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Open Thread - Game 95: Mets vs. Dodgers (07/19/2007) on SNY

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Source: mlb.com

Tale of the tape:

Glavine Lowe
ERA 4.15 3.05
FIP 4.88 3.43
K/9 4.22 6.63
BB/9 2.91 2.71
K/BB 1.45 2.45
HR/9 1.09 0.54
WHIP 1.30 1.23
BABIP .267 .293
eBABIP 0.333 0.286

Que se dillio:

Tough four game series here against the first place Dodgers. I'd say a 2-2 split would be optimistic. The Mets have to hope to win the games against Hendrickson and Tomko because Penny and Lowe have been very good this year.

Check out my Up Next piece for a full statistical breakdown of Los Dodgers.

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Check out True Blue L.A. for discussion of this game from the point-of-view of the opponent.

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what will come first
Tom Glavine's 300th win or Barry Bonds' 756th homer. I would say Barry's will come first. It may come in the Cub series especially if the wind is blowing out at Wrigley
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

correction
Bonds plays his next three at Milwaukee a good hitter's park. It would be ironic if he breaks it in Bud Selig's backyard
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 9:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably 756
For all we know Barry could break the record tomorrow, but the earliest Tommy will be able to do it is Tuesday. Besides, Bonds is "well-rested" now.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 9:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's a frightening statistic:
The Mets are 9-38 in games where they allow 4 or more runs this season.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Wake up Jose
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh, Jose
You're killin' me. That was bad.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:13 PM EDT   0 recs

He's had his share of bonehead
plays and just had another one. Nice hit for DW
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reyes
should have been home by now
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:14 PM EDT   0 recs

did he not hear the ball put in play
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Again !!!
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reyes is out of his mind today
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Clutch
Okay, not two outs, but who wasn't expecting a DP? Maybe anybody but Wright at this point.
Talkin' Sports

by BlackOps on Jul 19, 2007 10:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Good piece of hitting
to lift a sinker for a double.

by thriller216 on Jul 19, 2007 10:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What did Reyes do?
I look here as MLB.tv loads up and see people saying Jose did something wrong, but then it comes on and he's scoring.....what happened?

by Mikeybags84 on Jul 19, 2007 10:18 PM EDT   0 recs

on
Anderson single he was stealing. He didn't see that Anderson had hit the ball so he slide into 2nd and couldn't go to third. The on Wrights double he was stealing third and did the same thing, and this time he kind of got up and walked back toward second so he had to touch 3rd again and barely scored in front of Anderson.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoo?
Marlon Anderson?  Well I'll be.
CAN SOMEONE TEACH BELTRAN HOW TO GET A GOD D***ED RBI?!?!

by ZaBlanc on Jul 19, 2007 10:20 PM EDT   0 recs

it's good to see him
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hippo
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:21 PM EDT   0 recs

need to see
more of him
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 10:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Green
Matt Kemp has been attending the Shawn Green school of RF play.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Holy crap!
Working good AB's, getting their pitch, driving the ball....who are these guys?!?

by Mikeybags84 on Jul 19, 2007 10:26 PM EDT   0 recs

I need More Gotay too
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:27 PM EDT   0 recs

The 2007 Mets have finally arrived
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Ain't this some shit
Now THIS is more like it. Tommy gets to bat before taking the mound.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow
It's weird...I don't even know how to feel right now.  It seems like it's been so long since the Mets have jumped out to a comfortable early lead, but there have been so many times allowing first inning runs without scoring themselves...Is it weird for me to still not feel comfortable with it?  Ha...

by Mikeybags84 on Jul 19, 2007 10:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Ugh
Tommy isn't helping matters here the way he's pitching...

