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2012 Mets Player Profile: Mike Pelfrey

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Once upon a time, Mike Pelfrey was considered the Mets’ top prospect. In 2005, the Mets took Pelfrey with the ninth overall pick in the amateur draft, but he didn’t make his professional debut until 2006. In his first year as a professional, Pelfrey pitched for nearly every team in the organization, beginning the year in St. Lucie before playing for Binghamton, Norfolk, and eventually the Mets. In the minors, Pelfrey was mostly outstanding, totaling 10.2 K/9, 3.1 BB/9, and a 2.43 ERA. His cup of coffee with the Mets consisted of four below-average starts, but that wasn’t considered the end of the world at the time. The following year, Pelfrey split his time between AAA and the Mets, pitching to a decent ERA in the minors despite a huge drop in strikeouts and once again putting up below-average numbers with the Mets.

Pelfrey’s first full season with the Mets came in 2008, and compared to his previous stints with the team, it went remarkably well. Over 200.2 innings spanning 32 starts, Pelfrey posted a 3.96 FIP and 4.45 xFIP, even though he struck out less than five-per-nine. In the process, Pelfrey once again got hopes up about his potential performance, but the results in 2009 didn’t match the expectations.

Not much of what Pelfrey was doing on the mound changed – his 4.47 xFIP was virtually identical to his previous season – but his 5.03 ERA wasn’t very pretty. In 2010, the results went back in the other direction, as plenty of Mets fans were calling him the team’s second ace through the first half of the season. Despite a drop-off in the second half of the year, Pelfrey’s 3.66 ERA on the season looked like a step forward. His xFIP, of course, wound up at 4.31, just a shade better than each of the previous two seasons. The rule of thumb was established as follows:

  • If Pelfrey’s having an above-average year, he’s not as good as he looks.
  • If Pelfrey’s having a below-average year, he’s not as bad as he looks.

Star-divide

And then Pelfrey had a 2011 season that looked a lot like his past few seasons, but the results were worse. His 4.74 ERA looked like a step in the wrong direction, but not much really changed. His 4.55 xFIP was once again very, very similar to what he had done in the past. Mike Pelfrey is a perfect example of Eno Sarris’ point over at Fangraphs that "seasons are also arbitrary endpoints."

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As for the upcoming season, Pelfrey’s certainly not exciting, but he should once again be a serviceable member of the rotation. It appears that pitching – especially starting pitching – will be the Mets’ biggest flaw this year, but if Pelfrey were tucked away behind four excellent pitchers, he might not look so bad. If things go his way, the results could look pretty good like they did in 2008 and 2010, and if they don’t, they’ll probably look like 2009 and 2011.

G IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP LOB% GB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP WAR
2011 34 193.2 4.9 3.0 1.0 .301 68.9% 45.6% 9.1% 4.74 4.47 4.55 0.7
Career 150 876.2 5.1 3.2 0.7 .306 70.6% 48.5% 7.7% 4.40 4.24 4.52 8.6

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The only way Pelfrey has a decent year is if he gets lucky with his HR rate again

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.

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by Syler on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Or doesn't get unlucky.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 14, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Having a league average HR rate is not unlucky

Unless you’re an extreme GB pitcher, having a HR rate much better than the league average is lucky. He’s not Matt Cain who has a track record of low HR rates over many years. He’s had it twice in his career.

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by Syler on Feb 15, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

And he's only had HR rates above .85 twice.

His career average is .72. His good years are better then his bad years are bad, but .53 isn’t any more unusual than .98 is for him.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 15, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

One of my worst nightmares is that Harvey becomes Pelf.

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by Michkin on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Bite your tongue!

You always root for laundry. Of course, you'd like to have good players in that laundry as well.

by MetsCity on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's my question:

Is the best-case scenario with Pelfrey now is for him to be above-average for the first half of the year and then trade him to another team before the “magic” wears off? Does anyone have better realistic scenario for him?

