFan on Jan 30, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh the Mets were 6th in ERA in 2010

With a reduced Johan and a pre-good Niese. If we could get something out of Johan it would at least tide us over because there’s a chance we see Familia or Harvey this season.

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by piazza62 on Jan 30, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

who knows what we will get from Pelf or Gee

maybe Schwinden or McHugh become ready to take over for those guys. They provide decent value, but I am just sick of watching them pitch – more so Pelf, with his occasional tease

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by astromets on Jan 30, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I should say

I think Schwinden is probably the same as Gee, hard to tell with his Jekyl and Hyde performance last year 1st/2nd half, but he could be slightly better or worse, and is thus the definition of the AAA swingman imo

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Gee is totally useful

What else do you want from the guy?

Fangraphs fans have him projected to a 1.5 WAR this year, which sounds right.

I still think his changeup can get better, and down the stretch last year he really stopped throwing his curve. Was he experimenting? Did anyone get to see his last couple starts?

Anyway, called it in April ’10: http://fonzieforever.blogspot.com/2010/04/keep-eye-on-dillon-gee-sp.html

by Brian Mangan on Jan 31, 2012 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

More Gee love

He really improved his strikeout rate last year too … from 4.6 to 6.4.

He’s probably close to the pitcher that he was last season, but I’d say he’s probably closer to his first half (1.76 K/BB) than his second half (1.46 K/BB) in terms of talent.

Or what the author said.

by Brian Mangan on Jan 31, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

SSS from the 5 starts his rookie year

if you want to look at 2010 stats, look at his 165 k’s in 161.1 innings at AAA, and then the rather large, but expected, drop to 6.4 in 2011 in the bigs.

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!

by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

he gives decent value

and he was easy to root for a couple of seasons ago when the Mets were stinking, but he was looking better than what we had at AA. But watching him gets frustrating due to all those walks and hits he gives up, and because you wonder if he’ll get you into the 6th inning, about half the time last year, and you doubt he’ll give up less than 3 runs during that time. He is the definition of a 5th starter, would fit that role for many teams and gives decent value for that at the major league minimum, and I would take him over Pelfrey. Ignore aronofsky40’s take, he thinks Ike Davis sucks

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

The Mets could do a lot better than 0.2 WAR

by signing a real player like, for example, Edwin Jackson or Roy Oswal, and bumping this guy out.

by aronofsky40 on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

They clearly don't have the money.

What could the Mets possibly do TODAY to get out of this problem? I’ll never be an ass-licker, but there is simply nothing to be done about the Mets’ financial situation until the Wilpons are out, and that isn’t going to happen.

Astro Traveler

by BlackOps on Jan 31, 2012 4:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm optimistic that the Wilpons might get forced out

either by their own finances or by MLB ownership, eventually.

See? I’m optimistic about something!

by aronofsky40 on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Can you really chalk up every player that we haven't signed

To the fact that there are financial difficulties? Oswalt wants to stay on his farm and already turned down 10 mil from Detroit. Oswalt wants to stay near his ranch and could end up with the cards or royals

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by piazza62 on Jan 31, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Jesus, if they don't want to sign, it doesn't matter what kind of offer you make them.

How is this so difficult to comprehend?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Very, apparently

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He also might not be worth it

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I would have to say this offseason I didnt want the condo or the mansion. But even if the Mets wanted either they’re not going to get it. I’m sure aronofsky40 will just bitch about it all season though.

Astro Traveler

by BlackOps on Jan 31, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Forget This

We need more pitching. Already missed out on all the decent FA’s that were left. Jeff Francis on a minor league deal, we couldn’t even get him. How about we take a look at Edwin Jackson on a one year deal or a less expensive three year deal since his market has come way down.

by TomCarvel on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

Doesn't Jackson want a 3-year deal?

Besides, he’s looking at more $$ than we can offer him, even on a 1-year contract.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would he come here

when contenders are offering him deals?

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Jan 31, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

are we not a contender?

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't really like Gee

It’s nothing against him, really (well, it kind of is):

1) When he won, what, six games in a row or whatever it was, the media jumped all over him and were propping him up, when there really wasn’t too much to prop up. Not really his fault, but that gets old, and makes me dislike the player.

2) I got tickets last year for a game in June that Dickey was supposed to pitch. I didn’t calculate the off-day, or a rain-out, or something, and saw Gee instead. So, instead of getting to see Dickey strike out ten Athletics, I got to see Gee walk six.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

#2 is a sad sad day in the life

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Very

Took the day off from work, too.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at that game

I was busy this year so I only got to get to two games. One was Cappy’s 13K shutout which was amazing, and that Gee game, which was most certainly not. He was undefeated with a low ERA and I was looking forward to getting to see him, but he showed me.

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by piazza62 on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  


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