Open Thread - NLCS Game 6: Mets vs Cardinals (10/18/2006) on FOX

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The team. The time. The playoffs. The contest.
Let's go Mets!
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Notes:
This is it. It's do or die. Fourth and inches. First and goal. The Mets have their backs against the wall. They're between a rock and a hard place. There's no turning back. They're down to their last chance. They've gotta lay it all on the line. All of their chips are on the table. Gotta leave it all out there on the field. It's only one game. Take it one game at a time. One inning at a time. One at-bat, one pitch at a time. Just go out there and execute their game plan. This is why they play the games folks. They're in it to win it. They're still very much alive. They're still in the mix. They have to run the table. They have to win out. They have to remember what got them here. They control their own destiny. This team has a chance to do something special. They're not just happy to be here. In the playoffs anything can happen. They have to do the things they've been doing all season. A win tonight will force a decisive game seven. They're behind the eight ball. They're in a must-win situation. They need a win to stave off elimination. This is for all the marbles. There's no tomorrow. If you lose, you go home. They're down but not out. It's go time.
(Thanks to The Sports Cliche List).
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There's no I in "Mets"
Great post, Eric.
A very George Carlin-esque riff
pitching matchup
He's also more consistent than Maine (i.e. Carpenter's variance is smaller than Maine's), but maybe we'll got lucky.
Let's go Mets! Let's go Maine!

by stats junkie on Oct 18, 2006 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
stats only tell you what is likely to
LEAD OFF HOME RUN
I love it !!!
by stats junkie on Oct 18, 2006 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"Variance Happens"
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
variance happened
Maine was predicted to strike out 16 percent of the batters he faced. He did great on that score -- he struck out 25 percent of the 20 batters he faced.
Unfortunately, Maine also walked 20 percent of the batters he faced. He was only expected to walk 7 percent.
Carpenter, on the other hand, hasn't been so deadly. He was predicted to strike out 19 percent of the batters he faced, but he only struck out 2 of the 21 batters he faced (10 percent).
As for walks, Carpenter was predicted to walk 4 percent. He hasn't given up a single one.
On balance, variance seems to have worked on our favor tonight.
by stats junkie on Oct 18, 2006 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
ok boys
screw matchups
...and the Fox anounce crew will suck forever no matter what.
Amen to that
Ya Gotta Believe !!!!
Let's get it on.
Suggestions for an enjoyable chat experience
If a Cardinals fan shows up looking to start trouble, in sheep's clothing or otherwise, either be polite or ignore them. No use getting all riled up.
Pinstripes tonight
I love that the Mets are in white and blue.
SAP
And they've just coined the term "los BoriMets." Awesome.
Never too late to ditch the gringos.
Maine
McCarver is a fool
dangerous
Nice of Gonzo to know how many out they are, moron
Fucking sweet
Woah
Blue caps: check. Pinstripes: check.
oops, wrong movie
LET'S GO METS!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
Jose Reyes, RBI Machine
RU KIdding ME ???
Our boys came to play
Thank you Jose Reyes
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
More runs please
Delgado postseason so far
Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Delgado.
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
Carpenter
May I not be proven right by future events
problem is
While true
he could reach the Cedeno Zone
Sit Down LaRussa stop fucking with our pitchers
So transparent
Runs, please.
So demanding
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I've got
LOL
I produced so many runs when I was living in Asia, I should be in the Hall of Fame.
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Green can still slap a hit here and there.
get em porn stache!
Olberman special comment on
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
perspective
(Still... another good reason to choose blue over red, here, there and everywhere.)
by Doc Manhattan on Oct 18, 2006 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah considering we
that steal probably bought Pujols
Maine
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
one walk
True that
Wish he could f*ing bunt, though.
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Say what you want
Pujols ball wasn't hit all that hard
Endy !!!
Endy
ND ND ND ND
He is useless with a bat in his hand
Get Endy and Jose on base
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
Workin' the count
Umpire
Seems ok so far
WTF you JellyBelly Bastard
argue about what
the fact the Reyes should probably get third
Presumably
What is Ronnie Belliard trying to do
Shawn Green making himself useful
Shawn Green
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Something happened to Green
Damn
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Baby steps
Anyone watching pitch counts?
was just wondering that
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Great play - nice poise.
McCarver is spouting his cocksuckery at
Didn't you love when...
That was precious.
That pitch wasn't good.
