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My dirty little secret: I was once a Yankees fan

Full disclosure: Yes, I also posted this on one of my sites. No, you don't need to know or care where that is. This is just a fluff piece to fill space before Spring Training.

It's common to see someone identify as a "lifelong Mets fan," but what does that really mean? Were you born wearing orange and blue face paint? Were your first words "Let's go Mets?" Did you learn to walk just so you could participate in a "kids run the bases" event at Shea? I could see this being true in Boston, where indoctrination begins in the womb, but New York has too many sports options for that to be practical. My blessing and my curse is being able to remember what and how I thought as a child, which means I can never call myself a "lifelong" anything (genetics aside). When it comes to the Mets, I can remember a time before I had developed an opinion. I can remember when I chose to be a Mets fan. And I can remember the first team I chose to be a fan of - the New York Yankees.

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The year was 1984. Orwellian nightmares had failed to come true. The Los Angeles Olympics were the major television sports spectacle of the year. Reagan had won re-election. And, on Christmas morning, I got my very first baseball cards. Well, an uncut sheet of them at least. To be exact, my brother and I both received uncut sheets of 1984 Topps cards for Christmas. Being older, he already had some cards, mostly a mix of baseball and basketball cards. Being younger, I was envious. Now, each with our own sheet of cards, we couldn't leave things at that. Oh no, we needed to get down to business and do some trading. But first, out came the scissors...

These days, I would cringe at the sight of cutting tools coming into contact with sports collectibles. While an uncut sheet sounds like a rare commodity these days, these were actually fairly common and quite worthless, though roughly cutting them up into individual cards certainly took away any value they might have had. We were young and didn't know better, so we cut away gleefully. Ah, the simple joy of destruction.

With irregularly shaped cards in hand, we set about the process of trading. Clearly, we would like to get more cards of our favorite team. Our family was a Mets household, so that was what my brother was after. As for me, I wasn't established as a fan of any team, so I was hardly in a position to challenge my brother for rights to Met fandom. I took the path of least resistance and aligned myself with that other New York team.

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Above: The spoiled spoils of my brief fling with the Yankees

This worked out quite well in the short term. I could trade my Mets cards away and get Yankees cards in return. I even got my very own Yankees replica helmet and some Yankees player posters from the newspaper. My Yankees collection was starting to come together, from cards to other assorted memorabilia. But something was missing.

It's not like picking a different team would ostracize me from my family. My parents were always supportive of my decisions, no matter what my reasons were. Hell, they even accepted my brother when he came out as a Jets fan. I tried liking the Yankees, but it felt empty. The logo with the top hat was nice enough, but the colors just did nothing for me. What color was that even supposed to be, black or a very dark purple? This wasn't working, it just wasn't who I was. I had made a mistake.

It wasn't too late to fix this problem. Sometime in 1985, I resolved to leave all things Yankee behind and fully embrace the Mets. This took symbolic form when one of my brother's friends got a hold of some throwing stars and they asked to borrow my Yankees helmet (well, "asked" isn't quite the right word...). You know how those helmets have a warning molded into them telling you not to use them as a protective device? They were nice enough to collect most of the pieces and return them to me. I didn't care because the Yankees meant nothing to me anymore. It was for the best.

My other mistake was not advertising switching sides. By this point, my parents had gotten used to me being a Yankees fan. Being such supportive parents, they bought me a replacement Yankees helmet when they saw one that summer at the Astrodome. When they presented it to me, I was less than thrilled. I had finally gotten rid of that thing and here it was back again. Why? Was this my punishment for turning my back on the Yankees? Would they ever let me leave?

Luckily, nobody was out to get me. With that misunderstanding behind us, it was Mets all the way from that point on. I would go on to see the Mets play at the Astrodome the next summer just a few days after seeing Darryl Strawberry win the Home Run Derby. Well, I'm not sure I actually saw any of that considering how much time I spent exploring the Astrodome, but I did get a nice Mets pennant while I was there. That has to count for something...

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Above: Anybody have any whitening tips?

Today, nothing remains from my days as a Yankees fan except for those cards and a Yankees logo button that's buried in a box somewhere. The Mets however have reached out into all aspects of my collecting world - cards, patches, pins, books, hats, action figures, and more. If it can be collected, there's a Mets version out there somewhere just waiting for me. Sometimes, being a Mets fan calls the idea of free will into question.

