Gary Carter, Mets All-Time Great Catcher, Has Died
After a long and courageous battle with brain cancer, Gary Carter has died at the age of 57.
Carter was originally drafted by the Montreal Expos in 1972, and after establishing himself there as one of the best all-around catchers in baseball, Mets GM Frank Cashen brought him to New York in exchange for Hubie Brooks, Mike Fitzgerald, Herm Winningham, and Floyd Youmans. Carter hit .281/.365/.488 in 1985, his first season at Shea, earning him an All-Star nod and a sixth-place finish in National League MVP voting that year.
He hit .255/.337/.439 in 1986, a drop-off from his '85 campaign, but he really shined in the postseason. Despite struggling for most of the NLCS against the Astros, his dramatic game-winning RBI single in the bottom of the 12th in Game 5 gave the Mets a 3-2 series lead heading back to Houston. And oh was he splendid in the World Series against the Red Sox, slugging .552 and belting two monster-clearing home runs to propel the Mets to a 6-2 win in Game 3, an affair played under dire circumstances after the Mets had dropped the first two games at home.
But Carter is probably best remembered for his single to left field with two outs and nobody on in the bottom of the tenth inning of Game 6 with the Mets trailing 5-3 and the dream of a championship on the cusp of complete evaporation. Visions of the glorious finish to that game have been seared into the mind of every Met fan.
Please use this thread to say goodbye to the Kid.
UPDATE: The Mets have released an official statement:
“On behalf of everyone at the Mets, we extend our deepest and heartfelt condolences to Gary’s family -- his wife Sandy, daughters Christy and Kimmy and son D.J. His nickname 'The Kid' captured how Gary approached life. He did everything with enthusiasm and with gusto on and off the field. His smile was infectious. He guided our young pitching staff to the World Series title in 1986 and he devoted an equal amount of time and energy raising awareness for a multitude of charities and community causes. He was a Hall of Famer in everything he did.”
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Fuck cancer
RIP Gary.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
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by Syler on Feb 16, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions 24 recs
I remember the ’86 season well, and I especially remember game 6 of the World Series (and game 1 for a different reason), 2 outs, nobody on in the 9th and the Mets were about to hand the Red Sox the World Series. Sitting in the dayroom at …Fort Devens, about 1130 at night, I was fully expecting to go to bed reflecting on a Mets loss. Then the Kid steps up to the plate, and suddenly it was the start of a whole new game. RIP Gary, and thanks for the memories.
by DonGaron on Feb 16, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
:(

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 16, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions 58 recs
This should be green.
Make it so.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 16, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Shit. Sympathies and best wishes to Carter's family.
Never got to see you play in person, Gary, but thanks for everything.
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by Aidan Gibson on Feb 16, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Damn
He fought the good fight. R.I.P, Gary.
Thanks for the memories.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 16, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
RIP Carter
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by BlueChill on Feb 16, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
RIP Gary. My prayers to his family.
My favorite Met of that time.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Feb 16, 2012 5:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
:(
all the :(’s
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 16, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Gary was my first favorite player
Which pretty much makes him my favorite player of all time. A sad day, RIP Gary.
by ackbar7 on Feb 16, 2012 5:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
RIP
Never will forget you Gary, you were instrumental in my becoming a Met fan!
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by CCE718 on Feb 16, 2012 5:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So incredibly sad
My condolences and best wishes to his family, friends, and fans. Baseball lost such a fantastic person and player today.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Feb 16, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
RIP
May you look down on the Mets from above and show them the way.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 16, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I really want to cure cancer.
RIP Kid
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
RIP to one of my biggest childhood heroes.
so heartbreaking, he will always be in out hearts.
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by JetsMetsNets on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions 21 recs
I got goose bumps just looking at this picture
It looks like he is waving us his final goodbye and is sad to be going.
So damn sad.
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 16, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One day we will beat cancer
RIP Gary Carter
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Cancer sucks even more than the Phils
I loved the Gary as a kid and I always think of him and Orosco with their big smiles when I think about winning it all.
by FrancoTAU on Feb 16, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Never saw him play
but from what I’ve heard, he was a hell of a ballplayer. Let’s do the right thing here and officially retire #8
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by metman726 on Feb 16, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Gary is one more reason that makes me glad I kid in the 80s
he was one heck of a ballplayer. he will be missed.
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by feslenraster on Feb 16, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
RIP Kid.
Unfortunately, his playing career ended a few years before my fandom began so I never got to watch him play but I know how important he was to this team’s history and how great a guy he was. At only 57 years old, this is such a tragedy but at least he’s in a better place now.
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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 16, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
RIP Kid Carter.
I echo the above: Fuck cancer.
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by Jonathan. on Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
In memorium, one of my favorite childhood memories

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by statusquo on Feb 16, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions 33 recs
Make it green
Arteta, it's all about the right pass it goes left to the left foot of VAN PERSIE
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by Aidan Gibson on Feb 16, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What a hanger
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 16, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep terrible pitch
but being able to watch Carter get a walk off against the hated Cardinals in his very first Mets game is such a great thing today.
by ackbar7 on Feb 16, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I spoke to him about this about three years ago
I met Gary Carter when he was managing the Fullerton Flyers. I asked him about his famous homerun against Neil Allen. I said, “was it off one of those Allen’s flat fastballs”, and he said, with a lot of intensity, “no, no, it was the curve, I knew he’d throw me the hook and I was ready for it. Never heard a crowd so loud.” RIP kid.
by jacksonvillesuns on Feb 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Furthermore
I was at the game as a friend of the owners. The league was an independent minor league team. Fullerton is just outside LA. One of the cities in the league was Calgary. I said to the owner (a minor TV celebrity), " certainly Carter doesn’t ride up to Calgary on the bus. He’s a Hall of Famer after all." And the owner said, “Gary would have it no other way.” So sad he’s gone. The first of the 86 team to pass away, I would never imagine it’d be him.
by jacksonvillesuns on Feb 17, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
RIP Gary Carter
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by rcnt123 on Feb 16, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Keith broke down on SNY.
This is very, very sad.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 16, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
i dont think i could handle seeing Keith cry
the man is infallable in my eyes. Truly the first guy i loved in his twilight days with los mets.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Feb 16, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Heartbroken
but the kid is eternal.
by James Ubriaco on Feb 16, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
RIP Kid
Gary Carter was my first favorite professional athlete, the guy whose number I wanted to wear in little league. He’ll always occupy a special place in my memories.
by JoshNY on Feb 16, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The mets better do something to honor this man
He will be missed.
by Mike Clemente on Feb 16, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
It's pretty much obligatory
Also, if I heard correctly, in honor of the franchise’s 50th anniversary, there will be bobblehead giveaways of Mets past and present. Surely, Gary Carter will be among them. But of course, that alone isn’t sufficient.
RIP Gary Edmund Carter (1954 - 2012)
Gutted.
We lost one of our heroes today. But he will never be forgotten.
by Joamiq on Feb 16, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for the memories, Mr. Carter
May your family find peace.
by tmu on Feb 16, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Retire 8
I’m just to young to remember the epicness of The Kid. His heroics in game 6 lost on me because i was a wee lad.
But i’ve seen the dvd. I’ve seen the joy that game brings my dad and the joy Gary brought my dad for years. I feel awful for the Carter family but i feel bad for my dad too. He lost a hero.
My dad gave me a limited edition lithograph of the kid and doc both autographed…..its a cherished possesion i wont be giving up. Its luster dims a bit today.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Feb 16, 2012 5:39 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
God damn it.
Thank you for 1986; goodbye.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Feb 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Freaking...
cancer is a bitch. Here one day, gone the next.
I will always remember the Kid. Thanks for the memories.
RIP Carter.
Very sad day… :(
by NetsNewark on Feb 16, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
RIP Kid
We’ll always have ’86 baby.