Buck
Don't short sell the man
More runs please.
Come on Carlos
Jelly Belly just thwarted Mr. Super Human Man.
Bad walk - but don't take him out yet!
last inning though
Fantastic job!
I support this move
Go bullpen. Go Mets.
Here here!
Honestly, I've been pretty happy with Willie's mopves this series - and I'm not a fan of Willie-ball.
I could go either way.
Bradford does the job
his body is falling apart
ChadBrad !!!
Nicely done
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
It was a great inning to get out of
More runs please.
Where did those wicked curveballs come from?
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd stick with Bradford here
Let Feliciano pitch to Duncan again?
ump is losing the strike zone again
just a reminder
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a big out right there
looking forward to Looper
OK - kooky move by Willie there.
very strange
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it better work
Wow
In Willie we trust.
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Like a charm.
Hm. Nothin'.
I think Willie was just scared of the
MOTA
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
BAM! BAM!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Nice call willie
You think Mota will?
Helis for the 8th no?
True...
by Mikeybags84 on Oct 18, 2006 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
His gut
But his gut's right a lot, so.
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Runs off the Joker, please.
Pooper Scooper Looper
Looper
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Tucker?
Nah - you gotta save him for a bigger spot.
Ok, it worked out
Tucker always has that look like
He always looks like
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Jose
"By guessing right
Okay, wtf?
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Blah blah blah
That's Loopy's favorite move.
Come on Dookie
Sorry fellas
Me too!
by Mikeybags84 on Oct 18, 2006 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't forget his good quotes
Paulie Dukes!
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dookie
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
don't think the Bio works there
Details, details
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah PLD
Eckstein would have had that one
yeah like a third pedal in a car baby
Heh
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Props to Tucker
Man, Loopy was up to his knuckle there.
Rolen
They'll throw him under the bus to make
yeah because they love TLR
McCarver
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
thats about sums it up
Dookie could be in that Prison Break show.
Eckstein looks like someone slathered some
I hate his sneer
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
156 games a year or so
Barry Bonds 2000-2
Could Tucker be Dave Roberts from 2004?
No, no he can not.
Yeah booiiieeee !!
Question
he hasn't pitched
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
too bad that
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe that's what they call
that's true
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott Linebrink
Heilman was
Looks like they will
I'm sure Willie wants to give him a chance
Yeah, go with Wags
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
No way would I use Wags for 2
I'd think
Anything's possible.
All hands are on deck tomorrow...
He's got to preserve the shut out.
Is it ironic
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
LTR says, "Get me Rex Kramer!"
exit light
take my hand
off to never never land
by Rod Gaspar Fan Club on Oct 18, 2006 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
C'MON WAGS
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
O-BLUE-terate them!
You rock
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Godammit
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Wagner is in a SAVE OPPORTUNITY
How could Billy throw Rolen a slider
Wagner = Looper = Benitez =
He getting $43 million for right now
I need more booze
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Just look at the crowd
Gah, and Wright does yet another trademark late inning throwing error! Good thing Delgado was ready for it.
I do.
... oh really?
Yas, dahling, rally I do.
Beltran
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
Nice "message" throw by Beltran.
So Taguchi
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
WOT the FOCK!
FUCK YOU SO TAGUCHI
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
It's official
Drinking drinking drinking
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
THANK YOU JESUS
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
I'm dizzy, but giddy
Put in the books.
Put it in the books!
LETS GO METS!!!
finally
hopefully got it out of system tonight
your mouth to
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
May the ghost of Joaquin Andujar
John Maine
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
NO FUCKING JOY IN THIS
I'm incensed.
if there is no joy in this
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you so
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Umpires?
They KNOW this is an entertainment product
I'm here to tell them THEY ARE FAILING. The best they can do is act like a machine. And the best we can do is replace them with some.
Jeebus - are they really playing
I guess Pooh Holes MVP and pondscum
you so und like you are guarding
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Warriors!
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
stress much?
If he comes in tomorrow night, I'm done. I can't take it.
he clearly had
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm also glad
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Game 6: Mission Accomplished

Met Rally Monkey + Rockies Rally Squirrel: 1-0!
Here. We. Come.
Well done
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Willie announces
I actually agree with that - D. Oliver can come out of the bullpen, unlike Perez.
Fuck fuck fuck, fingers crossed.
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
willie seems so relaxed
He's always relaxed
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
What will those 2 runs mean?
