Open Thread - Game 70: Mets vs Reds (06/20/2006) on SNY

by Eric Simon on Jun 20, 2006 6:18 PM EDT

The Mets lost their third straight home opener last night. The Phillies are now a stone's throw out of first at eight-and-a-half back. The Whalers are NHL champs. Has the whole world gone mad?

Let's go Mets!

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it's quiet around here

the last few days. Are we becoming complacent? Or bored? Does it have to do with the summer weather? Surely there's something left to talk about, like how boring interleague play has become and how much it needs to die already, with the exception of the real rivalry matchups.

by anonymous on Jun 20, 2006 7:13 PM EDT reply actions

i've been sick as hell

and really busy to boot. Not bored though, this is fun :)

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Things will pick up again

as we near the playoffs, if not sooner. But right now, we are contented enough; we're as much of a lock for the playoffs as we can get at this part of the year (which isn't that much of course), and there's not much to rant and rave about when even 'stache is looking major league.

I would like us to hit 15 hits this game, as our team BA is wilting a bit. But that isn't a crisis.

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll take your 15 hits...

...and raise you one. 16 hits - 9 doubles!

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

That's two doubles already!

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

another bites the dust

trying to run on Lastings

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 7:15 PM EDT reply actions

What are the Mets outfield assist numbers?

(Whoo-hoo! Another lead-off double!)

Chavez and Milledge have 11 assists combined in limited play. That's great. Are the Mets leading the league? If not, the "bench" must be.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

20 OF assists

for the Mets according

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Just as I was thinking maybe he ought to be sent

down for playing time, he does something like that.

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

What happened here?

Bottom 1ST B:2 S:2 O:1
Carlos Beltran grounds out, pitcher Elizardo Ramirez to second baseman Brandon Phillips to first baseman Scott Hatteberg. Paul Lo Duca to 3rd.

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:26 PM EDT reply actions

CARLOS!

DELGADO!

by The Wright Stuff on Jun 20, 2006 7:27 PM EDT reply actions

Good ol' sac flys

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

And good 'ol first inning runs

Maybe Trax can hold the lead.

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe...

...but I'm not putting any money on it.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Did Willie learn his lesson?

Let's see, last night, Reyes led off with a double, and LoDuca bunted. LoDuca bunted in the bottom of the 1st with Beltran, Delgado, and Wright coming up. Playing for one run. In the 1st inning. Against the Reds' offense. With your #5 starter on the mound (El Duque pitched fine, of course). I wanted to punch out my TV screen.

Tonight, Reyes led off with a double again. Instead of wasting LoDuca, Paulie was allowed to swing away, and the Mets got themselves a hit instead of an out, and they scored 3 runs instead of 1. Did Willie learn his lesson? I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.

It just keeps getting better....

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 20, 2006 7:36 PM EDT reply actions

Hope you are right

I am not a fan of Willie-ball, and one of the reasons is that I think he sacrifices far too often. If today's first inning is an indication that he is learning to cherish all of the 27 outs his team gets, then I'm happy.

Of course, if the game is tied in the bottom of the eight, and he has Duke bunt with Reyes on base with no outs....

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions

according to Howie

the sac bunt last night was entirely Lo Duca's call, not Willie's.

by anonymous on Jun 20, 2006 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions

That's how you get playing time.

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice start.

And for the Phils/Yanks, I have such a hard time rooting for the Yanks, even tho I want them to win. I still find myself cheering when the Phils go and put 3 on em in the 1st. Anyone else having conflict?

"They win the damn thing by a score of 10-9!"

by ZaBlanc on Jun 20, 2006 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

I Cheer for the Yanks

when they play the Phils (this year) and the Braves (all the time). The only time I have trouble cheering for the Braves to lose is when they play the Sox. In those cases, I hope their players get hurt, and I don't care who wins.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

I'm rooting for the Yanks in this series too...but I sitll find myself rooting for the Phils secretly.

"They win the damn thing by a score of 10-9!"

by ZaBlanc on Jun 20, 2006 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't hate the Phillies enough

I tried to reason with myself that the Yankees winning would be a good thing, but my irrational sports fan side won out, so I was happy when the Phils won, and I'm happy that the Phils are winning right now. If the Mets continue to take care of business, the Phils taking a 3-game set from the Yankees shouldn't mean much come September/October.

As for the upcoming Braves-Yankees series, I'll be satisfied knowing one of them has to lose each game. Speaking of the Braves....go Blue Jays!

It just keeps getting better....

by Greenpoint Ian on Jun 20, 2006 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Ryan Feel

Against the Mets, this guy is like Pat Burrell, but with singles.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

a homeless man's

pat burrell

by The Wright Stuff on Jun 20, 2006 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

Nice

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions

sportsguy line

dont kill me :)

by The Wright Stuff on Jun 20, 2006 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I know it.

but I ain't hateful. It's a fine addition to the english language.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Trax thinks he's Benson!

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 8:31 PM EDT reply actions

81 pitches so far

So does Trax go 8, or...9 innings?

