Mets Revoke Megdal's Credentials
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More importantly, did he have his journalist credentials revoked?
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by Michkin on Feb 6, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They took them from Megdal to give back to Sam
Only one at a time can have
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Pathetic
Howard didn’t create this mess through years of piss poor management. I’d fully understand the club’s decision not to issue him credentials if he was factually incorrect, but he isn’t. All this time I actually thought the Wilpons were better than Jeffrey Loria or Donald Sterling…boy was I wrong.
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 6, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm Sure
There are writers for major outlets that they would love to pull credentials for, but they could never stand up to the media firestorm. This is just bullying, plain and simple. Megdal isn’t nearly as gleefully negative as some of the NYC tabloid sports guy.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Feb 6, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bullying
I agree – great choice of words. And like all bullies, Jeff picks on the easy target (as opposed to someone like Rubin)
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by Dandy Salderson on Feb 6, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Rubin
The Mets can’t very well keep out Adam Rubin, whose right to be in the clubhouse is guaranteed by his membership in the Baseball Writers Association of America.
I would love for the team to tell ESPN to go stick it but this rule prevents them from doing it
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I would like to trust this
But I don’t. Not that I have anything against Megdal, but it just defies belief that ANY organization that deals regularly with being reported on would say anything approaching “we don’t like your reporting.”
Megdal is the one writing the piece, yet he quotes the Mets as saying, “don’t like my reporting.” Obviously that’s not a direct quote, yet he puts it in quotes. Perhaps it’s as simple as needing brackets around the “my.” I doubt Megdal was educated as a journalist, and goodness knows that’s not a requirement for good reporting, but this illustrates why the niceties of quoting are important.
Anyway, with that issue, and the fact that my Mets are now being run by Mr. Alderson, who is not nearly stupid enough to do something this stupid, I have some doubts. It seems most likely that they cited actual problems with his reporting – problems not having to do with its critical nature, as that would be the stupid, stupid throwing of red meat to rabid dogs, but some actual problem – and Megdal has translated that for us all as, they “don’t like my reporting.”
by SuperT on Feb 6, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Islanders did it last year with Chris Botta
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But isn’t that also a fuzzy situation – somebody who was in the Islanders’ employ, and then went about attacking them? That’s not journalism, as the term is generally used. (Again, I don’t know what I’m talking about re Botta or the Islanders, at all.)
There are actual proper practices, and malpractices, to the profession of journalism. The quoting thing, for example. If Megdal doesn’t know what he’s doing when it comes to quoting, that could be a real problem. You can’t have somebody putting his own interpretation of what a team representative or player said in quotes, when the words are not actually the representative’s or the player’s. That’s seriously egregious, and grounds for a revocation of credentials. Reporters get fired for that. I don’t know what happened here, but Megdal isn’t giving us a lot of reason in this report to trust his journalistic bona fides.
He was not in the Islanders employ for over a year and a half.
Regardless, this sort of thing is far from unprecedented (I’m sure i an find other examples), and you’re attributing to Megdal here intentions that you have no basis for.
But hey, if you want to rationalize that your team is always right, like fans are won’t to do, go right ahead.
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Oh yeah, I'm pretty well known for loving the way the Mets go about things
I’m not attributing “intentions.” I’m trying to make the simple point that there are standards to journalism, and Megdal, in his account of this interaction, didn’t meet them, which gives us cause to wonder about his practices in general.
I don’t dislike him (I used to really enjoy his poems), and I don’t attribute ill intentions to him. I’m saying that pretending your own interpretation of someone’s words is what they actually said, by putting quotation marks around it, is a serious, serious offense in journalism. I would really like to know what Horowitz actually said. Did he in fact say, to Mayer, that the Mets “don’t like his [Megdal’s] reporting”? Or did Horowitz provide some other reason (problems with quoting personnel appropriately, for example) that Megal has paraphrased for us as, they "don’t like my reporting"? Given the quoting issue, we have no way of knowing.
