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More Songs About Groundballs and Food Applesauce: Correlation, Cooperstown, and Aaron Cook All Get Their Moment in the Sun


Over at the Beyond the Boxscore, our own Bill Petti takes a look at what starting pitching metrics correlate best year to year. No big surprises here, though it is interesting to see how much less correlation walks have year to year compared to strikeouts.

Groundball percentage correlates pretty well from year to year, and if you want a groundball pitcher, there are a couple still available in free agency. On a potential 86-90 win Mets team, Paul Maholm would be a nice fit at the back of the rotation. Sadly, the 2012 Mets are not that Mets team.

One groundball pitcher who is off the market is Aaron Cook, who signed with the Red Sox last night. He's likely just rotation depth with some upside, but rotation depth was certainly something the Sox were lacking last season.


The Brewers should find out before Spring Training whether or not Ryan Braun will be suspended for his positive PED test. This whole thing has been so bungled from the start, but it has led to one of my favorite anonymous sources ever, "People familiar with the history of the Major League Baseball drug testing program and arbitration process." Way to narrow it down for us.

Now you might think that having the star player on the team his daughter owns he used to own (grantland'd) test positive for PEDs would be a bit of a stain on Mr. Selig. And that might be so, but don't expect him to retire anytime soon. After all, it's not like he retired after any of the other stupid things his regime screwed up. Also, if he retires, what will the Wilpons do without a friend in the commissioner's office? They might have to do something drastic, like sell the team.

As long as we are talking steroids (or herpes medication, or whatever), Bob Harkins of Hardball Talk wonders if the steroid cloud over Mark McGwire will ever fade enough for the slugger to get into the Hall of Fame. I think McGwire suffers from the perception that he is somehow a borderline player without steroids, which might actually be true, depending on what your favorite Wins Above Replacement metric is and how much you want to weight elite seasons. But all those people saying he was a one dimensional slugger have had no problem putting in every other one dimensional slugger into the Hall of Fame, so I don't know.

We will officially find out that McGwire is not in at 3 PM today as the 2012 Hall of Fame class is officially announced. Barry Larkin seems to be a safe bet to gain induction. Everyone else, not so much. So get ready for ground zero of Hall of Fame wankery next year with a stellar 2013 class loaded with plenty of opportunities for sportswriter proselytizing.

Staying in Cooperstown for a minute, Chris Jaffe looks at Hall of Famers who played the minimum ten MLB seasons.

Finally, Wendy Thurm at Baseball Nation examines how the second wild card might be affecting offseason spending by the big market AL clubs. I don't disagree that it's an influence or that the playoffs aren't a crapshoot, but the Yankees still might want an actual Game 2 starter that isn't Ivan Nova, second wild card or not.

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Wait, what?

Selig isn’t retiring now? On the premise of ‘the pretext being to see the Mets through their troubles’?

Hey Bud...with help like yours, we're sure to reach the promised land sooner rather than later

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

Dang:

‘rather than later’ (to finish up).

by MetsFan4Decades on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

who doesn't look forward to HoF wankery?

if it weren’t for the glorious wankery i would scarcely be aware of it’s existence.

by the by, i went through the compilation of early release ballots, here is by far the stupidest ballot in history (i’m guessing).

mattingly and no one else. for serious.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jan 9, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

The comments are even stupider than the ballot.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 9, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Roids

Juicets shouldnt get in period. its a slap in the face to those who got to cooperstown on their talent alone

ESPN, Mike Francesa, NY Post, NY Daily News, Fox Sports = Propaganda

Feel free to add me on Twitter;
https://twitter.com/#!/BlueChill1123

by BlueChill on Jan 9, 2012 11:50 AM EST via Android app reply actions   1 recs

yes pure talent, pure talent mixed with

amphetamines, cocaine, ball-doctoring, and all the other morally questionable things players did before they could get their hands on steroids.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 9, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

yes, all those players who got in on talent alone

and maybe some spit balls, methamphetamines and got to look better by comparison when more talented black players weren’t allowed to compete. plus we know for sure that none of those players in the past would have taken steroids if they were available in their era. because as relentless competitors looking for ever edge they could find, they would obviously pass on something that had limited negative side affects and wasn’t being tested for, but possibly made them better and helped their team win baseball games.

i agree 100% that its as simple an issue as just not voting for all the players who juiced. especially since we know now for sure exactly who juiced and that our perfect information won’t ever change. so the decision is easy and any voters who deviates from this maxim is wrong.

its good to come to agreements on these types of things. the people have spoken.

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Which are who exactly?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.

The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015

by Syler on Jan 9, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

jeff kent

explanation to his talent going up post mets tenure.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Joe McEwing

And I have suspicions about Rey Ordonez, he had that crazy season where he hit a home run.

Actually now I think about it, Rey Ordonez probably did roids, just saying, no human could fly like this without juicing!

__________________________________________________________________
Really good kid.A very good player.Not a superstar. #BlameWilponz. Never Forget

by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Rey Ordonez was planking before it was cool

only he does it to the extreme

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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