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Is it time to bring back a team captain?

Is there a reason why the team hasn't had a captain since John Franco? Some say that Wright is the unofficial captain but it doesn't seem that someone who is as soft spoken as Wright is would be fitting for that role.

As I've said in the past I have a huge disdain and loathing for most of the MSM (including the Around the Empire writer for the SB New York page) who cover our team who in reality are just propaganda mouth pieces for the Yankees. However once in awhile he hear the rant that the team is lost without a captain from them. Granted to date their are only three teams that currently have actual captains; White Sox, Red Sox and Yankees so their theory is pretty much bogus. It did get me thinking, with our team going in the direction of youth perhaps it's time for one of the "vets" to step up to the plate. Our "vets" contain Dickey, Santana, Wright, Pelfrey and Bay and from where I stand Dickey stands out from the rest of them as far as leadership qualities go.

Some will say that Dickey is just another journeyman who managed to turn it on before he had to make the decision of giving up a career in baseball altogether however it's more than that. With the nature of big professional sports contracts it's creates egos, big mouths and hype among other things. Dickey shows that he is a realist and is the counterpart to the modern day ego-maniacal and money driven athlete. With all the negativity that constantly bombards and surrounds the team (Madoff, a bias/hack filled media, horrible ownership, etc) Dickey seems like the type of player that keeps everyone in good spirits. Ultimately this decision is up to Terry Collins since in MLB captains are manager approved not voted for by the players like in the NFL but it could help Collins weather the potential storm that is the 2012 season.

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Dickey for president of the world!

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 3, 2012 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

he would be a good player-manager imo

why not a captain?

Really though, I don’t think an official captain really means much, especially since baseball players are probably more used to not having anyone labeled ‘The Captain’

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by astromets on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The only captaincy in sports that matters is in hockey.

Everything else is either a figurehead or for marketing purposes.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 3, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

This, pretty much

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't follow hockey

so I wouldn’t know how important captaincy is in the sport compared to others, but what about football? They’re not extremely important, but they still have responsibilities tied to the position other than being a figurehead. And captaincy in football is rarely used as a marketing strategy

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by JoeBighead on Feb 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

In addition to being the spiritual leader of the team

he basically runs the locker room and is responsible for communicating the coaches wishes to the rest of his teammates.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 6, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

also refs

Only lettered players (C’s and A’s, the captain and his alternates) can communicate with the refs and discuss calls on the ice. If there’s something really screwy going on, the ref will talk to the coaches about it, but generally, if you watch a game, two lettered players will stand with the ref in front of the penalty boxes and discuss the call.

by dunnowhat2type on Feb 6, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This too.

He’s also relied on heavily for PR and media relations (this is what doomed Luongo’s captaincy, the media often put him in lose-lose situations).

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 6, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

A goaltender can only be captain in spirit, but they cannot perform the duties of a captain because of the logistics of it. A skater was the on ice captain.

by dunnowhat2type on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I believe Willie Mitchel and Mattias Ohlund took care of the officiating relations but Luongo was the Captain.

However, around that time Luongo started getting labeled as a “loser” by the national media because he was the best (or one of the best) goaltender in the league but hadn’t one a Cup and the local media started inserting themselves and using their access to put undo pressures on his captaincy. Basically trying to get him to throw his defense under the buss and stuff like that. Your normal MSM douchbaggery.

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 7, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The Islanders wish they'd of kept that losing loser

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare he lose to good teams in the playoffs.

The nerve!

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 7, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure

ONLY the Captain and Alternate can talk with the refs.

by Joshuah on Feb 7, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean occassionally, the referee will go over to the bench and further explain decisions to the head coach, but generally lettered players discuss on ice issues with them.

by dunnowhat2type on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I hate to say this

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mets trade Dickey in 2012.

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by Bobby Baseball on Feb 3, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

I would

I don’t see anyone offering a package that’s more valuable to the Mets than a pitcher who can give you 200 innings on 125 ERA+ ball.

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by piazza62 on Feb 3, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I would

The team isn’t in a rush, so there’s no reason to get rid of him. If they want to, try next season.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

what piazza62 said

plus, why would we trade someone whose career is just starting!

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by astromets on Feb 3, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He has a reasonable contract

And puts up great pitching numbers. He would probably net a big return in a trade.

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by Bobby Baseball on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably not big enough

Dickey is under-rated and for the Mets’ sake I hope it stays that way.

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by Terry_is_God on Feb 3, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really. Look at it from the perspective of other teams

He’s in his late 30s (though the knuckleball makes his current age largely irrelevant still), has only one full season (and 3/4 of a season before that) of success, to go with ten years or so of toiling in the MiLB and MLB, is underrated in terms of W/L and peripherals…

I mean, that’s all negated by the fact that we know he’s Dickey, but other teams might not know/value that.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 3, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly dont see a team putting up a good package to trade him

Wright yes but Dickey no

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by BlueChill on Feb 3, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

WHo cares

I mean, no offense, but …….. they have much bigger problems.

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by fxcarden on Feb 3, 2012 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Should have been David already

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by Terry_is_God on Feb 3, 2012 9:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It shouldve but David doesnt seem to have that personality

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by BlueChill on Feb 3, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get that?

Beside the MSM, who has said that he’s not a leader-type?

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by Ogre39666 on Feb 3, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if he signs a long term extension

that is something they can consider. You don’t want to give the ‘Captain’ to someone who isn’t going to stay around

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by astromets on Feb 4, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the thing

With the turn over on this team from year to year it’s kinda hard. Reyes would’ve been perfect.

by TheKid08 on Feb 4, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

they did that with Arod in Texas

different situations, but it has happened before.

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by JoeBighead on Feb 5, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Quote of the Decade!
Dickey shows that he is a realist and is the counterpart to the modern day ego-maniacal and money driven athlete.

Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
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by SuperSantana on Feb 3, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Sure

as long as its not David Wrongz!!!!

by SFloridaMetsFan on Feb 4, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

The honor of "captain" was last bestowed

on two of the greatest mustaches in team history (with Carter as co-captain, of course). Now that Thayer is gone, no one on the current team fits the bill.

Have the Mets ever won without mustached players? Keith, Franco, Piazza, Millan, Valentin. That must be what made 1969 such an unbelievable feat.

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by piazza62 on Feb 7, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm...

You raise an intriguing point.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

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