Prolly not. But, what is the impact of a shutout in Game 6? I tend to think scoring those 2 runs late gives them hope for tomorrow. Had they been shutout, they'd be asleep in an NYC hotel wondering why their bats went cold at such a bad time.
Ah well.
don't really think
by elifriedman on Oct 18, 2006 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wagners words
The score was still 4-0, and so the runs meant nothing. I wanted them to try and get themselves out. There was no reason for me to do anything else. I didn't want to get picky and start putting guys on base. I wanted to go right after them. I wanted to make them hit my pitch if they could. I put myself in the hole late in the count with hanging breaking balls.
Wagner isn't going to replace Lupica anytime soon, but I do like the "articles" he has in the NY Post. I am sure it is more like an extended phone interview with the questions deleted, but he doesn't have a PC filter on his mouth.
The articles may end up saving him from the masses b/c they provide his side of the story in a way that Blownitez, Franco, and Looper never did.
With that said, he will be destroyed if he blows a game 7 save.
by pj on Oct 19, 2006 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe.
Profound, huh?
You've been reading
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Either that or I've heard too much of
if Card got any momentum
He doesn't like Taguchi for some reason.
Cards fans seem to hate him
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 18, 2006 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Taguchi
He's 37?
Never mind.
Now, what's all this about violins in schools? What's wrong with violins in schools?
"Young girl, violins
Name that tune...
by Billy Everyteen on Oct 19, 2006 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yo pj
fucking flight
my lady and i went to a japanese restaurant (no tv) near the airport while we waited for his plane. I caught about 90 seconds of the game on WFAN (750 miles from NYC!), but it was too much static to impose on company. i got back in time to see the highlights on baseball tonight.
Visiting scientist is giving a lecture tomorrow at 8pm and I am one of the hosts and designated AV nerd. I'll get to a TV in time for the post game celebration.
I admire your dedication.
no can dooh
no can poo
full o shit
indian shopkeeper: "not in my store you don't"
Ever notice that no matter who wins
And for Game 7 John Kruk picks....
missed the game
I am not watching tomorrow either. I love the mets so much, I may never see another game.
Irony!
This is kinda funny
how many times do see David Eckstein
make a great play on defense
then come up and lead off with a 2-run home run!
by mdhoffm2 on Wed Oct 18, 2006 at 10:37:51 PM EST
lead off 2-run jack
Just got home from Shea
I was hoping for Darren Oliver tomorrow, but Perez should be OK.
so,
The crowd where I was (mezzanine behind the RF foul pole) was actually not as fired up as I expected at a crucial playoff game. I mean, for the first two innings everyone was standing up for every two-strike count, but by the fifth people were trying to start The Wave. The Wave. In NLCS Game 6, with a two-run lead, and Carinal runners all over the basepaths. I don't understand people sometimes. The energy when the Mets got something going was incredible, of course, but there was also a lot of free-floating anger coming out in weird places, like arguing ball and strike calls from 450 feet away (de rigeur for the Bud-Lite-addled man, I know, but still ridiculous). I myself actually lost my voice around the third inning, I was screaming so hard.
Chris Carpenter deserves a lot of credit for this game. I saw upthread that someone wrote "where did those incredible curveballs come from?" in the 4th or 5th, and I was thinking the exact same thing in the stands. It was obvious from far, far away that he froze a few Mets (Valentin stands out in my memory) with a couple of knee-bucklers there.
On the flip side, so does John Maine. He's really composed, almost imperturbable. My impression (TV viewers, confirm or deny) was that he seemed to have a lot of problems with his control of his secondary pitches, which allowed the Cardinal hitters to sit on the fastball (since anything else was pretty far off the plate). But he gutted it out and recorded a really fine performance. I think he's a big leaguer for good now.
The one really questionable Willie Randolph decision was (obviously enough) bringing in Mota to face the lefty power threat Chris Duncan. It worked out fine in the event, but you really could question why he didn't go to a left-hander there. I was under the strong impression this meant Darren Oliver would be starting tomorrow, since he'd be the natural choice with Feliciano tired from yesterday. But apparently I haven't caught up with the twists and turns of Willie-ball yet. You won't hear me complaining tonight, though.
We're too far in to back off now. Game 7 is ours. Or maybe that's the sleep deprivation talking.




























