The Box Of Chocolates Strikes Again Applesauce: Spring Training Fluff Pieces Galore, Mets Alumni Bobbleheads Announced, Sandy Speaks With Francesa
Meet the Mets
That's right, everybody. Spring Training doesn't officially begin for another week but the pieces about players working in PSL are beginning to roll in. To start off, Daniel Murphy working on his defense at second base with Tim Teufel. Meanwhile, Johan Santana is preparing for his first test of the offseason: he will throw a light bullpen session off a mound on Friday.
Sandy Alderson had a busy Tuesday. In the morning, he tweeted:
"Wife was not happy with the gift card. Should’ve bought her a box of chocolates."
Well played, Sandy. Well played. Then, he got on the horn with Mike Francesa to talk about the state of the team headed into spring training. If you wanted to, you could probably categorize it as "spin" but I prefer to be positive going into spring training, so let's just call this the optimist's view of the team. Yes, that's it.
The Mets announced on Tuesday that to celebrate their 50th anniversary, they will feature team alumni in their bobblehead giveaways. I am personally glad to see the organization pay tribute to Edgardo Alfonzo, who is one of my favorite players on those late-90's/early 2000's teams. The team also officially announced the addition of Josh Lewin to the WFAN radio booth, in place of Wayne Hagin.
Will Bud Selig do what may be best for baseball and finally dispatch the Wilpons from the MLB owner's circle? Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal took a look into our team's situation and speculates on just how long Fred and Saul may have.
ESPN's Mark Simon took a statistical look at what is next for Andres Torres offensively. I know he's 33 and he's had just one full, above average offensive season in 2010 but I do think people are underrating him a bit.
Toby Hyde's Top 41 prospect countdown covered Not-a-SS Wilmer Flores at #17 and C Albert Cordero at #16. Flores dropped like a rock from last season's rankings due to a stagnant 2011 in St. Lucie, while Cordero likely represents the best and most well-rounded catching prospect currently in the organization. Oh--and just in case you were wondering, Matt den Dekker is not Grady Sizemore.
Patrick Flood is revisiting his 2014 Mets Power Rankings from a few weeks ago, giving his own Pre-Spring training rankings with detailed rundowns of each player who could play a role on a contending club.
For more on the prospects down on the farm, Fake Teams took a look at the Top 50 Dynasty League Prospects around the majors and both Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler made the cut. Finally, Rob Patterson at Mets Fever spoke with Adam Foster of Project Prospect about the Mets' young core of near major league ready pitching.
Around the Majors
Rays manager Joe Maddon has agreed to a three year extension with the club.
Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor from the inside of his right cheek on Tuesday. Best of luck to Gwynn and hopefully doctors were able to remove it all. As an aside, Tony Gwynn's Baseball Reference page is one of my personal favorites. The man struck out 15 times in 577 plate appearances in 1995 and hit .368/.404/.484. Okay, it's not 1941 Joe DiMaggio but it's still incredibly impressive.
The White Sox and outfielder Kosuke Fukudome agreed on a one year deal worth $500,000 in 2012. People say the Mets have had a rough offseason but did you know that Fukudome was the first major league free agent signing the White Sox made all offseason? How about that!
Bidders for the Dodgers' ownership are set to meet with the MLB ownership committee early next month. The committee features, among others, Mets owner Fred Wilpon. Or at least, at the time of this writing it does. We'll see where we are in a month. For Fred's sake, hopefully he isn't snakebitten, baby!
Chris Cwik at Fangraphs took a look at the best sliders of 2011. In case you didn't realize, Clayton Kershaw is flat out ridiculous.
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My second favorite Mets first baseman of all time reminds us that we're only 5 days away!

The 2011 New York Mets: Well, I been down so goddamned long, that it looks like up to me.
by CTRefJay on Feb 15, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'll assume it's a guy with a mustache who is only known by one name.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Feb 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I'll assume it's a guy with a mustache who is only known by one name.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.
by Steve Schreiber on Feb 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Outstanding.
I’ll rec both, to show the awesome of the man and to Steve’s post.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
You know what?
It’s better if you guys just ignore what I tried to write in the body of this post. Cause I didn’t even understand what the hell I’m saying.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
by meigs1414 on Feb 15, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
of course
the awesome of the man of name keith
I believe in one Dickey, Maker of knuckles and balls
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Feb 16, 2012 7:05 AM EST up reply actions
I see what you did there.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 15, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Who had a mustache?
Don’t remember anything but a floating bat
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
by astromets on Feb 15, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That isn't who
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Fatcessa
I didnt listen to the WFAN clip but I caught the summary on Gieco Sports Night, his comments arent surprising
ESPN, Mike Francesa, NY Post, NY Daily News, Fox Sports = Propaganda
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I tuned into SAs interview
yesterday.
I agree about the optimism. He’s got a knack for spinning it where it’s not the usual fluff sound bytes but instead combines realistic with a little bit of hope.
When Francesa asked him if he expected ‘this’ when he took the job…his answer was the only one where you could hear just a little bit of exasperation or anger. Loved the answer:
‘Look, I didn’t come here to operate the Oakland A’s. And I don’t expect to have to do that on a long-term basis, and I’m not doing it currently.’
Are you listening Bayonne and Pomes?
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 15, 2012 9:29 AM EST reply actions
if they are listening, they have probably already found a way to hate what he said
those two are just angry people who seem not to derive any actual joy from baseball. how else could you explain pomes’ hatred of beltran or bayonne’s TRAID WRONGZ mentality? Or either of their “I’m gonna laugh so hard when Sandy fails” rooting against their own “favorite” team. What the hell kind of damaged person roots for their favorite team to fail in order to prove some sort of inane point about sabermetrics or moneyball or whatever.
My problem is that I keep reading what they tweet. Why do I do it? I can’t stop; it’s like an accident that I can’t take my eyes off of even though I want to. I just need baseball season to start I think…
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 15, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure they get a dopamine hit from all the attention
Especially Pomes. I bet he has five times the twitter followers I have, as an example, all because people want to see whaty crazy stuff he’ll say. Attention like that can be a drug. A lot easier to ignore those guys when they are spouting off in a bar. I don’t know why people choose to engage on the internet.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Feb 15, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
at least I have managed to not get into any internet fights with Pomes
people are constantly trying to talk sense to him on twitter, but that is a fool’s errand to end all fool’s errands.
Now I just have to stop paying any attention to him at all, and maybe he’ll go away…
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 15, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of twitter:
Mets trending on Twitter daily? Amazin’
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/37966/mets-trending-on-twitter-daily-amazin
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 15, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Ah, no website is able to sidestep retarded commenters...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
aronfsky666
would like a word with you
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 15, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
she said commenters
we can have one.
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Feb 15, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
btw, for some reason I recall BDMF as a female
but that may have been metsfanfordecades
no insult implied in either case.
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Feb 15, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Metsfan4decades is female.
BDMF definitely isn’t.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Did that older lady who used to call into the FAN die?
If so, I think we’re down to just Gina as far as female Mets fans overall.
Doris from Rego Park.
Yes, in 2003.
The 2011 New York Mets: Well, I been down so goddamned long, that it looks like up to me.
Also giving him more twitter followers than you
is the fact that he doesn’t lock his tweets :)
A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan
by Blame-everyone-else on Feb 15, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly what you said....
I think Pomes is more about shock value than anything else but that Bayonne is just one angry dude. He’s taking this all far too personally. It’s only a game – diehard fan or not.
I don’t follow the tweets much but I do read some posts over on MMO.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 15, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Poked my head out of my hole
There seems to be a shadow (the Wilpon ownership), so I am going to go back into my hole (NFL Mock drafts websites) for another few months.
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Flores at 17 doesn't seem right
He doesn’t exactly have a premium position (or any position?), but he’s still a 20-year-old who has a cumulative .280/.314/.392 line in A+, which isn’t all that off from his total Minor League career line of .280/.321/.394. All the performance and projectability that generally nets him close to the top is still there so I don’t really see how he can dip so low, realistically. I don’t think he took steps back to that degree, or that the rest of the system improved to that degree. Cordero being ranked ahead of him, I don’t get. Compare Flores’ numbers to Cordero’s cumulative .282/.324/.410 line. Cordero slugs a little more, and is a catcher, but otherwise, the two are more or less the same statistically, with Flores being four years younger and having a seemingly considerably higher ceiling and better tools.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM EST reply actions
I believe the rationale is that Cordero is a better fielder.
You need to compare Cordero to other catchers (so they say), but Flores is supposed to be compared to guys at positions further down the defensive spectrum, because it’s assumed he’ll end up at third base — or lower — and compared to a third (or — gasp! — first) baseman, Flores doesn’t look as impressive. Cordero isn’t getting shifted anywhere.
I missed the Francesca spot
How many seconds did it take him to include the Yankees in the interview?
Most impressive thing I've heard Sandy say:
“Torres, you can’t be the leadoff guy with a .310 on-base percentage.”
Now, if only Collins read that interview….
I find it hard to believe that Collins is some neanderthal who lives and swears
by the SBBS method of lineup construction, where the stolen base king must bat lead off. He had a .310 on-base percentage in a down year, where he dealt with some injuries and had a low BABIP in comparison to career norms, though he had an increased walk rate. If he can return to health and play like he did in 2009-10, he’s as good an option as any.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand."
-Wes Westrum
"I'm a huge advocate of pitching"
-Tom Seaver
yeah, I figure Sandy must vet Terry's decisions
I mean…didn’t he pretty much invent that? Why would he immediately hire a manager who defied his main expectation from a manager?
Then again, we saw so many BUNTZ last year that I have no idea what to believe.
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 16, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
Patrick Flood (I think) did an analysis of how 'sabremetric' Mets' managers have been through time.
His conclusion in a small sample size was that Terry doesn’t bunt more than the average 2011 MLB manager, nor does he bunt more than the average Mets’ manager throughout history.
He evaluated a bunch of different aspects of managing: Frequency of hit-and-run, attempted steals, bunts, intentional walks, pinch hitting, pitcher switches, etc. It’ll be in his archives if you want to check it out. And if he really is the guy who wrote it.
Haha, Anna Benson replied to Sandy's tweet
The Real Anna Benson@TheAnnaBenson
@MetsGM what part of women want #flowers #Chocolate #wordsofundyinglove do you men not understand? #getittogetherguys
she either doesn’t get the gist of his account or she, herself, is being silly…gentle(wo)men, form your opinions.
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Feb 16, 2012 3:25 AM EST reply actions
Oh, Anna Brettson...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
Ryder or Riot #WWWYKI
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 16, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Are you suggesting...
That anna benson knows how to read?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Feb 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Frankly...
…I’d love to see Fred get bitten by a snake, become delerious and sell the team to Mark Cuban.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!? Right here: http://www.mets360.com/
If we're fantasizing
Can me make it so when he comes into NY to buy the Mets, he gets the Knicks too?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand."
-Wes Westrum
"I'm a huge advocate of pitching"
-Tom Seaver

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