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by dcrockett17 on Feb 16, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
cancer sucks
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by Greenpoint Ian on Feb 16, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
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by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 16, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions
RIP Kid
You were the last piece in the puzzle that brought a championship to Flushing. I was too young to fully appreciate the significance of it, but old enough to never forget it. RIP Gary, you will always be remembered fondly by Mets fans everywhere.
by Adam Callan on Feb 16, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
One of my most endearing memories of Gary Carter
had nothing to do with his heroics in 86. It was during his last days at Shea. The game is but a very hazy memory, like a lot of my memories from the late ‘80s and early ’90s. I just remember sitting in the mezzanine section of Shea, the Mets were losing, but they had a couple of men on base during one of the later innings. The Mets opt for a pinch hitter and call up Gary Carter. His best days were long past him and I think he might have retired after that year. But for that one instant, everyone in Shea was electrified by his presence at the plate. Soon the chant started, Gaaarrryyy, Gaaarrryyy … Pretty soon the whole stadium was chanting Gary’s name in that slow Gaaarrryyy, Gaaarrryyy. He battled pitch after pitch. And with every pitch the crowd would snap to attention and quiet down. He must have fouled off a ton of pitches and worked the count to 3-2. But after every pitch, the chant would just start again. Finally, with the stadium in a full froth and the count at 3-2, Gary took a mighty swing and struck out. The Mets would go on to lose that game. But I still remember Gary Carter the old warrior who could not turn back time.
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by aparkermarshall on Feb 16, 2012 6:05 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Rest in peace.
It’s a sad day in Flushing. Condolences to family that never stopped believing in him. Thank you for everything.
May you find happiness in heaven.
by htmlfreak on Feb 16, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
so sad
but I can’t think of him without smiling
by AnneInFlushing on Feb 16, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
a nod to our former rivals north of the border

Carter seemed like one of the few players who embraced the culture of Montreal and actually learned French while he was there. I’m sure there are more than a few former Expos fans who are as sad as us tonight.
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by Greenpoint Ian on Feb 16, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
man, i just stopped by the Nationals SB Nation site
and there are like, 5 comments on the thread for the Kid. I know that a lot—maybe most—Expos fans didn’t continue rooting for the team once it bailed on Montreal, but I wish that the Nats would do more to honor their greats.
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 16, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I specifically went to Federalbaseball just to see the reaction there, also
I can’t say I’m disappointed, or surprised, or whatever, but…the Washington Nationals are the Washington Nationals, and the Montreal Expos are the Montreal Expos, and there’s still a lot of ‘bad blood’ there, I guess. At the very least, a generational thing.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 17, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
well
the expo fans must be somewhere on sbnation. they couldn’t have dissapeared
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It wouldn't surprise me if they did.
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 17, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Nevertheless, they are the same franchise
And his number ‘8’ is retired by the team now known as the Washington Nationals. I suppose, however, that it would be disingenuous to force a reaction from Nats fans who previously had no connection to the Expos from back in the day, though. (In addition to the fact that they generally retroactively associated that number exclusively with Cal Ripken, Jr. at the time, as O’s fans. )
RIP Gary Edmund Carter (1954 - 2012)
Are the really the same franchise?
Technically, perhaps, but I would dispute that.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 17, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Without getting into heap-like issues, the Winnipeg Jets (original) are the same franchise as the Phoenix Coyotes. The Seatle Sonics are the same franchise as the Kansas City Thunder.
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Like I said, technically they are, but in reality, I'd say no
If a team leaves a city, but carries on the name- the Dodgers, Giants, Braves, the A’s- the connections are very obviously still there. When a team leaves a city and changes their name- Washington Senators to Minnesota Twins- the brand is dissolved, and fanbase geographically fragmented. The Twins were owned, run, and staffed by (more or less) the same people when they went to Minnesota in 1961, but the Washington Senators still ceased to exist. The Phoenix that rises from the ashes of it’s predecessor is it’s own distinct, separate entity, born of, but not the same as it’s parent.
Of course, the Nats doing their best to distance themselves from the Expos hurts even more in that regard.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 17, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
One could say that they are the same franchise, de jure
But not so much, de facto.
The clear separation here is between organizational entity, and quality/environment/culture, and fanbase in general. While a legacy within the organization continues, the culture and setting is different. It’s quite comparable to a change of personality within the same person. One may hear the phrase “you’re not the same person you used to be” – I think that sums it up well.
RIP Gary Edmund Carter (1954 - 2012)
Actually, while the Nats are the same franchise as the Expos,
the Nats unretired all of the Expos retired numbers upon moving to DC a few years ago.
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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 17, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
The Nationals' website mentions the number is a retired number
http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/was/history/retired_numbers.jsp
However, checking baseball-reference.com, #8 was worn by Nationals players Marlon Anderson (2006), Chris Snelling (2007), Aaron Boone (2008) and Jorge Padilla (2009) I find the unretiring of the number unnecessary, and disrespectful as well. At least it was re-retired.
RIP Gary Edmund Carter (1954 - 2012)
I don't see a problem with it at all
We don’t expect Twins fans to be all emotional about Walter Johnson, nor would I expect a Nationals fan to feel emotional about Kirby Pucket. When a franchise moves, it moves, and it’s silly to pretend there’s any shared connection. I mean, as a New York national league fan, do you feel any connection to Tim Lincecum or Clayton Kershaw?
I like sports again. Thank you Tom & Eli. The Wilpons can still go suck it.
I went to the Habs site
And they had an article to honor Gary Carter as well. Not too many posts, but the ones that did, shared their memories of him.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
RIP
Thanks for the memories.
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by Blame-everyone-else on Feb 16, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dear Met fans
I hated the Mets in the 80s, I especially disliked Gary Carter but …
…the news that came out in May and the passing of the Kid today felt like 2 uppercuts to my stomach.
I am so very very sorry for Gary’s passing, for his family and friends and team mates. And my sincerest condolences to Met fans
RIP Kid and I cry along with you Met fans, today we are all on the same team
by sgiustra on Feb 16, 2012 6:19 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Goodbye Gary
Taken before your time, and fuck cancer. I never got to see you live, but 4 months before my birth you saved the Mets last World Series win, and for that you were forever dear in my heart. My thoughts and prayers go to your family.
I know there was strong debate about whether or not to retire number #8 several months ago, but honestly right now I would rather see his number up on the wall than not.
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by blueandorange4life on Feb 16, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
the kid
Hit a game winning grand slam against the Braves my first time at Shea in 1985. Still one of the best days of my life. Thanks for the memories Mr Carter.
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Feb 16, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for starting The Rally, Kid
Retire #8
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by Homey Chives on Feb 16, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Greatness, gone.
My own little Gary Carter story: We met Mr. & Mrs. Carter on a flight from West Palm to NYC – I think it was 2000 or 2001 (pre 9-11). I was in the next-to-last row and my wife said “I think there’s someone from the Mets behind us” – in the very last row! I turned around and there he was. Shortly afterwards, some on the lavatory line recognized him and the jig was up. I turned around once more and just said: “thanks Gary”. That wasn’t enough for the Kid – he tapped me on the shoulder and we talked. I still have a signed card from him. His best moment? Opening Day 1985 when he hit that extra inning HR! “I never heard my name being chanted before!” GARY! GARY! GARY! Rest in Peace, my friend.
by loge23 on Feb 16, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
..about that flight
I asked him how he ended up in the last row! He said, "I’ll have to ask Jay (Horwitz) about that! I bet he never did. His wife, Sandy, btw was just as nice.
by loge23 on Feb 16, 2012 6:23 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
the Mets are so fucking cheap
LOL
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 16, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
RIP Kid.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
by TKFJ on Feb 16, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
the kid
Hit a game winning grand slam against the Braves my first time at Shea in 1985. Still one of the best days of my life. Thanks for the memories Mr Carter.
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by brooklynberger on Feb 16, 2012 6:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
We'll say goodbye. You're up there now, Gary. You're up there.