Next: Meeting the Mets: Autographs in the age of small-town card shows

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You were never in a committed relationship with them

You were just experimenting. It’s all good, it’s all cool.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 13, 2012 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

I'll admit that in my foolish youth I didn't hate the Yankees.

Back when they had John Wetteland and Charlie Hayes and before I was able to conceptualize the soullessness of their machine.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
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by Ogre39666 on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

It's funny, I can remember just how I thought as a youngster too

But I have no recollection of ever becoming a mets fan. My first game I went too was probably in 1992 or 1993, as a two or three year old. It was never a choice for me, my dad and his brothers were all instant met fans, and my grandfather and his father before him embraced the blue and orange early on, it’s just the way things were for me.

I do know one thing: given the time period I grew up, becoming baseball conscious as the Yankees got good and the Mets got awful, if given the choice, I definitely would’ve chosen the Mets. I never was the type of kid to flock to something just because it was popular. As the yankee dynasty started, I was the kid who wore the blue number 9 Mets shirt to elementary school.

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand."
-Wes Westrum
"I'm a huge advocate of pitching"
-Tom Seaver

by piazza62 on Feb 13, 2012 8:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

My dark secret, when I was very very young (I"m talking 5-6 years old), I used to follow the Braves, because the only TV channel we had that carried baseball regularly was TBS

However once we got MSG (before SNY joined the party), I discovered the Mets and never looked back.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

GTFO.

No, just kidding. I actually know a few people who have made the fandom switch from Yankees to Mets or Mets to Yankees at some point for whatever reason. Usually not even bandwagony reasons either. I don’t really understand it, but to each his own.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Feb 13, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

This is eerily reminiscent of my beginnings

Right down to the year and not advertising my change of loyalties. The first game I remember watching was Dwight Gooden’s debut against the Astros, and I was mad because I wanted my dad to put the Yankees game on. For at least the first half of the season I was a Yankees fan, and didn’t start rooting for the Mets until mid-1984. Then I was a fan of both teams for a while – even wearing a Yankees jacket to the division clincher in 1986 – before abandoning the Yanks when they went to MSG.

by dcmetsfan on Feb 13, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

My Family Were Yankee Fans in Yonkers

But by the late 1970s, Steinbrenner had gotten to be too much, so I started rooting for the Mets. I started rooting for “the team of the people” around 1980 or so.

by WT Economist on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

This author and maybe many of you

must be quite a bit younger than me.

There was no thought to ever being anything other than a Met fan for me. I grew up with a Dad who loved the Brooklyn Dodgers and hated when they moved West. He spent the next several years rooting against the Yankees, still loving the Dodgers. But technology being what it wasn’t back in the late 50s/early 60s trying to keep up with your team 3000 miles away was not the same.

Enter the 1962 NY Mets. Dad was a fan from day one. Some of my earliest memories are seeing either a Met game he was cheering for or a Yankee game he was cheering against on the black and white TV in the living room.

I was old enough to start following the Mets day to day in ’68. Come ’69 and that miracle season I was still young enough to believe it was just that easy. Reality set in but my love for all things NY Mets was deeply engrained by then.

If I could follow this team through some of the most awful rosters you could never hope to see in the late 70s/early 80s – and the worst team money could buy in the 90s, it’s a sure bet I’m not going anywhere now.

Still waiting for another world championship. Just hope I’m alive long enough to experience that again…..

by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Not so much in the grand scheme of things

What’s a decade or two really count for anyway? I’d imagine a lot of us have parents who were fans of the Brooklyn Dodgers, myself included. Most of the players and a lot of the bloggers are younger still. Think of the fans who wonder if they’ll ever see one championship in their lifetime. And just wait until a story about scouring the box scores in the newspaper every day is met with nothing but blank stares and “What’s a ‘news-paper?’”

As for being a young fan in a championship season and having to come to terms with reality afterward, imagine what kids in Boston have in store for them. They’ve grown up with all four major sports teams winning championships left and right, with the biggest disappointments being the Red Sox missing the playoffs on the last day of the regular season and the Patriots losing the Super Bowl (twice) (to a New York team). It wasn’t long ago that the Patriots were the biggest joke in the NFL and the Red Sox were due to win the World Series a few days after hell froze over.

