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Barry is the only player elected on the writer's ballot, he'll join Ron Santo who was selected by the veteran's committee in being inducted into Cooperstown this summer.

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Right, sure, Jeff Bagwell is not a HOF'er

Every time I think the mainstream sportswriters can’t get any more clueless, they keep lowering the bar.

by Ownbey4Mex on Jan 9, 2012 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

How does this bode for big mike?

Murray Chass has seen his back acne after all.

Anyone brave enough to read what Murray voted?

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 10, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he still have a vote?

He’s not employed by anyone to write about baseball so I wouldn’t think so.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone ever lose their vote?

Lots of guys don’t write about baseball anymore and still get to vote.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Form Wikipedia:
Baseball Writers Association of America
[…]
List of current members
[…]
Murray Chass, New York Times (non-voting member)

Yay!

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 11, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Vinny Castilla got 6 votes

he was obviously better than John Olerud

On another note, Bagwell and Tim Raines are inching closer to where they need to be. I mean, one shouldn’t need sabemetricians making careful arguments about why JEFF FREAKIN’ BAGWELL is a hall of famer, but I’m confident he and Raines will get the nod soon.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Jan 9, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Mueller is a guy i have suspected of juicing in the latter days of his career when he went to Boston.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 10, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF

I can’t tell if serious or not, but shit like this just perpetuates the unsuspected suspected steroid use.

It’s pretty easy: I’ve suspected EVERY player did steroids. Win-win, nobody gets singled out and we still get to gossip!

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by BlackOps on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuckin' a

Jack Morris is going to get in isn’t he…

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by BlackOps on Jan 9, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

It was his 13th year on the ballot

He’ll share ballots with Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, Curt Schilling and Roger Clemens. I don’t see it happening.

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by piazza62 on Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarcasm, I hope?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Whoops

Reply fail

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Next year's class should be big

With the newcomers of Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, Biggio, and Piazza, plus the eventual Morris induction and maybe outside chance of Bagwell being inducted, it would be nice to think that we are looking at least five guys inducted next year.

But, since MSM rules apply here, I believe only Piazza and Morris will be voted in, with Bagwell knocking on the doorstep with Biggio (Robbie Alomar “not a first ballot hall of famer” rule applies here). On the plus side, both Bagwell and Biggio will get in the following year, which would be nice for Astros fans. I will also predict that between Bonds, Clemens and Sosa, only one will get 50% or more next year.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Jan 9, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

I'm afraid Piazza is going to have to wait a while

The whole ridiculous “guilty until proven innocent” thing is going to apply to him as it did Bagwell. Murray Chass will be wheeled out of the nursing home to bitch about Piazza’s back acne, and hysteria will reign.

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by Greenpoint Ian on Jan 9, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to think that it hit Bagwell so hard was because he was a first baseman as well as the "guilty until proven innocent" thing.

I would also like to believe that the offensive numbers that Piazza as a catcher will heavily outweigh “guilty until proven innocent” thing. Besides, the back acne can be so easily debunked by any sportswriter who had back acne as a kid and never touched steroids. But, I also live in a fantasy world when it comes to the HOF so take whatever grain of salt you want with my statements.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Jan 9, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there is a 0% chance Piazza

Isn’t elected in the first ballot.

His name has never heavily been dragged through the mud, been the posterboy of steroids or anything, and has so many records at his position.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nor was he mentioned in the Mitchell report or in any of the books written by roiders.

Along with this is the fact that he seemed to have a natural decline in his numbers and no huge spike years Ala Paully Ballgame.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 10, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarcasm

You know just as well as I all those steroids users/false allegation guys are gonna have hard times. A big class, I don’t know.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I should have worded it as "I wish it was a big class"

Although the dumbest thing that HOF voters do by far is the first-ballot HOFer thing. Like that means something. If you think a guy belongs in the Hall, just vote him in. Period. It’s not like the denote “first-ballot HOFer” on their plaque. If Biggio belongs there, then get him there as soon as possible.

At least with the steroids users/false allegations guys, there is some form of logic there. I may not agree with it, but they have their reasons for it. The first-ballot HOFer thing makes zero sense.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't you know?

They are remaking all the plaques, removing the career achievements to include what ballot they got elected on. After all, that’s what really matters.

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by Ogre39666 on Jan 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

How silly of me

This is the writers’ hall of fame. How could I be so naive?

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Jan 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

And if the writers don't stop being sanctimonious about steroids,

the ballots are going to be crazy filled in a few years. Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, and Sosa, plus Bagwell, Raines, Maddux, Glavine, Trammell, Martinez, etc? We might actually see a few years where writers don’t have enough votes.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 9, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy for Larkin

I grew up watching him, this is nice to see.

But how Bagwell didn’t get in…just ridiculous.

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by santana9237 on Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Congrats to Barry Larkin

and I’m sure Bagwell will make it soon

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 9, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

congrats to Larkin, he was a shoo-in

and Bagwell better make it or the HOF is officially dead to me

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

oh, he will

no worries

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jan 10, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i always worry when sportswriters are involved

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 10, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont share your optimism.

I think there is a general boycott of known AND suspected users.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Jan 10, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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