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by SuperSantana on Feb 16, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Rest in peace, kid
My heartfelt condolences go out to his family. What a terrible day. It was very hard to hear Keith crying his eyes out on the phone.
by graves9 on Feb 16, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I never got to see him play live
but if you grow up as a Mets fan, you’ll hear all kinds of wonderful stories about the type of player and person he truly was. This is a terrible tragedy, but even the last photos of Kid showed the same smile he had throughout his life, and you know that, just like in 1986, he fought until the very end. This is a huge loss to the Mets family and I’m anxious to see how the team honors him this season.
RIP Carter. Say hi to Gil and Tommie for us.
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Adieu, Kid.

From what I’m reading, this one stings a ton in Montreal too.
I'd rather have a Groupon than a Wilpon.
by Five-Tool Tool on Feb 16, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
That's to be expected
He was the best and the most popular player in their franchise history. Go watch the clip of his last major league hit on MLB.com, a sell-out crowd at Olympic Stadium, he was as beloved in the great white north as he was in NY.
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watched that clip
It’s a bummer all around. Gary is gone. The man who calls the play-by-play, Harry Caray, is gone, and the Expos are gone.
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by Greenpoint Ian on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That story that Kevin told, about the boy running down the street in his neighborhood...
that was really beautiful. I’m feeling emotional right now.
Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails." —William Arthur Ward
Wait, now Carlos Beltran is KILLING people?
No, but seriously, RIP Kid. I started following the Mets right after he left, which means I missed an awesome era of baseball, but I’ve watched enough video of the ’86 team to consider myself a fan (I was elated when he finally got into the hall), and I kinda wish he had been given a shot to manage the team after Willie got fired.
I like sports again. Thank you Tom & Eli. The Wilpons can still go suck it.
by cjmulrain on Feb 16, 2012 6:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Feels so weird
This is the first time as a ‘hardcore’ fan that someone important to the team has died.
My favorite poet:
Your grief for what youve lost holds a mirror
up to where youve bravely working.
Expecting the worst, you look and instead,
heres the joyful face youve been wanting to see.
Your hand opens and closes and opens and closes.
If it were always a fist or always stretched open,
you would be paralyzed.
Your deepest presence is in every small contracting and expand
the two as beautifully balanced and coordinated
as birdwings.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 16, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I was in Kindergarden in 1986 and I wrote Gary a fan letter (with my mom's help).
He wrote me back and included an autographed picture. I still have it. God rest his soul. He will always be my favorite pro athlete.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
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by Crazy Nyce Dave on Feb 16, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
RIP 'Kid'
I never did get a chance to see Gary play, but I know that if everyone in baseball brought the same passion to the field, our pastime would be that much greater. I did have the opportunity to meet him on a flight a while back, and he was nice enough to take a picture with a group of us after we had landed (I was 11 at the time). One of the most influential players in this organization’s history…a lengthy tribute is undoubtedly in order.
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by santana9237 on Feb 16, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
One of my favorite pictures

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by piazza62 on Feb 16, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
The memories will stay
Very sad..I share the sentiments of Matthew Cerrone on how sports teaches you about life and how to be a man, and how Gary Carter was one of those notable teachers
"Its only a game, but it helps teach you about life"
by Seaver73 on Feb 16, 2012 7:14 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I already commented, but just wanted to add this
Today, you see players ‘dog it’ all the time, give far less than 100%, demand trades, and show no desire whatsoever to be part of a winning product.
Then you watch Gary (even just highlights, for me), how excited he would get after scoring, or seeing a teammate drive in a big run, or anything that helped the team.
Why can’t everybody bring the same passion to baseball (and sports, in general) that Gary did. God damn, he will be missed.
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by santana9237 on Feb 16, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
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Why can’t everybody bring the same passion to baseball (and sports, in general) that Gary did. God damn, he will be missed.
Because there was only one Gary Carter.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 16, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yep.
Take notes, world.