I don’t know what the deal is here, it could well be that the Wilpons and Horowitz hate him and that’s the whole story. I’m saying, he’s giving us – in his very account of the thing – reason to doubt his account.
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by James Kannengieser on Feb 6, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, Megdal's quote DOES read, "don’t like his reporting" in the article
NOT “don’t like my reporting”
The Mets are not being run by Alderson
Their baseball decisions are. Their business decisions, which would include this assholery, are being run by the COO.
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by Dandy Salderson on Feb 6, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is a good catch
Thank you- have adjusted it. In quotes, should read “don’t like his reporting”, which is word-for-word what Jay told my editor.
by Howard Megdal on Feb 6, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Well, it's not any organization that regularly deals with the media
It’s the Mets. So this doesn’t shock me. They obviously don’t like Megdal at all. They really don’t like his book (though I haven’t seen any rebuttals from them on the content) and they can do it since he doesn’t have a trade union to protect him. I know Megdal gets some flack around here, but he was just reporting what was allegedly said to his editor, and I don’t have a good reason to doubt it.
And this kind of thing does happen. The Royals did it to Rany Jazayerli (of BP fame and now of Grantland) a few years ago because they didn’t like what he was writing. I think they eventually relented, though.
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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Feb 6, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Remember, this is the Mets we're talking about
it just defies belief that ANY organization that deals regularly with being reported on would say anything approaching "we don’t like your reporting."
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 6, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's an absolute disgrace
I haven’t always loved Howard’s work (see astromets’ comment above), but this is wrong on so many levels.
Not only is it wrong from a journalistic standpoint, it shows the awful PR machine the Mets have been infamous for over the years
by Bieser's Balk on Feb 6, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dispicable is a strong word, I think
The fact that they took away his credentials because of the very obvious reasons is poor, as Jerry would say. At the end of the day, though, is it not their right to do so? He doesn’t have a permanent job at ESPN, The New York Times, New York Magazine, The New York Observer, and the other places he mentioned he’s worked at, as far as I am understanding. He’s a blogger, whose connection to the journalism thing right now is the linked blog. Given that I could start up a semi-crappy blog in theory, should I be entitled to official credentials and whatnot?
I see this less as a story about a guy getting screwed and more the world having to come to terms with what journalism is evolving into. Couple with a lot of what has going on at Occupy movements, where credentialed journalists are given slight preference over “citizen journalists”, when in fact the unofficial, uncredentialed journalists are on the forefront of reporting what is happening, and aren’t slaves to a certain narrative or certain expectations like credentialed, “corporation” journalists are.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Not really
He “blogs” for The Journal News. He’s a freelancer, but he gets those Mets credentials on behalf of them.
by Bieser's Balk on Feb 6, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I worked with a EMS company, doing their website
I didn’t actually have a position with them, because I was technically a freelance person. If he is in the same position, and given that he has worked with the bunch of other groups that he mentioned as a freelance person, the Mets brass who don’t like him can use that technical loophole, because he works with the Journal News, but not for the Journal News (or whatever terminology you’d use) to try to “blackball” him specifically while not just revoking the credits of an entire newspaper.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I mean...
Obviously they can do it, if they did it. The point is that doesn’t make it any less reprehensible.
by Bieser's Balk on Feb 6, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Dems politics
Like he said, it was a privilege and all, because he’s not part of the BBWAA,, in some major mainstream paper/organization, it wasn’t a right. That’s why I mention that the world needs to start coming to terms with the internet media, because more and more journalism is done by the people who aren’t part of the BBWAA in those big conglomerates, because the focus on them is becoming less and less, and the focus on the independent guys like Megdal is becoming more and more.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
that's key
I think that’s pretty key. the BBWAA should protect the media from the team so they can do their jobs without fear of repercussion and provide the fans with the info they want.
Then again, would a bigger paper have pushed back?
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The BBWAA loves this, I bet
Not the details specifically, but it strengthens their own guys. One less “pseudoreporter” in his mom’s bassment being given the exclusive access the “professionals” are given. The complete wrong attitude, but I’ve always seen it as the old boy’s club.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 11:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But if Megdal gets a full-time gig (which he might if he's a solid journo and his book is any good)
Then he’s eligible for BBWAA and the immunity that comes with it?
