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Man, would I like to meet the ten idiots who were dumb enough to hand $20 million to the Wilpons.

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Hey Freddy, welcome to the other end of the table.

"Intelligence is not a genetic predisposition. Think stupid!!"

by Wright of passage on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Honestly,

the way this process is going, I think we’ll have flying cars before one of these shares is actually sold.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 31, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

This, please

Why won’t they just go away?!

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

People who would buy those shares have a personal worth of >1B, so 20m is pocket change.

For them, it wouldn’t be the money per se, but what benefits they can get from the Wilpons (not from the team or Mr. Met).

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by Michkin on Jan 31, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

We've already seen the benefits they get; it's pretty weak.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me put emphasis on "benefits from Wilpons".

I’m not talking about Mr. Met visits, business cards or box seats. And obviously pure speculation on my part that anything besides those exist (besides eternal thanks and gratitude).

In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
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by Michkin on Jan 31, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean as in future considerations?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

People who were “invited” to invest on the Mets are probably family members, close friends or business partners.
My sketch comedy would be something like this:

Wilpon: Invest $20m on the Mets and … you know … * wink wink *
Friend: Oh, I see, you mean * that thing *, yes, ok. I can probably hold on to my old Cessna for 3 more years.

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by Michkin on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, if I had $20 million dollars, I'd be on that in a heartbeat

It opens the door, if nothing else, and I’m sure bragging how you own (partially) a baseball team is awesome to be able to do.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Meh

If you’re ultra high net worth, doors are probably open enough already. Anyway, these guys (assuming they exist) are “aiders and abettors” — they’re enabling the Wilpons to hang on for at least a while longer. You’re better than that.

by Ownbey4Mex on Jan 31, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But they are essentially creditors,

since they have to be repaid at 3% interest annually at a pre-set date, so this could easily backfire on the Wilpons if revenues don’t improve.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

But high yield bonds are paying, what, 8%?

If you want to treat these investments as debt, and think of yourself as a “creditor”, why not just buy a junk bond? If you want to treat these investments as equity, they are, as a certain owner would say, “shitty.” You’ve got no control and no free cash. And if you want to buy a ballclub, why, by making this investment, decrease the likehood that the Mets will be put up for sale? I don’t know what the extras are, but wow, assuming there is no right of first refusal (express or implied), this seems like a pretty dumb move for an investor to make.

by Ownbey4Mex on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Really, bonds pay that much?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

My kingdom for an edit button

I think it’s been expressly stated that these shares don’t come with right of first refusal, so there’s no chance to increase your share. And if it pays so much less than other investment opportunities, then the Wilpons are basically selling to friends, family, and people who just want bragging rights.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 31, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Fixed:

And if it pays so much less than other investment opportunities, then the Wilpons are basically selling to friends, family, and people who just want bragging rights idiots.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 31, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If I have 20mm to spend on crap like this

I don’t care if I’m an idiot, because things are going awfully well for me. :)

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by piazza62 on Jan 31, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

Shares of baseball teams aren’t solid at high volume rapidity like the stock market. It’s not every day that a team, any team, is putting parts up for sale.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Just about nothing is as liquid as publicly traded securities -- And why would you want to buy useless parts?

No control, no cash, trivial return, card that says “owner”. Ye gods, let’s not pretend these investors are buying a baseball team. And baseball teams do come on the market — not every day, sure, but Dodgers, Rangers, Astros. Real ownership stakes (majority or meaningful minority interests) do become available.

I implore you, rational investors ten idiots, think twice about what you’re doing.

by Ownbey4Mex on Jan 31, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly- it is not every day that baseball teams are on the market

If one wants to buy one, with the intent of having meaningful control, they need to start somewhere. Walter O’Malley came to own the Dodgers by slowly, over the course of , from 1944 to 1950, buying out other small interest shares of the team from fellow investor-owners, until he was able to buy a large chunk and become principle owner.

Not that any potential investor-owners are planning on doing that necessarily. But, again, if you had the kind of disposable income where $20 million dollars is something you can drop cash on, who wouldn’t want to buy a baseball team!?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

20mm is nothing compared to what it would cost to buy the team in full, and it would be good to start on the inside if a sale comes about.

I don’t think the investors are worried about enabling terrible owners, especially if they are only presently terrible because of lack of funds.

Seeing peoples angst towards the Wilpons, I might buy a share or two because of that, just to piss people off.

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by piazza62 on Feb 1, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

but it's the Mets

owning them, or part owning them, would kick so much ass

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds like a terrible deal to me.

I mean sure, you’d get to go to games in luxury boxes and get a parking spot, business card, meet Mr. Met, network with big shots, etc. But I think you could do all of that for a hell of a lot cheaper than $20 million. Not to mention the fact that you gain no control whatsoever over any decisions with the team and that the Wilpons “manage” their money like Mo Vaughn “manages” his weight.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jan 31, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had $20 million dollars to waste, all of that would be the least of my worries, I am sure

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take full advantage of Mr Met

I would bring him with me everywhere

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by astromets on Jan 31, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Steve is a commodity of AA

Not the actual ball club so you’d probably wanna clear that with signore Simon.

"Intelligence is not a genetic predisposition. Think stupid!!"

by Wright of passage on Feb 1, 2012 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

And with Steve.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, this.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Feb 1, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

he is mistermet

not Mr Met. Freaks

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by astromets on Feb 1, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm..

Awkward.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OK, I'll admit it......

I am one of the 10 idiots

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Do you need a waitress in that owner's suite?

I'd be willing to apply for the position if I could watch the game from those luxury boxes

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

oh good....

you're in

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Feb 1, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent!

I can’t wait until I go to a game and see “Owner Fxcarden’s Rant of the Game” up on the video boards in between innings. Sounds like a perfect replacement for Professor Reyes.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Jan 31, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

that would be funny as shit.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Feb 1, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that legal?

That’s like paying a credit card bill with a different credit card.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 1:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

thats legal (albeit stupid since they charge transfer fees)

this is like paying off a credit card with another credit card, when you own the entire Visa empire.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 1, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

This is exactly the sort of sound financial planning I've come to expect from the Wilpons.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 1, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

can they call this embezzelment?

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 1, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 1, 2012 5:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Embezzlement is the act of dishonestly appropriating or secreting assets by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted (Wikipedia).

Mind you, I’m no lawyer, so…

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 1, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

What?!

That’s horseshit!

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Feb 1, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No, Sterling Equities is loaning them some money.

Because we’re not rich, we don’t see the difference.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 2, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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