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When I started following baseball in the early 80s, Carter was my favorite catcher
I was thrilled when he then became a Met. He was truly one of my favorites. Now he’s been killed by cancer at 57. My father was killed by cancer when he was 58. That’s just too young. Way too young.
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by Russ on Feb 16, 2012 7:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
...aaaaaand Gary lets up a passed ball
I’m guessing his WPA still winds up positive
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Good times
Doc on the mound, Keith patrolling first, Tim McCarver not sucking… good times.
FWIW, two beach balls and a roll of toilet paper on the field during the first two 2 AB’s.
Also, Ralph KIner interviewing George HW Bush during the inning break? Hell yeah!
"It’s like being in love with an alcoholic. It’s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, ‘Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,’ and you’re like, ‘Nah, you don’t know her like I do."- Jim Breuer
Dammit.
He was my brother’s hero and a big part of our childhood baseball fandom. Too soon for him to go. Damn.
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by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Feb 16, 2012 7:36 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This sad person is sad.
RIP Gary.
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by R_Adragna on Feb 16, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
RIP Kid
During the ’86 season, he was my favorite Met. I stuck with him in the rapid decline that followed.
Vince Coleman may have had his number, but he prevented WP as well as any catcher of his time and he could block the plate with the best of them.
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by dissento on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
LOL@ your sig
God Bless Ralph
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 16, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't even want to think about Ralph, and death...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 16, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you don't have to
he is never gonna die. NEVER, you hear me?
by BurleighGrimes on Feb 16, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Farewell, Kid.
When I was a baby, I was on line to meet him, and he was about to leave, while I was next in line. He ended up staying so I could meet him. I got this poster signed by him…

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by Lance Johnson on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I started writing something Carter related, but I like the first paragraph
Less than a year ago, Gary Carter’s name found itself plastered on the back pages of newspapers across the country. On May 21st, 2011, Carter issued a statement to the press where he revealed that his doctors had discovered four small tumors in his brain. Biopsies done at Duke University concluded that the small tumors were malignant, and that the Hall of Fame catcher had brain cancer, likely inoperable. Glioblastoma multiforme, the form of cancer he was diagnosed with, had a poor prognosis, with the median survival time being a paltry 14 months. He took the news in stride, and kept in good spirits. Over the course of the year, he underwent assorted types of treatments. At times, the news looked good, and it seemed as if Carter would do the impossible- nothing new for the guy who stared defeat in the eyes multiple times in 1986 and not only survived unscathed, but ultimately triumphed- and somehow beat inoperable, deadly cancer. As 2011 turned into 2012, word out of the Carter camp wasn’t nearly as good. Though he was still fighting, his immune system and body were weakened by ordinary afflictions multiplied in severity by the cancer in his system, and the aggressive treatment he was receiving to keep it in check. Worse yet was the news that, despite all of the medical attention he was receiving, new tumors had been discovered by doctors. Carter himself kept in his spirits, as was seemingly his modus operandi in life, but the new news cemented the reality that, despite the aggressiveness of the treatment, despite the money to pay for the best doctors and facilities, despite the patient’s zest for life, he was a man living on extremely borrowed time. That reality came into clear focus on February 16th, 2012, when Gary Carter finally succumbed to the cancer that ravaged his body. In less than a year, he went from being a generally healthy 57-year-old physical specimen to yet another casualty of cancer, a testament to the fragility of life.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This picture is beyond awesome
It can’t be too easy to find Gary Carter, Jerry Koosman, Dwight Gooden, and Mike Piazza all in one shot. 4 of the great Mets.
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by piazza62 on Feb 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Here are other Mets greats in one shot
this is from the last game at shea

One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 17, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This picture must be green'd
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by blueandorange4life on Feb 17, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
So goddamn sad
I hate facebook generally, but I appreciate that this news has prompted a communal mourning, reminiscing and sharing between the baseball fans among my friends. Including the Yankee fans (“I hated those 86 punks but I always loved Gary Carter”). We will miss him.
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by Terry_is_God on Feb 16, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sad, but thankful I got to see him play
Life is rarely fair and this is sad news indeed. But I am forever thankful that I got to watch Carter play. I hope he knew the joy he brought to so many people.
