The Top 50 Mets of All Time: #41 Bobby Jones

Year Team Lg Age Lvl IP ERA H/9 BB/9 SO/9 --------------------------------------------------------------- 1991 Columbia SAL 21 A 24.1 1.85 7.40 1.11 12.95 1992 Binghamton East 22 AA 158.0 1.88 6.72 2.45 8.15 1993 Norfolk IL 23 AAA 166.0 3.63 8.08 1.73 6.83Jones advanced to Double-A Binghamton in 1992 and was fairly overpowering there as well. He struck out more than eight batters per game and walked fewer than two-and-a-half. Jones progressed naturally to Triple-A Norfolk in 1993 as a 23-year-old, where his walk rate improved but his strikeout rate began to dip. His earned run average almost doubled against tougher competition, but the Mets felt he had learned all he was going to in the minor leagues and called him up in the middle of August to replace the recently-disabled Bret Saberhagen.
Jones made his big league debut on August 14, 1993, and picked up a victory against the Phillies. He allowed seven hits and five runs (one earned) over six innings, but was supported by two homeruns and four runs batted in by second-baseman Tim Bogar. Jones started nine games in August and September, going 2-4 with a 3.65 ERA, including ten innings of shutout ball in his final start (Jones earned a no-decision but the Mets won 1-0 on an RBI double by Jeff Kent to drive in Eddie Murray).
Year Age IP ERA H HR BB SO ERA+ WARP3 SNLVAR ------------------------------------------------------------- 1993 23 61.2 3.65 61 6 22 35 108 0.5 1.1 1994 24 160.0 3.15 157 10 56 80 133 4.4 3.7 1995 25 195.2 4.19 209 20 53 127 100 2.5 3.5 1996 26 195.2 4.42 219 26 46 116 89 3.1 4.0 1997 27 193.1 3.63 177 24 63 125 111 4.2 5.4 1998 28 195.1 4.05 192 23 53 115 103 3.6 4.1 1999 29 59.1 5.61 69 3 11 31 78 0.6 0.7 2000 30 154.2 5.06 171 25 49 85 86 1.9 3.3Jones was very effective in 24 starts with the Mets in 1994, going 12-7 and sporting an ERA 33% better than the league. He averaged just one strikeout every two innings, but he kept his walk and homerun rates down and featured a 12-6 sloooow curve that kept opposing hitters off-balance. His season -- and everyone else's -- was cut short on August 12 as a result of the players' association strike that would eventually lead to the cancellation of the World Series. Jones's 3.15 ERA was good for seventh in the National League, and it might have been even better were it not for extremely pronounced home/road splits (4.25 ERA at Shea Stadium, 1.77 ERA on the road).

Jones began the 1999 season with three straight wins, allowing zero, one, and two runs respectively. He followed that up with three no-decisions, allowing three, five, and three runs respectively. Then things fell apart as he lost the subsequent three starts after allowing eight, seven, and five runs respectively, lasting just 2.2 innings in the latter. Jones complained after the game of having "dead arm" and said that his pitching shoulder had been bothering him for a few days. The injury was labeled "shoulder tendonitis", and Jones was expected to miss at least one start. Reality failed to converge with expectation, and Jones was placed on the disabled list a few days later with a right shoulder strain.
A week after hitting the disabled list, Jones underwent an MRI that revealed a strained rotator cuff, not shoulder tendonitis as was originally diagnosed. Expected to miss a couple of weeks, Jones eventually missed more than two-and-a-half months before returning for a rehab assignment in the second week of August. He made three starts at Double-A Binghamton and another two at Triple-A Norfolk before heading back to the big club in September. He made three relief appearances down the stretch but was ultimately left off of the Mets' postseason roster that year.
The bullpen work was just a blip, as Jones was assured by General Manager Steve Phillips that he would return to the rotation in 2000. After playing two games in the Tokyodome in Japan to begin the season the Mets returned home to play the Padres. Jones made the team's "real" opening day start and was battered around, allowing four runs and six hits in just 2.2 innings. He allowed seven more runs (six earned) over four innings in his next start and the head-scratching began in earnest. In his third start, Jones strained his calf muscle in the first inning and left without retiring a batter. He would land on the 15-day disabled list and make two rehab starts at Norfolk before rejoining the team a month later.
After eight starts Jones had an ERA of 10.19 and, seeing no other option, the Mets asked Jones to accept an assignment to Norfolk to work on some things. As a player with five years of big league experience, Jones had the right to refuse such an assignment. The Mets assured him that the demotion was just a tune-up and that after a couple of starts he would be back with the big club. Jones accepted the assignment, made two minor league starts, and returned a little more than a week later. Jones went 10-4 the rest of the way with a 4.05 ERA and the Mets cruised into the playoffs as the National League Wild Card winner, slated to square off against the Giants in the Divisional Series.
The Mets and Giants split the first two games in San Francisco and the Mets took a 2-1 series lead in Game 3 on the strength of Benny Agbayani's 13th inning walk-off homerun. That set the stage for Jones in Game 4, and what followed was arguably the best postseason pitching performance in the history of the franchise. An unlikely hero, Jones dominated the Giants from start to finish, hurling a one-hit complete game shutout to give the Mets the series victory. Jones allowed just the one hit -- a 5th inning double to Jeff Kent -- and a lone walk to J.T. Snow in the same frame; he retired the Giants in order in every other inning. The win carried the Mets into the League Championship Series to face the Cardinals.
Jones made two more starts that postseason, neither impressive. He allowed six runs in four innings in Game 4 of the LCS, a game the Mets would eventually win 10-6. He started -- and lost -- Game 4 of the World Series against the Yankees, allowing three earned runs in five innings.
Jones would leave as a free agent following the 2000 season, signing with the Padres and pitching poorly for two years before calling it quits. Jones was an effective workhorse for a half-dozen of his eight seasons in New York, and he started more games in the nineties than any other Mets' pitcher. While his overall value with the club rests with his ability to eat innings, his legacy will always be Game 4 of the 2000 LDS
Sources
Bobby Jones at Baseball-Reference.com
Bobby Jones at Baseball Prospectus
Bobby Jones at The Baseball Cube
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hmm.
My second reaction was to think of that 2000 Division Series game, which was in my opinion probably the best-pitched game in Mets history (factoring in the quality of the opposition and the importance of the game), and which was also probably the best-pitched game I've personally watched from start to finish. And then I thought, okay, he belongs on this list just for that game alone.
So I'm kind of on the fence about Bobby's legitimacy here -- since it's not a list of "best moments" but rather "best Mets," maybe he doesn't really belong on this list. But that game is sure a good moment to think back on during a cold winter.
by anonymous on Jan 29, 2007 12:38 PM EST 0 recs
Yea
This also isn't a "best moments" or "best performances" list, lest Todd Pratt or Benny Agbayani appear on the list. Or, as someone on another board suggested, Nolan Ryan be included exclusively because of his performance in Game 3 of the '69 LCS.
by Eric Simon on
Jan 29, 2007 2:25 PM EST
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really?
by anonymous on
Jan 29, 2007 2:33 PM EST
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Yes
The Mets as a franchise do not have a lot of postseason experience to draw from, and I have trouble elevating or penalizing a player dramatically based on so few games. A particularly great postseason performance might nudge a player in one direction, but it certainly wouldn't be enough to account for a ten spot difference that would have landed Jones off of this list entirely.
by Eric Simon on
Jan 29, 2007 2:45 PM EST
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interesting
by anonymous on
Jan 29, 2007 3:18 PM EST
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postseason Performance
I, for one, think that the current system is a fun, yet silly, way of picking a champion. The rules, however, are the rules and as it stands some games are worth much. much more than others.
by Shomov on
Jan 29, 2007 9:28 PM EST
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Game 4
by dissento on Jan 29, 2007 5:40 PM EST 0 recs
Bobby J
As to how to factor in postseason performances in this list, it would seem pretty difficult. Of course, it's far more significant as a general matter for a player's Mets career to have thrown, say a one-hit shutout in the LDS (or close out close games down the stretch), than on the last day of the 1992 season. We all can and will make our own value adjustments based on that (Armando Benitez, I'm talking to you). But to put a precise numerical value on postseason performance, especially when comparing players with such differentials in opportunities in that regard, may be overly ambitious.
Heck, Ted Williams played poorly in his only World Series performance in 1946, and Ernie Banks never even made it. They're still all-time, all-time greats. Even if Jim Leyritz ("The [self-proclaimed] King") hit a few homers in the postseason.
by esl3m on Jan 30, 2007 12:01 AM EST 0 recs
Jones v. Martinez
by Shomov on Jan 30, 2007 8:53 AM EST 0 recs
Gotta love Retrosheet
That's box score, via Retrosheet:
http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B06030NYN1997.htm
Interestingly, this was the second straight Martinez vs. Jones match-up. The one a week earlier was a little more one sided, though not in favor of the pitcher you'd think it was:
by jalsonmi on
Feb 2, 2007 3:33 PM EST
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