As far as I am understanding, based on what was said
Adam Rubin, a member of the BBWAA, can’t be denied special inside access by agreement between the BBWAA and the MLB (and MLBPA, I guess, too). So, yeah.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
The thing that doesn't jive with what your saying is that
in his post, Megdal said that the Mets will continue to give credentials to the Journal News but they specifically will not give credentials to Megdal. So it doesn’t seem as if this has anything to do with keeping out blogs. It sounds like its about specifically keeping out Megdal.
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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 6, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I agree.
If they specifically said that they don’t like Megdal’s reporting, it sure sounds like they’re going after him as an individual. It sounds like the team was offended by what he was writing, not that he published some of it on a blog.
by EricAColucci on Feb 6, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That wasn't my point
It was that since he’s a freelance guy temporarily affiliated with whichever guys he’s working for at the time, and is not a true employee, people like him fall through the cracks of the rules, seemingly, and are unprotected from stuff like this. I already said it’s pretty obvious why Howard specifically was denied. That’s politics, and the team has the leverage to do that if your access is on semi-flimsy ground to begin with, as was the case here (and is the case with blogs in general).
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's all true
and has nothing to do with judging the merits of the action. Sure it’s in the Mets rights. It’s in the Mets rights to cut R.A. Dickey, to re-hire Jerry, to roll out green jerseys, to raise ticket prices $50 a pop. The mark of an acceptable action is not that it isn’t prohibited.
by Pack Bringley on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Nowhere in any of my posts did I defend what they did
As I’ve written fifteen times, it’s obvious why they didn’t renew his credentials.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 8, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I demand a 16th iteration
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Goodsir, that is an unreasonable demand for a gentleman such as myself
Retract it at once
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying this is a nonsequitor:
At the end of the day, though, is it not their right to do so?
More often than not, we have the right to act badly.
by Pack Bringley on Feb 9, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
*non sequitur
Don’t want to butcher a language when it’s dead.
p.s. I haven’t read Megdal’s book, so I’m not fire-breathing on his behalf, just making a point.
by Pack Bringley on Feb 9, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
And the rationalizing begins.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Rationalizing
As in, attempting to give a rational reason for an irrational or wrong decision.
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Wouldn't that pre-suppose the action was wrong without a "rational" reason for believing it to be?
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by Ogre39666 on Feb 6, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He had credentials last season, including for the final game
It just seems way too coincidental that they revoke them right after he releases the book.
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by Syler on Feb 6, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said, the reasons this was done to him, specifically, as opposed to Metsblog, or someone else, was pretty obvious
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 6, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Guys, you see
when this came out, I said to myself " this Howard Megdal guy, we have to investigate him", and so we did an investigation and found out that Howard, you know, he lobby for front office job, etc etc.
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by fxcarden on Feb 6, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions 15 recs
oh wow - cancel the Keith
somehow my post appeared twice on my computer.
TRAID
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Revoke
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by Dandy Salderson on Feb 6, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Still relevant and rec’d.
And that has happened to me twice in the past week – looks like I double posted but when I refresh it’s only there once.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think it only happens when I post
on my Galaxy tablet. Never happens when I’m posting from my laptop or desktop.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
been happening to me a lot lately for no reason
then disappears upon refresh
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You just have to wonder
how many others they would revoke if they weren’t protected?
It sounds like it’s getting a little too hot in someone’s kitchen.
When are they going to realize that this is not 1950? With just about free access to anyone and anything out there on the net, anyone with a little motivation can dig enough to get the facts they’re looking for to support or dispute a comment or story. Sounds like Howard did just that and the Mets don’t like it.
I’d say we as a fan base ought to be insulted that they think we’re all this gullible, naive or even stupid to take all their ‘spin’ at face value. But most of the time I’m too busy LOL.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think we're better than that, we know better than to be insulted at what private businesses think of us
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Not so much what they think of us per say,
but that they actually believe the general masses – or I should say Met fans – take at face value all the spin the FO puts out there.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
masses
I doubt the general population of Mets fans cares who is or isn’t credentialed, and why. Or any of the spin really.
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Eh
Drastic declines in attendance say that they do pay attention and they do care.
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by Dandy Salderson on Feb 6, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
The bulk of attendance isn't made up of people on these blogs
And I can’t say I’d stop attending games because the Mets don’t want to credential a sportswriter I have no interest in reading (who the fuck brings up a Wright-to-Phillies rumor on Christmas?). I can’t say I care at all.
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The thought leaders are on these blogs
And they set the mood for the casual fans to follow. If Jeff Wilpon is still picking fights with people who buy ink (pixels?) by the barrel, the sentiment around the team and the regard with which the team is held absolutely trickles down to the mainstream.
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by Dandy Salderson on Feb 6, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
trickle
is the optimal word. Also, few of those mainstream fans are listening right now, and will be much more swayed by the “Did you see that MAMMOTH home run Duda hit last night” video everyone retweets and and reposts in April than “Stupid Mets raised ATM fees” or something.
You’d be surprised how few fans even know who say David Einhorn or Picard are.
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IDK
have you actually listened to some of those calling in on WFAN? Sometimes they’re more rabid than those on mets.com’s boards.
I think more are aware than you think. It’s just that most times, they take one comment, one fact and run with it. Don’t often have all the facts.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Same quotes though
often appear in good old fashioned print though.
If I was close enough to attend games, the Wilpons as owners wouldn’t stop me, so I doubt who is allowed in the clubhouse would either.
It’s the whole image thing they’re trying to project. And they don’t like anyone calling them out on it. It’s that simple.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I have to disagree about the spin.
The blogs are filled daily with Met fans discussing, arguing, etc. with what comes out of the FO.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wish it was 1950
so I wouldn’t have to root for this chickenshit franchise anymore. I look at my two favorite sports franchises, and see that one of them just won their second championship in 5 years, while the other one is pretty much the biggest joke in sports right now, and it’s so, so easy to see the difference. One franchise has the Maras, the other has the Wilpons. And that’s all there is to it.
Time to update this: 2009 Did Not Happen. Neither did 2010. Or 2011. Sports suck.
by cjmulrain on Feb 7, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll probably get a lot of flack for this
But IMO, a fanbase that would prefer to engage in Yankee-Giant jealousy and bash their team constantly, with an undeniable air of elitism and self-entitlement doesn’t actually deserve to feel success.
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by piazza62 on Feb 7, 2012 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure I understand your response.
CJ is 100% right in that the Maras are far better owners than the Wilpons. Also, I don’t see the relationship between the Yankees and the Giants, and don’t understand the elitist and self-entitlement angle.
Other than that, your post is right on.
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by fxcarden on Feb 7, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Not sure where the elitism/self-entitlement part comes in
I don’t expect the Mets to win every year, and I wouldn’t like it if I did. I love the fact that the Mets have, historically, been lovable losers/underachievers, with brief flashes of miraculous play. That said, there’s nothing even remotely lovable about the current state of the franchise. I don’t want to root for the Yankees, but I do want to root for a franchise that doesn’t treat its fans, its players, and its history like crap. The Wilpons are an embarrassment.
Yes, I do have Giants “jealousy” as a Mets fan, because the Giants have great owners and the Mets have awful ones. Not sure there’s anything wrong with that, though – I’m jealous of every team that has good owners (or, more accurately, “owners that don’t actively sabotage their franchise”).
I like sports again. Thank you Tom & Eli. The Wilpons can still go suck it.
by cjmulrain on Feb 7, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I feel like I have to apologize for my comment
I still don’t agree with the gist of it, but I shouldn’t have taken out my anger so publicly like that. I wrote it after being bothered and prodded by an obnoxious Giants fan at work despite not actually caring about football, and just assumed all are like that.
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It's alright
I just think there’s a wide gap between wanting your team not to be a joke who keeps shooting themselves in the foot vs. being an elitist.
FWIW, I still love the players and the uniform, and just the other day I had a long conversation with my dad about how the Mets really should be better than everyone thinks this year bc their offense was better than anyone gave them credit for last year even w/o their best player (Ike), their bullpen should be a lot better, and there could be help on the way for the rotation. They almost certainly won’t be good, but the doom and gloom is a little much.
It just saddens me to know that no matter what happens, the Wilpons will still be in charge, and I just don’t see any way the Mets are ever going to have sustained success with the Wilpons in charge.
I like sports again. Thank you Tom & Eli. The Wilpons can still go suck it.
by cjmulrain on Feb 7, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats poor Mets, thats poor
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thats douchebaggery Mets, thats douchebaggery
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 6, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I guess the Mets figured it had been a month or so since the last bad PR
Can’t let that pass! The sad thing is that I’d normally be mad at something like this but instead i just thought “of course they would be this petty”
by FrancoTAU on Feb 6, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
One would have to wonder how.Jay Horowitz(PR Director) has kept his job as long as he has.The Mets have made
so many gaffes over the past 25 years Megdal could easily write another book on that.
by Putnan Prince on Feb 6, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Mr, Howrowitz can't change that fact that the Wilpons are thundering idiots.
by graves9 on Feb 6, 2012 8:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And why would he?
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 6, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Horowitz works for a paycheck and when the asshole upstairs say jump he asks "How high Mr.Wilpon?"
And lets be honest, most of us are in the same position with our jobs.
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 6, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
He's kept his job because the Wilpons are very loyal to their cronies, often to a fault.
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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 6, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Guess we'd have to say that Madoff was one of their cronies.They used to show Jay once in awhile in
his booth but they stopped it because he was sound asleep by the 4th inning.
by Putnan Prince on Feb 8, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely.
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Rarely do I use this meme
but Meet the Mess seems appropriate right about now.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 6, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Oh for god sake, this is such a non-story
You’ve been willing to break out that for months now. Anyone that does deserves to be banished from all things Mets.
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I don't think its the end of the world, but it isn't a non story.
It’s something that happens every couple of years and is rightly mocked.
oh i have? really?
uh…. no. try again.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 7, 2012 4:37 AM EST up reply actions
Non-story?
It’s a lot more than that.
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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just got a good cardiac workout
reading Pomes’ take on HM.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Just started twittering him.
“HM wrote a book of lies…deserves to lose his credentials.”
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well
#blamebeltran is gone so he had to latch onto someone for his next target.
Once the season starts, I’m sure he’ll pick on one of the starting 25 for his next victim. You know, someone who is actually contributing and is the least of their problems such as Dickey.
by MetsFan4Decades on Feb 6, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
If Pomes got a cardio workout, it wouldn't be pretty
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you're high on the organ donor list it might be a blessing in disguise
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 7, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Who wants those organs?
Probably would make things worse.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Trust me.If you need an organ desperately enough you will take one from Bin Laden.Been there!
by Putnan Prince on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Even a morbidly obese guy whose organs are of questionable quality?
I mean, if you need a heart transplant, or die, I can see why you’d take any heart, but then with all of the built up plaque and whatnot in the new heart, you’d just be having problems again.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 8, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Liver,kidneys,lungs,blood marrow.eyes,spleen,body tissue,ligaments, and more.Once we're
gone our cadavers can be harvested to save lives.Surgeons won’t do a transplant unless the organs are healthy.
by Putnan Prince on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but this is Pomes we're talking about
Especially his eyes. Who’d want to see things through his eyes?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 9, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Then again
Pomes strikes me as the type that wouldn’t be an organ donor out of sheer douchebaggery
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 7, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Over/Under if Fatcessa mentions this on his show tomorrow?
ESPN, Mike Francesa, NY Post, NY Daily News, Fox Sports = Propaganda
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Under.
He doesn’t care about HM only where his next lard sandwich comes from
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Feb 7, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Howard who?
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Howard Megdal is like that Al Albequeque guy
stop making shit up!
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by Aidan Gibson on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
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