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 8:47 PM EDT reply actions

6 innings...

by The Wright Stuff on Jun 20, 2006 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm trying to figure this out

But why is no one up in the bullpen getting warm? We're a HR away from a tie game, and a base hit from a real interesting finish to this game.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 8:54 PM EDT reply actions

Jeez

I thought Steve had more than no-thirds of an inning left. Crap.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah Willie

You're such a terrible manager of the bullpen, it's ridiculous and expected that you would try and screw this up.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

Why worry

5-4-3 from the DP machine

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Why even give them the chance to get

back into the game?

I don't begrudge Willie letting Trachsel try for a batter...but there should have been a guy up and warming just in case. Then with two on and no outs, go right to the bullpen and maybe our lead is still 3 runs.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

if Heilman was pitching well

Would he pitching in this spot vs. Sanchez

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:02 PM EDT reply actions

I think you are correct

Heils has been iffy. Willie can't send him out in that situation the way he's been pitching. besides, that why Omar got Sanchez.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

DP!

A close shave!

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 9:03 PM EDT reply actions

at this point

Willie just has the midas touch

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:04 PM EDT reply actions

classic Stormy

walking the leadoff man

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:08 PM EDT reply actions

Indeed

We missed you, David!

...

Well, not really.

by StuckInGA on Jun 20, 2006 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Welcome back, X

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 9:09 PM EDT reply actions

X-rated

Why does anyone ever throw him an early count inside fastball

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:10 PM EDT reply actions

X-Man

I am back, bitches!

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 9:10 PM EDT reply actions

I guess Weathers wanted to send a message

to his replacement?

(So jealous of Sanchez he hits him?)

by peeder on Jun 20, 2006 9:13 PM EDT reply actions

he has no command

right now. Gary thinks he's hurt. The fact that Narron is leaving him to get smoked says what you need to know about the Reds bullpen situtation

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Reds

could just be raising the white flag for this one.

by StuckInGA on Jun 20, 2006 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Lo Duca

Floodgates, consider yourselves open.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 9:16 PM EDT reply actions

Time for Dub

David, there's the coffin, here's a hammer and nails. You know what to do!

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions

what is Pedro doing?

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:20 PM EDT reply actions

Decided to log in ... I hope

Sanchez's finger isn't hurt too badly. So far Heilman doing OK here. It probably helps that we've got a 6-run lead.

by BlueYonder on Jun 20, 2006 9:28 PM EDT reply actions

Manny Acta

You are bat-shit crazy.

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions

Hay I like Valentin

What the hell is Manny doing. Maybe Jose wanted to get blocked off the plate by his brother.

end the madness.stop the war

by elifriedman on Jun 20, 2006 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Griffey played that like a contained

avian flu or something. Manny Acta is a nutcase.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions

well, if everything gets hit like that

then we haven't seen the end of this game yet, and we won't until there are two digits on the Mets side of the scoreboard at least.

by anonymous on Jun 20, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions

X-Man

I AM BACK, bitches (Again)

"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-

by future on Jun 20, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions

Nady ain't getting pushed out so easy

By Blastings.

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:35 PM EDT reply actions

the Braves pitching staff

should be declare a disaster by FEMA

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:39 PM EDT reply actions

Mets Win!!

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions

Ryan Howard

has driven in all 7 runs. The last two off Mike Myers.Phils lead 7-5. That kid is a tremendous hitting talent.

end the madness.stop the war

by elifriedman on Jun 20, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

can't field for shit though

its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win

by DoctorK16 on Jun 20, 2006 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions

What, nobody wanted to comment

on Trax's HR? Was at the game tonight - good fun. I went in expecting us to lose vs. a young up-and-comer with good off-speed and breaking stuff, but we stomped 'em. And X-man made a pretty definitive statement.

And Steve Trachsel hit a freakin' home run!!!

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 20, 2006 11:35 PM EDT reply actions

Or, I might add

the fact that Trax worked the best AB of the game. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, ya damn hippies.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 20, 2006 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Also, while I'm on a role

'Stache's almost-inside-the-parker was hi-larious. It's fun to be able to laugh about things like that. Man I love this team.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 20, 2006 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Er, "roll"

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 21, 2006 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

As I said here, and to my brother on the phone...

...Trax was doing a Kris Benson imitation.

Terrific game. Never would have figured Steve to be the stopper. X-man coming back with authority helped. Willie has a damned good team this year - bench and starters. Everynight, someone is gonna havea good night. Sometimes, it'll be four or five of them. Awesome.

by IanB in MD on Jun 20, 2006 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions

That's just it

Somebody commented back in April or May that this offense was "slump-proof." So you immediately start pounding on wood but it looks pretty accurate so far. There's just so much talent in this lineup. and I'm really glad Nady's back to be a part of it.

"He even tried to pimp it," Floyd said. "He's got no pimp." Said Wright: "I don't even know what that means."

by Billy Everyteen on Jun 21, 2006 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions