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The Top 50 Mets of All Time: #36 Tom Glavine

After spending sixteen mostly-splendid seasons pitching for the Braves, a stretch that included two Cy Young awards, five top-three finishes and eight All-Star appearances, 36-year-old Tom Glavine was a free agent looking for one last big-money deal to get him to 300 wins and baseball immortality. After a dramatic courtship and intense competition from the Phillies and Braves, the Mets and their persistent owner Fred Wilpon had landed their prized free agent target. Glavine was officially a Met, signing a complicated three-year, $35 million deal on December 5, 2002.

Even after inking with the Mets Glavine had mixed emotions about the deal:

"It's almost surreal that it happened. I never thought I would play for someone else. I thought I would play my whole career with the Braves. I held out hope that things would work out, but they didn't. There's a lot of emotions. It's a tough time.

In the end, there was just something telling me in my gut that New York was the right choice."

--New York Daily News (12/6/02)

Year  Age    IP   ERA    H   HR  BB   SO  ERA+  WARP3  SNLVAR
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2003   37  183.1  4.52  205  21  66   82   94    4.3     4.2
2004   38  212.1  3.60  204  20  70  109  119    7.3     4.9
2005   39  211.1  3.53  227  12  61  105  118    6.8     5.4
2006   40  198.0  3.82  202  22  62  131  113    5.6     5.0
2007   41  131.2  4.51  139  18  44   60   91    3.4     3.0
Glavine came aboard to anchor a veteran rotation that featured Al Leiter, Steve Trachsel, David Cone (in his second tour of duty with the Mets) and youngster Jae Seo, and to help the Mets rebound from their first losing season since 1996. Glavine's Met career began inauspiciously as he got roughed up in his very first start. In front of a Shea Stadium crowd of 53,586 Glavine allowed five runs on eight hits and four walks in just 3.2 innings in a game the Mets would eventually lose 15-2 (Cub centerfielder Corey Patterson belted two homeruns and drove in seven runs; Mike Bacsik allowed nine runs in two innings of relief for the Mets).
Glavine did well to put his disastrous Opening Day start behind him by allowing just two runs in eighteen innings covering his next three starts. He was 5-3 with a 3.41 ERA through his first ten starts while the Mets struggled to a 19-25 record overall. From that point until the end of the season Glavine was occasionally brilliant but generally terrible, posting a 4-11 record to go with a 5.10 ERA over his last 22 starts of 2003. The Mets finished with a 66-95 record, good for last place in the National League East and 34.5 games behind the Atlanta Braves. Needless to say this wasn't what the Mets had in mind when they signed Tom Glavine to be the ace of their pitching staff.

Glavine's second season with the Mets went far better than his first, pitching to a 2.66 ERA and an All-Star appearance in the first half. His 5.06 ERA and 43-to-37 strikeout-to-walk ratio in the second half was eerily reminiscent of the way he tailed off in 2003, but he finished with a solid 3.60 ERA for the season, 19% better than the league. As a team the Mets were still lousy, going 71-91 and finishing fourth in the division, a result that contributed to the firing of Art Howe as the team's manager and the demotion of general manager Jim Duquette to assistant duties. Howe would be replaced by first-time manager Willie Randolph and Duquette was usurped by former Met executive Omar Minaya, happily released from front office purgatory in Montreal.

In 2005 the Mets reloaded via free agency, adding superstars Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran to a team that already featured up-and-coming stars David Wright and Jose Reyes. The presence of Martinez in particular took some pressure off of Glavine as he was no longer looked upon to be the ace of the starting rotation. For Glavine, the changes made for a much more competitive team which in turn pushed him closer to his ultimate personal goal, three hundred career victories. He came to the Mets just 58 wins shy of the milestone but accumulated just twenty victories in his first two seasons in Queens after averaging better than seventeen wins per season in his last twelve years with the Braves.

Now the Mets' bona fide #2 starter, Glavine came out and pitched about as well in 2005 as he had in 2004: His innings pitched, ERA, strikeouts and ERA+ were all virtually identical. He put thirteen more wins into his portfolio and the Mets as a team showed plenty of improvement, finishing better than .500 for the first time in three years.

Glavine continued to chew up innings in 2006 and made his second All-Star appearance in a Mets uniform. His 5.95 K/9 ratio was the best it had been since he struck out 6.16 batters per nine innings back in 1998 and his 2.11 strikeout-to-walk ratio was his highest since 2000. He went 15-7 on the season and helped the Mets reach the postseason for the first time in six years. Glavine was terrific in the playoffs, shutting out the Dodgers for six innings in the second game of the LDS and allowing just three earned runs in eleven innings in two LCS starts. The Mets eventually lost the NLCS to the Cardinals in seven games, but that had more to do with the Mets' lack of hitting than anything else.

The 2006 offseason brought free agency for Glavine again. After entertaining a return to Atlanta he eventually signed a one-year deal to return to the Mets.

"I can't tell you how good it makes me feel that they gave me the respect they gave me and the time they gave. I don't care what you do in life, there's a value to feeling you're appreciated and wanted somewhere. The Mets certainly made me feel that way and treated me that way. I'm not saying the Braves didn't have an interest in me. They said they did. But, in the end, nothing ever materialized.

That pull to come back to New York was a very strong pull. In the end, it's where we felt like we needed to be."

--New York Daily News (12/2/06)

What would 2007 hold? To be continued...

Sources

Tom Glavine at Baseball-Reference.com
Tom Glavine at Baseball Prospectus
Tom Glavine at Fan Graphs

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Boo!
Come on, the cupboard can't be that dry!

Aside from the fact that it's just WRONG to include someone who won over 240 games for Atlanta on an all-time Mets team, Glavine is 59-54 in the blue and orange.

Does this mean Rick Reed will be #35?  Or is that for Bobby O?

by Tom on Aug 20, 2007 9:25 AM EDT   0 recs

Ahem
Just the fact that a long-time Atlanta Brave hall-of-famer decided to be in a Mets uniform for 300 is good enough for me. To top it all off, he had a few good seasons with the team. Sure, it was in his twilight, but he posted 3 above average seasons. I can see how you may think he's high on the list but it isn't really that far of a stretch.

by BlackOps on Aug 20, 2007 10:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glavine
It should be noted that, at the moment, Tom Glavine has made 156 starts as a Met. That ranks 11th in franchise history, behind only Seaver, Koosman, Gooden, Fernandez, Darling, Leiter, Matlack, Bobby Jones, Craig Swan, and Cone. Eight of those guys are ahead of Glav on Eric's list, with Swan and Jones already appearing. When he wins his next game, he'll have sole possession of 10th on the franchise wins list, passing Swan (among others) and behind the other nine pitchers listed above.

Glavine's been above average in every season he's been a Met, save his first. From 2003-2006, he put up ERA's roughly 16% above average, even after adjusting for Shea's pitcher-friendly impact.

And I really don't think the Mets' cupboard is all that empty. The other expansion era teams probably all have similar players on their lists. Check out Rob Neyer's Big Book of Baseball Lineups to see how other teams stack up.

by Blackfish on Aug 20, 2007 12:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A not-so-quick comment on Glavine
I didn't get a chance to write much on Glavine when he got his 300th win, but I'm really fascinated by what Glavine has been able to accomplish in the majors. It's not that he has bad stuff -- early in his career, he had a low-90's moving fastball, a great changeup, and pretty solid breaking stuff he never used -- but that he's had so much success looking downright ugly.

He's posted above average strikeout rates just twice in his career. While he's always had above average control, it's never been great. He doesn't allow homeruns, but he's never been a big groundball pitcher either. He falls behind 1-0, 2-0, and 3-0 more often than most pitchers. One of my favorite stats: Glavine has the fourth-worst K/BB ratio compared to his league average of any 200 game winner in the modern era. Two of the three guys ahead of him were knuckle-ballers, and the other--George Mullin, an early 1900's pitcher who relied on a big, big curve--is so far off the charts he's an outlier.

So how is he successful? First, he doesn't give hitters pitches they can hit well. Second, he's possibly the best pitcher at pitching to the situation at hand who's ever lived. He limits hitters' slugging when there are runners on, and limits their OBA's better when there's no one on. Glavine's one of the best pitchers in history with the bases loaded.

by Blackfish on Aug 20, 2007 1:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Tommy G is OK in my book
i hate the braves more than VD but he is also 2 for 2 in choosing the mets as a FA.  plus he has a hot ass wife.

by kendynamo on Aug 20, 2007 2:04 PM EDT   0 recs

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