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by meigs1414 on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

adjustments

Can any of the ping-pong nature of his ERA be attributed to adjustments? He has a bad year, and he tweaks some stuff. It’s enough to sorta keep guys a little bit more off balance and result in a little bit more soft contact and balls staying in the park. they catch up and hes back to normal, looking to make adjustments.

Still wish we’d gotten rid of Warthen though.

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by Ceetar on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

when did he drop the curveball/add it back/drop it again?

i know he’s toyed with it back and forth quite a bit

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by KeithsMoustache on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t see it. He has to provide something more than just pitching a lot, he has no additional value.

I wrote about it here: http://www.metsrospectus.com/2011/12/why-mets-should-non-tender-mike-pelfrey.html

by metsrospectus on Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

With Pelfrey it comes down to one thing . . .

Missed bats. If he can get swinging misses, he can be good. If he can’t its a long day. Rarely are more than two innings of any of his starts needed to make the assessment.

by goquakers on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

I couldn't agree more.

He has no ‘out’ pitch that he can go to with regularity to sit batters down.

He has had the good fortune of pitching beside some great players in Santana and Pedro and should have improved his craft just from watching and listening to them, and i dont think he has.

His attitude also seems ‘weak’ at times. When he is coasting he appears on top of the opposition but when he struggles he is awful.

All this said, how do we replace him? On the open market he would be worth $10m roughly and the Mets aint ponying that up. And there is that outside hope that he does improve, even if only slightly and gives us a reasonably good season.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 14, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This is it

He does not miss bats. Low K numbers reflect this inability. The only time I remember when he looked “good” was when he had his splitter working and he was getting swings and misses and weak contact.

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by brooklynberger on Feb 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He just needs to keep the HRs down

He’s fine if he can do that. He’s basically a more durable, less disastrous Jason Marquis but I’m sure someone can find some upside inside of him. If similarly bad pitchers like Wade Davis have some value on the open market, I’m sure we can get something back for him at the deadline if he starts off well enough. Even if no one offers anything good, he’s a dependable arm who can at least give us semi-palatable innings (if you don’t watch them closely enough) for the rest of the season.

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by piazza62 on Feb 14, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

if pelfs licks are high

the game will make me cry

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Feb 14, 2012 6:01 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Yup

He sure had some sub-par defense behind him, boosting up his ERA from where it should have been, in the mid-4.00s.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 14, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

As was said, if he were behind three or four other solid starters, Mike Pelfrey would be a fine pitcher

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't say fine.

But passable? Sure.

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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 14, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Intriguing semantics

I suddenly realised that fine has two quite distinct meanings. Saying “he is a fine pitcher” implies he is very good, but saying “he’ll be fine” particularly with the right tone of voice would precisely mean he’ll be passable. Sorry, that might be of interest only to me!

by deadspy3 on Feb 15, 2012 4:50 AM EST up reply actions  

"And then Pelfrey had a 2011 season that looked a lot like his past few seasons"

SwStrk%
2010 6.0
2009 5.8
2011 5.5

Basically, if Pelfrey is putting up a flukey good year, the Mets should trade him at the deadline. That SwStrk% was third lowest in the majors last year and his GB% was the lowest of his career (45.7%). These are red flags that do not augur well for his future.

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by TWilliAM on Feb 14, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

There's always a chance, but the name "Cliff Lee"

is just far and away more badass than “Mike Pelfrey”, I just don’t see it happening. Wouldn’t that be something, though. For what it’s worth, I’d say it’s more likely than Jeff Francouer tapping into his own potential.

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by piazza62 on Feb 14, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

frenchy success is all do

to the smile

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Feb 15, 2012 10:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

On the facebook page

Someone tried to argue that they should get three pitchers who cost a million each to take Pelf’s spot in the rotation. Ugh.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 14, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

At the end of the day

Mike Pelfrey is a league average pitcher.
The fact that he is the third best pitcher on the team is a reflection on the team, not on him.

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