I never saw him play
He was before I was born. But, I met him at a card shop when I was in elementary school. I remember going up to him, giving him a scuffed up. I didn’t have enough money to buy a new baseball. He looked at me and smiled. I forgot what he said, it was him joking around with me. He signed the ball and it’s in my room still.
I now see why he meant so much to a different generation than mine. RIP.
by Kyle Schnitzer on Feb 16, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I am so fucking sick of cancer
too many people too close to me within the last couple of years and now a symbol of my youth.
I wish his family peace and comfort.
by lstorie1971 on Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Too damn soon.
I know it’s been said before, but it bears repeating: fuck cancer.
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 16, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This thread making me even more sad,
But Ted Berg and Greg Prince just did me in.
Damn. Damn. Damn.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 16, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was at Kid's first game as a Met
Freezing in the upper deck. It was so cold and the game was taking so long, I had to leave after 9 innings because it was bowling night and I was team captain. (Guess I’m not as much True Fan as I would like to think.) Got on the 7 train back to Main Street. Someone had a portable TV on the train. Just before we went into the tunnel, Kid went deep. It was a miracle our jumping and high fiving didn’t make the train go off the tracks.
Thanks for all the great memories, Kid. Condolences to Sandy, your daughters and grandchildren.
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by StorkFan on Feb 16, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Nice touch by Jon Stewart on tonight's Daily Show.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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The Moment of Zen was the clip of his homer versus the Cardinals.
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good call.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Feb 17, 2012 9:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I was in Brigantine NJ
listening to game 6 in my ornithology professor’s vw van, feeling very dejected, when Carter stepped to the plate and I remember thinking: It’s a shame Gary won’t get a ring. Little did I know. RIP Gary Carter.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
i've been thinking about this all night.
i was 7 years old when Gary Carter was traded to the Mets. i’d seen him play a couple of games at Shea with the Expos before that. the first game i can remember was in 1983. i would turn 6 after that baseball season was over. i still have the program from that ‘83 game (somewhere). and though i didn’t know it then, that Expos team was stacked. Carter, Dawson, Raines, and Wallach were all on that team. i was skeptical of the trade in the Winter of ’84 because one of my favorites, Met third baseman Hubie Brooks, went to the Expos. obviously, the Mets got the better end of the deal, but it was my first lesson in the transient nature of labor (my next lesson was DLR leaving Van Halen, which was explained to me in the context of the Gary Carter trade).
Carter was never my favorite Met. maybe it was because he was too “adult” and i was all of 9 years old when i arrived in the upper deck of Shea Stadium for Game 1 of the 1986 World Series, and watched most of the game through my dad’s binoculars. my favorite players were the younger, scrappier guys, like Lenny Dykstra and Wally Backman. it’s really only in adulthood that i appreciate what Carter brought to the Mets. not just leadership, but perspective on the game. how to pitch in different situations, how to really work a count, and how to get out unscathed while Doug Sisk threw cantaloupes with ducks on the pond.
there’s not much success to latch onto as a Met fan. a few brief winning patches among a sea of bad decisions during the past 30 years. but you’d read interviews or see his HOF speech and look at the current crop of talent to see who could be that kind of leader with that perspective. and maybe that’s why Gary Carter’s death means so much to me, and why when i went out tonight, i wore my Expos hat in honor of the man.
now when Ralph Kiner dies, and he’s going to be 90 this year, i’m going to weep like a little girl.
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I have never posted here before, but I have to get this off of my chest.
I’m 28 years old and have grown up a diehard Mets fan. Gary Carter is my all-time favorite Met. There are no words to describe his tenacity, his dedication, and his desire to give 1000% and win games.
I grew up playing baseball and I ended up being a catcher. I emulated my game to be exactly the way he played. He always carried a smile on his face and made everyone around him happy.
When I think of him, I think of the 86 Series when after Orosco threw the final strike, the jubilation as he ran at him and was lifted off of his feet will carry with me the rest of my life. His 1986 jersey is the only Mets jersey I own, and it is the only jersey I will ever own and wear. Many things can be said about that 1986 team: They were drug addicts, they partied all hours of the night, etc. But Gary was the good guy. He didn’t do anything like that and was a true man. When I think of the 1986 Mets, his name is the first one that comes to mind.
Gary, you’ve touched millions of us here in New York and in Montreal. Some were too young to watch you play, but they all know of who you are and how much you’ve meant to this franchise. Those of us who have watched you play will never forget those memories. They have been emblazoned in our minds that will carry with us forever. Rest in peace Kid. God took a great one from us today.
And one last thing Gary: Thank you. Thank you for the memories and the hope, pride and joy you gave us Mets fans. You will never be forgotten.
by j_dizzle on Feb 17, 2012 1:50 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
we could use more like you on this site
take your coat off, sit down, and stay a while
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Feb 17, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pictures fade away
But memory’s forever
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Feb 17, 2012 1:55 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Truly saddened by this.
One of the great people in the world. A gentleman, a great ballplayer. Modeled my catching style and batting stance like his in my little league and high school baseball days.
Rest In Peace, Kid.
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while...you'll miss it." Ferris Bueller (1985)
Rest in peace, Gary Carter
It’s a shame that he had to go so soon; sadly, as Keith had said, those close to Gary pretty much knew that he did not have much time left. That brings to mind the suffering that he must’ve endured, which I would say was unimaginable for him, and especially his family and friends. As per his legacy, though, his impact is immortal beyond his being.
I’m quite sure that Gary would want us to appreciate that which he has, in part, given us, and live just as he did, with a profound and jubilant outlook on life. The best way we can honor him, aside from celebrating his legacy, is to derive some life lessons from his philosophy, and to learn from him.
RIP Gary Edmund Carter (1954 - 2012)
by sj10689 on Feb 17, 2012 6:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
RIP Gary
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
RIP Gary Carter
My prayers go out to his family in their time of grief.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
RIP Gary Carter - I Lived in Boston in 1986...
and fortunately for cable TV at the time I saw almost every Met regular season game during that truly Amazin season!! Gary Carter was the rock — the anchor of that team. A true professional and left it all out on the field – day in and day out!
I want to add that only in the last 10-20 years are we making progress treating and curing brain tumors and cancers for children and adults. Its often a tough fight and more often a short one. My son has been fortunate to currently be a 10 year brain tumor survivor and I have not heard of any special charity to donate in honor of Gary Carter. I have saved the information somewhere on the Tug McGraw fund (another great Met we lost to this disease) and will send in something in honor of both of them..
My prayers go out to Gary and condolences to Gary Carter’s family – may they find peace in the memories of a great father, citizen, and hall of fame ballplayer.
Sad day
He was an awesome role model, and one of my boy hood heroes. I wish his family stregnths. Thanks for game 6, 1986 and 88. We were lucky to be able to root for you Kid.
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For once, I have nothing clever or witty to say
Just feeling a sense of sadness and a little bit more of lost youth.
Godspeed, Kid.
The 2011 New York Mets: Well, I been down so goddamned long, that it looks like up to me.
Rest in peace Kid
the world is just a little bit darker without your presence.
My first baseball game
Was a Sunday matinee in 1985, and Carter had the day off. I must have been in 1st grade or so, but just barely baseball-coherent enough to know what was going on. We were late – got there in the fourth inning. The Mets were behind in the bottom of the 9th, when Carter came to the on deck circle to pinch hit. A sellout crowd went crazy “GARY! GARY! GARY!”, and he came up and promptly won the game with a home run. I cant say Carter was my favorite, but that was one hell of a moment.
Post script – I spent some time this morning going through b-ref game logs for that game, and it never happened. My memory of it is crystal clear – I am as sure of the sequence of events as I am of where I am right now, but I could not find a Sunday game where Carter had a pinch hit home run in any of his Met years – or any game, for that matter, where he came off the bench with a game winning homer. Funny things, our memories.
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