Who knows what could happen in another decade? A decade ago, we were wondering if Roberto Alomar and Mo Vaughn would make up for missing out on big-name free agents and send the Mets to the playoffs for the third time in four years (spoiler: nope). What we got were a nosedive, a playoff run that fell short, two late-season collapses, and another nosedive in the first decade of the team’s existence without a World Series appearance. Next week is a new decade and anything could happen.

by mttlg on Feb 14, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

'What's a news-paper?'

LOL…now you’re just making me feel old.

Kind of like when I found myself explaining to someone how a rotary phone worked.

I’ve got 6 nieces/nephews – 2 of which are Yankee fans and 4 Philly fans. They are incredulous that I’m a Met fan. Keep saying: ‘why would you waste your time? They stink’.

I just keep coming back with – ‘yeah, you’re too young to remember when the Yankees stunk’. And they look at me with a blank stare. The ones that are Philly fans? I just accuse them of being band wagon fans – hahahaha.

by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post.

Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

this means more to us than you may think...
Full disclosure: Yes, I also posted this on one of my sites. No, you don’t need to know or care where that is. This is just a fluff piece to fill space before Spring Training.

Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails." —William Arthur Ward

by SuperSantana on Feb 14, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Oh, believe me, I know

I’ve seen the fallout of people linking to their own sites, especially when they post things from months or years ago here (this piece was just a few minutes old, so that part shouldn’t be an issue). I certainly didn’t want to be accused of undisclosed shameless self-promotion (all of my shameless self-promotion is prefaced by those exact words to avoid confusion). Of course, not mentioning that this isn’t an Amazin’ Avenue exclusive wouldn’t be good either, hence the compromise.

by mttlg on Feb 15, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too

It’s kind of a drag to be so devoted today without a personal connection to the team’s history, but obviously preferable to the futile struggle of defending the alternative, remaining a Yankees fan. It’s not really a choice anyway…you just kind of drift to the guys you like. I had competing feelings in the early 2000’s but when A-Rod showed up it was over.
That said, virtually all my childhood MLB memories are from Yankee Stadium between roughly 86-94, and they’re still awesome. Hearing Rizzuto do color for such an awful team in those years was pretty great, rivaling present-day Keith for overall hilarity and WTF moments.

by xenusf on Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

I was a yankees fan too when I was younger

My Father is from New York and grew up a die-hard Yankee fan, so naturally I was brought up to like the yankees. However, I was born and lived in Miami, FL, so while I liked the yankees, I would always end up watching Marlins games. For a period of time, I was keeping up with them equally. eventually I just decided to leave the Yankees behind and fully embrace the Marlins. I was probably 13, or roughly 5 years ago, when this change occurred full-time.

I think everyone gets a pass on their youth as they are trying to pick their team.

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by Gatorfan4life on Feb 18, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome, Sam.

self promotion aside ( I don’t care but others will ) – that was a nice write-up, and you hit the nail on the head with things like “The Yankees are an anomaly”.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Feb 19, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, fx

And I understand where you and (and others) are coming from in terms of self-promotion.

by Sam Maxwell on Feb 20, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So it's all your fault, huh?

I will happily #blamesammaxwell for the failed dynasty.
Really though, that was a good read.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Feb 19, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

nah its always #blameBeltran, dontcha know?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Feb 19, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran is Spanish for Sam Maxwell

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally understand where you're coming from with this

Well except for 04’, cause both baseball fan & Yankees fan in me always wants the Red Sox to lose! However, there can definitely be an emotional detachment while rooting for the Yankees. One of the best scenes in Seinfeld that can illustrate how it is to be a Yankees fan is when Elaine tells Jerry “You know, one of these days…….something bad is going to happen to you! …..IT HAS TO!” to which Jerry responds, “No, I’m gonna be just fine!” because that’s really how it feels at times, at least to me. I can totally understand others wanting to get out, especially as baseball fans.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 21, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to follow both the Mets and Yankees

My dad is a Yankees fan, and he took me to both Mets and Yankees games as a kid, so I grew up in the early 90s liking both teams and I considered myself a Mets fan first, Yankees fan second. The 2000 series kind of killed that for me, though.

by psiogen on Feb 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

I was, too!

Now it’s just Rays and Mets for me! Thank goodness I saw the light!

Cherington has taken off his pants and he’s shitting all over my hopes for 2012
by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST

by SandalsNoPants on Feb 25, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

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