by Mikeybags84 on Jul 19, 2007 11:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you score runs, they will blog
10:00 game on a Thursday night, and we're on pace for 504 comments.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Gary
If Pierre doesn't walk enough to hit 1st he doesn't walk enough to he 2nd.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Jeez
Martin tagged that ball. I thought he popped it up.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Green
Oh My Green getting an outfield assist.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Ron
Is Ron suggesting that Nomar was a steroid guy?
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:45 PM EDT   0 recs

I know the Dodgers had been struggling
offensively for a long time, but their lineup sure has some formidable bats. Kent, Nomar, Pierre, Furcal, Martin, Gonzo...
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Dodger bat
Well Pierre is hardly a formidable bat, he's probably the worse regular in all of baseball. Furcal hasn't performed as well he has in Atlanta. Nomar has an OPS this year 651.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah
A lot of the names are more impressive than the talent at this point. Reminds me a lot of us in 2002.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the worst regular
isn't that a bit of an overstatement
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pierre
he has a 655 OPS. Ok he's better than Adam Kennedy, but he's awful and massively overpaid.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't remember where I read it
but apparently the Dodgers have been hitting way above average since Bill Mueller took over for Eddie Murray as hitting coach.  My guess is that they are ready for a regression to the mean.  Good, but not great, lineup.  Sorta like the Mets.

by thriller216 on Jul 19, 2007 11:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

On paper
Mets lineup is considerably better.
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's so weird
to think that Bill Mueller is the Dodgers' hitting coach. He's 36, but since he just retired it's unusual to see him on a ML staff so quickly.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In which respect?
The Dodgers have scored more runs than the Mets to this point in the season and have allowed only 5 more runs.  Their lineup is only slightly better, and recently, at least according to what I read today, and I'm sorry I can't recall the source for you, were doing much better than they had been early in the season.  My point is that their recent performance is probably not indicative of how good they really are, but they've probably been playing better than usual of late.  Hence the regression to the mean.  That's all.  Please know I've read your recent posts and this is not meant to pick a fight, but to explain what I meant.  Peace and Go Mets!

   

by thriller216 on Jul 19, 2007 11:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh boy
Doesn't look like Glavine has it tonight.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 10:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Tommy
Tommy has nothing. Time for bullpen action.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 10:59 PM EDT   0 recs

oh brother
Tommy really sucks tonite wasting a big lead before the 2nd inning is over. Looks like Sele time is coming
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:02 PM EDT   0 recs

What's going on, did someone
stick pins in a Glavine bobblehead or something? The top of the 1st was so thrilling. Now I can't believe what I'm seeing.

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:04 PM EDT   0 recs

ok Wilie
get that bullpen going. I would be shocked if he gets past 5
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:04 PM EDT   0 recs

very difficult
having a pitcher like Glavine whose performance is so dependent on who the home plate umpire is.
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:09 PM EDT   0 recs

And after two innings, Glavine
has thrown more pitches than Lowe. (55 to 54). Incredible. Lowe appears to have settled down.

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Apparently the Dodgers have
the ancient video game, RBI Baseball, in their visitors' clubhouse. If you go to YouTube (you know how I am with links), there's an incredible reenactment of the end of World Series Game 6 using RBI Baseball. It's awesome.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:14 PM EDT   0 recs

i wasted a lot of time as a kid playing that
game. The games would be 30-28.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm late to the party, I know
But here's a link to that video for those who haven't seen it. http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/04/1986_world_series_game_6_reena.html
aka Rob

by The Irresistable Force on Jul 20, 2007 9:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotay just looks like a hitter
gotta get him lots of playing time though his fielding is suspect. Nothing's perfect
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Which pitcher wants to lose this game more?
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:19 PM EDT   0 recs

ok Marlon
certainly an improvement over Franco
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:20 PM EDT   0 recs

and Newhan
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, right after I said Lowe had settled down
(and Gary echoed the comment), we began battering him again. How long has it been since we scored 9 runs?

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:23 PM EDT   0 recs

June 24 vs. Oakland
Nearly a month, as Jeff Kunt knocks one out. Unbelievable.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks, yeah, I see we ended up
scoring 10 altogether against the A's, and Maine had a great outing. Of course, the Dodgers are different. I didn't expect us to score more than 3 or 4 tonight.  

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glavine must be taken out
Willie has to get off his ass. This is ridiculous. I think Glaving lost his edge by getting that early lead. Shouldn't happen to a veteran
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:27 PM EDT   0 recs

no Glavine just has nothing tonight I think
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

your guess is as good as mine
regardless, he should be outta there NOW
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Please, NOW
Tying run at the plate with 0 outs!!!!!
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FINALLY
but Aaron Sele is not inspiring confidence. It's gonna be a bumpy night.
Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

just checking but
I assume the no at the beginning of the sentence means you don't agree with my comment, but you "think" he as nothing is a true understatement.
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by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hitting in the top of the 1st
and then running the bases in the top of this inning surely didn't help. But this has gone too far. Enter Sele!
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tommy has been so inconsistent this year.
I read an article where he supposedly said it's been tough for him without Pedro, i.e. he likes Pedro to take the spotlight off him, he likes the energy and optimism Pedro brings to the team, and so on. Glavine said something along the lines that sometimes when he performs poorly, it's psychological. But tonight, I'm with Doc -- it looked like he just simply had nothing.

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:41 PM EDT   0 recs

certain teams he can dominate
others eat him up.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is some game
We're finally one-third of the way through, an hour and 40 minutes in.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Dodgers
Are a bad fundamental team, nice job by Sele.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:42 PM EDT   0 recs

yes,
they usually are poor on fundamentals.
Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Aflac trivia question
asks for the three 300-game winners who pitched for the Mets. Seaver, Ryan, Spahn.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:44 PM EDT   0 recs

18 seconds beat me by
that was an easy one
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was
Bill Webb is merciful sometimes.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Quiz
Seaver, Ryan and Warren Spahn are the answers to quiz.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Mets should keep the pressure up
offensively cause I think they're gonna need those tack on runs
Save America. Impeach Bush

by elifriedman on Jul 19, 2007 11:47 PM EDT   0 recs

So, people seem excited about the impending
return of Alou. (For awhile there, it seemed he was not coming back this season.) I'd like to also get Endy back for what he can contribute, but I read his hamstring injury is worse than first thought? Any projection on when Endy might be back?

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Willie
was saying he hasn't done anything baseball wise. Maybe late August at this point. Alou is a necessary addition to the ball club. His production is sorely missed.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't trying to say Endy was as valuable as
Alou, just that I'll be glad when he's back to help give any of our starting outfielders rest, and so on.

by Max in NJ on Jul 19, 2007 11:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks like Ronnie
has been keeping in tune with his old-school: "Juan Pierre plays the game right, almost hustling and never half-steppin'."
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 19, 2007 11:55 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah too bad he
well sucks
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 19, 2007 11:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

*Always hustling*
Not that it matters...never a dull moment with this pitching tonight. Sleep will be scarce again.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 20, 2007 12:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm arguing with my son about
whether Jeff Kent should be in HOF. I say yes. Any thoughts
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by elifriedman on Jul 20, 2007 12:03 AM EDT   0 recs

yeah Kent is HOF
he maybe the best offensive second baseman ever. Certainly in any of our lifetimes.
its a ground ball...trickling... its a fair ball, its by Buckner, rounding third Knight, the Mets will win the ballgame, the Mets win!!!

by DoctorK16 on Jul 20, 2007 12:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good question
I keep hearing people say he's a shoo-in, but I strongly disagree with that. If Jim Rice and Keith Hernandez have been kept out all these years, I don't see why he should be let in. Sure, he might be the "greatest offensive 2B of all time", but look at everything Keith did for his position. Right now it's a toss-up, IMO.
"[Jose Reyes] sizzles in a lot of areas, doesn't he?" - Tim McCarver

by TheFlushingKings on Jul 20, 2007 12:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs